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CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 9:46am On Jun 05, 2015
OdenigboAroli:
Asaba has a different dialect,though intelligible to some Anambra towns. Obosi and Onicha speaks what I call the 'Ideocha' dialect,which is what a kid from Anambra who grew up in Onicha speaks.
What then do they speak in asaba environs ..maybe enuani
TravelRe: Asaba And Warri: The Two Capitals Of Delta State by tonychristopher: 8:00am On Jun 05, 2015
millionaireman:
If you know how much I love this competition between Asaba and Warri cities in Delta state.....
It makes for development of larger portions of the state.

In one state in the southeast, it's like a taboo for state capital people if government tries to site any meaningful development infrastructure in any location outside the state capital;

even the towns and zone that give oil producing name to the state remain rural.

All five universities and polytrchnics in Imo state are located around the state capital. Any attempt to relocate even one to another area is fiercely resisted by people of the state capItal.

There is a formula unique to only Imo state: two cities being develprd in one Owerri town : Old Owerri and New Owerri Capital Cities - they are the only places that have modern development infrastructures in the entire Imo state.

Well done Deltans. Love your competitive and balancing spirit.
I am not from imo but u lied
What about orlu and school of medical..is orlu not a city
What of oguta been developed as tourist
Is okigwe not a city
TravelRe: Asaba And Warri: The Two Capitals Of Delta State by tonychristopher: 7:56am On Jun 05, 2015
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mikigen:
Warri will always be the capital of delta state asaba is the capital of ANIOMA or de

lta igbos
Warri can't be because of ownership riddle tussle there ..so asaba is best
PoliticsRe: Another ‘ojukwu’ Will Go To War If You Touch Ihejirika – Ohanaeze Warns by tonychristopher: 7:45am On Jun 05, 2015
Masterclass32:
Amnesty International ... I used to think this organisation was genuine and sincere.
They are bunch of white supremacist and no reasonable fellow takes em serious
PoliticsRe: Another ‘ojukwu’ Will Go To War If You Touch Ihejirika – Ohanaeze Warns by tonychristopher: 7:43am On Jun 05, 2015
midolian:
Welcome to Nigeria, where a particular group of pple feel they are above the law. What annoys me most is how these pple threaten Nigeria with "war" on every damn issue..Since they saw the signs that their brother was going to lose the elections, I observe they've been aggressive.

Now they want to go to war like Ojukwu, forgetting they ll also fail in waR like ojukwu (no offense my igbo friends on this forum). Buh what is difficult in doing things like this peacefully?
Why must it be 'war' 'war' 'war' threat all the time? Why? As if say na so e easy.SMH(I only pity the innocent ones)

I can bet my ballz that if Ihejirika and others are found guilty of these allegations, they ll be "touched" and nothing but the usual chest-beating will happen. undecided undecided undecided
talk is cheap

But why do we take these whites serious ..Nawa for Nigeria

Make amnesty tell us the atrocities 9th buhari in civil war

They can't do nothing ..Bleep amnesty

They should tell that to Hitler
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 11:40pm On Jun 04, 2015
Radoillo:
Having never been on the ground, I can only speak based off what I have read. And I have never read anywhere that Orogun is Isoko. All sources say they are Urhobo. However, they are very close to Isoko communities like Emevor, and there are traces of Isoko linguistic influence in their tongue. I think that is what you mean when you say they speak with an 'Isoko intonation'. Where is your wife from? Is it Abbi, Amai or Umuebu?
That's it ..obiaruku
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 11:39pm On Jun 04, 2015
soonest:
"Usu" grin
Usu a bughi anu elu, o bughi anu ala
Onye bu usu

Pls behave yourself young woman ..we do not call names here
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 9:43pm On Jun 04, 2015
Radoillo:
Yes, I just realised that. Copying links with this phone appears to be just impossible. grin

Anyway, the paper title is 'Functions and Consequences of Bilingualism in Orogun Kingdom of Urhobo land, Delta State, Nigeria' by James E. Odivwri.

Type in 'Orogun Bilingualism' in Google, and I guarantee you the pdf is the first thing that comes up.

Tonychristopher, the paper was written by a university academic from Delta Central or Delta South (by the sound of his name), and he says clearly that the Orogun are bilingual. I think I want to believe him.

As to how to classify Orogun, I'll say since they now gravitate towards the Urhobo side of their heritage, and seem to present themselves to the world as such, speaking the Urhobo language and all, they are Urhobo people.
But they still speak igbo with isoko intonation not urhobo...they are the next town after my wife own.
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 9:27pm On Jun 04, 2015
Radoillo:
Actually Orogun language isn't Yoruba. The Orogun people are bilingual, speaking Urhobo and their own variant of Ukwuani, which they call the Orogun language. This Orogun language is losing ground to Urhobo, however. Their traditional head still goes by the title of 'Okpara-Uku'.

