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If you really know about Mobutu you would not have thought he has any Afrocentric intention at heart. To me he is just a Horrible actor. |
The US and his cohorts are trying to draw themselves into this, they want to twist the whole thing so that Nigeria will be perceived as a threat to USA, No problem, since Nigerians don't want to learn they will the hard way. |
there are 6 Nigerians , all 6 of them are 45 years old, can you tell us which one is a pure Nigerian according to your definition. 1: Born in Nigeria,left Nigeria before 18 years to USA. 2: Born in USA , left USA before 18 to Nigeria. 3:Born in Nigeria and raised in Nigeria, Mother is a white British woman. 4:Born in Nigeria, left Nigeria after 18 years. 5:Born in Cameroun and raised in Cameroun. 6;Born in USA and left USA for Nigeria after 18 years. |
My Vicky: So, where do we start and how do we go about it? About half of the african population may not even be able to comprehend the big grammar you wrote up there.It is not really a big task as you think, very little things we can change will contribute a lot to the overall development and outlook. We can start by banning all forms of religious education in our schools, things like Christian religious Knowledge and Islamic studies will be banned in all our Public Schools. Those Subjects will be replaced with National History and Ethics, the curriculum will be extremely Afrocentric with a thorough nationalistic theme, Students will learn the true history of their nation, without bias, history should be studies deeply and discussed more as the child grows towards university age. The role of Colonialism and how it came should be bared in all its gruesomeness, The Pre-colonial situation of our nations will be studied from an African point of View and the Post colonial situations will also be studied in the same manner. Nigerian Civil War is a topic that needs to be dissected without bias, studied and inculcated into the history curriculum in the context of fostering unity, presented as an affliction we all suffered as a nation and instructing the young ones never ever to ever allow outsiders and selfish and egotistical people to ever bring distrust among them. A young mind is like a farm, you can water it, fertilize it and plant it, if you nurture the plant carefully it will do very well. Children who grew up on these theme and mindset will be proud of their nation, very protective of what belongs to their nation and when they look around them and feel ashamed that their nation is lagging behind others, the extreme love they have for their nation will compel them to do something positive, to struggle to built something they will be proud of. Children who grew up with an Afrocentric and Pan-Nigerian mindset will see it as a taboo to do certain things that the current generation does, such indoctrination is exactly the same as some of those things you view as taboo because your tribe see it so, believe me if you are from another tribe you may even have great pleasure in committing that taboo but you have been brought up indoctrinated that such is forbidden. that is what INDOCTRINATION IS ALL ABOUT. Every Nation does this, Israel is very good at it. France has been doing such since the 18th century. China has its to the extreme. North Korea is a case to be studied. In the end the result is a population that is politically aware, a nation that is conscious of its own existence, a people that will hold the line not for money or some selfish gratification but the perceived honor it brings to serve ones nation. Nigerians are not conscious of its existence, they just answer Nigerians by name and none is really Nigerians. |
GenBuhari: So because they praise Idi Amin and refused to swallow western propaganda against him, means that they lack a sense of history??Many Africans really believe that Idi Amin was a cannibal, and other atrocities put on him, the man fought off the Japs, Germans, Americans, and Brits.... said NO to Imnperialism and exploitation of his nation,got a hold of his country for a while before the enemies propped up Tanzanians and terrorist Israel to invade his nation. the only movie that actually does him a little justice is "The last King of Scotland" you should watch it though it does not tell all that happened but you should get an idea of what really happened. |
The whole key is in the mind of the African, everything we need to do is in the mind, the physical aspects is just 15%, Psychological re-orientation constitutes 85% of the whole work. Until we change the way we think and start looking inwards we will never attain full efficiency. |
I think OLU made more sense than that Odua of woman..I don't really understand what she is trying to say. So now there are PURE NIGERIANS and UNPURE NIGERIANS..haha ok. |
Do you think the embassy really cares about your Stanley ? I have witnessed worse, daylight murder of Nigerian and bystanders collected visual evidence with their mobile phones and what did the embassy did when they got those evidence ? they rounded up those with the pictures and video, took what they have from them and warned them never to come near the embassy premise again. RIP to the deceased . |
