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You know most nigerians find it really hard to understand the concept of isolating someone or a group by damaging their reputation or misrepresenting their intentions in a way that the majority finds them a threat and would therefore desist from forming an alliance with them. This has been going on now that everything the man said is misrepresented and now people think Boko Haram when they think of Buhari.

birdman: The true definition of understanding is when you can explain a concept to a child. There are even illustrations explaining Einstein's theories to kids. Could it be that you do not fully understand the events you are witnessing and are just being reactionary? You are starting to sound like Rossike

I explained the concept of isolation to you but again i have this feeling that you know what you are doing and none of it has to do with actually informing people. I have witnessed the likes of you on the forum and that all i will say. Then again i might be wrong about you.
If you can not make sense of the concept i explained above and how it is being applied to africa and nigeria then lets leave it at that.

Syria: Update. More than 4,000 Hizballah members have entered the city of Aleppo, a spokesman for the rebel Free Syrian Army said on 4 June. The Hizballah fighters are stationed at a military academy and preparing to attack Aleppo, the spokesperson said. Comment: The military school is on the outskirts of Aleppo and is located in a neighborhood that the government still controls. The three recent visitors to Aleppo - described as Middle East experts - said they were told by the rebels that the military academy would be one of the staging bases for forthcoming government operations in Aleppo. -
This is Knightwatch intel dispatch for this morning.
I subscribe to Stratfor and Knightwatch besides people on the ground.

birdman: Do you have proof of this, or are you just making this up as you go? Your obsession with the west has reached the point where you are making up stories and passing them off as fact? This does wonders for your credibility.

That shows why so many people should first do a research before trying to counter others. Even more that two weeks you still do not know that Hezbolla has partnered with the Syrian Goverment forces and fought the Western backed rebels. They have pushed them out of Al Qusary on the syrian border which is a major arms supply route to the rebels. As of this morning more than 4000 Hezbolla fighters are camped at a military academy on the outskirts of Aleppo waiting for orders to start a push into alleppo which has been under the rebel control for months.
For about four days also the terrorist rebels has been trying to start a front inside lebanon against Hezbolla as a form of retaliation for the assistance to the Syrian Goverment.
The Lebanese Hezbolla is fully integrated into the syrian conflict at the moment loyal to the Goverment forces.

birdman: I dont need to look anything up. I know exactly what Hezbollah is. Just becasue they are enemies of the west doesn't mean they are your friends. In fact they have never been your friend, and have lower opinions of you than the west does. Are you able to comprehend that logic, or do I need to add a "I am tired of Nigerians because of..." phrase to help you out. Anyone that doesnt see it your way is stupid abi? smh.

There are standards on the international strategic Scene and isolation is one of them. What makes this hard to comprehend for most people is that they lack the proper historical references which forms the basic building block for any strategic analysis. The position of the west at the moment is imperial in nature, its intent is to dominate(full spectrum domination) BUT the nature of the modern world is that of alliances whereby groups which suffers similar affliction amalgamate to solve their problems. If such amalgamations were to be allowed then the western objectives becomes impossible to achieve or at least protracted. At this point isolation becomes a decisive factor in sustaining a conducive condition for its goals to be met. The re routed iranian arms was an example to isolate Iran from nigeria and other places where it might want to lend its help against al qaeda. The hezbolla scheme is same.
This is always hard to explain to people since a basic knowledge of Strategic Analysis and planning is needed. Something that is realistic and more far away from your daily movies and spy novels.

ibro2040: Point of order,there is nothing like hizbullah cell. These are the real boko haram. Somebody want to cover them by calling them hizbollah. Whosoever know hizbollah and where and how they operate will know that they have no business whatsoever in nigeria. Boko haram is grand plan designed from outside this country cashing on the gross ignorance among northern semi literate and almajiris to retard the north. The pieces have started falling into place and this is some of it.

you are very right just that i think the name Hezbollah was carefully chosen to tarnish the image of the great movement. Hezbolla has been fighting for the Syrian Goverment since last two weeks against the USA sponsored Al Qaeda and has given considerable damage to the western destabilation plan on syria. So now just like iran they want to bring in out on the lime light and darken it and make it their next target.

