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Logicboy03: This is where you are destroying your own argument. Every society has laws (written or unwritten). The societies that base their laws on common sense and secular ideals live better than those with religious laws.



Since atheists have logic and commonsense to make laws, their societies are generally better.


Compare that to fools like you that prefer the religion to common sense.

of point

onetrack: With religion, you can also do something wrong and then find some verse in your holy book to justify what you did. I fail to see the difference.

Want to invade and take over some other country? Simple, just claim that you want to save their souls from eternal damnation by forcing them to convert to Christianity at gunpoint. This argument was the basis for European colonization for centuries.

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Imagine a country without laws. No constitution..

Morality lies in individual conscience. Such is set to change dependin on circumstance,..no set rules,no set order no set punishment.

With religon, u are given DOS AND DONT. reward for obeying and punishment for disobeying.

In atheism u do sth wrong , use logic to convince urself that it is right ,tel urself u did it because of prevailin circumstance,...

Quietly tiptoe and take a peep in d religon section muslim . Notice one mactunji. Dat guy is a dictator. Just type ISLAM IS THE 2ND RELIGON IN THE..,next minute ur post is hidden. Say WHY I LEFT ISLAM and ure banned. Say ISLAM IS HARSH ON WOMEN and ure post is moved to culture section OR BOKOHARAM SPONSOR ARE MUSLIMSand ure banned to 2039.

Dat guy operate sharia law. He is OSAMA BIN LADEN FIRST GRANDSON. His name mactunji

share urs.

advocate666: will you call ordering a genocide an evil act?

. Why was d genocite orderd? Was it self defence? Was it d only solution? Who were killed?

Rev king is in jail

Then he stole it

Just to feel like ure maried

I recivd one today. It was titled COME AND RECIVE UR MIRACLE. the back was a testimony from hiv -ve to hiv +ve.

It is advertisment

Game over

Relgon isnt relatd to consitution

If God doesnt watch d house, d guard watches in vain

True talk, only you and your brother buari can stop it

Ateist section first

Thks very much .esp d first two speakers

Logicboy03: logicboy and cyrexx

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u cant nominate urself

u cant nominatd a felow atheist

When someone asks "Can God create a square circle?" we usually jump and answer "No, because that would be illogical." More so, we think of this because our definition of a circle contradicts that of having the adjective of square. So, for us you can't have a square circle.

Some may then go to say, "Well, then that means that God is limited by logic, and that would mean that there is something beyond God." Some may then think that this causes a problem in the Christian understanding of God, or say something to the effect of "God chooses to follow logic, which He dictates."

I got to thinking the other day, what if the original premise is wrong. What if the problem with the logic is our definitions. What if God can, in fact, create a square circle Now, I'm not well versed in philosophy, physics, or math, so my thinking may be off, but I do know a bit.

So, my questions for thought to bring to the table:
1) Couldn't you just say that even humans can create a "square circle", which would just simply be a circle that has been squared out, making a square? So a square circle is simply just a square?
2) Or, since there are quantum particles that can reside in two states at once, would it then be possible for God to create a shape which resides in two basic shapes at once, one being a circle and one being a square? Especially since God is not bound by time.

Hi, this is something that has been on my mind more and more, because it contradicts the words of Scripture. For example, 2 Tim. 3:15-17 says, "And because from thy infancy thou hast known the holy scriptures, which can instruct thee to salvation, by faith which is Christ Jesus. All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, that the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work." Thus, the apostle Paul by the inspiration of God, says to Timothy "thou hast known the holy scriptures, which can instruct thee to salvation" and make you "perfect, furnished to every good work."

Rom. 1:16 says, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel. For it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first, and to the Greek. James 1:21 says, "...With meekness receive the ingrafted word, which is able to save your souls." Consequently, the word contained in the Bible is able to save our souls.



The usual arguments I have heard to support the Church's position are on our inability to correctly interpret Scripture and on the fact that the Bible does not contain everything that God taught. But this can also easily be disproved by the word of God in the Scriptures!



The apostle Paul said we can understand what he wrote. "If yet, you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me towards you: how that, according to revelation, the mystery has been made known to me, as I have written above in few words; as you reading, may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ." (Eph. 3:2-4). Paul said the mystery had been made know to him by the revelation of God. He then showed that he was writing it e.g., "as I have written above in few words" (in the chapters prior to this) and "as you reading, may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ." In other words, when we read what he wrote, we can understand what he understood. Paul also said , "For we write nothing to you that you do not read and understand" (2 Cor. 1:13) and "Therefore do not become foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is" (Eph. 5:17). Thus, the inspired writers taught that we most certainly can understand the Scriptures.



