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what time do you have to farm, with over 1000 topics on nairaland? ![]() anyway, what do you want us to do for you, spell it out. |
[quote author=Dudu_Negro]Tpia, I doubt many of the respondents gave deep thought to the issue before they started responding. There is this assumption or perharps a stereotypes that anytime a underage girl is married the suitor is always an older man and that its a Northerner. There are legitimate marriages between 15, 16, 17yr old girls and boys their age bracket and this must not be outlawed. Changing the provisions of the constitution might regrettably remove that option for young suitors. The response from this Senator from Akure showed that he did not understand the constitution he voted in favor of and even after the outcry from oppoaition he still did not understand it when he gave the apology. Shame on LP![/quote]actually, the senator understood more than people know. |
I doubt many of the respondents gave deep thought to the issue before they started responding. There is this assumption or perharps a stereotypes that anytime a underage girl is married the suitor is always an older man and that its a Northerner. There are legitimate marriages between 15, 16, 17yr old girls and boys their age bracket and this must not be outlawed.^ that used to be the case in ancient times, but nowadays its relatively rare to see females marrying at such young ages. besides, any girl who is married off like that, would preclude the possibility of her going to school. likewise for the boy, very few teenagers have the financial ability to cope with a family, not to mention they're still kids at that age. in nigeria, not sure what the legal definition of a minor is, but a teenager is still a minor and as such, cant make decisions that would be binding like an adult. if any such marriage occurs, it would have to be without legal backing, maybe a traditional or familial one if present. |
fujirice: I know this house of reps member in one of the state house of assembly down here, this woman knows nada as in absolutely NADA but she was forced on her people by the then governor. Her own is to raise her hand when others(majority of people in the house) are raising and keeps it down when FEW people raised theirs. She's still in that house to date making laws for my people.........its just too sad!and she's different from the average nler or average nigerian how? ![]() |
where is the one who was abusing her cousins in family section. come and see your fellow human, how he dey do him own. |
are wizkid and davido the only musicians in nigeria? why were their lyrics the only ones quoted? |
the clause in question has been part of the Nigerian constitution before now, but nobody made noise about it. in the decades or centuries its been there, how many of the people shouting know anyone who is underage and married? those things have been unheard of for generations. I'm more concerned about the 9 year old boy who "married" a 75 year old woman in some african country- nairalanders were on the thread but mostly voiced approval. is that not madness. |
BTW lest the Christians attribute drop in crime rates to the idea that muslims constitute the bulk of criminalsa cycle. |
The clause that is really causing this unnecessary hullabaloo is Section 29 (4) (b). That clause has always been part of our laws, but the Senate moved to remove it as infringing on child’s right by making every married woman an adult.we need to know who originally inserted that clause there. |
who are the people abusing their father's age mate here? e l'agba nle sha, awon born throway. |
the only question i have for him is, why is his polytechnic situated in sango otta and not ondo state? are there any branches or satellite campuses in ondo state? |
Rhea: [size=18pt]if he goes, they all go. |
so, if he and the edo senator had not voted no, the house would have been split along ethnic north vs south lines, and we would have had another ph embroglio. na wa for nairalanders and their tiny, war filled brains. |
the constitution is currently being amended and rights groups have called for the deletion of subsection 4b.which rights groups are those. |
naptu2: The 1979 constitution did not contain provisions for renunciation of citizenship. During constitutional review debates in 1979 Aminu Kano (the leader of the PRP) felt that the age of 18 years used in subsection 4a was an arbitrary western concept of maturity. The legislators in 1979 at the time agreed with the PRP argument and subsection 4b was included. |
his interview: You schooled in the South-West and you stood out, what is the magic behind it?http://sunnewsonline.com/new/business/i-started-my-practice-with-two-suits-godwin-obla/ |
Celebrations as Godwin Obla becomes first Idoma SANhttp://dailypost.com.ng/2013/07/21/celebrations-as-godwin-obla-becomes-first-idoma-san/ |
Marotzke: You may wish to restrict yourself to Yoruba or Acn comments . On Igbo names, when ever you see Ana , the person most probably is from Anambra state, as in Anthony Anaenugwu from Enugwukwu in Anambra state. Ani is predominant in Enugu state. Ikechukwu Ani , Attorney general Enugu state. Ala probably is from Imo or Abi state . Alagboso, Alajemba etc.you were nowhere to be found when i initially asked for the states of origin however! perhaps fear of the big mouths on the thread did not let you post then? However, thanks for the info! |
superior1: Senator sir, I think you need a psychiatry evaluation urgently.sir, who is the married 13 year old you're referring to here? let me quote the section of the nigerian constitution that addresses naturalization eligibility: 27. (1) Subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, any person who is qualified in accordance with the provisions of this section may apply to the President for the same of a certificate of naturalisation.kindly note the bolded! |
the clause has been in the constitution since before 1999. ask whoever put it there, why they did so. |
[quote author=life_style]be careful with what you say to your self..[/quote]must she marry a pastor? |