birdman: Dont go crazy with the conspiracy theories. Is it possible SSS was tipped off as revenge on Hezbollah? Yes. But its no secret that Hezbollah has been gaining ground in Nigeria since Abacha's reign. Saudi and Iran have been fighting proxy wars on our soil for decades - I hope they hang all involved



What is your point though? Why does a Lebanese civilian have a cache of arms hidden. Wether the weapons will work as effectively is besides the point. I know you want to see the west as the bad guy. That is your choice. But remember, there are other bad guys out there too. Iran's hands are not clean. Nor are Syria's

the only bad guy there is is the West. Go and find the meaning and struggle of Hezbolla and then tell me what they will be looking for in nigeria. The weapons are not useable so it is evident that it is a plant to sway opinion. In fact i am tired of nigerians and their stupidity.

stankezzy: why is it that nigerians think like fools,if us
help they will say they are after their oil ,if
they do not help like in syria,the masses nd
world are accusing them that they are
watching nd thousands are killed.ley me ask u
a question,nigeria nd us who get oil pass?
nigeria nd us who get other natural
resourcess pass?.it is like a rich man in the
village,if he gives someone money people will
say 'it is juju money' if he does not give
people will say 'he is stingy nd wicked'.l have
known that it is beter to do good nd forget
what fools will say.

You are mistaken, no one has ever called the americans anywhere to help in anything, infact no one ever wanted them in any of those conflicts you mentioned. What you fail to understand is that in each of those places you mentioned their were formerly no conflict and if there were it was extremely negligible then the americans came in and escalated it then used the pretext to destroy the country, install their puppets and clamp down on their resources. I have been saying this for 5 years now here and nobody wants to listen.

The Americans will push this till it becomes acceptable that nigeria is a terrorist nation, they will start a bombing campaign and terrorize the whole nation, even the opinions of the ordinary people will be dronwed out by out complicit media and puppet goverments, at the end of the day NIgeria will be a virtual colony. what they were doing now is to create a problem and then blow it up and use the excuse to destroy the target, daily news on parkistan will show you where nigeria is headed.
it bothers me when nigerians take part in this plan, and more worrisome is the fact that majority of ignorant nigerians accept this form of oppression.

I find this hard to believe, this is another ploy to throw out another ally against USA created BOKO HARAM. Since the Hezbolla Guyus started fighting AL-Qaida in Syria the US and his allies has been trying to paint them black, what would hezbolla be doing in West Africa of all places, i think the ignorance of nigerians anything that sounds arab is immidiately classified as a terrorist organization.
I sincerely believe that this is that same kind of Operation Carried out against the Iranians on Africa to isolate Iran from nations like nigeria and make it look like they are sponsors of terrorism. They are now doing the same to hezbollah. Look at those weapons and tell if it is even usuable, the grenades has no pins and the rifles are all rusty, who will fight with these. i want any body who has used a weapon on the front lines to tell us what ordinary dust can do to your gun talk less of this kind of rust.
Nobody should belive this ploy, Nigerian military,police,Media and Government has been hijacked by the evil Imperialist West and the opinions of the people is thoroughly and freely manipulated.

GenBuhari: I think that with more and more Nigerians gaining access to the Internet, more young people would eventually be able to by-pass the misinformation being provided by our press/news media and gain access to the truth about what is happening to the country.

In that sense there is hope, but I can not see corrupt elite willingly giving up power, unless they forced to by a revolution of some sort.

The main factor that could force the revolution to happen in Nigeria is oil prices; I believe that if it oil price crashes tomorrow then you could be certain that Nigerian masses would revolt soon after.

Record high oil prices are sustaining the huge levels of corruption.