Stranglehold: That post wasn't even for you. Why didn't you respond to the post that was for YOU. Couldn't refute it?I think you missed my stance from the beginning, i already told you several times that I as an African man does not assume a position which does not relate to what i perceive and can relate to realistically in my life, you kept trying to drag me into your anthropological haze and i will keep refusing to be sucked into it. I told you i am not an Anthropologist and i never claimed to be an expert in Anthropology but i should affirm that your being well versed in Anthropology does not mean you can override my common sense or twist my perceptions of reality. Einsten was a great scientist but if he were to come and tell me that according to some law of physics that i am not sitting down(as i am sure i am ) but standing then i do have all rights to question his claim since it does not confirm to my perceptions. I believe we need some honest thought to tell ourselves whom is to be believed more, a man that is told that the sky is blue or the man who saw that the sky is blue(i don't know whether you understand that). At the end of the day; we ourselves knows that race exist, defined by the genes we carry which propagates those features by which has been used to classify us racially. Your Anthropology is superficial in this context since it does not assist us in any way. The two black men i drank with yesterday might not be a negro according to your Anthropological classifications, One was extremely fair with straight nose,jaw and yellowish brown eyes while the other one was thin and looked Caucasian in every way except that he was dark skinned. the Fair one was an Igbo from Imo state and the other one From Papua near Australia and an Aborigine. Nobody ever differentiated us, we were called Negros and that is the truth, the Aborigine man sees himself as a Negro, came to Meetings for Negros, was part of Negro Organizations and talks like a Negro.That is reality. All your science does not make sense to me as i told you in the beginning and i will tell you again that i am not interested in anything that does not relate to my reality, you should wait for Horus or birdman to discuss your Genetics with them. |
Horus: A database of policemen should be mandatory; there is definitely something wrong with the police forceNigerian Police Force has his picture and other information(it is part of personnel identification procedure with the issue of ID and number) but you should know they are all together in this crime, so they will only do some Public Relations Stunt while withholding any information(picture,description or adds) that might lead to his capture. who knows; he might be at the Police Barracks and being assisted by the Police Force to evade the public. |
I thought he might mean Pan-Africanism. |
Tumisang: By doing what? Investing in their countries, giving them millions in aid, giving millions of their citizens refuge? South Africa has done more than enough for this continent - more than enough!!I will not reply all these since it is evident you really know nothing about your country and what happened back then BUT i really wished everybody minded their own business.I really do. |
Stranglehold: You guys are not understanding me...I never said race does not exist. I just said its not genetically DEFINED. Meaning its not that deep as everyone thinks it is. You have me out of context. All Africans are related and binded together by the PN2 clade I already stated that many times on this forum. Africans have a more RECENT common ancestor than EUropeans, Asians or pacific islanders. Which is why they are all related to each other. People who argue for the existence of race genetically DO NOT agree with the OOA and do NOT agree that Africans were the first humans. People who created race didn't even add Ethiopians and other horners to the black race or even the Khoisans.You know i have really held myself from saying this for a long time,but at last maybe i will ask you the simple question, if race is not defined genetically why is there specific features associated with certain race and they keep reproducing these same features for generations ? Your Malaysian example did not hit any cord with me and i ignored it because nobody in his right mind; if the girl is stood side by side with an African girl will ever say she is African. i just looked at that as a distraction and a cheap attempt to twist reality and score points which is not the object of this discussion. we are here to learn not to win arguments and by that we make use of our common sense and perception. that somebody has African negroid features....who exactly is a negro, is it a certain feature like flat nose or the constituent of features. people like you never think of such and you let yourself to be confused by people who keeps crafting ways to dominate you. If the Malaysian girl was standing side by side with a Massai girl who will you say is more negroid ? considering the the physical features of the massai people. The Question you should ask yourself is, will the massai receive the same treatment as a negro in today's world or will he be considered something different. when things somebody tells you does not relate to your physical world then you are either being caged psychologically or you are listening to a very mad man.You should please free your mind of those silly notions. |
Tumisang: None of you are South Africans yet here you're with epistle after epistle telling us what we should do and shouldn't have done.The only time any of you should talk is when issues about your country are being discussed!It goes on to show how much you are alienated from your people. let me inform you that among African scholars South Apartheid is not different from colonialism, they are one and the same hence it is always defined among scholars as the last form of pure colonialism on the African continent(mind you i mentioned Africa). there were Apartheid in Australia against the Aborigines, Apartheid in West Bank against the Palestinians, there are many cases of Apartheid in other places but due to some political machinations of those in power they prefer to call it something else and i will not drag our discussion into that. On second note i will like