₦airaland Forum

creamyzone:
Please educate him. This tonychristopher guy is just a clown. I don't know who told him herbert macaulay is from seirra leone. We all know those are names from the slave trade era. Yorubas up till now bare names like savage, dacosta, williams, crowther, wellington, cole, johnson, thomas, craig etc.

I don't know where "tonychristopher" got the logic that the mother named him bukola. Its common knowledge that fathers name their kids in yoruba land and most tribes in Nigeria. So the man called olushola that he refers to as fulani also named his three other kids gbemisola, olaolu and bola. Both Olushola and Saraki are yoruba names. Kwara is just zoned to the north central, it is made up of over 50% yorubas and other tribes like baruten, tapa, fulani etc.

Having said that please let us drop this tribal issue. Bukola saraki is a Nigerian and qualified to be senate president so also his deputy ekeweremadu from the south east. APC leaders should bring than their ego and support them so we can all enjoy the dividends of democracy. Otherwise buhari's government may fail... God bless Nigeria

These Yoruba people una no dey tire...saraki talk say him na Fulani ...wetin u come dey vex for the matter ...go tell am na

Wetin be this seff..a man talk say he no be Yoruba na by force


Nawa for people seff

opendo21:
I am of the believe that most of the prophets from Noah to Moses were blacks. But because it was in pre-historic times, the whites appear to have "bleached" the stories to give the feeling that they were whites. Most of the Jews and Christians of those days are not who they are today. You can also note that most of the what happened in the Old Testament happened in Africa, Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia. E.g Queen of Sheba story (abi you wan tell me say Solomon na white man) the flood e.t.c. So yes there are many Black prophets if not more than whites sef

Give us proof

Rilwayne001:
But why? have you read the bible thoroughly?

Why...do we have a black prophet in bible

Rilwayne001:
Another christian gradually turning agnostic.

Cc: parisbookadict, plainbibletruth.

Exactly my bro

boman2014:
st paul was a black man

Are u sure ...price it

I have been wondering how African has been treated and brainwashed but I need answers Africans are either Christian or muslim and one thing is these are abrahamic religion from middle East and they are not black so how come

How did the white man get the black man to believe a :-white man was going to fly down from the sky to save him and take him to heaven? That the Creator himself is white, with a white son, white mother, white prophets etc?

What jazz did the whites use on us?

In all our powerful, ancient societies - Egypt, Nubia, Benin, Oyo, Ghana, Ashanti, the igbo republican states, Kanem, Zulu, Shona etc, God and his deities were always portrayed as black. Some of those kingdoms predated European states and christianity by thousands of years, and clearly got on just fine under the notion of a black God. What happened? How come most of us today see white entities in our mind's eye when we envision the Supreme Being and/or those associated with him?

What's happened to us?

macof:
If you wanna know about Oduduwa pleas go through the appropriate chanel - Initiation

So oduduwa is not a cult ....this is another dimension

NewNigeriaMind:
You just made a fool of yourself, the Herbert Macaulay example is actually a pointer that you are not a serious person. Your argument holds no water.

Herbert Macaulay himself claims he is from Ogun state and even stated where he was picked from in Ogun state. You disregarded who Herbert said he is but you accept who you claim Saraki said he is, can you see the stupidity in your logic.

secondly, you claim Saraki is a Fulani, until we pointed it to you that is is actually a Yoruba name. In your new response you shifted ground that the name was adopted to control the people, so since you know this why did you lie the name saraki is Fulani name when it is not.

Thirdly you said his mother gave him the name Bukola, I asked you to please educate us who gave his father Olusola, no answer.

Lastly, saraki said he came from Mali, I wish to also point it out to you that there is part of Yoruba history that claim Yorubas came from Mali, I don't see how what saraki claim is different from this account.

All I see here is that you are a bigot and you will believe only the part of the story that suits your bigoted mind.

shalom.

Dude go and rest

Type creoles and Macaulay ..those are googled maybe tomorrow you tell me oba of Lagos doesn't have benin ancestry

I am done

This is the mess that the sophisticated ones put us ...no wonder wise ones always come from east

Cluessness is under statement ..APC are just checking confusion and stupidity daily

NewNigeriaMind:
so who is the Yoruba person that gave his father Olusola

Secondly, Saraki is actually a Yoruba name not a Fulani name.

Thirdly, the man is Fulani-Yoruba, that's just the Ilorin thing from time memorial and I don't see why there should be an argument about this.

To me the guy is Yoruba-Fulani and I guess he uses both heritage when it suits him.

