₦airaland Forum

noblezone: If I understand you well, to get the nations that will support Biafra at the UN when it matters is not begging for enslavement.

It was the British support for Nigeria that dealt the heavy blow on Biafra. The New Biafra is on the march. Nigeria will be so surprised!

Will they support biafra in Biafra's interest or will they support Biafra for their own selfish interest ?
What you really don't understand is that if they will support Biafra it will be only for their own picks for leaders and when they succeed which i believe they would then Biafra will just be a mirror image of Nigeria at best or a clone of Mali.

I will vote for Buhari if i am around , the man is generally honest and more transparent than the fraudsters we have now. My only irk against him is that he is unconsciously tribalistic. He may not know it but he is. His inspiration only stops on how to develop the norther agricultural sector which is the only glory they ever had. He is a good candidate for fighting corruption and bringing back the glory of Nigeria if the masses will support him, because just as the case of his predecessors the masses are prone to being brainwashed and posed against their liberator.
All and all i will support him still if i had the chance.

how can people be begging to be enslaved in this 21st century, anyway i see another point to this as the slave masters pushing(advising) ignorant buffoons to ask for their enslavement.

Yes, that is what western styled democracy is all about, as long as we don't look inwards and continue to wish to be like the white man, we will always fail at leadership and our leaders will always be puppets of those nations that we wish to be like.

Pedagogue: All I see Is -South Africa is taking over our economy....and we are jubilating!!!

As it is in d telecommunication sector (mtn and Dstv), so it is in our 'local market' sector.


Fresh air!!!

It baffles me as well. If left to me i think it is better to have them feel the misery they put themselves in. Ignorance is bliss until it comes back to bite back at them.

ZUBY77: Dear Lagos state,
[size=16pt]The federal govt is trying to privatize these things for effective management.[/size] Why would it sell it to another govt establishment?
Govt regimes are bound to change every four or eight years in every state. How do you plan to transit from the current govt to the future one especially when it comes to these structures. No, we want it in the hands of individual companies .

I will not be surprised when the bigots turn this into ACN vs PDP

How do our people buy into this sort of reasoning? The Federal Government with its foreign neoliberal backers are trying to sell off every asset of interest to these financial vampires and that spells doom for Nigerians, in the name of privatization; Nigeria (meaning all the peripherals that marks its sovereignty) will be sold off, imagine where your federal government refuses to sell to the state but PREFERS a private investor, are you not alarmed ? how on earth can you link efficiency with private ownership ?

safarigirl: I've made my point.

NL guys should stop attributing gold digging to only women when it's in every one of us.

At leats with girls you know what you're getting into, they don't put up any facades unlike their shameless male counterparts.

i think if we are to be logical there is no reasonable way a man could ever be called a gold digger.

safarigirl: Wondering why men who God made providers would want to alter that and become liabilities to those they ought to provide for.

oooh Welcome to the world of Gender Equality. I guess the say now should be "WHAT A WOMAN CAN DO A MAN CAN DO BETTER" Women and their hypocrisy.

Sunny_bobo: You are a bloody liar!!

Buhari headed PTF from March, 1995 to 1999. An by the way, the Afenifere report was presented to Oputa panel in 2000 long before Buhari ever dreamt of contesting for the Presudency.

The question was how many of such projects did Obasanjo built with excess crude revenues and resources at his reach. PTF was not made known to the people with television and newspaper propaganda ,people knew it existed from its visible works irrespective of where they are, you are talking about roads as if that is the only things that there is, what about the free books, subsidized medicines and much more, at least i witnessed that myself in the southeast.
Your Obj did not improve on anything instead he sold almost all public assets off to his foreign friends in the name of privatisation.

