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kevoh:
So if this god (through a voice in your head)tells you to kill your grandson because his father was randy you would kill him because the ways of god are not man's ways! I just dey laugh here!

I knoow the difference between the voice of the devil and the voice of God.
By 'this god' you speak of telling me to kill my grandson,what do you think I'll do?
I'm the one laughing here.
I'm not ignorant.

kevoh:
You did not answer the questions I asked. In other words, you can kill your grandson because he is a product of his father's randy ways. It's alright, it's expected from you christians.

Yea, you Christians,yada yada.
Am i God?That answers your question.

Modele35:
My sister, same thing happened to me. it is humilation. i think u shld find another church. i still go there with my husband the church is TPH but i am going for peace sake. will soon stop going or find a neutral church. Even Jesus forgave the sinners on the cross with him how much more we human beings. my son is almost two now and the other one is on the way. if they do this again for the new one coming, that is the end. i wont EVER go there again. there is no scripture in the bible that says once u marry u must go to husbands church. it is a decision u both should prayerfully make.

One thing I'll just say about your comment here is that you learn to be subject to spiritual authorities and obey rules.
God we serve expects that of us.
He takes no pleasure in the arrogant and loves those who are of a contrite spirit.

LadyB1195:
Never knew a church is a Institute.
Ask yourself why a church was made in the first place.

Well check the dictionary for the meaning of institute.

Mind telling me why a church was made in the first place?

kevoh:
So should the baby die (or become afflicted) because the parents conceived before their wedding ? Your comment above is one of the problems I have with Christians and muslims , you guys rarely think deep and become illogical the moment religion comes in. Was it even proper for the christian god to let an innocent child die? What a merciful god! As a father/mother would you allow your grandson to die of malaria without treatment just because the father(your son) had him outside wedlock? Should your grandson be punished/afflicted/allowed to die because he is a product of his father's randy relationships?

You do not understand the concept of sin.
David's example doesn't apply to everyone but was his own punishment.
Talking about thinking deep and illogical,the ways of God are far beyond man's logical reasoning.

obinoral1179:
what are they preaching in that church or rather which bible are they using to guide their members... Forgiveness is very paramount in christianity... Church that cannot forgive and forgets your past. Is that one a church? For me I will confront them and ask them if they have not committed a more grievous sin, they should cast the first stones. Hypocrite everywhere...

King David sinned in the bible,took another man's wife and caused the husband's death.The woman conceived but the child became sick.David prayed and fasted for the child to be well.God let the child die.God forgave David but the child still died.
When you ask what bible are they reading to guide their members,be sure you have read the contents yourself.

Allstrasse:
I am not one to comment on religious matters but for some reason the self-inflicted anguish of this mother who is like a baby herself got to me.

The only picture that comes before me is the question;

"What would Jesus do?"

A quick reference to the story about the lady who was brought before the Lord Christ on allegations of infidelity comes to mind. That scene has been beautifully captured in celluloid. And His response is classic

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

Lady, you do not need the church. It is the church that needs you. It cannot survive without you.

The day your many years of distorted programming gives way to the Truth, you will be set free indeed.

Your comment is not in order.
Jesus' final comment to the lady was 'go and sin no more'.He didn't say come let us have a celebration and that was deliberate.
What would Jesus do?Exactly what her church has done.

David in the bible slept with another man's wife(organised his death) and conceived a child with her.That child fell sick.David prayed,fasted and did all but the child still died.
Sometimes we really need to know the word of God before criticizing the church.

When you choose not to do the right thing,why do you people always lament after?
The right thing is not to fornicate and get pregnant.If you do,you will not have things the way they ought to be.
Accept the private dedication or decide to move to another 'church' and have an elaborate dedication service or better still start your own church.
If the church cannot uphold standards,of what use is Church then?It will eventually become a lawless institute.

Your husband is very wrong for using those words.If he felt offended about anything,he should have discussed it.
I think the major problem here is communication.You both need to improve on it.

The foundation of the marriage also matters.........finding partners in a club or bar,a school environment,Oshodi market etc determines how words will be used.

NarnieSnyper:
.....Like he 'stole' her Viginity or what

He didn't steal it,it must have been consensual.
Sex however creates a bond that has consequences.Some are dire.

zinachidi:
when u read the interview, did u see anything concerning sex there, i'm not even sure i saw the word there, or u don't know what to type this afternoon?

