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ednut1:
God doesnt need anyones money. The money most times are used to buy cars, jets houses by pastors. Some also use it to fuk high class babes and buy them cars and houses. Almost all mpg send their kids to study abroad . If God need your money he will send angel to come fetch it

I think u have issues with Pastors and be careful about how u go about it. Tithe is paid to the house of God.
If they calculate ur offerings in a year, I'm not sure it's up to 5,000naira and u keep saying they are using ur money to buy cars nd so.
Givers don't talk nd u saying things dis way shows u are not a giver.

emmanuelewumi:
I know tithers who are always in debt, one paid first fruit to his pastor and had the audacity to come to me for a loan when his three kids were sent away from school in February for non-payment of school fees after 5 weeks of resumption

Payment of tithe isn't the reason his kids were sent home from school. Even if he didn't pay the tithe, those kids will still be sent home.
Challenges of life is to everyone, yes he's facing a financial challenge now, but I can assure you if he keeps doing the right thing which payment of tithe is among others, he will come out of it.

LordviccoDaGuru:
I support, he is the most useless and Stuipd pastor in the history of the world

There must be a reason u used the word "useless nd stupid " together? Please based on what is he useless and stupid?
U must be very careful how u used words anyhow, don't kill urself by ur words. Death nd life are in ur tongue, learn to use it right. CAN gave them the directive on Saturday evening to go ahead with service on Sunday, so be careful.

otipoju:
I am sorry and I am a devoted Christian but Oyedepo talk is disappointing.

Only the living can praise God and God does not live inside the Church. He is everywhere and can be worshipped at anytime.

If there is a highly infectious disease ravaging the planet
that has no known cure,the only wise thing to do is to take reasonable steps to limit its spread.

Oyedepo has a responsibility to protect his sheep and today he failed in this regard. Stay at home is not a directive not to worship God is it?

Before u criticize someone just know that there are some information they had that u didn't hear. As at Yesternite, CAN gave them the detective to hold services today after consulting the authority about it. COZA said minister of Fct gave them the directive to go ahead with service today.

Gaddafiyusf:
This man is selfish. Only after his pocket

When u read a post, kindly read it very well. Over 80% of Nigerians live in poverty, where is the provisions made for people been sent home. Most homes live on daily income nd it's been like that for years. Shutting down schools nd malls is good, but do they put in consideration how these people will survive this period.

God is Supreme.
The problem of covid-19 is not by God, churches or pastors. The tendency of it been scientific errors is high, but why do people put it on churches nd pastors.
Solution will still come from Christians praying to God for intervention bcuz globally everyone is tired, things are going down fast.
God's word will surely come to pass, he said in the last days there shall be pestilence.

Preciousgirl:
I need scriptural references to this, thank you

I think a person can die before his time.
For example in the Bible ,Samson died before his time because he disobeyed God layed down principle of not to marry a certain set of people. He did nd paid with his life, but thank God he was forgiven before his death. I don't have scriptural reference now, but gonna get back to u on it.
Moses also died before his time because he disobeyed God. He has walked with God to an extent that certain things are not expected of him by God. He was angry nd instead of speaking to the Rock as instructed by God, he hit the Rock.
God said he'll not enter the promise land, but will see it. Scriptural reference coming soon.

Triton1996:
Primate Elijah Ayodele reacts to Lagos government restrictions on church activities

The leader of INRI Evangelical spiritual church, Primate Elijah Babatunde Ayodele has reacted to the restrictions of the Lagos state government on church activities over corona virus. The restrictions states that not more than 50 people should gather in a church or any kind of gathering.

Primate Elijah Ayodele in his reactions stated that it is important to follow the rules of the government because the government is taking measures to ensure that the virus doesn’t spread as much as it has but frowned at Pastors who have kept quiet over the issue.
He made it known that before now, so many pastors claim to be healers, they heal the sick, some claim to raise the dead, some claim to make the blind see, make the lame walk but everyone of them is scared because of Corona virus

‘’Whatever the government have done is very right but I am so disappointed in the pastors who say they heal all sort of sicknesses. They should have told the government to relax and get the healing power to heal people affected. Why are the pastors afraid, why are the pastors who can heal not coming out now to heal the people, the American pastors too, why can’t they go to where it is happening, why cant they ask God to give them the power to heal it. Pastors should stop lying, stop playing with people’s emotion on this. This is a very critical situation and the whole world has sinned against God, God knows about it and all we need to do is declare 3 days emergency prayer to battle it since everyone are afraid, even the world powerful countries, they can’t fight this war, it is time to submit our lives to God. This is just a tip of the iceberg.