You might want to check out the article on the link below:


www​.aijssnet.com/journals/.../12.pdf
Pardon me ......i was thinking ukwu nzu

Orogun speak mixture of isoko with igbo in same dialect ..they ain't bilingual but speak a mixture of both languages

Do you classify them as what now
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 9:01pm On Jun 04, 2015
bigfrancis21:
From what I have gleamed from internet sources, Ukwu Nzu and Illah people are bilingual in Nigerian languages in that they speak aniocha Igbo and their ancestral language (Olukumi and Igala).

I wouldn't classify Ekpeye (akpa ohia) as an Igbo dialect. It is quite different from general Igbo dialects to be classified as an Igbo dialect, though it has quite a substantial number of Igbo words and some Ekpeye people bear Igbo names. I would say it is an Igboid language.

It is interesting to learn about the Olorogun people. Could you expand more on the Olorogun language?
just dying Yoruba language spoken by old folks
Jokes EtcRe: This Is When A Phd Holder In Making EBA Prepares A Meal [picture] by tonychristopher: 8:14pm On Jun 04, 2015
Creativity


corkpikin:
angry
Jokes EtcRe: This Is When A Phd Holder In Making EBA Prepares A Meal [picture] by tonychristopher: 8:12pm On Jun 04, 2015
Idrismusty97:
Reminds me of this pic cheesy.
lol

i am impressed
FamilyRe: Is It Proper For A Wife To Wear A 'g-string'? Please Help by tonychristopher: 6:28pm On Jun 04, 2015
NO IT IS PROPER FOR A WIFE NOT TO WEAR PANTIES ATALL


AT AL AT ALL NA HIM BAD PASS

U DEY ASK YEYE QUESTION...BUT IF UR WIFE GET SEED IN YANSH MAKE SHE WEAR PETERY
Growingboi:
I love my wife and I always give her freedom to do whatever that will give her joy. But some days ago, she came home with a G-STRING ladies underwear saying it good for her HEALTH. Though I have not concluded whether she should wear it or not cox i believe it is unholy and improper for a married woman.

Please house, should i grant such request?
PoliticsRe: The Politics Of Ika And Ndigbo : Unearthing Facts by tonychristopher: 6:24pm On Jun 04, 2015
HOW CAN U SAY ITSHEKIRI SPEAK UNADULTERATED YORUBA...MEN I TIRE..DO YOU KNOW GINUWA

ITSHEKIRI AND UTSEN SPEAKS BENIN MIXED WITH YORUBA...GO AND CALL UTSEN MAN YORUBA AND SEE SLAP ON YOUR FACE

Kagawa10:
What is this one sayin?
Take the itshekiri for example, they speak adulterated yoruba but have their ancestry with the binis! So get it into your skull that ethnicity isn't determined by language but by ancestry!
Even then, the Ikas and Ukwuanis wants their own identity, just like the Itshekiris had theirs! Today, the Itshekiris are neither Binis eventhough they have ancenstry with them nor Yorubas eventhough they speak yorubid language!
The Ikas and Ukwuanis have ancenstry with the binis but speak igboid language. However, they want to have their identity/tribes and you ibos should respect it, just like the yorubas respect the Itshekiris!
Why can't you ibos get it for once? Does someone have to spoonfeed you?
CultureRe: Igbo Kwenu! Kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/lady by tonychristopher: 6:20pm On Jun 04, 2015
ukwu ndi a di sharp

charly boy digo di shaRP

peppyluv02:
Ihe nka,di kwa egwu.
CultureRe: The Ika People{igbanke}. by tonychristopher: 6:14pm On Jun 04, 2015
why asking ..people keep asking this question? Ngwa man


ChinenyeN:
Tonychristopher, is this you?
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 5:56pm On Jun 04, 2015
i think we have few villages that dont kill eke

Radoillo:
98% sounds too high to me oh.
PoliticsRe: The Politics Of Ika And Ndigbo : Unearthing Facts by tonychristopher: 10:20am On Jun 04, 2015
superb

PabloAfricanus:
You are actually mixing up two different things.
Or maybe you're confused as to the meaning of the word "ancestry".

