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Mcbussy: shut up!!! which way of speaking?...your ability to speak ur official language is the 1st step of proving that you are worthy of being a scholar.

its only in Nigeria that you'll see shameless scholars that can't speak their official language fluently. if basic English wasn't important in measuring quality of education and intelligence,then you should have gone to a poly where Igbo or Yoruba was their language of instruction.

. Ability to speak fluently is only an added advantage.... So wat u r insinuating is dat ability to speak fluently is the true measurement of one's intelligence ? My advice is dnt alwz belittle one's
entity just to uplift urs and if u think u ar gud enough to speak and write wit little or no errors den u shld be thnkful to God, so stop makin oda ppl feel less wit dia shortcomings

davidylan: Your post is littered with basic spelling and grammar errors... if this is the evidence that polytechnic graduates are better then we have a long way to go.

There's no room in you for wisdom..... Empty barrels mak d loudest noise.... Ability to speak fluently in english is not d best measurement of intelligence so y makn reference to his errors... Alwz respct other people's way of speaking

Either Polytechnics graduates ar unworthy or not equivalent to degree holders..... I hav com into conclusion dat apart frm d fact dat polytechnics graduates are treated unfairly wit disdain, Most universities graduates wldnt want dem to be equivalent not by the discrimination or the criterion for polytechnics admission but by serious challenges their HND counterparts wld put dem in.... I guess its not worth fighting for. If truly u believe u can defend ur certificate and can beat ur HND holder counterpart in the same field of study, den let Fg equate dem and outsmart HND holders wit ur Degree

Kachisbarbie: I don't support the discrimination, i pity the poly graduates a lot - but my own problem be say...why are poly graduates somehow gullible and local? Their package dey tire me, the way they talk, even if there is something in their head, dia packaging always comes out wrong.

u hvnt proved to me dat u ar a wise man.... If d criteria for employment in the labour market was based on dis debate, wld dis crap u commented fetch u a job ?

Kachisbarbie: I don't support the discrimination, i pity the poly graduates a lot - but my own problem be say...why are poly graduates somehow gullible and local? Their package dey tire me, the way they talk, even if there is something in their head, dia packaging always comes out wrong.

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Kayraph: Honestly I'm always surprised when I hear the word 'discrimination' between BSc & HND.

I graduated with a HND in Accountancy from MAPOLY in 2001 and I am a Chartered Accountant. I have attended a lot of interviews and worked in some great companies both local & multinationals.

There has never been any instance at which anybody discriminate against my certificate because I know my onions and as of this moment I have developed the habit of selecting interviews and turning a lot down. Moreover, I have a lot of appointment letters in my house from companies which I don't feel like working with (for one reason or the other)

What I am saying in essence is that your certificate (HND, BSc, MSc, PHD etc) could only get you an interview, your success at the interview us a combination of your ability as well as favor & luck from God.

Also, within the office environment, you have to dustinguish yourself as an exemplary employee to your employers and you will be surprised that no one will be concerned about your book knowledge but rather the value you can add to the business entity.

Some companies do not even ask for your credentials afterall (whether its real, Oluwole or Toronto) It all depends on how diligent, hardworking and professional you are.

In conclusion, let no HND holder feel inferior and let no BSc holder feel superior. You have to pass through school and allow the school pass through you.

I rest my case!

U ar a man full of wisdom

rckdude: Your post is just too long and quite tiresome. But you have this strong passion for what you believe in. That's good I'd advice you turn that passion into actions. If more HND holders worked their ways to the zenith of the corporate pyramid, then they should be able to end this prejudice. Because I think the only reason we have it like this is because employers of labour are B.sc holders. So stop the whining and go all out.
If I was in the position to employ, HND or B.sc would not even come up, its what you can deliver. But sorry I have not assumed such position and power. Its up to you guys.
May God reward all your efforts and labour.

u ar a man of wisdom

zebra: A lot of people today do not want polytechnic education not because it's not good, but because of the discrimination against it by university graduates. The main question is why are the university graduates always afraid of the polytechnic graduates? Where are they always quick to say that poly HND is not equivalent to a Degree, even when it was meant to be so? Why are poly HND graduates who are given the opportunity to compete with Degree holders always meet expectations of doing well? Why is it that Nigerian HND holders who are doing Masters programs in some foreign countries with their Nigerian Bsc holders are also doing well and coping with the programs?