I am disappointed in the men of God, we cant leave the gathering of God empty, we will abide by the rules but where are all the seers now? It means all the miracle we have been seeing is fake. I said it when this thing started that if care isn’t taken, it is will get to Africa and Nigeria but the government didn’t listen because we are not part of their ‘pastors’. May God help us, it is time to know that no pastor senior any pastor, God can send a small boy to you, all you need to do is to comply, if you refuse, we are going to see another terrible thing’’

He furthermore reinstated the fact that one solution which he knows and can vouch for is the water and anointing oil which God has asked him to prepare.

‘’I appreciate whatever the government has said but it is more than that, we need more prayers, let few people come to church, let them keep praying, we will regulate the crowd but the fact is it is more spiritual than medicinal. No doctor has any solution, one solution is know is the INRI Water and the anointing oil, its free of charge’’
It would be recalled that in March 2019, Primate Elijah Ayodele predicted the coming of a deadly virus in his annual book of prophecy titled Warning to All Nations (Pg 193)

In his words’There will be natural disaster in various region of the world, I forsee outbreak of diseases that will be an epidemic status, killings and attacked, world leaders will be trouble. Countries like china, America, UK will be looking for solution for such epidemic disaster’’

In October 2019, He stated during a live service in his church that God spoke to him that we should pray against a disease coming from China. God said we should pray for seven days to prevent the disease.
Also, God revealed the solution to him, which is the anointed water and oil which he says he is ready to give 10,000 of it to all affected countries.

The healing he was talking against, is it not what he's trying to do?
In life, never think u'll go up by pulling others down.
Its better he should face his calling. He's upcoming nd trying so desperately to pull others down. Heal ur congregations first.

afroxyz:
Did Jesus or humans establish Christianity? Also when Jesus was baptized the holy spirit descended in the form of a dive. So why didn't he speak in tongues at that time or thereafter?

Christianity came into existence after the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He became Lord over all. U know dat until u are saved, u are not a Christian. Rom 10 vs 9-10.
Jesus Christ was a Comforter when he walked on earth, nd the Holy Spirit is a Comforter now on earth. Speaking in tongues is d baptism of the Holy Ghost meant for Christian on earth. When Jesus Christ walked the earth, there was no Christian then.

DropsMic:
Stop deceiving yourself... Same Bible also said


10. Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning.
11. If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me.
12. So it is with you. Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church.
13. For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says.


Again... Stop deceiving yourself

I know u don't speak in tongues. What u don't have, u don't enjoy nd Wat u don't enjoy u criticize.
There's a difference between speaking in tongues in church as to pass message from God nd speaking in tongues as a Christian in ur personal walk with God.
The scriptures u quote is for speaking in tongues in church as to pass message across to the church from God.

mansakhalifa:
Let's say it as it is.

Nigerian Christians and several others like them all over the world don't know what the bible actually meant by "speaking in tongues".

Don't blame them. You see, many of them are simply daft and can't read and comprehend stuff.

Truth is, in that part of the bible, the disciples were speaking actual languages that could be interpreted by all standing around. The disciples were not actually babbling...

But these days, some clowns just babble on end and end and say that they are "speaking in tongues" when in reality, they are no different from toddlers learning how to speak.

And much as I am not a "minister", I can also tell you for free that the real reason that disciples spoke in tongues was not to "confuse the devil" as you raggamuffin preachers like to delude your members into believing.

The disciples speaking in tongues actually had a deeper meaning that only a discerning mind could or can understand or interprete properly.

Their speaking in tongues[tongues here, meaning different languages] actually meant that the message of the new faith or creed was for all men- if possible- regardless of tongue or language. It was to symbolize the fact that what they were teaching or propagating would transcend its immediate environment at that point in time and go on to enjoy global appeal.

The disciples didn't have the "devil" in mind at that point in time.

Y'all need to learn to interpret stuff properly and stop deceiving people. #NoTeachMeNonsense

If u read ur Bible very well, it was the Holy Ghost that gave the disciples utterance. In other words, he determined what they are to used it for. Then, Jesus Christ was crucified, they called all names nd was resurrected. What the Holy Spirit needed the disciples for was for boldness nd talked about Jesus as the Christ. Why the people understood them was for the Salvation of their soul and for them to know Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
Now, we Christian speak in tongues, the Bible says we speak to God.

wildlife9999:
there no vrs in the Bible that indicates Jesus speaks in tongues.