kandiikane: I have smoked weed quite a few times and I have had good and bad experiences with it.
The first time I took it it was shared around and I only got a few puffs in and I just had that giggly and happy feeling everything was good around me flowers trees etc.
I too it quite a few times again with the same people same feelings.
Oneday I got a small bag of skunk and I went to my friends to roll it for me not realising that it was 3 in one but I smoked the whole joint in one anyway. After about 15minutes or so(was sitting opposite a mirror) I looked in it and I saw my face been repeated alot(lol I don't know how to explain it but that is how I felt). I just had a feeling something was wrongand I told my friend the next thing I can remember is I thought I was dead or inbetween life and death. I was screaming(but later I was told I was not it was in my head). I was dehydrated(I drank a 1.5 bottle of water in one go) I told my friends to take me to hospital but they said they will get in trouble lol so I asked for my mother got the same reply.

I got up and took my jacket and threw it over my head and went in the street and started humming to my self. I literally thought I was mad and that this is how you feel when you are mad. I remembered my heart was beat furiously I could literally hear it in my ears which scared my. I was told I kept on murmuring and I remember been told to stop been worried quite a few times because that made my experience worse. I later when home got in bed and could not really sleep because when I cover myself I did get hot and when I removed the cover I was cold so I just did half and half My friends thought the reason I had that experience is because I had a gin(a spirit) and it was not happy with the weed.

Because of this experience I vow never to smoke weed again but I did it once more with a different group of friends in a tight room and I just felt my heart picking up pace(I get scare when I can hear my heart) and became paranoid and what made it worst is that this a friend of my friend was there and he has those eyes that will be staring at two different directions and I thought he was going to rape me. So I wanted to leave but they told me they will drop me home, I agreed but on the way my friend came out of the car to go cash point and left me with the guy and the eyes and I literally open the door as the car was moving to get out. This experience was not as bad though.

Last weed experience about a month ago:
I vowed again never to smoke it again but it is just too tempting. This time I was smoking in rounds and for like an hour itdid not feel anything and I was like this weed is sh[i]it[/i]. I smoked finish after about 5 weed sticks and ready to go home. I started shaking when I was walking to the busstop ut I thought nothing of it. My friend asked me can you feel it after a while and all of a sudden I just felt something come over me starting from the top of my head. My started to feel my heart-I hate that feeling it just scares the living daylight outta me and I became worried he told me to calm down and I was like "Yes, I will be calmed, you just do not worry" Bus came stumbled unto it and I thought to myself did  people see my stumble, do they know I have smoked. Sat and my head just kept on spinning(not in a bad way), I just had loads and loads of thoughts in my head but I was fine. Came off the bus stop this guy I knew from somewhere by looking at him  I realised he too was high(Have you noticed that  you recognise someone who is high when you are straight away even on the streets its like you are in another "world" looking in on this world and you are all connected).  . I got home and I do not what I was looking for but I just kept on going up and down the stairs looking for something for about an hour I was just walking about repeating things I just did and then all of a sudden I get this realisation that I am high and that is why I am just walking around the house. I will go lie on my bed after a few minutes I will get up and go look that smae thing I was looking for then I will realise agian I am high and I will go back to bed- well let say I continued to do this until I slept cannot remember when
Tori done
I again vow never to touch it.
I did not proof read because I know it is quite long so sorry guys for the spellings in advance.

my roomie had this same experience back in the varsity days, i was really confused on how to handle him because i was blazed myself so i just let him wander up and down and i made sure i locked the door. Good old days.

cap28: I find that people who come from poverty like you are usually the biggest advocates of the ruling elite - you are not alone in this pathetic mindset, the majority of nigerians like you who grow up in poverty think that if you identify with the rich you automatically are regarded as one of them - I've got news for you - a dog that was born in a stable can never be regarded as anything more than a dog

thank God i am not the only one that has witnessed this. It always baffles me when the most vulnerable are the strongest supporters of the elites most destructive policies.