to enlighten you that nobody would have mentioned South Africa if not for the roles that they have recently played against the interest of the people of Zimbabwe and Africa at large. However as a continent; we all as Black African nations fought together to end the same apartheid which you proudly talk about as if you witnessed heaven. your guys were well contained by the white MINORITY and your aggression did not extend further from arson and inflicting barbaric and senseless casualties on your fellow black South Africans while the white minority stays back and enjoys the show. It was by the great efforts of Nations like Nigeria, Zimbabwe(which hosted many of your exiled patriots) and Egypt that you are free to roam the same streets with the whites. I wish we would have kept our opinions to ourselves and only react when it concerns us, who knows by now you might be rotting in jail somewhere in Jo'Burg. |
panafrican: The lack of structure can well lead to anarchy such as the type of society people like Bakunin ( a Russian anarchist) were trying to create in the 19th century.As much as there are truth in what you are saying, we do know that for any Al Qaeda fighter there are 2 christian Al Qaeda like fighters doing more damage than the Al Qaeda will ever do. Looking back at Al Qaeda if the christians has stayed in their place, and had not looked for trouble with their Pillage in the guise of religion and civilization interventions we might not have heard that name now. The Europeans has never been christians, christianity itself since after the First Council of Nicea has been rotten. Was it not at the same time they were imposing christianity on us that they were colonisaing and enslaving whole nations ? The whole thing has only been a tool used to enslave peoples mind. it is rather unfortnate that we africans being naive embraced the ideal christianity and strived to become righteous acording to its teachings. You should know that they will always dictate what is right accroding to what favours them, at first they impose the christians laws effectively wiping out your culture and its values, second wave came with their liberal laws with is greed, homosexuality,loose lifestyle, lack of respect, selfishness and all sorts of vices. the same people that imposed the first wave njow ridicule you for believing in the ways they imposed on you and call you backward and "living in the 1800s" the same thing they did when you took away your culture. Until we learn that the whole thing is vain and dump all foriegn religions we will always be on the loosing end. |
panafrican: One can agree with you on that. But on the other hand, Christians are more organized than Muslims. For instance Muslims do not have an unique leader that has the same powers as the Pope. Also the Vatican is not only that tiny "city-Country ", it is a huge well-connected intercontinental government system with rules and regulations.That is the flaw in christianity if you ask me. One rotten blob of collosal indeference. Mind you that you only meant catholics when you talk about rome, but in the real sense of organization the christians could not be organised without a figurhead. The muslims on the other hand can organise themselves irespective of the heirachy. there is a russian saying that goes "The fish rots from the head." This puts the christians in the a very dangerous position since for example an ambiguos pope like this can fracture the whole structure. With all its organisation and connection it cannot take a stand on concrete issues like abortion,homosexuality and incest. |
panafrican: What does the Bible say about Homosexuality ? Why did Go struck Sodom and Gomorrah?Sorry i don't believe Muslims FEEL stronger, i believe they are actually stronger and more organised, Throught our history Christainity has been a religion of politics. intrigues, vague positions and mixed messages. to me it is no longer a religion that is worthy of any sane man. |
Tumisang: Collective mentality = BackwardnessNobody is really here to play word games with you, Colonialism or Apartheid........Older brother or Younger brother.........all of them are brothers. Your efforts to defend what is plainly indefensible even to the extent of lieing to yourself tells a lot about you. |
musweraf7: Make no mistakes,dont be gullible to believe everything you read from western media outlets,we voted uncle Bob because we love him and his policies which puts us first ahead of colonisers,PERIOD.We are a peaceful country and we happy,as for the sanctions we are defeating them dont worry we are not under any spell my brother,you have to worry about yourself instead.Do you know that we have the [size=24pt]highest literacy rate in Africa[/size] and we have no slum cities??that was the key. |
Mr Anthropolocology was told by his White Anthropological Masters that he is the Scum of the earth, then He came running to Anthropolocologicalise Us...Sorry Mr Ant but we humbly refused to be POOR[size=16pt]LOGIC[/size]ALISED |
They keep drying up the nation in their bid to destabilise the economy and frustrate the masses, As usual what they are not telling us is what this is costing the Nigerian side. We are not fools because we know that no Brit in his right mind, in this recession will fork out that amount for something as fantastical as putting a Nigerian and not even his national in space. Nigerians never ask questions and they count on this to play their tricks, if you really enquire in the nature of this 300 million you will be disappointed to see a small phrase like "technical transfer" or "training" and the untold hundreds of billions Nigeria will be putting into it will be going to them as well. these nations just make sure we africans will never have enough money from our oil procedss to do anything good in our country. |