The oil prices are not clashing soon, and the internet is more of a distractive and misinformation tool to our youth and adults alike than informative. I am not a pessimist but looking at facts and figures on the ground one can only conclude that any form of revolution or violent uprising would not lead to any thing positive. It may only be a variant of the same virus or a more aggressive one. The overall mentality of nigerians are not the one of self sacrifice no is patriotism encouraged anymore. No good man or woman can gain a following no matter how good and realistics his intents are without him sharing money or involving itself in the same affliction which it has risen to destroy thereby becoming a contradiction to itself(a more dangerous scenario). Again due to the ignorance of the masses and the arsenal of tools to the black man's enemy it is quite easy to hijack any form of movement that is not necessary an opposition but any movement that goes contrary to the overlords imperialistic intents.
A figure head is easily created among africans once you can furnish the individual with monetary assets and people are less idealistic and analytic enough to attach much importance to cause that does not pay immediately.
What is the scenario by which such movement can succeed ? You already have OPC, Afenifere and MASSOB and the decadence and partisanship is slowly being absorbed by the military which remain the last bastion of integrity for any nation. What scenario can possibly led to a positive outcome ? What factors or variable needs to be set to ever realise a progressively and continuous outcome ?

GenBuhari: ^
Good point.
Well our decline all started with the assassination of Abacha and the power to re-direct the nation falling back into the hands of IBB.
The rest is history

The Nigerian press is no longer independent and is used to confuse , misinform and subdue the masses.

Personally do you think there is any hope for this nation ?
I have came across few enlightened people whom the masses can learn a lot from but the problem is how to get the masses to listen and think deep for themselves, dropping all former notions and looking at facts with an open mind. How would go about this if you had the means ?

Now i always ask myself how we ended up with the likes of Obasanjo and Goodluck, those who has not invested any time to understand the problems of the nation nor showed any capability of solving national issues intelligently without resorting to mafia tactics. Here a man is making sense, bringing theories and evidence from contemporary practices and historical observations, and we ended up with people whom has no interest in anything progressive.

Are they from the same useless SSS that brutaly kill innocent citizens in cold blood ? How can the SSS even release their identity ? Nigerian security services is the number one enemy to Nigeria's progress. More would be dying soo in Jesus Name.

tomakint: Flawed? You know for a high profile case as Abacha's death there were so many conspiracy theories to it and one of them is what I just quoted above! Perhaps you know more, please feel free to enlighten us, that's why I am here!

There were few threads around where the cause of Abacha's death were furiously debated. All we know is that Abacha's death was induced and that is what we were working with. Most of the posters above and some other threads choose the factual and logical rather than conspiratorial and bizzare for their conclusions. Factual because it is based on statements from numerous persons whom were active on the scene.

tomakint: Abacha's excessive and reckless penchant for anything in skirt cost him his life! IBB knew him too well, a spiked condom was said to have been handed over to a former girlfriend of Abacha through the knowledge of Al-Mustapha as orchestrated by the gap-toothed General up his hilltop Mansion at Minna! Abacha was actually on a mission - to destroy the hegemony of the Hausa/Fulani and strong influence of the Caliphate! If he had succeeded, the Hausa/Fulani hegemony would have longed been history, the moment he touched Shehu Yar'Adua and put Dasuki (Sultan of Sokoto) under house arrest after forcing him off his throne, his problem with the Kaduna Mafia began. From reliable sources, IBB was to be clamped into detention and something had to be done fast! Abacha in his own little way tried, but God had a better plan! I believe, if General Useni had emerged, Abiola would have been killed and other detainees (Obj, Diya and co)!

your assumption is seriously flawed. A dignitary from the middle east came the day before, and the head of state spent his evening with another military man till the late hours of the night, from the time he declared his ailment to his death was roughly seven hours or a bit more, i don't see how a girlfriend would fit in between. Also the sequence of events were clearly stated. None of the people who came in contact before, during and after his death(19 hours in all) mentioned any female participant, not even his wife. I found out that the buffons that usually mention a female participant were no where near the scene of event.

GenBuhari: The overwhelming circumstantial evidence against Al Mustapha include:

1. He was responsible for Abacha's personal security. The fact that it was breached must mean he needs to answer questions.

Quite overwhelming indeed but lets take it one after another.
Al mustapha was in charge of Abacha's personal security - fact.
As such he must be the first to be de-briefed after the incident - fact.
Also No security setup is Bullet Proof - fact.
The Operation that resulted in Abacha's death is not kinetic(no guns,bombs,hit team) -fact.
After de-briefing no evidence pointed against his involvement(insider assistance) -fact.
Conclusion- in any security related outfit the operators involved is never held responsible for the breach of security if a plausible sequence of events that led to the breach could be provided.(world security and investigation standards- acceptable in international courts) that is why you don't hold security men responsible after a bank robbery,assassination, kidnapping etc.

