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LordReed:
From page 146 of the report:

The story of Sarah implied that she really could see during her NDE, in the way that a sighted person might. We have shown this is an unwarranted inference. What seemed like an analog to physical sight really was not when examined closely.

I would investigate first before accepting if anyone born blind reports having sight while having an NDE or OBE.

I am not saying it's not possible for those born blind not to see something, but it's very rare. It would take an highly evolved soul who is born blind to start to see something immediately they have their consciousness operating outside their bodies.

The question to ask concerning those reports is this, How is it possible for someone who has never seen anything before while in their physical bodies to report that they have sight during OBE or NDE when they don't have any memories of ever seeing before or know what it means to see?

But if the blind person already has memories of what it means to see before they went blind, then it is possible to see since they already know what it means .

However, it would take some adjusting of the blind person's perception outside their physical bodies to see anything

The time it takes to make this adjustment is dependent on the level of awareness of the blind person

It can happen immediately, not immediately or not all, as the blind may not have the time to make this adjustment before returning back to their physical bodies.

Consciousness requires a brain ,while in the physical body ,to receive impressions it interprets in order to make sense of what is going on in its immediate enviroment, and also to help to control the physical body to keep it going. But outside the body it doesn't require a brain to control anything since it is now operating without a physical body and can perceive things directly without the need of the five physical senses ,with what is perceived flashed across the mind/brain so one can have a recall of whatever one has experienced outside the body

This explanation is necessary because current brain theory says consciousness is controlled by the brain. That is true to a certain extent, but not completely true. It is within the physical body alone that consciousness requires a brain to operate the body. Outside the physical body it can operate unhindered by the brain. This is simple to understand but it is not understood by everyone. For instance, while in my car moving from one point to another, the car engine which acts as the 'brain' to make the car to move , but outside my car taking a stroll, I don't need the car and it's engine to move about. I can walk freely. Also I don't need my car mirror to view what is behind me . If I want to see anything I use my eyes.That is it.



Then for those born blind, how is it possible for some to have sight during NDE?

I already mentioned that what one experience outside their bodies is dependent one the individual's level of awareness.

So, a highly evolved soul who has lived before and still retain memories in their consciousness of what it means to see from a previous lifetime, may recall that experience and instantaneously make the adjustment to see something.

I understand the reason you have shared the above link. It is to support the idea that out of NDE or OBE are not real or are a product of hallucination.

Yes, majority of NDE experience are a product of hallucination caused by what one expect to see or experience if one finds himself outside their bodies.
Consciousness, the real being, while operating outside the human body, has the capacity to imstantenously experience anything it imagines or memories that it carries within it.

So ,a Christian, just like in a dream, may experience Jesus heaven, or hell during an NDE, and believes those experience are real without the understanding of what has caused it. And when the come out from the experience ,they are convinced and excited to report that heaven and hell are real.

A Muslim is expected to see something anything connected with their religion. For instance, 72 virgins with large eyes a massive breast to enjoy himself with.

Adherents of other religion, have NDEs that conforms to what they belief and expect to see.

One thing that is common with most people having NDE or OBE is that they have no control over what the experience. They are having the experience unconsciously and so cannot control it.

The other type of NDE or OBE is the one that comes with veridical vision; the experiencer has a direct perception of objective reality, that is, the person sees something that is actually there, and when they return back to their body, it is confirmed that what they witnessed from outside their body actually exist and it is not imagination.

This particular NDE or OBE is a mystery for scientist who investigate this phenomenon to explain. Some scientist who think it's not possible to have this sort of NDE because current brain theory in the sciences says it is possible to have consciousness operating outside the body, have written articles to shamelessly tag such experience as still hallucination, while ignoring the obvious truth that if the experiencer is able to see something that correspond to objective reality, while having that form of NDE, it can never be classified as hallucination.

But the honest ones simply say it is a mystery to them or they are unverified stories at this stage since they constrained by current scientific knowledge in accepting those kind of experience as real.