KidStranglehold: 1. What do you mean how many whites have given birth to black babiesThe forceful nature of your repetitions is simply an evidence that you have no other information apart from the racially insidious ones that was imparted on you nor are you willing to think for yourself outside of what you have been instructed. Sorry, None of what you state above comes in line to what i have witnessed in real life and i have lived really long. all those anthropological rubbish like western philosophy is farce and useless if it does not help us in anyway to solve our most realistic problems. I have lived long enough to know that you CAN NOT divide me and my brother, put a wedge between me and my ally, create a basis for future division with any of those glorified chavaunistic tools. The above may not make sense to you but i believe that others that read it understands what it means. Genes define our race, and you are either a Negro(austrailian Aborigines included), Mongoloid, or Caucasoid? anybody can confuse himself as much as he wants. |
Gasmore: The gulf of guinea and the birth of biafra.... At the moment is jointly covered by a joint security agreement due to international piracy incursion. Recently GEJ visited the cameroun and this was highlighted. The nigerian navy is very active within her territorial borders and even the US SEAL know they will be in trouble if they step in... DO NOT UNDERATE THE NIGERIAN MILITARY...THEY ARE NOT NIGERIA POLICE.Liar. Nigerian navy does nothing at all in those places, the whole place is run my US navy. |
Idoma Likita: Where Do India, China, Brazil, S.A etc stand in the Anti-Terror War?well here is more, Israel recently invited Jonathan Israel to instruct him on their policies. Jonathan and aids publicized the visit as a pilgrimage to Israel. |
i simply ask questions which you refused to answer instead you sidelined it and went on to makes irrelevant claims. how many whites has given birth to black babies ? can a crime perpetrators race be exposed by DNA samples taken from the crime scene ? all the other charts and map and anthropological whiffs you keep throwing up does not really interest me since all that puzzled me and forced me to become part of your discussion was that you stated that race is not defined by genes. |
Jonathan is not going for any Pilgrimage, the Israelis invited him over for some discussions, the pilgrimage is just an excuse to go there, Nigeria is hitting the rocks, anything the Israelis touch their hands on changes to misery. I feel really sorry for the Lebanese that are doing business in Nigeria. I feel more sorry for Nigerians that can't see what is on plain sight. |
419forlife: now we are get places you see i mean it could take 100 200 500 year for at least a 10% transfer. that is exact what i am talk about thuth. now think about 100% transfer. 500 600 2000 year it might just take. as for a highlighted we don do a such things and to bad you mention them as we first a God fear people. if dey want a land take and get back what belong to a white then may God help the whites. we don do such a thing yes we will take back what belong us but we gon do all it honest way. honest way is a best policy. we shall over come yes we can dream to.i understand what you mean, but this is the real world. Being righteous will not take you anywhere because the people you were dealing with are not honest. Can you imagine that HAITI is still paying reparations to France for fighting and defeating them during their war for independence. in a honest and righteous world, many would have spoken against this but none has done so. Thus Niccolo Machiavelli wrote in the prince :A man who wishes to make a profession of goodness in everything must necessarily come to grief among so many who are not good. Therefore it is necessary for a prince, who wishes to maintain himself, to learn how not to be good, and to use this knowledge and not use it, according to the necessity of the case. |
KidStranglehold: They do NOT say that. They say either African, Asian or European. They don't say Negro or Caucasian unless.Please don't tell me that, i worked with the forensic department for internal investigations in France for 2years and 8 months. results always come in as : white male/female, negro female/male, asian(middle east) male\female, eastern(Chinese,Korean etc) male\female. that is also the format for the results in many countries. KidStranglehold: Africans have more dominant genes than Europeans, due to Africans being older. When a black or Asian person has a kid, the kids asian features are visible sometimes more visible than black side.By this really twisted logic of yours that means having Europeans giving birth to babies with African features and even black skins will be a common occurrence because of the negroid ultra dominance genes. right ? Now Twist it again....waiting. KidStranglehold: Moot point. Why were the Meso Americans less adapted(now this definitely pokes a hole in the original Americans being African) to smallpox, yet Africans and Europeans were...Its called adaptation...Some Africans are lactose intolerance, while some are not.You don't make sense, i am talking about drugs which were chemically engineered to work with specific genes. people adapting to certain illness is about having the right genetic makeup to build body immunity against such disease. it has nothing to do with your anthropological wrangling of facts. |