The Scriptural proof the Church gives to defend their teaching for the Bible not containing everything God taught, is John 20:30. It says, "Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book." But In John 20:30, John simply said that Jesus did many other signs (miracles) which he did record. Notice, though, what John says in the next verse, "...But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name." Thus, the apostle clearly shows that he wrote sufficient things to produce the faith which brings life in the name of Jesus. Life in the name of Jesus refers to eternal life and it is obtained by belief in the things written by the inspired writers.



I can understand that the Scriptures do not contain everything Jesus did. John said, "There are, however, many other things that Jesus did; but if every one of these would be written, not even the world itself, I think, could hold the books that would have to be written." (John 21:25). Although we do not have everything Jesus did, we do have every necessary thing. We have enough to give us life in His name.



Lastly, the doctrine that the Church is the infallible interpreter of Scripture. The Bible says, "Let God be true, but every man a liar..." (Rom. 3:4). It also warns, "See to it that no one deceives you by philosophy and vain deceit, according to human traditions, according to the elements of the world and not according to Christ." (Col. 2:.



I find more and more evidence in the Bible that a lot of what the Church teaches as doctrine is not backed by Scripture and in fact contradicts Scripture, as I have shown above. Are there other Catholics who find this extremely uncomfortable? Can I be a Catholic (have been all my life!) if I don't accept Church doctrines that contradict Scripture?
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Chelsea interim manager Rafael Benitez says that his rotation policy will pay off for the club at the end of the season, after recently resting members of the key trio of Eden Hazard, Juan Mata and Oscar.


The trio were one of the shining lights behind the club's impressive start to the season under former manager Roberto Di Matteo, but in the last two matches they have been split up, with Mata introduced from the bench after half-time against Fulham, while Oscar was introduced as a second-half substitute against West Ham.

With Chelsea's hopes of Champions League progression hanging in the balance, the interim manager, who was known for rotating his squad during his time at Liverpool, once going 99 games without choosing the same starting XI in consecutive games, has explained those decisions were a lot about resting players to keep them fresh.

"I was trying to analyse things we can do in the same way," Benitez told the club's official website.

www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4067/england/2012/12/05/3580826/benitez-believes-chelsea-squad-rotation-will-pay-off-at-end

I would have sugestdLogic boy ,but dat dude has been banned many times, does dat disqualify him?

Wetin concern u for where they wan do their honeymoon?

Mind ur bisnes

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, no access to girls,kising,smushing, handling, etc is allowed

in priesthood it is not


acting bring cheap fame, priesthood dosent


acting, u make more money

secreyor: When i saw d name,tobechi74,i just remembered one gurl at STACC,FUTO...Very serious catholic chick,her name's also tobechi..@OP,me i've not seen any protestant doing dat n i don't see any point 4 arguments.

am tobechi,stacc, futo , d op. But am not a girl oo

lukzy500: Abeg ooooooooo there is sometin I don't undastand ooooo abt catholics ooooooo.wat is d meaning of Mother of God when God is a supernatural BEING that cannot be born or formed..... Abeg I need xplaination

JESUS IS GOD

MARY IS MOTHER OF JESUS

HENCE,MARY IS MOTHER OF GOD

megawax8: sowie to deviate,is d poster,dats tobechi,a futoite??....#jst askin

yeah, i am .....are u?

What quote, or motto greatly affect u? It could be a bible/koran verse, song lyric, saying, proverb etc. How has it influenced your action?

MINE IS, DONT CLEAN UR DIRTY CLOTH IN PUBLIC.
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it has made me not to solve issues publicly. If you offend me, i meet u privately. If u persist i call someone to talk to u . Share yours

Protestant, most of you say, i am covered with the blood of Jesus. You forget that Jesus has 100 percent Mary blood.

No child has a blood of his own. They take that of both parent.In jesus case, Mary had no spouce.hence, Jesus inherited her blood.hence mary and jesus has same blood group.

U see,u cant saperate Jesus from Mary.

Protestant,each time u cover urself wit JESUS BLOOD, U ACTUALY COVER URSELF WITH MARY BLOOD.

2sexy: Are u a perfect human?

NO BODY IS PERFECT , IN ANY ASPECT