There have been studies conducted into making sense of this other kind of NDE, but it has yeided the much needed success. The reason, I already mentioned it, is that most ,if not all ,of the subjects used in those studies don't have any control over their NDE or OBE experience. This is something they do not put into investigation while conducting those investigation
But I can tell you that some scientist are aware of this factor, but the challenge is to get those who can consciously do OBE at will and have also learnt to control the experience to participate in the investigation. I know, this is not making an excuse for anyone, that those who can do OBE at will and have achieved will never submit themselves to such investigation .
The solution is to learn how to do OBE themselves, so they have a direct experience of what they are trying to understand. They things one can do to have OBEs.

One cannot be investigating something one says it is not possible which others have experienced, and still think they can conduct such investigation without biases It is not possible.

The scientists who are in a better position to investigate NDEs or OBEs are agnostics scientist, not atheist or theist as they both would struggle to prevent subjective biases from interfering with whatever conclusion they would arrive at.

If anyone wants to be sure that OBEs are real , then they way to go is to have the experience yourself. It won't take anything from you, but you gain by knowing the truth directly yourself. There are ways and methods to achieve this. The Internet has a lot of resources that you can lay your hands on, and boom you are out of your body. But I advised you look for somebody to teach you how to do this personally, as some of the methods available online can contain sublimal suggestion to may drag one into experiencing what is delusion and you think you have had an authentic experience.

There's much more to say concerning NDEs or OBEs. I think what I have been explaining should be enough for now.

KnownUnknown:
Then I’ll tell you about my experience in the Afterlife where my spirit will combine with my thetan.

Thanks. I not interested in listening to your delusion.

LordReed:
Triplechoice, Deepsight

How would your view on the mind question explain this:

In a remarkable breakthrough, scientists from Israel have discovered that they can use saliva samples to quickly and accurately diagnose people suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

In a study published in Nature’s Molecular Psychiatry magazine, researchers from Tel Aviv and Haifa Universities took saliva samples and investigated the psychological, social and medical conditions of about 200 Israeli veteran soldiers.

They discovered that soldiers who had experienced combat stress related reactions from Israel’s first war with Lebanon in 1982, and were still suffering post-trauma, showed a typical microbial picture in their saliva.

https://www.israel21c.org/study-ptsd-sufferers-share-bacterial-footprint-in-saliva/

The bacterial footprint found in the saliva is effect created by what goes on in the mind of those suffering from PTSD.

A diseased mind results in a diseased body and vice versa.

The mind is not something that is tangible or is it something located in a physical space inside of us. It's location is similar to our dream world that we experience each time we go to sleep, and it's known that what happens in our dreams sometimes affects our physical bodies through the brain.

While dreaming, we are most times drawn in to experiencing in pictures the thoughts inside our minds or brains if you prefer that, with what is experienced not viewed by others but ourselves alone..

So in summary, it should be understood that the mind is the inner mental construct that serves the being which has occupied a human body.

It is not something tangible, neither is it located in a physical space inside anyone

At death, mind is dissolved but memories contained in mind is retained in what is called the root consciousness, the real being.

It is for this reason some persons can recall
memories of their previous lives in a new body. Everyone who has lived before can recall their previous lifetime if they choose to. There are methods one can use to have this recall, and with what is recalled subjected to
some validation to ensure the individual is not just imagining things as a past life recall.

LordReed:
Triplechoice, Deepsight

How would your view on the mind question explain this:

In a remarkable breakthrough, scientists from Israel have discovered that they can use saliva samples to quickly and accurately diagnose people suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

In a study published in Nature’s Molecular Psychiatry magazine, researchers from Tel Aviv and Haifa Universities took saliva samples and investigated the psychological, social and medical conditions of about 200 Israeli veteran soldiers.

They discovered that soldiers who had experienced combat stress related reactions from Israel’s first war with Lebanon in 1982, and were still suffering post-trauma, showed a typical microbial picture in their saliva.

https://www.israel21c.org/study-ptsd-sufferers-share-bacterial-footprint-in-saliva/

Double post Sorry. Just deleted this

KnownUnknown:
Awww, my poor Buda. It must have been your thetan preventing the spirit from doing its job.