The above does not apply in the case of Ukwuanis and Ikas...in my opinion.
The Itshekiri have a unique Ijebu dialect intelligible to some extent to Ijebu and Oyo speakers.
The Itshekiris merely adopted a Bini prince Ginuwa as their monarch.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/150473-the-itsekiris-rich-history-and-their-bond-with-the-yoruba-by-eric-teniola.html
He was neither the progenitor nor founder of the Itshekiri clan/kingdom.
I leave it to you to look up that part of their history.
Ancestry in this case means that the Itshekiris migrated from Bini or was founded by Bini people which is clearly not the case.
No vassal or direct offshoot of the ancient Bini empire calls their king "Olu" or speaks an Ilaje dialect.

It is well known that Bini hegemony spread far and wide to the extent that their princes were adopted/installed as monarchs
by other groups who held them in awe. A case in point is the Eleko of Eko stool currently occupied by the now famous Oba Akiolu.
The family line came directly from Esikpa or (Yorubanized to Asipa) a Bini prince adopted by the Awori indigenes.
All occupants of that stool...the Kosokos, Akitoyes,Dosumus etc...all were under Bini suzerainty and paid tribute to Bini.
The indigenes were Awori who came from Ife. The spoken language was Yoruba, the tradition and customs was Yoruba till date.
Only the stool and the installation of the occupant was was controlled from Bini.

The Ikas and Ukwuanis on the other hand can lay no claim to such an "ancestry". That will be a historical fallacy.
Your spoken language from time immemorial has always been Igbo, your Obis, Ezes, Ikengas, Okpala Ukus, ote ofes,Diokpas and
all the paraphernalia of your traditions clearly indicate an Igbo group. That's not difficult to verify.
Which Bini prince did you lots adopt? Which Bini language were you speaking before the Igbos supplanted your ancient Bini tongue?
Which Bini man or prince "migrated" from Bini to found Ika and Ukwuani...only to abandon your "superior" culture and tradition for "inferior"
Igbo traditions? Atleast thats how you present it.

To the best of my knowledge the SE Igbos are only reminding you what is on ground and what has been.
You are the ones claiming and disclaiming origins.
When did Igbos advertise for anyone to start speaking Igbo?
Or maybe your great-great-great-grand fathers used to travel to Igbo land to learn the language?
Or maybe you dont want to tell us the shameful hidden history of how the Igbos chased away your Bini forbears and
forced you to start speaking Igbo? huh?
It gets ridiculous.
That some settlers came from Bini, Igalla and environs cannot be disputed.
That Bini traditions and customs were "adopted" by the Ikas and Ukwuanis can also not be disputed.
But dont present the fallacy of "zero Igbo" presence in Ukwuani or Ika land.
Your Igboness is visible from a thousand miles. The majority of the hawkers in the Lagos traffic I'm reliably informed are Okrika and Anioma
boys...you need to listen to them talk to identify the Igbo dialect.
I have asked even my friends from Agbor why they bear Igbo names and all that.
None of them could give me any meaningful response pertaining to their reported non-Igboness.
Why create the confusion then?
Why not stick to your Bini ancestry?
Who introduced anything Igbo into your midst...since you detest them so much?
Why not start now and end the confusion? Leave anything Igbo alone and do your thing, that way no one will confuse you for Igbos.
As for that Ekadolor line...come up with something better.
PoliticsRe: The Politics Of Ika And Ndigbo : Unearthing Facts by tonychristopher: 9:45am On Jun 04, 2015
xmich:
So what exactly are you trying to sayhuh "we are not Igbo" I think you are high on kaikai soaked weed.
here kaikai soaked weed is called monkey tail or odu enwe lol
PoliticsRe: The Politics Of Ika And Ndigbo : Unearthing Facts by tonychristopher: 9:44am On Jun 04, 2015
your a true son of ur father...you cant allow these benin migrants to soil your name..i have never seen where migrants define identity for true born


xmich:
For all I know "i am a full blooded Igbo" ,and rep Ika.
PoliticsRe: The Politics Of Ika And Ndigbo : Unearthing Facts by tonychristopher: 9:41am On Jun 04, 2015
then you have to correct him pls..one bad apple has the ability of spoiling the whole bunch
xmich:
As far as am concern is op is not talking on our behalf
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 9:36am On Jun 04, 2015
BUT I THINK IT IS A CASE OF GRAVITATIONAL FORCE...IKA AND BONNY ARE ADOPTING CENTRAL IGBO SO AS TO COMMUNICATE WITH 40 MILLION IGBO SEAMLESS THAN COMMUNICATING WITH FEW MILLION BENINS..I THINK IT IS A NATURAL PROGRESSION