Jesus didn't speak in tongues because it's an evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost nd it's meant for Christian.
If u study ur Bible very well, u will know that there was no Christain until the death nd resurrection of Jesus Christ. Christianity started after the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He's the first begotten of the death.

DropsMic:
Believe this or not.. But if he speaks in tongues, he is a fake pastor.... Also if you speak in tongues, you are only deceiving yourself..

That's just the painful fact..
If you believe otherwise then you are lost..

In Nigeria People only speak in tongues for one reason only... So people see them as "highly spiritual"... Which here is all you need to scam gullible church goers.

If you think I'm lying monitor your pastors tongues. You go see pattern

I totally disagree with you!
If u have problem with Pastors, that's ur issues to solve.
The Bible says he that speaks in an unknown tongue speak not unto men, but God.
If u don't believe in speaking in tongues that doesn't mean u shud talk anyhow about it. I speak in tongues nd I know I communicate with God.
Since u hate it, u now start monitoring ur pastors tongue, u see that u don't know what u go to church to do.

DropsMic:
Neither am i a church goer... Since you are now grabbing on straws and making up stories to suit your narrative... Let's just end it here. The only thing i want you to take from this is that there are many ways to God. We are not in any special than those who worship other Gods.

It's better to end it here because Jesus Christ is the only way to God.

AntiChristian:
So how wealthy was he? The donkey you said he got was taken without prior permission of the owner!

The means of transportation was by animals. How many did he had?

Which is simpler to pray for a tree to produce or to curse it to wither?

Jesus was extremely poor while he walked the earth!

I'm sorry, I have to stop here bcuz ur username shows u are Antichristain.
I am a Christian and since u are anti my believe, we have to stop it here.

DropsMic:
Your Ignorance stinks to the heavens... Incase you don't know.. I'm also a Christian like you. Just not a myopic one who thinks that his religion is the best.

U see urself, it's not about calling urself a Christian! Since u don't believe Jesus Christ is the only Way, the only Truth and the only Life, u are not a Christian. U are just church goer.
U are not like me, Jesus said if u are ashamed of me and my words in this life, I shall be ashame of you before my Heavenly Father. Since u are ashamed of saying Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life,u are not a Christian, but a church goer!
Christianity is Christ in you, if there's no reflection of Christ in u, forget it.

danvon:
People have been asking so much about suicide recently

No it's not unforgivable Samson also committed suicide Judges 16:30 the only sin that is unforgivable is blaspheming against the holy spirit

"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."
Matthew:12:31

Not encouraging suicide but it's not an unforgivable sin as long you accept Jesus as your Savior

Suicide is unforgivable sin, if anyone commit suicide is straight to Hell! No Remedy about it.

BlueAngel444:
but God did not make Jesus wealthy on earth FULL STOP. the Devil tried though

Jesus Christ was wealthy on earth. I think u must know the difference between wealth nd riches. A wealthy man might not have money with him, but his needs will be met.
He solved problems that riches could not solve. When he fed 5,000 men, his disciples said even if the money is available where can we get to buy these quantities for the people. It's not always about having money, but about meeting needs.

BlueAngel444:
and what exactly did Jesus do, build houses, buy cars, make money and do business.

He prospered in obeying God, He prospered in spreading the word of God. He succeeded in freeing us, doing good, helping the poor. He prospered in touching lives.

If that's the value of prosperity then why doesn't the world celebrate those who work for the benefit of others but instead persecute and call them fools.

Those who loved money and material things hated Jesus because he rejected them, he never did anything for them to increase their pockets of money.

That is the problem, the world cannot show or tell you the true value of prosperity! True prosperity comes from God and He's the only one that can show /tell/evaluate prosperity.

DropsMic:
The fact that you are saying shows that you lack the spirit of comprehension... Next time you pray ask for that.

I don't need to pray mind u, Jesus Christ is my Lord nd Saviour !
U don't like me or my statement, look for ur saviour elsewhere.
JESUS is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE.
U that have in abundance the spirit of comprehension, look for ur way, ur truth and ur life elsewhere. We are not running the same race.

BlueAngel444:
Elijah was poor, Elisah was poor, etc etc even John the Baptist, Paul etc

Those who had either left it all or gave it all.