Next time when the light bulb in your room suddenly goes off, remove the dead bulb and stick your naked fingers into the sucket to test if it contains electric current.

Hope this make some sense?

TenQ:
How?
Is is not of matter, time or space.

My scientific knowledge tells me that Something/Someone Mysterious and Indescribable beyond space, time, matter and laws of physics set off the ball of the universe rolling.

Science does not Prove who or what the Uncaused First Cause is because science limits itself to AFTER the big bang.

If your scientific knowledge has told you that something/someone mysterious has set off the ball of the universe rolling, then is it the same science that has made you conclude that this mysterious something is an 'he' and not a she or it?

You have been using the personal pronoun,he, to describe this mysterious something. How do you know it is an he? Have you seen this 'he' before?

If one is going to agree with you that this mysterious something is an he, then it would be interesting to know what has created the body of this he if you think it has one.Did this he create or caused his own body and from what material?

Please don't quote the Bible in your reply. Stick to the science you have been using all along as it would not make any sense at this point to quote any religious text to prove that this mysterious something is an ,he or whatever

The re some religious groups who have argued that it is an "it" and not an 'he' that has set the ball of the universe rolling, and they can equally use the same argument as yours to prove this by simply substituting 'it' for 'he' wherever you have used it and it wouldn't make any difference.

So how did this mysterious something became an 'he' for you.

ICEKING95:
Until you can give a scientific meaning to Miracles and Divine Healing, don't tell me that God is not real!.. He Is Real.. Don't be Deceived

There's scientific explanation for what people experience as miracles and divine healing.

A little search on the net will reveal it to you

Maynman:
Of course everyone is born an atheist.
Ask a 6 baby what does “god” mean.

No one is born an atheist. The idea that everyone is born an atheist is a false narrative being pushed forward by some atheist who don't want to accept responsibility for the decision they have taken not to believe in a god without evidence.

They also want to create the impression that being an atheist is natural since we were all born that way. But this is not true.

I see it has shifting the blame for what they have chosen to become, and one needs to ask ,why? There's nothing really wrong in towing the part of reason over religious indoctrination.


Being an atheist is the personal conviction that deities do not exist and there is enough reason to take that postion.

Babies don't have such conviction yet. They're
born neutral and so can't be labelled as atheist, theist or anything else.

Apart from the religious God or gods presented to use by the different religion in our midst, nobody is sure if something that be liken to a God doesn't exist

So the correct thing is that babies are born neutral and not atheist

Templee333:
I didn't knw there a difference btw temple & centre

You didn't know because you didn't interact closely enough with them to know the difference.

Anyway ,continue with your story so others can learn from your experience.

Templee333:
INSIDE OF AN ECK TEMPLE
i've been inside only one eck temple & here's hw it looks like:
a large picture of the Mahanta (a whiteman) in suit & tie stands in the front,
a platform with a pulpit,chairs & table;
special seats 4 singers & another seats 4 some group of men/women i dont knw their title;
A general seat for the congregation;
in the back a large chat is pasted in which the worlds of eck is described: the name of each plane of existence,its ruler,sound & chant;
then a notice board is pasted in the back wall. There's a loudspeaker & microphone but didnt see band set except a keyboard. There's room for creativity so a man came with his flute & there was no problem.

I am not a member of eckankar ,but from what I know about the group, having associated with them in the past for a number of years I can correctly tell you that the place you described above is not an eckankar Temple but an eck centre where members and anyone, who is interested in joining them, meet for their worship service on sundays and other activities during the week

There's only one eck Temple In Nigeria and it's in Rumiugbo Port Harcourt.

Continue narrating your experience and don't allow what I just explained discourage you. I am following as I followed your Olumba experience.

Minime10:
In all their suggestions, it baffles me to note that, the Governors never suggested a cut to their monthly security votes, their car allawances, wodrope allawances, furniture allowance, medical trip allowances & side chics allowances etc.
How more useless can these bunch of APC idiots be

You forgot to add that some ex governors are earning unnecessary pension too. Some of the cutremt governors advising the federal government can't see anything wrong in that.because they too are looking forward to the time they will start earning their own pension.

