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TenQ:
How can you know that the Actor is not Acting?


Can an Actor not experience Grief?

A Good Actor is expressing Grief: can you measure its weight?

A Good Actor is Crying: can you measure the weight of his Grief?

Something is really wrong with you.

What do actors do for God sake!

Grief is an individual's emotional reaction to real pain or what causes pain.No actor ever feels real pain except when they're not acting.

And why asking me the weight of grief ? Did I ever tell it has weight like matter?

Grief is tangible because it can be felt intensely. You're blinded by the word, grief, and not the reality it describes. And I have described it, and you can't see because you deliberately choose not to open your eyes to see.


If you're not satisfied with my explanations, you can use Google or chat box to understand how grief is tangible.

TenQ:
Let me bring you to ground zero


1. Do realities exist that are not Tangible?

Instead of you to critically respond to I what explained, you have decided to deflect again.

I already answered the question about intangible realities. So I'm not going to answer it again this time .If you say you didn't see that's your cup of tea or you go back to where I answered it to see how you even responded .

I think you have a problem remembering things or you struggle to understand what's explained in simple English language. The later is obviously your problem as can be seen from your replies to others here on this board.

TenQ:
The problem with you is that you hold a seriously deficient position and no amount of reeducation will you adopt.

Now we say: Lets put your claim to test and you are still hesitant.

A Good Actor is acting out Grief: can you measure its weight?

. Is an actor really grieving or pretending to be?

Why do you want to measure what's not real , but mere pretence, acting . There's no real grief there and so nothing to measure. Why can't you understand this?

Talk of a situation where an individual is grieving for real not an actor. You want to set a trap for yourself not me.

jaephoenix:
U can determine the extent of grief by observing the reaction. Some express grief by just moping at space, some cry, some roll on the floor. These are degrees of expression of grief
Any other questions, stupido!?

It's very obvious now that TenQ has a problem with comprehension. He struggles to understand what is explained to him in English language.

Emusan:
No attempt on these questions especially this number 4 since!

It has been answered, but your friend won't accept the answers .

The questions are even needless. Nobody ever ask those before using a software. He has an agenda he's denying .

Tell him to tell you the actual reason behind the questions. He has refused to answer directly.

TenQ:
Like:
Her Grief was tangible!


1. Is this an objective judgement?
2. What is the value of Grief that will make it tangible?

Your royal majesty seems not to know what a figure of speech is: do you?

Her grief was tangible is not a figure of speech.

When you see someone seriously grieving, you can describe it as tangible. A tangible grief is one that's intensely felt and seen by others watching you. That's the meaning


You only know one meaning of tangible and that's the problem you have.

If you say it's a figure of speech,then mention what figure of speech it's. Figures of speech have names.

TenQ:
Did you go to school at all?

Okay: Its a matter of English Language
The apparent gravitational pull on the moon reduced by 5% because of the presence of a large asteroid passing beside it, how much energy will a man of 60 kg use to jump up by 1.1 m?


Can you tell us a day when your friends grief was tangible, how can you determine if his grief was more tangible than his sisters own grief?

I dey laugh 😂 . You must be smoking something.

See how you finally exposed your ignorance.
However you describe it, whether you remove the "if" or not to deceive yourself it's still hypothetical because it never did happen.

What's the actual date of the event? If you can't provide that then it's not a real or has happened.


Stop fooling yourself and just rest. Please look up the meaning of hypothetical situation before replying.

BTW what has the event,the gravitational pull and the rest got to do with grief?
Modified.
The first clause before asking "how much energy will"...... is a conditional clause, but you stupidly remove the "if" because you don't know its function. Read the first one that has the "if" and the edited one and notice how it doesn't flow or make sense. You be Dundee united. I swear

And the same you have been calling out others for not understanding English language. Yeye they smell

TenQ:
As If I have the time to wade through EVERYTHING you have written on the Tangibility of the Soul on Nairaland.

If you are ashamed of telling me your position, why dont you just give a reference.

I said up there,not everything .

TenQ:
The question is valid:

Example:
IF the apparent gravitational pull on the moon reduced by 5% because of the prescence of a large asteroid passing beside it, how much energy will a man of 60 kg use to jump up by 1.1 m?



Your kind of Answer:
"I don't want to discuss what's hypothetical."

Is this answer reasonable for the question asked?

What you describe up there is still hypothetical. It begins with an "if".
Which school u go sef?

TenQ:
A Good Actor is acting out Grief: can you measure its weight?

This is NOT a hypothetical question!

It's actually hypothetical situation, not real.

You said a good actor. What do actors do? Answer that and stop fooling yourself. Actors don't feel real pain. They only pretend to make it appear real for the audience.

Please bring a situation that's real, not illusion

TenQ:
Can you please at a cellular level give me the name and characteristics of the life in each cell that slowly ebbs away?