bigfrancis21: If at all Igalas reside in some of the oil communities of Anambra and the anambra igalas decide to turn around and become part of Kogi, they are free to pack and relocate to Kogi state. That some igbo-speaking Igalas are located on the shores Anambra doesn't mean that that portion of land is not authentically anambra's neither does it mean that these shore locations are easily subject to debate to decide today or tomorrow when it becomes Kogi or Anambra. The boundary lines of Anambra state have long been created and I don't see why the lines should be adjusted to remove the anambra igala area from Anambra state to Kogi just because they are igala. At state borders all over the country we observe ethnicities of one state spilling over into their neighboring states at the border lines but yet that hasn't altered boundary lines.
There are oil-producing Igbo communities in Rivers state and I don't see Imo nor Abia struggling to claim them to be theirs just because they are Igbo speaking. The boundaries of all the 36 states have been drawn and demarcated long ago and need to be respected as such.

You really don't understand where i am coming from although i can understand how you derived your conclusion.
Sometimes i think the black man is too hot-blooded to reason clearly or maybe i just don't understand the problem with us.

nnenna.1:
Can you further elaborate on this and explain how the fight between Aguleri and Kogi (with Anambra Igala stuck in the middle) would yield any result as far as allocation?

It will be easier to understand if you look back to similar events, you will clearly see that the Big players just want their hands in the pie, the masses on both sides are just pawns. A particular side believes that with aggression they can persuade the other to accept that they have a share in the dividend, war is a form of persuasion albeit a babaric sort. What the NBC dictates after the aggression has no value once a side has been overruled. Read my above post about the elites finding a common ground to appease each other.

My point in this whole discussion is how is this quarrel even exists or is supposed to be settled, especially if the two states don't determine who gets what as per FG allocation or where the oil should be drilled. How many people in Aguleri, Ibaji, Kogi, even know the chemical composition of oil and how to drill it in the first place?

As soon as you become aware that it is the greedy and selfish elites that are fighting for oil and not the people and that the ignorant people are mobilized as a means by those elite to give form to their claim and ultimately achieve their goal you will understand how the problem came to be and why the masses whom knows nothing about geology,oil drilling or even its composition would feel concerned.

Another thing - You also seem to be saying that the Aguleris are alienating the Igalas in Anambra, as well as other Igbos in Anambra. I agree that the outburst against Enugu in particular may be unwarranted. I would like to see concrete examples about how Aguleri people/leaders are manipulative and completely in the fault as opposed to the Anambra Igala and Kogi leaders.

I did not remember saying that the Igalas in anambara are being alienated rather i pointed out that the Igbos(not even Agulureri) are pushing them into a situation where they could make decisions that will not favor the Igbos now and maybe when we will need them the most. This is a section of strategic planning that is well researched in many universities though i can't say igbos have exposed advisers from their actions. Think about the Kurds,which are part of iraq,turkey and syria being minorities in three countries but large enough to be a country on its own.
On how the elites are manipulative of the masses and alienates other igbos, since we are igbos i suggest we don't discuss that here, persons intimate with the nature of the business going on there would agree with me.

bestview: You are really not making any sense. No wonder Nnenna left you in your illusions. Anambra people are hardworking and established people already, we are not known to be cowards and lazy people. Before oil was found in Anambra, we Anambrans have been living large. Tell that your tales to your kogi lazy people, who is fighting a lost battle.

The good thing is that the Oil Company and the Refinery is owned 100% by Anambra state and its people. We explore the oil, refine and sale it. Create the wealth, create employment for our people and advance our economy. This practice is different from what is obtained in Niger Delta where foreigners are in charge.

I find it really hard to relate any point in my post with any that you raised above. I never said anambrarians are not industrious, i never denied that they own the company, infact none of that was part of our argument.
I always find your kind absurd and repulsing.

The oil company even though owned by anambrarians is ready to play ball with anybody that benefits them most.

nnenna.1:
The issue is that Igbo vs. Kogi should not even come up at all in this scenario. The fault lies on whoever first decided to (foolishly) make this a boundary/ethnic issue.