A governer for 8 years will earn pension for life while someone who has put in over 30 years in the civil service will be paid off once and for all ,and in the voice of the governors "should go and die."

These governors are wicked

KingAzubuike:
So the next thing you could think of was juju?

No .I never thought juju.

KingAzubuike:
Try dey read ehn, it will help you alot. No be everything be juju. Even before reading , I knew it was some psycho that must have laced the bill with a bio weapon probably ricin .. anyways it was laced with fentanyl

You didn't read it too

From the story,there's no evidence the money was laced with fentany or any bio weapon.

UyaiIncomparabl:
I would never do the same. I have no right to choose for my sons. What my son wants is what I will let him choose. It's none of my business. Why should I care? They only have my blessings, that's all.

I also will never do stupid tests. I am too educated and modern for that. If any guy tries that with me, break up straight. Shows your family is poverty-ridden and minded.

You don't choose for your sons, but the rich don't want irresponsible people to be part of their family circle, and because of this, they show concern about the kind of relationship their children are into.

It is poor people like you who assume the rich don't care about certain things. You deceive yourself.

Your life is your responsibility, and not the world's

Learn to deal with the rejection you behavior has cost you, and stop crying.

You don't know me offline ,so keep you imagined poverty stricken life to yourself.

UyaiIncomparabl:
Dey use old tactics dey judge wife material. Emancipate yourselves from mental backwardness.

So you know the "old tactics" ?

In this part of the world especially, it's a cultural thing and not mental backwardness for most mothers to employ the "old tactics" to test if the girl their son is dating has good manners ,and also have respect for the elderly.

If the young lady had the awareness to read the intention of the woman, she would have understood that offering to help would not necessary mean that she would be given the broom just like that to continue the sweeping.

The response from the boy's mum would probably have been, "oh thank you. Don't bother let me sweep it myself"

Then, the girl has passed the test being aware of the motive behind it.



Mothers everywhere, not only in Nigeria, want a "good girl" for their male children, and would employ any tactics to achieve that.

So it's not mental backwardness. As a woman yourself, I believe you would do the same thing in the future, forgetting all your complains here. It may not be sweeping but anything else that your son's girlfriend would also not like.

If you don't want this sort of embarrassing situation as a girl, then ,don't date someone still living with their mum or sisters, especially in Nigeria. They would surely see one thing to complain about you, and test you all the time.

I don't see the reason for mocking the op.

No matter what anyone thinks, it is good thing that someone has changed from a chronic thief to one who now respects other peoples property.

This is not the first time this kind of thing has happened. I know of a relative who was once a terror to everyone, and surprisingly he changed from that to a better person when he started attending church. He never went back . It is was like a dream to everyone.

I am neither a Christian nor do I practice any religion, but I believe religion, provides a source of motivation for making certain decisions in life, whether good or bad.

In the case of the op, it is for the good. So what is wrong in trying to be a better person?

Dorakay93:
U are the Mr. Brain inside the skull of every rich person to know they won't think like that.
Is my comment about thinking or just an advice.

And you are the Mr brain to know how poor every poor person must behave so we should be extremely careful of them?

Dorakay93:
As a wealthy person, u have to be extremely careful when dealing with poor people, they may look innocent and harmless but they can betray, harm and disorganize you in seconds.....
Help them from far...
This poor Nwamini is an unstable idiot.

Someone who is truly wealthy wouldn't reason like you.

Both the rich and poor can be wicked

Jobola1:
These guys really believe they have a case even if they can prove d boy is 30years

Uncle Ike, it is criminal to buy or sell kidneys

Maybe to reduce the gravity of the offence in order to receive a lighter sentence

Is this the right thing under the law?

Why releasing the personal details of the young man to the Ekweramadus , instead of the police or the court in England that may demand for it later for age verification.

guobe:
I have a very close relation that refused his wife from working because he felt if she starts working and earning well she may nolonger regard him. Is it true that when women start having money they nolonger regard their husband.

Not completely true. It depends on the kind of woman.