If they didn't have sex,the girl will not be so pained.I could wager he took her virginity sef so I don't think adorablepepple's statement is wrong afterall.

Must be single mother of three.

He actually didn't own the SUV,it belonged to his mom and the driver was employed to take him around.
There are indications the family knew all was not well because the mother visited him often while at work.The driver was for someone to be around him.

Abasi Mbok.Iyanmi.
People are going through a lot.

Ofone.

Idydarling:
men!

Queenakande:
what is meant for you will never go. take heart and move on with life. Men chai I hail una

You didn't read that she lost her fiance to her close friend,a female?

Poor girl.
She started out hustling,from serving drinks at bars in Badagry before she got help getting a slot in the Air force.

Just when things were looking up for her and her family,she got into a wrong relationship that ended her life.

Nice piece.That is why religion has frustrated many.

They didn't find Christ.

Her sister dress though.Chest too open.

Anyway na public event.She dey advertise herself.

Which kain mumu husband be that?Even if you are a carpenter,common sense should say,let's go to a lab or hospital to do a test.

I know she's under pressure but lying only makes her case worse.

Hope he doesn't end up like Majek Fashek.

Something went wrong.Maybe his religious revival has taken a toll on him or he simply lost interest.
You need to be patient and sometimes do most of the work till he picks up.

He should have spoken out rather commit suicide.You give those you leave behind pain.

Hmmm,rich also cry.
I'm sure his family and friends will recognise the plate no and come looking for him.

Some girls and dating psychos.
It's guys who look like thugs that trip them.

Nutase:
....but dangerously skillful. If only wives could humbly learn from them.. .....

You don talk am finish.
Men suppose face their main chick.

Depression or psychiatric issues people overlook.

IbnIslam:
take ur time to study ur bible and u will find answers to ur questions. U will realize that ur bible talked about Muhammad ( peace be upon him). That is d truth ur pastors have concealed from u

Mind showing me where the bible talked about Muhammed?

IbnIslam:
the Jew and their likes are known to always temper with the scripture so that it can suit them and that's what they did the bible and torah(book of Moses). But with the Quran Allah has preserved it just as he promised in the Quran [Quran 15:9] Absolutely, we have revealed the reminder, and, absolutely, we will preserve it.[Quran 56:77-80] This is an honorable Quran. In a protected book. None can grasp it except the sincere. A revelation from the Lord of the universe.
[Quran 85:21-22] Indeed, it is a glorious Quran. In a preserved master tablet.

No,Allah failed because he should have preserved the Torah and remove all doubts.
The testimony of one man(Muhammed) cannot hold because there has to be testimonies of others.

IbnIslam:
Atleast you hav agreed that the bible is not the word of God by ur explanation.. Hence u can't attribute mistakes to God. My point is that the bible of today has been completely and deliberately interpolated by the works of som historians and this action has change the authenticity of the book. So if u know that based on the volume of the evident errors, then ur guess is as Good as mine. The Hadith are sayings of the prophet or actions or things done by his companions which may include historical events etc hence the Hadith does not qualify to be included in the Quran because it involves human narrations which can contain errors. The death of Islamic memorisers in one of wars nececcitad the compilations of the Quran but again u must realize that a lot of people then memorized the Quran excluding the ones that died in the battle. In the course of the compilations every individual who claimed to have a portion of the Quran was not just accepted but verified based on the number of reciters who have learned it either from the prophet(peace be upon him )or a trusted companion. Those who either deliberately or mistakenly added ( verses or chapters)of what was not taught by the prophet( peace be upon him ) were rejected. The teaching of the Quran was learned in group by the companions of the prophet (peace b on him ) hence it was easy to differentiate authentic verses from unauthentic. Hence no contradiction in this regard. To this end relying on narrations u have quoted does not invalidate the Quran and u can do better by producing the the Quran which has 111 and 116 chapters as against the 114 .

If you say the bible has been corrupted and are the words of men,why couldn't Allah preserve an authentic copy of what you call the Torah?

Tell your wife.

Crownadex:
yea but they've not ready to marry yet

Not ready to marry and they're having unprotected sex?

They better go tell their parents.