I am trying to learn biology from you!

Next time when you run a test in a medical lab,ask the lab scientists to show you a picture of the viruses in your system so you can use your fingers to count it one by one to be sure the viral load written on the test report is accurate.

TenQ:
Trust me.

Does one teach Quantum Chemistry or Physics to Primary school children before they have the basic knowledge of physics and chemistry?

No!

That would be wrong .But you're
not teaching children but adults who may know it more than you.

Your problem is that you haven't been able to show the connection between the two subjects, software and spirit . You haven't even defined spirits.

How do we then know you're capable of teaching it?

Or we should just submit our brains to you like the sheepies in your church to fill it with nonsense?

. Where's your credentials to know you're an authority on the subject of spirits?

You just don't walk into any school and announce yourself a teacher of something and demand you are employed immediately. You will need to present your credentials first ,and demonstrate you are capable of teaching the children. So do the same here.

Demonstrate first that a knowledge of computer softwares is basic to learning about spirits . That's all.

Until you understand that Realities exist that are not Tangible, there is no moving forward.

Moving forward to where? To the land of confusion?

You only know one thing and want to use it to interpret everything around you. All of existence doesn't revolve around a computer software. People have been discussing and teaching about spirits years before modern computers were invented. How were able to do that without a knowledge of softwares? Tell me

TenQ:
If a SOFTWARE in a Machine is TANGIBLE, should it not be measurable?


Note:
Many of your Atheist colleague believe that the Software within a Machine is Tangible. The Question was asked for their sake!

Another "if" again. You have a serious problem and you don't even know it.

I said I don't want to discuss what's hypothetical. Bring the reai thing let's discuss that

And again, I'm not an atheist. I keep reminding of this,but it seems you have memory problems

TenQ:
Is the SOul tangible?

YES or NO?

Go back and read what I said. I can't repeat myself

TenQ:
This still doesn't change the fact that you have demonstrated clearly that you cannot comprehend that Realities that are NOT Tangible exist, it is meaningless explanation to you.


Except you have changed your mind!

You have failed, and woefully. This is just the last kick of a dying horse.

Next time, learn to be honest with whatever you do here . Not everyone can be fooled by you. You have proven yourself to be denialist and pathological liar. I don't pity you one bit because of your lack of respect for others who wasted their time to respond to your stupidity .
What you sowed is what you have reaped .

TenQ:
It isnt:
If Grief is Tangible, fakes can be detected easily

A Good Actor is acting out Grief: can you measure its weight?

. I said I'm not interested in discussing what's hypothetical.

A good actor is acting. Everybody knows that, but someone involved in a ghastly accident with serious injury to their body cannot fake it.

TenQ:
How do you messure Grief?

What of if a Good Actor is acting out Grief: can you measure its weight?

That's an hypothetical situation. I want to answer only to what's real.

Grief doesn't have weight so your question is as silly as the ones you have asked

TenQ:
You are the professor of Physics abi!
And who told you that I was making definitions for physics students. Lets see how your ignorance play out

MY QUESTION:


YOUR RESPONSE:

Just look at your response arrogant emptiness. This is how you fail your exams with copy-paste of things you do not understand.
1. can you show me ANYWHERE where i said that whatever cannot be measured in terms of mass, Dimension, Energy and time doesn't exist as you have claimed. Simple comprehension of English Language has deluded you
2. While TRYING to explain what TANGIBILITY of existence means according to the fundamental law of the universe with respect to physics, You spoke of SUBSTANCES THAT MAKE UP THE UNIVERSE and you mentioned energy and force
Please tell me, Energy and Forces are SUBSTANCES!? Please explain because I only read my physic to 100 Levels.
3. Suddenly, to feign knowledge, you copied and pasted a 2nd law: and I was wondering if you were about he Second law of Motion or the second law of thermodynamics: as you know, my physics is elementary.
4. You now went completely off tangent to the question: was the question remotely about spirits?
I don't get it o. Mr Expert.

If you had read my post at all, you wouldn't come up with this lame duck response to my question

Let me Help you out a little with the reason behind the Question
My Question was simply in another words that: If an observable is NOT tangible, does it mean that it doesn't exist?

MY QUESTION:

YOUR RESPONSE:

Your Response shows that you know NOTHING about how data is stored in a computer either in the ROM or HDD or the REGISTERS or even the FlashDrive. Your ignorance is so deep that I am disappointed in you. I thought you knew a little about Softwares or Digital Electronics.

1. You said: "Softwares can be observed :Visually and Auditory"
May I please ask you for the colour of the Softwares you have seen and the frequency and waveform of the sound it produces: I am waiting o!
2. You said: Softwares are highly interactive even more than the hardwares.
May I please ask you to tell me the mechanism by which a software is highly interactive?