Jeeeeeez are u still on this ..they said that they origin is from MALI and why do you have problem with that just like saying Hubert Macaulay is a Yoruba man were as we all know he is Sierra Leone or saying abacha is a Nigeria

Do you know I can adapt any name ....Fulani do adapt name and use it to dominate their subjects

Do you know the first name of emir of ilorin

Pls respect saraki position on their origin pls that is the wise thing to do and stop asking me questions

I will believe them rather than you ...I am sorry to disappoint you

lygn19:
My dream for now, is to if possible reduce d number of igbo men/easterners in the West.
Second mk sure that when they reduce they won't find another region to relocate to but the Eastern region...
Then from der we can discuss abt d useful ventures... ppl like u are enemies of Igbo land. and I wud prefer to term u an enemy of progress.

Have you ever thought how selfish you sound ...do you know that we have Yoruba in east

What is it with this your level of hate .....anyway talk is cheap .. Ranting is subsidized


Try been at peace with people ...this will be the last time I will talk or quote you . Mark this

ruffDiamond:
EXACTLY!ABSOLUTELY CORRECT !don't mind d mumu Ilorin man he thinks he's dealing wit slowpoke like him! those Ilorin people are very terrible mostly untrustworthy just like saraku

It's disturbing that a man that is a doctor very educated said in a clear terms that he is a fulani from MALI that is his origin though with a Yoruba mother that gave him the name bukola but his surname is sariki ...and that is Fulani name .

Why should I not believe him that he is a fulani as he said and believe some revisionist

Maybe I am Christopher I am now English

Luukasz:
Point of Correction Abubakar Bukola Saraki is a Yoruba Man of ilorin Just like the Yorubas of Benin...ilorin was formerly under the Yoruba Empire before the Fulanis took over & as for Benin,Benin is still under the Yorubas.If you dont know,BENIN is one of the SONS of ODUDUWA.
Dont just open your mouth & talk,talk with Facts.

So benin are Yoruba. ...that is a new one ..pls educate us how the benin Metamorphed and evolved to the almighty Yoruba

As of saraki I rest my case...I will believe what the man said about himself and his Fulani origin rather than you ..so pls forget this saraki issue

Gist us about how benin are now Yoruba ..we are waiting

APC is screwed for real

O shitt

lygn19:
Igbos go back to ur Land... I don't know which part of d GO dat u don't get...

It's a bad workman that querells with his tools ...if I do a research it will be clear that you are one osun dude that claims lagosian

Igbo will not go back they will choke you till you help them actualize Biafra till them live with them

There seems to be nothing you can do about it rather than rant online

What is wrong with you .get a life ..stop wasting

lygn19:
wherever u re from I don't know, but if u re igbo... ur stubbornness wud lead to ur undoing.

We are not quarrelling stop hurting ...its a simple world ..nobody is stopping you from achieving your Nigerian dream if you ever had any ...but transfer this hate energy to useful venture

It helps

creamyzone:
My brother saraki is a full yoruba man. His father and mother are both yoruba's and gave all their four kids yoruba names. Bukola, gbemisola, laolu and bola. The mum is a christian and MFM member that's why they don't bare muslim names. Check gbemi's facebook page you will see like for MFM on her profile.

North central is just a Geo political zone created by babangida and that doesn't mean everybody from there are fulanis. Kwara state is made up over 50% yorubas just like there are yorubas in kogi state(senator smart adeyemi that dino maleye defeated is from kogi state and a full yoruba man). Just like there are igbos is part of delta and rivers state(south-south). Just like there are yorubas in some parts of edo state(south-south).


So my brother bukola saraki is a full yoruba man from the North central.
This is one of the reason why the APC leaders didn't want him because a yoruba man is already the Vice president. I think we should all accept him as the new senate president because he will lead without religious sentiments having a christian mother and wife. He is also far better than lawan the APC annointed candidate. Toyin saraki his wife is also a successful lawyer from a royal family and daugther of renowned billionaire otunba and erelu ojuolape ojora of the famour ojora family in lagos. I also like the fact that he chose an ibo man as his deputy. This shows that he is also not tribalistic and want to ensure unity and equity in the senate.

Tinubu and the bunch of APC leaders should take a chill pill and accept the situation for peace to reign. They only chose lawan because they can't control saraki. Nigeria will not divide and this current dispensation will bring prosperity for our great nation in jesus name(amen)...