. U ar a man of wisdom

otokx: Thank God there is no lawyer with HND. HND that 150 is their qualifying mark want to rub shoulders with graduates, chai.

low sense of reasoning.... Sorry wats ur gp ?

Frm d comments av read so far, only few persons who claim to be university graduate cld reason to a high degree.. Can imagine some fools wasting
their time to argue if a University
Graduate is superior to a Polytechnic
Graduate or not.
Whoever told you that your greatness
or success is attached to HND or Bsc must have told you the biggest lie.. When has Bsc becom an automatic passport to success ? U ar bad mouthing polytechnic graduates wen som illiterates out there ar makin cool cash..... Most of you dnt av clear understanding of life.. God says I wil show mercy on whom I wil show mercy on and not those wit HND, Bsc or Phd... My advice to all Polytechnics stdnts is, develop urslf and prove ur Bsc counterpart dat u ar beta dan dem

Tosdam61: The case would remain in the old shape it was. Right from admission process, the dichotomy has been made cleared and set. Ninety-nine percent of students who are in Polytechnic today wish they gain admission in University from the onset of their admission hurdle but due to thier inability to get there they have no other choice than switching to where their ability lies.

Let set the record straight without being biased. A University has it mode of impacting likewise Poly does. I heard some people making reference to themselves that they teach a university student likewise so many university students do.

An institution can only build a man and it is left to the man to convince the world that he has built himself. Truly we have some uni students that can't defend their certificate just like the way some poly student can't stand the knowledge of some secondary school students.

Some polytechnics in Nigeria are not even worthwhile to be called Higher institution but a mere advanced secondary school base on their facilities and products.

What I think we should be concerned about is the adulterate condition of our education in Nigeria not the dichotomy in degrees. We have some polytechnic students who are better paid or employed than their counterpart.

A degree doesn't makes a man but a man makes a degree.
A university or polytechnic graduate should be made to create Jobs with their mindset not to just be a doll looking for job alone....

u ar a man of wisdom

Apart frm d fact dat there's an atom of Jealousy in his post, 2 and 4 is true buh not so true though.... Most handsome guys tend to cheat due to too many admiration frm d opposite sex

I kinda love challenges but not to d extreme....There's a limit to d challenges I can withstand evn though I sincerely love a lady.... D mistakes d new generation ladies make days is dis 'HARD TO GET '' syndrome running through their veins not knowing fully wella dat it is sometimes not b best method of recruit simply because guys av divers high self esteem too... As som wld say '' if a guy sincerely loves u, he wld definitely neva let go off u no mata how harsh u threat him.... Am sorry for you oooooooo... U can purse a man and wld neva com bck to u evn if he's destined 4u

I presume d prob u ar havin is d fear of rejection... U jst av to summon courage and talk to her as if u ar talkin to a guy and d more u aint afraid of rejection or insults frm her d bolder u wld become (anoda name for success is persistence)... Also try to start keepin female frnds and am sure dat also wld boost ur self confidence

I go for F

Ladies ar quite competitive in nature and easily get in d league of contest of perishable parameters .... I dnt evn knw wat advice to offer cos I av Phobia for dating bleachers jst as ur fiance

Nice write up bro.... I jst hope u won't lure me into sexual immorality mak me sef no go straph my Uncle House girl

Dis syndrome of shouting ' UP NEPA '' runs virtually in d blood of those who lived a life full of fun at dia tender age.... As a matter of fact, sometimes I stl say dis tins unconsciously and jst smile afterwards