Money is a powerful force. If you don't know how to control it, then it can make you say and do things you would not normally do, without you fully conscious of what you're doing

People usually say that a man's true character is only known once he becomes empowered financially.

I think your brother knows the kind of person he is married to, but however,he is overreacting. He should allow the woman work and try to find a way to deal with the situation by communicating with the wife about his concerns.

What your brother considers disregard is from his own point of view. The woman may not even see it that way. Her actions may seem disrespectful on the surface, but in her heart she highly regards him, if not why did she agree to marry him in the first place.

Kobojunkie:
Hypnagogic hallucination is symptom of possible mental or neurological problems. Telling someone who is sick that there is nothing wrong is deceit.

Not true what you have concluded. The link you shared is saying a different thing

maasoap:
I can only shake my head at your crooked way of reasoning.
The boy is insignificant in the eyes of moronic Nigerians like you and Ekweremadu and that's why he was targeted for organ harvest. But in the eyes of UK government, he's a human being worth protecting.
Ekweremadu is a diplomat but a criminal. Thank God, Oyinbos don't have worship mentality like you ignorant folks here.
Nnamdi Kanu is in detention and Nigeria government wouldn't entertain any move from UK (which I support anyway). But this is an opportunity for UK government too to fvck Nigeria government. Strong diplomatic tie my ass.
They don't stand a better chance, you should have seen what awaits them going by their bail denial.


Oh, the doctors should have proceeded anyway when they saw the discrepancies in the ages of the boy and what was on his passport? They should have gone ahead even when they realised that the kid either didn't know what he was about to do or didn't know that his decision was a life altering decision?
The boy is in UK government protective custody and his kidneys will be intact.
Your opinion is trash

Don't mind them. Someone whose kidney was about to be harvested to save the life of another is now an insignificant person.

That boy was about to be taking advantage of, 15 or 21 years old ,it doesn't matter. Nobody is going to tell me that he was aware of the full implication of donating a kidney at that age even if he gave his consent.

This is a clear case of trying to take advantage of an homeless innocent young boy who Iis ignorant and not well informed of the decision he was about to make.

He was also deliberately targeted because they knew he had know one to advise him. Nobody has heard from the boy's parents or siblings or relatives.

It is wicked exploitation .The Nigerian Senate should also be fighting for justice for the boy too

Wilgrea7:
Happy Sunday wonderful people.

When it comes to religion, especially in Nigeria, questioning your specific religion or beliefs is something that's usually frowned upon. In any civilized society, it definitely shouldn't be the case.

I'm not here to try and sway anyone away from what they believe in. I just want people who have questions to know its okay to have those questions. And if they're willing to seek answers objectively, its possible to do so too.

I'll also be creating some more topics on the different aspects of religion, and belief in God/gods in general, as time goes on.

My goal is to have honest, open-minded discussions on topics like this. Stay tuned for more. Peace

Questioning of beliefs happens all the time among religious people no matter where they are found.

The reason it may appear Nigerians don't question their beliefs is because of the large number of religious people in the country which keeps increasing everyday.

But the reason for this, is mostly situational; poverty and low quality education among others

Religious leaders are mostly the ones that discourage their congregation from questioning their beliefs for the obvious reason of what it would lead to.

At the individual level, beliefs are questioned all the time, but not having the courage to express it openly.

Beliefs and doubts exist side by side. You can't belief in something without you having the occasion to question it from time time. It is not possible.

LordReed:
For the first question can I take it that your answer is, yes it follows the laws we use to describe energy?

You didn't really answer the second question. I need you to explain the experience of heightened sensation in some senses when other senses are not in operation based on your model of consciousness.

I focused on the meditation part of your question because I thought you were asking the same thing.
There's a scientific explanation already for your question. I will talk on that briefly and then, proceed to give an explanation from my own viewpoint in order to show what happens between the two..

In science, it is explained that when you close your eyes to block out visual inputs, you tend to listen better because your attention is no longer divided, but is now wholly focused on verbal inputs, which are very difficult to mask , thereby making it much easier to "hear" clearly the true emotions and intentions behind the words spoken.