Again, the rights to drill the oil was purchased by a private company that happened to drill on the Aguleri side of the fence. Kogi state is not awarded an oil producing state courtesy of the FG.

I believe someone else mentioned that if this deal was pursued and executed by a foreign oil company, nobody would even blink an eyelid.

which side the oil is drilled does not make any sense to whomever the aggressor is, believe me the allocation is what matters most. The masses will be here talking about whose land the oil is on and fighting nonsensical wars while the elites will be discussing how to share the money to appease each other. Once the elites settles and agrees who gets what they will come out and calm the masses, gives them some silly conclusion and everybody gets back to work and they face their new pot of gold. We are a hopeless people i tell you.

nnenna.1:
OK...exactly what do you expect "igbos" to do in this scenario to exhibit better thinking or planning skills?

The two relevant parties here are orient refinery and the FG.

It is more deeper than that, proper strategic thinking with a pre-emptive factor is implemented collectively will not only benefit the Igbo nation but will make events turn out in their favor when the next 'Big Thing' since people the interest of people in those areas will be aligned with the interest of the igbos without them feeling used.
I said it was deeper than that because on the igbo side it is composed of elites using the ignorant masses to attain their selfish interests. On the Kogi side it is entirely a different story.

nnenna.1:
OK...exactly what do you expect "igbos" to do in this scenario to exhibit better thinking or planning skills?

The two relevant parties here are orient refinery and the FG.

It is more deeper than that, proper strategic thinking with a pre-emptive factor if implemented collectively will not only benefit the Igbo nation but will make events turn out in their favor when the next 'Big Thing' comes since the interest of people in those areas will be aligned with the interest of the igbos without them feeling used.
I said it was deeper than that because on the igbo side it is composed of elites using the ignorant masses to attain their selfish interests. On the Kogi side it is entirely a different story.

nnenna.1:
Are you saying this as an Igbo out of concern for Igbos?

Not exactly sure why you want the Igbo nation to fail woefully.

because from contemporary studies quasi nations like igbo nation can not learn from one mistake, they need to really suffer to learn. The black man and in this case the igbo man does not think or plan for the future(pre civil war igbos are an exception) i am igbo.

nnenna.1:
What side started this whole quarrel?

I don't think that the statement from Aguleri (per this news) came out of the blue.

It really does not interest me who started the brawl , what concerns me is the psychological impact on the unity of the Igbo nation, the efficiency which it grants the opportunist to blow the notion of anambara or enugu to achieve their selfish goal and sustaining that mindset if it assures more profit. A larger sense of being a minority is already being created by the Kogis on Anambara Igala(Innoma,nzam etc) and these people no longer feel at home since their sense of royalty is now questioned by both sides, whatever becomes the outcome these events would shape the perception of the constituting inhabitants of that area and would largely affect their decision or policies on future events and loyalties as well.
Igbo nation is expecting a decisive event in the future and these little events is what will shape and define their capability and also ability attain their objectives in such theater.
These considerations shapes national policies and igbos still don't see themselves as a nation. They all have forgotten the strategic importance of Idah during the civil war and none has learned nothing. Honestly i would love to witness the Igbo nation fail again, this time woefully.

bestview: You must be a demented old f00l for saying that. Anambra state and its people invested on the entire project. So it belongs to Anambra people. Aguleri is being mentioned as against other states is because Aguleri is capable of razing down kogi state. If Anambra as a state comes in then Kogi people will relocate to Sokoto. Fact!

please don't call me names.
Ask the anambrarian beside you will see that his notion of whom the oil belongs to does not include himself. Forget the image we would all like to project on the internet but this is the truth on the ground.
And when you say anambara invested you fail to understand the elitist ,capitalist and exploitative nature of such investments in they sense that after all the fracas and violence the real investors would appear to reap their returns, that is after you have fought and lost relatives in the name of Anambara.

