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SageNaruto: I can't remember which chapter exactly, but during their fight (i.e kakashi Vs obito), obito said he saw wat happened dat he knows rin was d 1 who jumped in front of kakashi's chidori in order 2 protect d village. The mist had captured Rin and sealed d sanbi in her knowing she'd be rescued and taken back 2 konoha where d mist were hoping d sanbi's seal would break and it'll destroy konoha. Rin knew dis and made kakashi kill her 2 prevent just dat..THANK YOU!!! I KNEW OBITO SAID AT SOME POINT THAT HE KNEW ABOUT IT |
WackyJ1: What happened in this chapter was hinted in the manga chapter where they showed kakashi healing himself in the other dimension. I mentioned it one time on this thread.i THOUGHT OBITO KNEW WHY KAKASHI KILLED RIN.. |
kimco: the sharing is different from when the konoha 11 entered kyuubi mode. they gained a mode ffs. it means the power is overwhelming. |
kimco: the sharing is different from when the konoha 11 entered kyuubi mode. they gained a mode ffs. it means the power is overwhelming.I'm not talking about the sharing, what I meant is that the chakra is refined, its now a blend of kyuubi and Naruto's chakra, so its harmful feature has been suppressed. 2. He said here that he managed to copy it...you can check the link to go through it fully....http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/321/10
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Willyblinks: Please when was it mentioned that nagato's reningan was via transplant? Obito (as madara) only mentioned he gave nagato the reningan. how that was done no mention of it exist as for the statement "I gave him the reningan" it could mean the transplant yes but could also refer to others parts he played to make him awaken it for example sending the guy that attacked yahiko which pushed nagato to awaken the reninganOga go and watch the anime again... |
Willyblinks: Did you request for a whole lot of an explanation when nagato being an uzumaki used the reningan? Its just a little explanation either through a flash back or kishi decides to use one episode to explain how many of the clans were formed then u'll be surprised to see how the senju. Uchiha and uzumaki relatesIf he has the rinnegan, dont you think he would have awakened it? Nagato's eyes were transplanted and as an Uzumaki, he had the chakra to use the rinnegan to the fullest even more than Madara. |
[quote author=SIR cum a lot]Nagato was an Uzumaki I think (Red hair) and it can be generally accepted that he possessed both Senju and the Uchiha part needed to use the rinnegan so I doubt if being from the Uzmaki clan will hinder Naruto getting the Rinnegan.[/quote]He has the chakra to use the rinnegan no doubt...but where did he get the Senju and Uchiha part? Awakening the rinnegan is gonna require a whole lotsa explanations from Kishi |
Brisingr: Cause only one person is known to have the ability to manifest a rinnegan and that was the Sage who genetic material spawned the Senju and Uchiha bloodline.Naruto is an Uzumaki not a Senju, so him getting rinnegan is far fetched unless becoming a juubi jinchuriki guarantees that which is not the case. |
rapmike: No Tosyn, kakashi said dat d technique 2 be used 2 advance rasengan is d xame 4 his raikiri,that he and Minato tried to advance d rasengan dat way and they both failed,dats y he resortd 2 forming raikiri 4rm chidouriI'm not arguing that, I'm arguing the fact that people are saying his rasengan is the basis of his chidori where according to him, he said he copied the jutsu and not learn it which means he had the sharingan before the rasengan and he's been using the chidori before he got the rasengan. |
kimco: I'm sorry my mistake. u didn't seem to understand me.1. Its obvious now...then he had no control of Kyuubi's chakra which was overriding his own chakra i.e he was using Kyuubi's pure chakra directly, but now their chakra have blended together and that's the chakra he's using now, that's the equation they showed in the manga when he was sharing out his chakra. 2. I never said chidori came before rasengan and/or vice versa, you're the one saying Kakashi said rasengan is the basis of his chidori and I asked you to prove it...still waiting for my proof. 3. Others have answered this. |
SageNaruto: Don't knw if sum1 else has already pointed dis out, was feeling 2 lazy 2 go thru all d comments...Raikiri requires better chakra control than chidori, that's the only difference, other than that, they're more or less the same. But as for Kakashi saying rasengan is the basis of his chidori, I need concrete evidence to believe that. |
kimco: . tosyn and wacky u heard DAT @ boldedDude, lemme see the manga page...shikena! |
dre stone okuta: How did madara survive? This is still a big question mark. Hashi was so sure madara was dead. so many unaswered question don full dis naruto self.Relax...at least now we know the reason behind Obito's revenge and now that Obito is outta the picture, its Madara next up. But wait, it took like 20 manga episodes to take out Obito...its very likely it'll take more than that for Madara. |
kimco: or I jux realised I'm wasting gym. every chapter that comes out is "awesome" by members here. woe betides us that I may critique kishi's horrid writing. and honestly the defence these days have been piss poor. wacky hasn't still answered my question. I doubt he can. if the junchiriki was getting hurt before by the overwhelming power of kyuubi recently, why shud noobs be comfortably receiving kyuubi mode when engulfed by said power. I mean seriously.Where was Naruto shown to be getting hurt recently by Kyuubi's chakra? Now you're twisting words, you said earlier that Kakashi's chidori was the basis for the rasengan and now you're claiming that someone said chidori came before rasengan. Get your claims straight |
kimco: go a bit back to when he was talking about chakra shape manipulation and nature manipulation. read it well and come back.Seems you're still too weak to argue or maybe you realise you've got nada.. |
kimco: back what up? that u said was not linked to ur conclusion? I can't but u need to back up urs.This is the page closest to what you think you're right about... Do you really read the manga?