Bros this is too long

SARAKI SAID IN A CLEAR TERMS THAT HE IS A FULANI THAT HIA FAMILY ORIGINATED FROM MALI

do you want me not to believe what an able bodied mansaid and agree with you...i Am just curicurious

Saraki said that himself and I will believe that maybe you tell me that rotimi amaechi is Yoruba also

macof:
But you igbo don't have history

Oh Mr history

Is it the oduduwa sky fall or is it the benin man that is a oduduwa or is it the wandering man named oduduwa which type of history are we talking about

I will prefer not to have history that make a jest of myself

Now which history again

lygn19:
go and build ur land and stop wasting ur time preaching...

This is exactly what we are talking about ...loser

Adegbodolu1:
Igbo moder fuckers go and build your land and have your pickin in Igboland like every tribe does.

Slowly slowly we are vexing. The vexatiousness has never been this palpable. It is a sign of the beginning of something......the hostility has started. Nobody invited you and your papa to our land. Get lost and go tell your story,,,,, in your region. Your girls can stay sha .......you have no land to offer your women and their children so they can stay in Yoruba land and have our babies

Igbo fools.

Jeez what is wrong with people ...mind you nobody put shackle on anybody from making it in life

Go back to the post ...the word compete is there ...this is negative energy pls convert it to positive energy

It will be helpful to you and Nigeria

juicee1:
am not saying we will kill, am just pointing out, just as dr ariyo did, that that might be the result of your unlawfulness.

Are you changing your terms now

Pls sir can I know the lawlessness pls

Enumerate it so that other " non indigenous group" will understand these laws and abide by it


Thank you

Mgbadike80:
then how come fashola deported many of them? Lagos is no a mans land. all the government is after is tax and revenue. they don't care a bit about the tribalists shouting "our region". i gain more from Lagos than most yorubas.

That's is it

juicee1:
So when the law says must, they won't obey it? Isn't that lawlessness? So you mean they are lawless? Oh, they should be begged to abide instead of using a must. Mtchew
if we have challenge with strangers, we would have killed you all like the hausas do

buddies with a fence inbetween.

and you too

Stop pls

The use of kill and we .. Pls the last time I checked there are still good men left so take your hate somewhere pls

juicee1:
ok, let's see below


And such a person wants to live in a sane society? Boot he and his lawlessness out


But loves to abuse and insult his hosts.


He calls due punishment injustice as can be seen from the way they are reacting to the bombing of pirates in calabar.


But Wants to break up the nigerian brotherhood. Wants biafra and still wants nigeria.
everyone does that



How come they hate yorubas and hausas so much?

Pls stop sugarcoating wickedness.

Igbo hates to be dicted to ...u can have a dialogue with them but don't use the term must ..they hate it they are Republican

They are friendly and live neighbours ...I think you have a challenge with strangers apart from igbo. I think you should change the mindset

It's a small world ..even if igbo have their Biafra that doesn't stop both ethnic group from been buddies

You have to change your orientation

Life is too short for this

juicee1:
calling anambra home for all doesn't make anambra home to the hausas and yorubas you hate so much. If anambra was lagos, we would all have been pushed out by you guys. If you know what lagos looked like when it was capital compared to its recent look, you won't claim oil money developed it. The whole lagos rottened but fashola restored it. Are you trying to tell me all the projects built by fashola are due to niger delta resources? Do you know what lagos rakes as IGR?
don't forget that cocoa and groundnut money also built nigeria


stop being silly. Who are you to tell a yoruba man which village to claim? We are all nigerians but there are boundaries. He can't go and claim home in another region but can do so in yoruba land so long he's yoruba. @bold. What silly right other than to live and trade? Can you be in governance and say much? Can you control the land? No, cos such can't be tolerated of a stranger in anambra, the so-called home for all.

wrong! They were the first and indigenous people of lagos and are yorubas. Don't distort history
and so what?

so you mean the igbos would have also had lagos if not for the war? So yorubas were never
the owners of the land before the war? Na wah for omo ibo o.

were you expecting the decree to favour you in another man's land?

so ghana now has right to lagos? Na wah o
no one hates you. Stop trying to steal land belonging to others.

you call land grabbing and insult others competition?

dr ariyo was honoured cos he voiced out against landgrabbers. Nnamdi kanu. Is venting anger cos he's an oil thief

To me it boils down to one thing..Blackman propensity to violence and pull him down syndrome nobody is pulling you down. They are simply preventing you from stealing their ancestral wealth. Had It been they. Are doing sucj to you in your land, fine.