One_Naira: i was against the drilling of this aguleri oil in the first place but i have to say Thank you to this piece. Enugu listen to this Man.

I was also against the drilling of the oil. I was invited last september to december to several meeting of the youths,chiefs and other interested party, what i simply found out is that a few selfish people are pushing and using the larger ignorant masses to attain their selfish goal. Since these men are revered and considered heroes back in Aguleri trying to alert an indigene is a waste of time.

alj harem: Why ? What have they done ?

Don't you see that the mentality of igbos of today is quite different from the mentality of the igbos that fought the civil war? My dad said maybe it is caused by the creation of states and christianity but that is his theory, i think it is stupidity all around. Did you not notice that it is Aguleri Vs Kogi STATE Vs Enugu STATE ? Since it was oil it becomes only for Aguleri alone, it is no longer an igbo thing but Aguleri thing. When the battle begins the whole Kogi will form a united front with large assistance from their other muslim none igbo brethren, Aguleri on the other hand would fight alone. Even other Anambrarians would not have the interest since they have never felt the oil belongs to them. Now imagine Aguleri against Enugu an igbo state just because of oil. You don't know how easy it is to destroy igboland if the enemy were more intelligent.

I will really like the situation to escalate and degenerate into war, Igbos really need to be taught a lesson.
A very bitter lesson.

Koonbey1: lol,you're wrong,i would not quote the bible,and neither do i suffer from the Bible Malady,as you put it;maybe you missed my point where i said i am not a christian,nor muslim...anyway,the views you have just expressed are classic anti semite views; there is nothing on this Earth that has no positives. another post you must have missed is the one(s) where i copied a wikipedia article on the State of Iran's direct and Indirect Involvement in Terrorism,check that out,or check this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state_terrorism . and about Israel being Bigot,was it you or someone else who said that Israel is inherently Bigot because its a Jewish State,and so all non jews are Second class citizens,well,im sure you know that Iran's full name is the Islamic Republic of Iran,so what does their religious tolerance? The Basic Truth is that Iran is a Nation of Islamic Extremists,founded and led on a path of Islamic Fundamentalism by their Ayatollah Khomeini,who calls Israel the same things you call them,but who doesn't like it being made public that he sent 95,000 child Soldiers to their Deaths against Chemical Weapons during the War with Iraq

You just sidestepped my question, i expect you to keep repeating endlessly that Iran is this and and the Satan's Junior brother and all but i also expected you to give a verifiable response to my question in a way we can actually extract your answers, What is it that Iran does WORSE than Israel ? How can Iran be anti-Semite since Iran has more Jews than any country in the middle east, and most eastern European nations. when you say that Iran is an extremist nation (under the religious class) what exactly do you mean and what verifiable events made you to classify them as such ?

when you have answers to the question above then we would have a solid reason to debate on.

africanchampion: Ignorant and arrogant? No my friend, you are the one presenting biased and mishap points! Just let me know if you are willing and ready to read/listen to my own facts/points then I will roll out the drums for you.
But if you are not interested, then I will take it you are just here to troll and bash people for no cause. Just let me know you are ready to be reasonable then I will illuminate you with facts, ok? Thank you

No don't bother, your style of presentation is not such that i am interested to continue, pardon my being so blunt but it is a fact that we can all see clearly from your previous post.
I rather involve with young but civil people like Koonbey than people who can only "role out drums".

Koonbey1: I make no claims on Israel being a "good" Nation or not,i hear they are "oppressive,exploitative and bigoted",but my point is;the are no more worse than their Neighbors,like Iran. I dont know what it is you experienced in Israel,but seriously,wouldn't Iran have been worse?