Jesus need was met by who? His bank account? Or him telling people to sow into His life and ministry? Tell me o, did he work?

Even his clothes were like those of simple men, fishermen? Where was his house?

Jesus lived daily on whatever he received from God and men, favor not forceful manipulation.

Jesus Christ needs was met by God either miraculously or sending people ur way to meet it.
Miraculously, he fed 5000 men with 5 loaves of bread nd 3 fishes. He didn't have the money to feed them, but he fed them through other means.
It's not about having money always, but it's all about meeting needs at the time required.

Ausrichie:
Rubbish. Jesus was poor as fvck. He didn't have a single dime to his name no landed properties and nothing people gave him things to use from food to means of transportation. A rich man must own properties but Jesus did not even own more than one pair of sandals.

Having ur needs met is all that matters! Properties is not the sense of prosperity, the Bible says he shall prosper in everything he does and Jesus Christ prospered in everything he did when he walked the earth.
Read ur Bible very well, there was always money in the purse, remember Judas was in charge of the charge.

DropsMic:
Stop misusing the word pained..

JESUS Is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE! If u know another person who's ur way, ur truth and ur life, stick to him.

AntiChristian:
Christians are all richer than Jesus, yet they claim God wants them to prosper.

Jesus was trekking all over places. He had no horse nor donkey. He even became hungry , cursing a fruitless fig tree because it was fruitless!

Yes, let them be like Jesus. As poor as he was!

Firstly, ask urself what was the means of transportation then? When he needed a donkey/ horse, he got free of charge without stress.
Secondly, Jesus was hungry bcuz it's natural for human being to be hungry.
Lastly, He cursed the fruitless fig tree using it to teached his disciples about the words of ur mouth and if u read the verses very well, the next day it was his disciples that noticed that the fig tree has dried up, not even Jesus!
Jesus was never poor when he walked the earth.

DropsMic:
You only believe this because the Christian missionaries colonized your state totally..

Jesus is just one of the numerous ways to God...

Why are u pained unnecessarily! He said JESUS is the Way, The Truth and the Life. If u don't believe it, stick to ur belief.

BlueAngel444:
lol you want them to be as poor as Jesus was

U need to read ur Bible again bcuz Jesus wasn't poor when he walked the earth. His needs was always met.

I think Goat is measured by the number of G.S u win. Federer defeated Djokovic last in 2012 in a G.S match, since then it's been Djokovic all the way. With the way things are going, Djokovic will soon catch with Federer. Just know that by May, Federer nd Nadal will be 20-20 in G.S,king of clay will surely catch up. Forget ATP tour, GOAT is only on the number of G.S u win.

Slimdada:
FRANK EDWARDS AIN'T A REAL GEE
As a real gee I can bodly tell you that cinach is the only truly born again gospel artist in Africa
She has really impacted lives through her soul winning gospel tracks and her life is really worth emulating
Not that short ugly boy claiming frank rich boy who got all he is today on a platter of Gold pastor Chris gave that dude love world studio with heavy equipments to record for free yet this dude hasn't in any way helped talented upcoming gospel artist in various churches he goes for show. That dude is self centered
Shout out to cinach .Joy will always be part of your home....

You don't really know Frank Edwards!
He has his own studio nd record label. He's featured more than enough artistes in his songs over the years. The guy is a big time follower nd didn't get things on the platter of gold like u just said. Frank is a big time giver, at least I've witnessed that severally most places he visited. That he didn't help doesn't mean he's a bad person, don't just have in mind for no just reason and he's a Christian.

Adeling:
That guy in green top seems to be always around pastor Chris. my observation tho

He's deputy / vice president. Anyhow u call it, 2nd man in charge.

toluene1234:
I disagree with you. If you never experienced it then don't think its not possible. I am a living testimony, I know many people whom God has chosen for them their partners.
Sorry it's a fact. God help us in Jesus name.

I totally disagree with you on this. God chooses, but it's left for the person to accept. God doesn't enforce anything on u, He gives u d right to choose. I've seen situations also where God chose for a guy, but d lady said no.
Personally, this is the summary. God told Joshua I lied before u life nd death, choose life so u may live, but He never enforced it on him.
God shows us d way nd let us make our choice.

Be Quiet - Ty Bello, Sinach nd George. Sweet Spirit of God - Frank Edwards ft Nicole C. Mullen