BUT WHAT IS YOUR TAKE IN OWERRI MIGRATION...HOW TRUE IS THAT ANTHROPOLOGICALLY AND SOCIOLOGICALLY SPEAKING

NOW PLACES LIKE UKWU NZU AND ILLAH WHERE WOULD YOU CLASSIFY THEIR IGBO LECTS AND HAVE YOU FORGOTEN THE OROGUN THAT SOEAKS A MIXTURE OF IGBO AND ISOKO..HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT..NOW WHAT OF BONNY AND OPOBO THAT HAVE IGBO WITH IJO DIALECTS



THERE SHOULD BE A CLEAR CUT AS OF EKPEYE I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THEM


bigfrancis21:
True, Igbo language is evolving, some old words are being dropped, and newer words are replacing them, as it is characteristic of any living language. A dead language is one whose vocabulary remains constant from time to time ie words do not change from century to century. For example, Latin is a dead language. Having no native speakers, except being kept 'alive' by the Catholic church for usage in its liturgy, has ensured that the words and vocabulary of Latin have remained constant since its last native speaker died.

As for region that speaks unevolved Igbo, I would say most villages speak their respective Igbo dialects undiluted for the most part, without borrowed English words here and there as common with Igbo city dwellers or educated Igbos when speaking.

I can say that Ika Igbo has experienced the most substantial evolution in its lect of all Igbo dialects. Ika Igbo, as of about 100 years ago, had adopted many bini words in its dialect but today has seen itself adopting more and more Igbo equivalents in their replacement. Ika Igbo dialect is moving in trend with some other Igbo dialects that are becoming more and more centralized. It is said that older Ika speakers speak Ika with certain bini words which the younger generation does not.
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 9:31am On Jun 04, 2015
WE SEE IT AS NNA OCHIE BUT I THINK 98% OF ANAMBRA VILLAGES DONT KILL EKE AND ORSU PART OF IMO


oboy3:
lol....we dont ooooo,i asked my mum why,she simply
said becos it is our nwadiani ,,,,,lol
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 9:28am On Jun 04, 2015
UDO


Phut:
A di'm nma. Yinwa Kwanu?
CultureRe: Igbo Kwenu! Kwezuo Nu! Join Us If You're Proud To Be An Igbo Guy/lady by tonychristopher: 7:12pm On Jun 03, 2015
enenebe ukwu..peppyluv okeipku nda ije

PoliticsRe: Corper Converts To Islam As Vowed If Buhari Is President (Pictures) by tonychristopher: 7:07pm On Jun 03, 2015
This mbaitolu people, i know them and their antics..they love ripping muslim with their i wanna be muslim get paid and they leave...its the smae place with either otokoto or iwuanyanwu then obi



this is not true conversion but a bet lost
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 7:05pm On Jun 03, 2015
lol

ndi ide nna

we still dont kill eke..do u?


oboy3:
am from idemili south ,,i have lived with many people frm there
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 6:25pm On Jun 03, 2015
I never knew you have encountered that dialect but it is going...missed my grandma and her funny way of speaking igbo like singing song


are you from where nna


oboy3:
yes,i havent seen any younger person speaking that way,only people in their 40s and 50s ftom there that speak that wAy ,its sad really
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 5:36pm On Jun 03, 2015
do u have dilacects in bayelsa and is it true that goodluck aint ijaw
MrBully:
Ijaw Bayelsa, Kalabari
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 5:34pm On Jun 03, 2015
[quote author=Radoillo post=34389760]Hmm. Interesting.

Well, I wouldn't want to speak too firmly about something that I don't know too much about. But I know that in the Orsu tongue, ngee is also gini. You know in the Orsu area of Imo State, many people are no longer able to converse in their original tongue, and now speak what we may now loosely refer to as 'Central Igbo'. Maybe that's why you haven't observed the similarity between the dialect of Nnewi South and Orsu in Imo.

What parts of Imo did you used to live in?[/quote owerri bro
CultureRe: A List Of Igbo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by tonychristopher: 5:33pm On Jun 03, 2015
lol your so correct ...like bread ...we drag it like breeeeedi and that dialect is unique to us...it sounds as if we are singing


lol..but it is going extinct or it has gone extinct



oboy3:
your part of nnewi drag word like my ekwulobia guy does,even igbo-nkwo(igbo ukwu) too,word like shop he pronounces as shooopu as if he is singing it,,lol
CrimeRe: Ondo Policemen Kill Driver In Custody, Label Him Armed Robber- The Punch by tonychristopher: 5:02pm On Jun 03, 2015
THIS IS JUST BAD ...WHY ARE WE BLACKS THIS WICKED?

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