Visual inputs grab our attention the most, and can distract us, for instance, into accepting the lies(verbal inputs) being told by another.. A lot of people are good at throwing illusions at others through pretended facial gestures and other body languages to trick our minds into accepting as truth what they are telling us. So when you block out visual inputs, you're safe and can then listened better without any distraction. .This is the scientific explanation.



From my own position,, what you have called my model of consciousness, there's a huge difference because an individual who is fully aware of their true self is able to operate more consciously from that level of awareness than the average human being who does so unconsciously.

So, for those fully aware of their consciousness, closing eyes to shut out visual inputs, will sometimes lead not only to perceiving clearly true emotions and intentions , but also to have flashed across inner mental screen of the listener, the imageries behind the verbal cues. That is, one can "see" mentally the exact or some of the situation another person is describing as if one is there when it happened.

It is also possible sometimes to mentally "see" parts of the story that is deliberately left out by the other person.I have sometimes experienced this at different times in my life and it has saved me from being misled by others .

So, what is the explanation for this; what really causes it?

Consciousness, the force field of aware energy, the true being, moves by attention; where ever attention is placed, is where ones energy, consciousness ,moves to. Consciousness is multidimensional in nature; its not bounded by time and space.People have their consciousness tied to bodies because they accepted they're a body

So,a placement of attention ,by someone who is fully aware of their consciousness, on verbal cues, while shutting off visual cues can led to being drawn into experiencing ,seeing" the actual situation which those verbal cues represent, with the imageries from it flashed instantaneously across inner mental screen so it is stored in mind/brain for recollection if one needs to act on the information later

LordReed:
@ triplechoice

Question 1: this thing you say is energy, does it obey any of the laws of energy we use to describe the universe eg law of conservation of energy?

Is it created or can it be destroyed? It is neither created or destroyed..Modern quantum physics is begining to let us understand that the world and how it operates may be different from what is previously known; it may not be what we think .

.Energy ,that I am (my true self), is not created nor destroyed. If it can be destroyed, then , consciousness will not reincarnate.

Few persons are aware. of their previous life, while the majority of people are not aware. It is not easy to remember everything in one's present life not to talk of a past life.

However, one can remember their previous life if one chooses to. The re things that can be done to have a past life recalll to prove that one's consciousness has existed before in another body.

The claims I make, are not supported by science, that is ,scientists in the main body of science, except independent scientists working on their own, have not conducted any research to verify them, but it doesn't mean they are not true..

The re truths that people know of that are not yet proven by scientists.This could be due to non interest in investigating it or the limitations of the scientific nethod which makes it impossible to verify such claims.

However, ,this doesn't mean that one should just accept whatever anyone says is true with the excuse that scientists are yet prove or disprove it..

Question 2: why does your listening experience improve when you close your eyes or why do you meditate better in a silent and dark place? Why does your ability to utilise one sense increase the less input your brain is receiving?

For the above, one needs to be careful so as to avoid accepting other people's experience as your own and start living it. This can happen to those who don't know how to determine "facts from fiction"

Surprisingly, there are people who can visualize better with their eyes open than when closed, contrary to the usual advice to close it while doing so.

So imagine you're one of such persons who can visualize better with eyes open being advised to close it so you can do it better. If you follow that advice, you will not do it right unless you revert to what you can do naturally; eyes open

Some people teach that a silent and dark place is necessary for a good meditation experience. While there is some element truth in this, it is not completely true. Some people can meditate anywhere and anytime, but this usually comes with mastery.

There are others who without any form of mastery are naturally able to shut out their immediate environment and focus on what they do.

So its usually and individual thing concerning some of these things and not that it is so for everyone. One needs to use different approach to determine what is comfortable and works best and not because another person or expert says so .

Finally, there are other cognitive abilities that we possess which are not brain based. I know some people have already disagreed with this statement and may come for my head later.

When the input that comes through the brain is reduced, especially during sleep these abilities become fully operatiional and enables us to do things that we can't do in our normal waking state with our brains fully active..

At this point, it is our true self, the consciousness within, that's now free to express itself unhindered by brain.that seeks to control our behavior when we are awake.