2. He was with Abacha as he was dying (at scene of the crime).

Abacha dying moments were not the scene of the crime, the crime has already been successfuly carried out. Again such attributes are often misleading in an investigation because we would now have, Al Mustapha, Abacha's doctor, the cleaner, the porter and anybody that was in that house as being part of the assassinating team. So therefore just as a doctor would not be immediatly charged for homicide for taking care of the patient till his death so is the Al- Mustapha as Abacha's chief security officer, by the nature of their job and posts they are not supposed to be at any other place except where they were and infact being away from the target would raise suspicions.

3. Assuming that IBB was responsible for Abacha's poisoning, the fact that he then allowed IBB into Aso Rock Villa to chair meeting to decide Abacha's successor, throws suspicion on about his involvement in Abacha's assassination.

Assuming that IBB was(a very dangerous assumption), Most official release of Mustapha's narration did not mention IBB's presence at the convention of the Supreme Military Council as he was not part of it. Now Assuming he was there do you want to say the override the decision of all the members of the Supreme Military Council even though he is no longer a soldier ? You can now see how many " assumptions" it took us to get to this conclusion and the assumption can even go on till ever until we can simply assume that "IBB killed Abacha" period , then the assumptions ends. Assuming IBB did not kill Abacha........

4. All his actions as soon as he "discovered" Abacha's death where consistent with carrying out IBB's / CIA's plan wishes:
State until elections.

5. Changing guards at the villa before Abacha's death was announced.

I had 4 and 5 together because one is an extension of the other. All his actions were expected of a well trained intelligent officer.
Changing officers is a precautionary military measure of any military ruled nation. When there is to be a coup, it is usually believed that at the planning stage the enemy has penetrated most of the presidential guards since they will be relied on to access the seat of power. Changing them at such point scrambles the enemy's plan at a crucial period leaving him with less time to reorganise or the much appealing option of taking a much overt and brutal procedure to achieve its goal(open invasion of Aso Rock) so i really don't see any thing suspicious about that.

GenBuhari: No evidence, but the circumstantial evidence that suggests Al Mustapha was involved in Abacha's assassination is overwhelming.

A few of the implied evidence would really help us to make a conclusion that would satisfy all parties.
Mind you that those are implied not factual and therefore susceptible to conclusions based on sentiments and previous grievances(preconceived notions). That being said; we will still love to hear it.

GenBuhari: Are you forgetting that you are talking about Nigeria?

How does it seem possible that Abdulsalami Abubakar who is Babangida's own cousin could be questioned about a Abacha's that IBB was responsible for.

Has it not occurred to you that IBB and his relations are above the law?

They do not have to question anybody about Abacha's death because the nobody was asking questions as Nigeria apparently accepted without question that Abacha died in the arms of Indian prostitutes after taking viagra.

General Useni has kept his head down and has avoided blaming anyone for Abacha's death, so he has been left alone.

Yeah you have a point there, the Nigerian factor always applies. We have a dead end and there is still no sufficient evidence to justify your allegations.
It does not really make sense to imprison someone who knew too much, because no matter how high above the law someone is an evidence or testimony remains against him and such can be used any day. Once friendly partners can turn foes and call it up and you will see a whole new fierce legal machine moving against him. Al Mustapha has not provided us with such which shows he knows little and they threw him into prison which also implies he is not a threat to them.
I am still researching the power hand over though.

GenBuhari: According to what I read somewhere, Al Mustapha implied that Abacha started feeling unwell immediately after meeting with Yasser Arafat and shaking hands with one of the white security guards with him.
He also said he suspected General Useni because he had been with Abacha until the early hours.

He later implied Abdulsalami Abubakar (and therefore by extrapolation IBB) when he stated that Abiola and Abacha were meant to be killed on the same day and they appear to have died from the same poison. I believe he outright blamed Abdulsalami Abubakar of killing Abiola, which would imply he also blamed Abubakar of killing Abacha.
I believe he has probably said as much as he could say without exposing his own participation in Abacha's assassination.

If he SUSPECTED Useni then i believe that Useni would have been questioned in court and likewise Abdulsalami. He only suspected Arafat's bodyguards and sometime implied that certain persons in the military circle also wants Abacha dead. He never said that they were responsible. A man like Al Mustapha is very careful with his proclaimations.