UNDERAGE MARRIAGE WAS LEGALIZED IN NIGERIA PRIOR TO THESE SENATORS VOTING ON IT. SECTION 29 (4)(b) is part OF THE 1999 CONSTITUTION. WHO PUT IT THERE, THIS IS 2013 AND PEOPLE DECIDED TO MAKE NOISE OVER A CLAUSE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENT SINCE PRE-1999? SOMEBODY TRANSLATE FOR ME, THANKS. |
Past constitutions Colonial era (1914–1960) Nigeria's first constitutions were enacted by order in council during the colonial era, when the country was administered as a Crown Colony. The constitutions enacted during this period were those of 1913 (which came into effect on 1 January 1914), 1922, 1946, 1951 (the Macpherson constitution), and 1954 (the Lyttelton constitution). Independence constitution (1960) Nigeria's first constitution as a sovereign state was enacted by a British order in council so as to come into force immediately upon independence, on 1 October 1960. Under this constitution Nigeria retained Queen Elizabeth II as titular head of state. 1963 constitution (First Republic) Independent Nigeria's second constitution established the country as a federal republic. It came into force on 1 October 1963 (Nigeria's third anniversary as an independent nation). The 1963 constitution, which was based on the Westminster system, continued in operation until a military coup in 1966 overthrew Nigeria's democratic institutions. 1979 constitution (Second Republic) The 1979 constitution, which brought in the Second Republic, abandoned the Westminster system in favour of an American-style presidential system, with a directly-elected executive. To avoid the pitfalls of the First Republic, the constitution mandated that political parties and cabinet positions reflect the "federal character" of the nation: political parties were required to be registered in at least two-thirds of the states, and each state had to have at least one member of the cabinet from it. 1993 constitution (Third Republic) The 1993 constitution was intended to see the return of democratic rule to Nigeria with the establishment of a Third Republic, but was never fully implemented, and the military resumed power until 1999. 1999 constitution (Fourth Republic) The 1999 constitution restored democratic rule to Nigeria, and remains in force today. In January 2011, two amendments of the 1999 constitution were signed by President Goodluck Jonathan, the first modifications since the document came into use in 1999. |
this section of the bill has been in the nigerian constitution long before now. some senators voted to remove it [did they just see it there?], while others voted to leave it as is. the question remains, who first suggested it be removed and what was his reason. lets get to the root of this. |
[quote author=sweet_gala]^^ I have read valid points from the other legal practitioners and yes there is no immediately obvious link between that particular clause and under age marriage. But it exist a loophole which grants yerima authority and legal shelter. His now 17 year old Egyptian bride is considered an adult(she has been entitled to the rights to vote as every other Nigerian adult since the age of 13) This loophole would allow paedophiles to buy children and marry them in pervert friendly havens outside Nigeria and bring them to nigeria where they exist as adults.[/quote]his bride did not become nigerian through her marriage, unless there's something i'm missing here. how did the law apply to her? |
the clause under discussion: 29. (1) Any citizen of Nigeria of full age who wishes to renounce his Nigerian citizenship shall make a declaration in the prescribed manner for the renunciation.who put section 4(b) there? and how long has it been there? |
ie via the legal route, not the oluwole one where you just get a passport even if you've never set foot in africa. |
requirements for nigerian citizenship applicable to non-nigerians: 7. (1) Subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, any person who is qualified in accordance with the provisions of this section may apply to the President for the same of a certificate of naturalisation. |
The section up for amendment had to do with persons qualified to renounce Nigerian citizenship. The constitution in Section 29 says anyone of age can do so. Section 29(4) (b) says that ” any woman who is married shall be deemed to be of full age.” It means that even a child if married can be seen to be of full age and as such can renounce citizenship. The committee proposed that that provision be deleted.1. The section under discussion was in the constitution long before now, right? 2. Why did nobody notice it before? 3. So, they were voting to remove that particular amendment- may I ask who put it there to begin with? 4. In that case, the senators who voted to allow it to remain, were not doing anything out of the ordinary per se, if that clause had been there prior to that session. 5. I'm not too clear on how the clause applies to Sen Yerima since his bride is not nigerian. Nigeria does not confer fast tracked citizenship by marriage like countries in the west do. It takes a longer time, often decades. |
The section up for amendment had to do with persons qualified to renounce Nigerian citizenship. The constitution in Section 29 says anyone of age can do so. Section 29(4) (b) says that ” any woman who is married shall be deemed to be of full age.” It means that even a child if married can be seen to be of full age and as such can renounce citizenship. The committee proposed that that provision be deleted.why was this bill being discussed to begin with? which person or persons want to renounce their citizenship, and why did the matter have to be debated in senate? i think there are clear procedures in place for people who want to renounce citizenship, what led to the matter being brought up now? |
where is the full transcript of that particular session? sounds like a set up imo. the ones who refrained from voting, why did they do so? |
Sissie: That is not the only way to stay within limits, and people don't always get sucked right back in.they can always meet in the presence of chaperones i should think. completely cutting off in that manner seems more like they're breaking up and likely will just marry other people in future. not sure a woman should wait, in such a scenario, else imo she may end up still waiting while the man hasnt. i could be wrong of course. |
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