I believe it is d nature of our culture dat causes it... I'd say d reason why it is so is simply because women ar regarded as d weaker sex... However, this dichotomy existed even in d Bible not until Jesus came and threw d Old Testament belief in d bin. If u ar very very conversant wit d Bible u wld see dat to some extent, ladies were nt equal gender.... Despite al dis, some stl pick offence in ladies preaching to them as ladies dey ar considered to be unworthy... Lookin at it frm d pre-existence, d word MAN signifies leadership, Wisdom, Strength and so on and so forth.... So I guess its happening everywhr in d world jst dat developed countries ar able to overcome it by makin favourable judgement by default in respect of ladies and as we knw dat Africans ar stl living outdated life

Abeg dat grl na yeye girl jawe.... Wat kinda of favourable and unrighteous covenant wld such an hypocrite mak wit God ? Remember u cannot bribe God.... I wont advise u to date a lady of such as u wld have trust issues.... Ur right sense of reasoning shld av told u dat she's not wat she claims to be.... She myt be a virgin biologically ooo... FINE !!! But y wld u be in a relationship wit a lady who told u she has a covenant wit God to be undefiled yet she engages in al forms of sexual imomralities and wld deceive men wit her closed hymen afterwards... Morover the poster sounds so desperate for sex... U dnt sound lik a man yet

In marriage, age dsnt define respct.... Its funny som educated persons of 21st century stil av awkward sense of reasoning and funny enough ppl who think dis way ar bein driven my negative influence and foolish motives....Though am not a fan of getn married to a lady older dan me buh I see no reason y a man wld set an age gap claimin d years gap btw you and ur wife determines the respect.... Pls let's change our mentality and stop thinkin dey way dey think in 1800BC

[quote author=dotcom_na_me_na_me]If you decide to keep your body for your future husband,then I'm keeping my money for my future wife. No pre marital SEX..No Pre marital SPENDING..

[/quote]lwkmd.... Guy u too funny abeg

I guess its true

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guy I swear dis tin wey u dey do no go pay u at all..... Ur mates dey hustle u dey busy dey indulge and lure ppl into shit.... And I sure say u go senior Wizkid oooooo

The decision of ur children goin to their father's place resides in dia mind... As long as u av trained dis boys well and showed dem undying love, I can bet u such children wld neva want those family member around @ all..... My dear, pls jst move close to God and forget u have a husband cos d more u remember him the more it causes burden to ur heart

In a sort, I kind of agree wit d poster though d statistics isn't ryt... If u r very conversant wit d internet and also a wise chatter, there are many ways to ascertain who is who evn though u av checkd dia profile....for example, on 2go, wen u seen 2go rooms usernames such as sexy....., beauty......, sexydiva......,etc, d probabilty dat dey ar male usin female Identity to Scam is on d high side.... Buh on Nairaland ehn, I alwz suspect those whose gender is hidden, no display picture and those who claim to b female but alwz posting wat an average Nigeria lady cannot utter unless to d person she has intimacy wit

Na al dis foolish ladies dey utter such statement pass wen notn is evn expensive bout dem sef..... Dey are bein driven by peer influence and negative mindset... I av neva seen a lady sayin '' he's not my class simply because he dsnt attend church services regularly or he isn't very close to God as I expctd.... But wen it comes to moni & luxury tins, na dat tym dem go dey talk rubbish...# som ladies dis days sef don dey see d future of guys pass Prophet of God sef.... # dem go soon quote me now, make una dey look #

I'd say dey probably did not pass tru d ryt channel of marriage.. However, passin tru d ryt channel of marriage is beyond spending millions for d ceremony..... Our celebrities get married wit selfish motives of perishable parameters.. Som of our parents spent little or notn to get married those days yet dia marriage wld last for a life tym.... So I av com into conclusion dat our celebrities dnt undstnd d concept of marriage.. Morover, marriage is more spiritual dan physical