GenBuhari: He did not only know, but he participated in the assassination of Abacha.

Who in their right mind would confess to the assassination of a serving Head of State. It would only earn him a death penalty.

Did he confess to killing Abacha or did he confess to Abacha being assassinated by other parties? These two claims leads to differently conclusions. If he did the former then i might question his sanity. It is expected for a man in his situation to do certain things given the circumstances on which he found himself. If i may ask , who did Al Mustapha suspected of killing Abacha ?

If Nigerians would listen to this man for once , just this once , i believe that just 4 years is enough for the guy to show them what he is about. Nigerians would have so many revelations in that 4 years years that they will be shocked that so much is happening in the same country they live in.

now you should ask why should somebody that knew so much be given the opportunity to spill what he knew . he has been to court over and over, he even went to the extent of providing sacks of security tapes and other forms of evidence but non ever implicated those men you mentioned . if he knew so much wouldn't he have use what he knew to save himself ? aren't that what humans are about ? self survival ? his not providing any incriminating evidence shows he knew little of the plan if any, his not implicating any of those local(Nigerian) culprits either by claims or providing evidence; even false evidence at that shows how alienated he is in the whole scenario .
do you have another way of looking at the whole event which might make us see things differently ?

payless: Al-Mustapha is sitting in prison today because of his actions during Abacha regime. Abdulsalami had no choice but to take action against Al-Mustapha after Abacha died. Instead of Al-Mustapha to lay low, he started disobeying Abdulasalami after he became Head of State. He was telling Abdulsalami that he got to the post of Head of State because he wanted him to get there. Al-Mustapha started behaving like someone who is likely to plan coup. He told Abdulsalami that he could have become Head of State himself if he wanted to. As Abubakar was trying to dismantle Abacha's apparatus, Al-Mustapha was interfering. Abdulasalami had no choice but to arrest him.

even though i can't confirm most of the above. The point is would he have been arrested if he knew so much ? A witness and an evidence is a very powerful advantage in the game of Blackmail. If so much has been exposed of Al Mustapha why would he be beating around trying to implicate others with weak evidence and videos if he can actually implicate one or more of the main power brokers ?

payless: Considering the circumctantial eveidence, one has to conclude Al-Mustapha knew how Abacha was posisoned.

Al Mustapha may know how Abacha was poisoned but that is quite different to knowing that Abacha was to be poisoned. Non of his actions which we know about shows that he is complicit with the plan.
His actions afterwards were to be expected given the circumstances which he found himself.
The question which nobody has raised so far is that if he was a key player in this event, if he knew so much about the plan and was actually part of it which implies that he was quite close to those whom has gripped power after Abacha's death and must have held their trust and respect to take part in a plan of which any failure will mean death for all involved, why then would he be allowed to be rotting in jail when his friends were the new owners of Nigeria ?
If he had knew so much and has had the opportunity to appear in court why hasn't he spilled a bit in order to force his former comrades(ie if your claim were right) to rethink on the positions which they have taken so far on his case ? At least they will be pushed to either eliminate him cause he knew too much or sought his release for the same reason. As it is none of these has happened .

ACM10: But mind you that it is not easy to be a paganist or an atheist in this part of the world. You will be virtually ostracized by the dominant religions.

i don't totally agree with the above because if you move up to Uke in the same Idemili North there is an active pagan Movement going on, they even have uniforms. When i was in Nigeria last year i attended a burial of one of my relatives and believe me it not like the other rubbish we are used to. For those of us whom were not born and raised in Africa i for once felt the Africaness of the event, the deepness, the connection and life which sustained it. I think that is what we all need, a Pagan Movement like that. The Colonialists used the Bloody Christianity to exploit us and now their left over Zombies are after us still.

alfaman1: I feel like bombing a church.

I feel the same way too. I have read all the man's books and this is exactly what he was preaching against. Igbos has been brainwashed soo much that they are now dangerous unto themselves. Imagine a titled man, does the church have any idea what happens when he got the title and the process.
I look at Igbos and their struggle for Biafra and i just laugh.