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kimco: back what up? that u said was not linked to ur conclusion? I can't but u need to back up urs.Page link please... |
kimco: horrible premise and an a.r.s.e pull conclusionBack it up! |
And why should we wait for something that might not come? For all we know, Kishi might not release it this week claiming they're having a Volcano holiday. Or is it out? |
Willyblinks: And I agree on that that's why I said its an advancement to rasengan too but in this case another element was added to it unlike odama (at least the little I know abt it) as for chidori and raikiri please inform me was any other thing added to it? I might have missed somethingYou need higher level of chakra control to use raikiri.. |
You seem to be missing my point, am not saying they are the same thing, but you are saying it like its a completely different jutsu, but what I'm reiterating is that it is an upgrade of rasengan cos everything goes through the rasengan. |
Willyblinks: I'll rather say rasengan and odama rasengan are more the same than rasengan and rasenshuriken odama is more like a super sized rasengan thus an improvement or an advancement in his (naruto's) techniqueFirst you gotta ask, why the name RASENshuriken? It's cos you first gotta make rasengan before he adds the wind element to make it rasenshuriken. |
rapmike: I get ur point Tosyn, bt i beg 2 differ about rasengan and rasenshiruken.The effect and his throwing it is what makes it an advanced version...doesn't he go through rasengan before he makes rasenshuriken? You don't make cheese and then upgrade it to yoghurt and vice versa |
We are basically saying the same thing Raikiri is and advanced version of chidori, rasenshuriken is an advanced version of rasengan...seems our definition of 'different' is not the same... |
They are the same..Raikiri advanced form of chidori...its like saying Rasengan and rasenshuriken are different |
kimco: Read the part he was teaching naruto the rasenshurinken with Yamamoto....plus u didn't read well. I said the basics of rasengan. Using a basics of one jutsu to create anoda=\= copying a jutsu. PlsHe already had chidori, though imperfect before he had the sharingan, he has no control over his speed and movement while using chidori originally which made it imperfect but could do those after he had the sharingan, so in conclusion, he had the chidori way before the rasengan. |
Kakashi has almost if not the same level of chakra as Minato but his sharingan which is constantly on is its problem,,its just like saying Blackberry battery aint strong cos its 4G is always connected which zaps its bettery. As for how good or how bad he would have been, he would have been a great ninja no doubt, he's one of the smartest in the anime and unlike Shikamaru, he has the arsenal to consolidate his smartness |
tayoccu: I doubt, she has to have some sort of offensive arsenal for Oro to put her in charge of the facility Jugo was in.She might have fought her way out but she aint strong enough to take on Ibiki, more likely when he wasnt around. |
tayoccu: Him belle go don heal, but I fear say he don chop brushing for Karin hand as she dey escape.Karin no be offensive shinobi |
WackyJ1: Hahaha... LWKM..Come ke, him belle never heal... |
rapmike: Ibiki? Seriously i want 2 knw how he is worth ur salt, cos am nt dissing here bt i 4got that there is some1 who bears dat name in narutoverse.Are you a learner? |
kraftykc: I am back. And I have to say, you all have done magnificently in keeping the conversation going.Was it not this same Ibiki that Pain turned to a summoning instrument? |
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