I was thinking that for Iran to be worse they must do something that israel does or surpass Israel in doing that. To my disappointment you have failed to point out what evil iran does MORE than Israel or even that which it does to the extent israel does it. I have not come across where Iran has been described as expansionist,oppressive,exploitative and bigoted and somehow you have avoided pointing us to same evidence. Iran has never invaded any country for centuries and Iran though constituting populations of different religions has never in current history classified anyone,segregated any group or restricted them from their opportunities on the basis of religion or race. Do you know their is a jewish member in the Iranian House of assembly ? Could you say that of Israel ? Could anything Positive at all ever be said about Israel ? COULD YOU ? (without quoting the omnipotent and ever ambigous Bible)
sometimes people like you will jump at how boko haram members were made to belive something as stupid as the 17 virgins without questioning it just because the Koran said so but you simply fail to understand that you suffer from the same malady of which you accuse them of.

Koonbey1: now,I understand your points but IMHO;you're wrong,Yes,the Goal is what matters,ok,so since you say the other wars fought by Israel are Irrelevant,then consider the Fact that Israel;as a Nation .has achieved and is still achieving the purpose for which it was Created,which is providing a home;a safe Haven for People of Jewish Descent this of course includes cutting the teeth of the Rabid neighbors they are cursed with,which they have been doing decisively.

now,about my age and knowledge...i am young,very young compared to you(going by your training in the 80's),17 years in fact,but even then,i am sure that i hold more knowledge of said Topic than most...gotten by reading on the expansively on the Topic.

there is a popular saying in the intelligence field that "ideologies always has unique effects and effects are infectious" Israel has never achieved anything on its own and from all counts all over the world they are oppressive,exploitative and bigoted so any nation that assists israel will be infected with the same hatred and image that israel is know with. I don't think you will understand the statement above and its implications but i pray you give it a thought to see where i am coming from.

africanchampion: Woah! Woah! Woah! Hold it right there, gentleman! Have you not heard? No nation or man has ever declared that a country should be wiped out of the world map except the Iranian man? Google it and see! Israel was declared by these Iranian blood suckers as a nation that needs to be wiped out of the world map! And as for the "Chosen people" you refer to as "myth", well I have loads of proofs for you. In the meantime let me see how you respond to this first, then I would come banging on you with shocking revelations about the foundation and time line of terrorism. Enjoy

You ignorance and arrogance is alarming, someone presented you with facts and articulated his points in clear,comprehensible and verifiable form and all you have as a response is some garbage.

igbo boy: moslems and their sheer love for empty bragging....
Na so osama start
na so taliban start
na so ghadaffi start
na so saddam start


were are all of them now? mstcheeeew......coward cult...if na to go and bomb planes and buses with children and women na that one dem go carry first....go and fight your fellow comnbatant una go run enter bush...

If you can for once desist from seeing Iranians as Muslims and start seeing them as a nation, if you can take your time and look back through all articles you have read so far and see that this has never been a religious problem and nobody except bigots and ignorant yes members has classified it as such, if you can try to find any place or time that the iranians has ever held anything against israel and citied religion as their cause. If you can do just two of any of the above i will believe anything you said.
There are Christians, Jews and Copts in Iran and nobody has ever molested them based on their religion. Iranian Jews REFUSED To go back to Israel showing their displeasure towards Israeli aggression towards iran.

c++_crazy:
[size=16pt]i can see you are smoking bitumen and asphalt.[/size] So small palestine can intimidate israel and only 6 israelis died and up to a hundred palestinians died? I can see dat an average muslim is iredeemable from this brainwashing. When time reach now, na so una go dey show us pictures of dead babie and children dat was killed by missle and that they wer killed while washing plates and if u check well under those his plates, there is an ak-47. When u guys start noticing the war is not going according 2 ur plans, u'l start whinning dat u ar victimized. Guy go caution iran or whosoever it is, cos israel go stil tidy dem fuckup as usual

After such display of arrogance and crudeness how would you expect me to reply to your posts again.

Mind you i am a christian, French Born and Igbo, i even trained in Haifa in the 80's so i don't really hate Israel.