GenBuhari: Did you not remember that IBB suddenly from retirement gained the power to select Obasanjo as the next leader of Nigeria and direct the destiny of Nigeria once Abdulsalami Abubakar became military ruler.

IBB did not select Obasanjo, Washington did. IBB did well for the Imperialist Bankers and Multinationals during his regime and he wants to come back as well but Obasanjo was choosen afterall because IBB was hated by Western and Eastern Nigeria for reasons which you already know of. The charade and deception which was played on nigeria in 1999 all in the name of Democracy would not have worked had IBB been choosen.
Let nigerians never for once fool themselves that they choose their leaders because the don't , their consent is engineered, their elections rigged, their candidates choosen even before they know he is running for president.

GenBuhari: There were 2 ways of deciding Abacha's succession.

One was military rank

The other was seniority in the cabinet.

I am not sure which way round but Jeremiah Useni was highest in one category and Abdulsalami Abubakar was the highest in the other.

Al Mustapha engineered the decision to go Abdulsalami Abubakar's favour by informing him and his / IBB's supporters about Abacha's death first and informing Abacha's loyalist last of all. Why did he do this if he was not party to the plot to poison Abacha?

I really find it hard to believe that Mustapha would switch to Babangida's tent since during Abacha's regime Mustapha was very effective and even enthusiastic in crushing all efforts by Babangida to build back his power base, infact the brutality of Abacha against him effectively isolated him from most people whom are afraid to have his bad fortune rubbed off on them. In all those time Al Mustapha was the key head of those policies and common sense would have told him to avoid IBB by all means when Abacha died.

GenBuhari: Can you elaborate on who you think killed Abacha and how you think the may have done it?
The question still remains, why did Al Mustapha effectively hand power to IBB instead of one of Abacha's loyalists?

The Mossad effectively obtained an asset very close to Arafat, some of his most trusted bodyguards are Mossad agents. Israel wants to snuff him out when they want it. The problem is that just doing that at any period would escalate the situation in a way not favourable to Israel. Anyway we do have all indications that the poison that killed Abacha was administered on Arafats Visit and i strongly believe that the US made use of Israeli assets to accomplish the Job. I can name a couple of chemicals of which just a minutes administration would induce the same effect described on Abacha last moments. There are also many ways to inject somebody with minute dosage of any chemical without the person knowing though such techniques are not very common.
All these does not rule out the fact the Babangida wants Abacha out and may have assisted in the plot one time or another but his assets did not contribute much to the end result.

Many people do not understand the implication of the UN statement, Looking at what happened in Libya when islamic extremist were armed by the west to topple and destroy the nation, Syria where the same extremists are trying to topple and destroy the nation and were openly funded by the West, Mali where extremists as well were tying to establish a foothold and were covertly funded and trained by Israel and USA. You could see that as soon as these groups were activated for a stated objective the western media changes it stance from Terrorist to rebels and then onward to a sort of Goverment Oppositions instead of the Terrorist that they are, the situation becomes deliberatly disfigured from a terrorist mayhem to what the western media likes to call a Civil war, thereby granting them the rights of enemy combatant instead of being judged by law when captured as terrorists.
Now the UN used the phrase "WAR Crimes", intelligent people will now ask themselves which war ? Between which nation and who ? What are they agitating for ? When has Nigeria declared a war and what characteristics grants Boko Haram that status. Nations with proper and patriotic Intelligence Services would cull from this UN statement the plan of the Enemies against Nigeria, their intended objectives and the diplomatic stance they intend to take once their operation has passed incubation stage. Alas we don't have any of these and nobody really cares.

Lets try to look at this more differently, lets assume that Al Mustapha was betrayed by Abubakar whom sold out to the requests of washington to hand over to a civillian regime with obasanjo as the prospective puppet. Lets assume that Babangida also wants Abacha dead and therefore naturaly joined clique and provided human assets and assistance in there numerous tries to assasinate Abacha. Lets also assume that Babangida's plan of assuming power(whether directly or by proxy) was bungled and shunned by Washington for a more smoother and favorable plan so Babangida did not get what he wants afterall . Lets assume that the clique and not necessary Babangida realized their objectives.

If i say that the same team that killed Yasser Arafat are the ones that killed Abacha would anyone believe me ?