Have you ever programmed one line of "Hello World" before?
3. Then you went off tangent again: Read the question and tell me if the two questions were about spirits?

MY QUESTION:

YOUR RESPONSE:

I don't know if this is a problem of comprehension of simple English Language: the question says:
Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?

The answer should be either Yes it is Wisdom or No it is not wisdom, but your royal professor of Physics did NOT understand the Question one bit.

Don't you know that Questions are not statements of position?
You fall my hand o!

MY QUESTION:

Anyone who ever ask if a software can or should be "measured" like you are asking is talking nonsense.

TenQ:
At least you agree that Grief is Tangible.

Then Please respond:
Just as Grief and Life is Tangible according to you,
What if I tell you that the Soul is tangible, what will you say?

Did you not read what I said up there about soul? Go back and read

TenQ:
But you have demonstrated clearly that you cannot comprehend that Realities that are NOT Tangible exist, it is meaningless explanation to you.

Empty words of a drowning man clutching at straws. Show how I have demonstrated what you said or shut up you lying Christian

I answered that they exist but you forget because you see this as a competition to prove you are clever when you're not.

FRANCISTOWN:
Obviously. The person behind the moniker TenQ doesn't understand elementary physics and computer science.



First of all. The fundamental law of the universe with respect to physics doesn't say
whatever cannot be measured in terms of mass, Dimension, Energy and time doesn't exist.
This is what the tangibility of existence means according to the fundamental law of the universe with respect to physics.

The fundamental law of universe with respect to physics is that. The substances that made up the universe are either observable or touchable or being felt or interactive (with or without laboratory equipments.)

For instance, energy and force can't be seen(often than not). But when you hit your head on the ground or you get electrocuted. You'd cease to be an unbeliever. They are highly interactive.

2nd law: As we all know, the laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference. That is,
the truly fundamental laws are the same everywhere for all observers.

Therefore,
Can spirits be seen by anyone with or without laboratory aids? No.
Can they be touched by anyone? No.
Can they be felt by anyone? No
Can they be interacted with by anyone? No.
Are they observable? NO.

Therefore, spirits don't satisfy any criterion of the fundamental law of existence of the universe. Therefore, according to physics. Spirits don't exist.


This is a poor comparison. Because softwares satisfy the criterion for existence under the fundamental laws of existence.

•Softwares can be observed(visually and auditory), when you look into your screen, use speakers and microphones.
•Softwares are highly interactive even more than the hardwares .

Therefore, softwares are very poor measuring yards for spirits.


They are highly interactive and observable. Therefore, they exist.


This shows your poor understanding of how the computer works.

Softwares don't stay on the C.P.U. Any set of instructions written directly on a hardware is called a *firmware*.

Softwares are set of written instructions, they are either, compiled, translated or interpreted into machine codes. These machine codes stay on the main drive first, and if requested moves to the RAM, as a series of jobs to be passed into the processor for execution, then as cache and finally to the processor and back to the cache and back to the RAM the cycle continues.

Therefore any software that cannot be found on the memory of any computer device doesn't exist. It is that simple.

@the emboldened doesn't even make any sense and it shows you don't know what you are talking about.



You are actually the one who doesn't know anything here and you are not just a noice maker but a town crier.

Thank you very much for this detail response. The bolded is what I have been trying to drum into his head but he won't accept or understand it due to ego. Software is a very poor analogy for spirit.

Watch out how he would reply ,with, "you can't
comprehend what spirit is for him to discuss it with you".That's the only defence he has

TenQ:
Too bad!
Pearls are not given to pigs.

If you cannot comprehend that Realities that are NOT Tangible exist, it is meaningless explanation to you.

Sorry, when you grow up in understanding

You dont have any pears to give,and name calling amd insults wont win you an argument. It reveals your frustration that you're losing the debate.

TenQ:
No Sir,

One of your Illustrations you used was according to the Websters dictionary to prove that Grief is Tangible (even though I explained taya that it was a figure of speech to no avail)

/Her Grief was tangible

Please respond:
Just as Grief and Life is Tangible according to you,
What if I tell you that the Soul is tangible, what will you say?

I didn't use any websters dictionary to define grief. You're mistaking me for someone else.

I just explained how grief is tangible. Read my response up there. Soul is tangible , but what's soul is misconstrued in religion. Soul simply refers to the real person. You're soul and not that you have a soul.
Are you not tangible? Yes you're.
So , soul is tangible

Aemmyjah:

Don't mind TenQ
Pls explain how grief is tangible

And you think you're talking to a child with the bolded
Tangible means what can be touched or felt,and a synonym for tangible is palpable which has to do what intense feelings

So ,grief is tangible as you can feel it within yourself or see it in others grieving.

The word, grief, on its own, is not the reality it describes ,but just a descriptive word we have all collectively agreed on to use to refer to something everyone can experience.