419forlife: meaning we have appreciate nelson mandealla and realize what he did was not for popular but was best for a nation. the deal was at 1994 whites would take good care infrastructure such things like raw material that way nelson can finally leave jail to become a president. is best we research the deal. 1994 was to soon to have every bit back because skills and whites know every information to run machines such things.u see where i going with this. gradual process. it may take 100 200 500 year the life time of us can not see it but depend how bad we take actions that maybe 200 300 900 year from now our descendant can reap the work.Oh now i get what you meant. there are large parts of the negotiation between the whites and Nelson Mandela even before he was released from prison that the public don't know about. Though i agree that it makes strategic sense at that period to assume the stance you stated, i sincerely believe that since they have enough knowledge of how these people operate it will be clear to them that after 800 years they will never attain true independence, since all means of production rests with the foreigners with tremendous support from their brothers out of the continent it is very unlikely that such opportunities will even be passed to the blacks even at 40% rate in the nest 300 years. what might happen is to create an elite black class that will be kept financially afloat and will serve two purposes, first they will be use to control the majority of the poor blacks since they having money will be naturally taken by the poor majority as their leader and voice, secondly they will serve as a reference that resources is actually shared even though such is only a farce, but anytime you complain that the blacks got nothing, the white will mention those puppets as evidence and then classify other poor blacks as lazy and unambitious though in reality the poor were deliberately and systematically made so. The situation is made worse when those puppets being internationally accepted as the voice of the indigenous blacks gives credence to what the white oppressors say. What i expected Mandela to do was the same thing that Mugabe did, once he had the Opportunity he would have abandoned all agreements and go full force at them, taking back what belongs to South Africans and even taking the apartheid whites to courts, with the sort of support that the blacks had from the rest of African and the World at that particular time such feat is feasible and achievable though not necessary in its entirety but some developments will be made and a norm established. Believe if those were whites they will do worse than Mugabe, they will make sure they get every bit of their stuffs back and even more, in fact you will pay them reparations for eternity. Haiti is still paying reparations for DEFEATING FRANCE IN THEIR WAR FOR INDEPENDENCE. The black man has been so brainwashed that he sincerely believes in the limits that has been put forward for him by his enemies. Thanks Cap28 though. |
you know i really don't understand what that guy means by race is not genetically defined, then i will ask him, How is it that when DNAs are picked off evidence they will tell you it is of a Negro,Asian or Caucasian ? How is it that you never see Blacks suddenly giving births to whites since their genes do not carry their features ? How is it certain drugs has been designed that work for certain race but not for the other due to DNA compositions ? I am not an anthropologist though, but i am making my assumptions on common sense. Africans should really be careful of how they borrow white mans education and brainwash their own kind. |
419forlife: howi really don't understand what you mean by that. |
Horus: When we are dealing with Anthropology, Science, Genetic, Geography , History ,etc..,we have to be very carefull with words. Present day authorities, theologians, philosophers, and so-called linguistics of European birth use several of their own languages to control your mind and entrap you in their definitions. Remember that their first holy book is the Bible or the Koran, and their second and most holy book is their dictionary; with these tools, they rule. They can decide what is true and what is false, and they can make a learnt man, look like a fool, or a liar, because they are unquestionable. The format used is author, authentic, authority. With those three principles, everybody retreats to them to check themselves and their own culture. Whenever you look up the root of a word, and where it originated, you are always led to Greek, French, Old English, Latin, and Arabic. Most of your definitions are coming from these languages. They have you controlled by these languages to keep your mind trapped and make themselves the authorities, the authors, and thus appear to be authentic.Your self hating African brothers will then ask you " so why can't you come up with your own language and stop cussing people who had already made some efforts" hehehe A guy was telling his friend that Europeans discovered everything, they discovered the pyramids,the river Niger, they discovered Africa and America. though i was not part of the discussion i can not hold back any further so i said to the guy " Who knows had it been that they did not discover us we might not have discovered ourselves" |
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dare this men how dare u rossikk.if u think this can take a few year for the economy to get back on black hands then dare u. How many years 100 200 300 if it can take more it just might. how dare u rossikk get some education. gradual process thats why nelsin mandella took the deal because of 'hard work nothing free' principle that can build black nation. u dont know it because u dont have education. blacks work hard even if u stole from us we hate it back NO we are go work and fly straight till we gain some trust then we can take economy back. until we can work hard and prove our self we don have one right a talk about land transfer. how dare u rossikk.