Let us not be jealous of people success let us understudy and compete with them. Yoruba should learn how to accept others the way they are and not expecting others to act like them and igbo with their south south cousins should learn how to let go and not offend the sensibilities of others with their culture ..Yoruba are cultural and averse to changes so they should learn that also and don't use civil war to judge others .I have seen good people from yoruba ijaw edo etc so its pointless to hate @bold. So you mean we are jealous of the landgrabbers? We should accept their landgrabbing technics?

We should compete and think our of box instead of making ourselves a laughing stock globally go back to biafra, then we can compete

Take time re read and see how bitter you have turned out to be. May lord have mercy

Baawaa:
My brother,Yorubas don't have problem with any tribe,look at what happened in 2011.The Yoruba voted for Jonathan,then Jonathan don't have money to waste on campaigns but he won the election without hassle.
Let us be sincere with our self,your people normally abuse privilege given to them,by going beyond their boundaries.

Noted bro ...but can you explain so that they can know how they abuse privilege but try to know the psychology of an igbo man bro

He hates to be dictated to
He hates to be threatened
He hates injustice
He appreciates brotherhood
He makes any person his friend

He might be stubborn and aggressive but he is forgiving easily

huptin:
OP, its a pity your post smacks of falsehood and lies. As regards accomodation you cannot compare Lagos and Anambra. You said Anambra is home to all, how come i was attacked at Onitsha bridge head a few years ago, just becos i am ndi Yoruba? How many non Igbos are in that your home for all compared to Lagos?
You did not see anything wrong with Achebe's rants about Yorubas in his books? Arthur Eze's insults? Nnamdi Kalu's incessant incitement for all Yorubas to be killed? Asking Ibos to boycott all Yoruba churches etc.

But you keep talking about the Oba and Ariyo. So how many Ibos have been attacked in Lagos or any where in the south west since then? Your assertion that Lagos is built with Oil money is terribly false, as at 1979 when Lagos was already a big city oil was contributing less than 30% of total government revenue, even now Laglos generates more than 70% of government's non oil revenue. Lagos generates far more revenue to government than it receives, so how can you say Lagos was developed by oil money?
Lagos has ceased to be a federal capital since 1991, how come you people have not gone to Abuja en masse to claim the place as no mans land?

I have also been attacked ...my phone was stolen along ikeja along in my car will I term all Yoruba criminal ..hell no . I have some good folks that are Yoruba and I have been told by Yoruba landlord that they don't rent to igbo does it mean all Yoruba are igbo haters ..oh hell no...we have to know that we just can't generalize it ain't working and good
Do you want me to believe that oil money was never a used to build at least third mainland bridge and dredge tin can

DankemzI:
My brother, there's nothing like one Nigeria.
That's what GEJ counted on thereby siting all his projects in The North to the detriment of his brothers down South.
Had it been he damned the consequences, gave us 2nd Niger bridge, gave us Ibaka deep sea port .
All our people would have come back home, the Yoruba people knows this, that's why they made sure Ibaka is not born!
How about the refinery in Kaduna? Are there refining ground nut?
Ok shebi na nuclear plant na Akwa Ibom surepass.
Until all this nonsense stops, then we can truly say one Nigeria

Your right I think we have to find a balance

Baawaa:
The writer,you are not guilty, it is simply because the Yorubas are too hospitality and friendly.If Yorubas have given the kind of treatment the hausas gives the Igbos from the genesis,you will not be saying this trash

Yorubas are exposed and educated so it will be wrong and dehumanizing to expect them to act like Hausa ...that are illiterates . so are Hausa better off with the economy and state..don't you see how north is ?is that what you wish for Yoruba

Me I wish the whole southern region of Nigeria prosper

oluspencer:
We are not doing the Goodluck "AZIKWE" of 2011 we are talking of the Bukola who's a brother to Gbemisola. Will are talking about the son of Olusola who happen to be the husband of Toyin.

Is saraki which is the surname a Yoruba word

A man said he is Fulani and your here disputing that ..there should be dignity left in you

EasternPride:
Op, name is Nnamdi Kalu.

And then this is top-notch points.

I with shift and as usual the frustrated beings will come and vent their frustrations on you.

Be on guard, we will fire anybody that puts head full of hate here.

This is not a tribal bashing just made my point from objective and historical point of view

Thanks anyway ...lol

Idiataqueen:
Yeah why d hatered is only in Nigeria dat i know dat nigerians can deport themselves without any reason,when d igbo now started crying dat they want biarafia u said they should shutup why deporting Nigerians in Nigeria if u still want them just my own opinion thou.

You are correct and that act was wrong but fashola begged and told ibo he is sorry

Remember Yoruba and Hausa were also deported