Grief describes an individual's emotional reaction to anything thing that causes pain. Others can see us grieving, and determine or measure our grief by the extent to which we react to what's causing us pain . That's why grief is described as tangible

Aemmyjah:
Francistown
Come o
Come and help your atheists brothers
They are highly confused
Even contradicting one another

Can u answer these

Please stop quoting me with your waywardness. Discuss the op,then I will answer you. I said I'm not an atheist and I have repeated that at different times here. Are you deaf or something?

Answer these below if you know what's spirit . Just focus on the op.

1. What's spirit?

2. What's the nature of spirit.?

3. How do you know it exist despite your believe it cannot be seen or measured physically ?

4. What's the relation or connection between spirit and the material world and yourself?

5. Clearly explain how spirit compares with a computer software.

Answer the above or ask your friend TenQ who claims to be an authority on spirits to answer it for you, and let's proceed on mature and sensible discussion,not this childishness from you.

The questions asked by TenQ are completely asinine as it as nothing to do with spirit or God described in the Bible. He should take his computer talk to the right section since he doesn't want to be honest. Your friend is lying about the true intention behind his questions and you're here defending and covering for him instead of condemning him of using deception to discuss God or spirits



Nobody has ever demanded for a direct physical quantification of a computer software before they buy it or install it in their machine,and that's because, even though
it can't be seen or touched, we know it exist as something that produces visible effects which anyone can see whether you believe in it or not

So it won't make sense to demand for physical quantification. But for spirit, the public doesn't know much about it . So it's wisdom to ask for some form of physical quantification to be certain it exist as real. Your friend is misapplying knowledge to fool people like you who refuses to think or question anything.

I already answered his questions ,and ask him some questions in return while doing so, but he has refused to respond in kind.

So why should continue ? Don't bother me if you can't get him to answer the questions I and others have been asking him . A teacher who's afraid to take questions from students doesn't know the subject very well.

TenQ:
Just as Grief and Life is Tangible according to you,
What if I tell you that the Soul is tangible, what will you say?

Note: the effects of the soul on the body are
With our soul we feel emotions,
With our soul we have volition
With our soul we have intellect


I am using your logic now o!

Your lying and not using my logic correctly. I said grief can be described as tangible without mentioning how yet.

You should have asked me how grief is tangible before jumping the gun.

jaephoenix:
The funny thing is his fellow cretarded theists are applauding him, like he's their champion. That shows their reasoning is just poor

. They just want to give moral support ,not caring if he's making sense or not.

And what did you expect from people who don't know what's a proof or evidence for something .

TenQ:
Do you agree that It is a stupid definition (from a real point of view) : it only makes sense as a figure of speech.



What can be appraise as tangible:Grief!?

How do you measure the grade of tangibility?

So when something makes sense as a figure of speech you can't make sense of it to know what's being referred to ?

A computer software is not tangible, but it makes perfect sense to describe it as that when you consider the visible effects it produces. That's how we know it exist without measuring it directly. This is simple science that a person who claim to be an expert is struggling to understand. SMH

Your problem is that you want a word to mean only what you want to mean despite evidence to the contrary, and that's because of the personal agenda you're pursuing on this thread.



What visible effects does spirit produces for you to compare it to a software. That's all
If you're not able to mention that ,then please take your display to the right section and ask your questions there. You're derailing the thread. Maybe it's about time the mods are invited to intervene since you don't want to be honest.

This is religion section and the subject under discussion is spirit. Discuss that if you know it and stop hiding behind something to prove another thing that's not related to it in any way It won't work here .

Your friends have by their comments shown you're indirectly explaining spirit or God,but you continue to deny it, and you're a Christian?

Modified. You want to measure physically another person's grief before you know they're grieving.? Nonsense.

budaatum:
Triple, I am an atheist, yet I can agree with the bold depending on context.

Say, I were to believe and claim to worship God, but can not be bothered to love my neighbour because my neighbour does not believe what I believe or has a different point of view to mine, it could be said that my belief in God lacks spirit and is therefore intangible..

Just throwing it out there that one can worship God in tangible spirit, as by thy fruits suggest.

Yes ,it will lack it

alizma:
Don't be fooled, they are looking at it from annual base not monthly.

. Who tells you that?

This is not the first time government is reviewing minimum in this country. Look to what happened in the past to understand what's going on now concerning the negotiations

StillDtruth:
Actually, their love for evil and their hatred for God is what prevents them from immediately seeing that they are been deceived with Lies.

John 3:20 describes what happens to people who love evil.

20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light

And you can't see that you're commiting evil by judging and condemning others. What happens to judgement is for God and thou shall not judge?

TenQ:
I agree with you.

They have trusted the Charles Dawkins and co that they don't even bother to ask questions before joining the atheist bandwagon

The irony.