I have said before that dreams are the experiences our true self has when our bodies are at rest, with the experiences flashed or recorded in our brains as dreams using the images embedded it so we can remember those experiences when we wake up.

Brains don't create dreams, if not ,Lucid dreams will not happen. Lucid dreams are when you become conscious in your dream that you're dreaming and start to act as if awake. If brains create dreams, this can't be possible.

Some people usually have dreams of precognition . The human brain is incapable if such function according to current brain theory in the sciences. This is the reason when one report dreams of such nature to others,, some people who don't understand the reason scientists reject such dreams, will unthinkingly says it happens by chance or coincidence.

But that is not true. scientists are not in a position right now to know exactly what goes on subjectively within ourselves. They don't have the tools to peer further other than to make inferences from observable brain activities which doesn't reveal everything.

So when there's less brain input coming from the outside, other cognitive abilities that we have, as consciousness within, usually come alive with the results from these abilities flashed across our mental screen so we can make use of these information if we need to. But we usually ignore this info for what is already contained in our limited rational mind/brain

All of these that I have explained will only make sense if we can accept we are not the bodies we occupy. However, whether we accept or not, it doesn't stop us from having those experiences . But ..........

Who was recording it ?

budaatum:
Triple, please, you called me here when you mentioned me, and I saw some level of brain use and engaged.

If you had written nonsense as you think I think, I very gladly would have ignored you like I ignore thousands of posts on here. But what you wrote is not nonsense, just that you have not exactly thought it through with the rigour such topics require and you would not listen to views that oppose your own but want us to park our minds aside and not use it to engage and critique what you've expressed.

That won't stop us expressing it however, as you can clearly see. You can run but you can't hide your mind from engaging, and you'd see what I mean when I appear to your mind in your dreams.

You have no such power to enter my dreams.

You're deluded surely and its just a matter of time.
Go an practice your witchcraft with your family members. I have no business with you

HellVictorinho4:
Your mother , just another bastard,asked for information from budaatum but she refused to confirm your claim that I was begging you to change your mind

I am begging you to be more stupid than a deranged bitch instead of confused ostrich.


People should work and throw money on your mother's grave because budaatum feels your mother deserves it



Go and work and feed your mother wherever she is

Scammer you want me to expose you again. How you wanted to scam damiloladuke in the give away thread with your Elanozy and crystano monikers you have since deactivated?

You did that this year . After crying all over the place that I lied about you.
Since last year till now you still on the same game and you say I am responsible for your problems.
No shishi for you again. You are known already

And if you're not a coward you would stopped insulting your mother hiding behind your phone.

Reveal your exact location in Ikorodu if you think you're brave enough.

budaatum:
You do want to be believed triple, and you are frustrated when we don't believe you, and you've obviously failed to see what I have presented, which is precisely what believers do, cover their eyes so they see not.

Sense use is required, but you think your senses are not up to the task so you don't seem to bother using them and you think we'd be lazy like you and not use our senses, until now that you've tested and found out otherwise, yet you fail to accept what you've witnessed with your own senses, which is that we are not taking your subjective expressions for this because we have our own subjective experience and they seem to be very different to your's.

It's why I love threads like these. You will forever be reminded of how you reacted to reactions to your subjective expressions and hopefully learn from it.

Speak for yourself buda. Nairaland has millions of people following comments.
They see all I have written and have ignored it for their own personal reasons.

But for you, it seems cognitive dissonance is affecting you , hence your strong reactions.

Something is certainly wrong, if not why can't you ignore.

I even issued a disclaimer at the beginning, or you don't know what a disclaimer is?

Let me help you.Banks in this country normally place disclaimers in the parking space provided for their customers to let you know that your decision to use it is yours alone

Now ,you saw this disclaimer and parked. Later when you return, and find your car stolen you want to blame the bank for providing parking space and threaten to sue them .You will never win that case.

You decided to respond to my thoughts which I dont want to force on anyone .I have not threatened you with hell fire or anything to accept my opinions.

It is your karma how you feel right now. It is not my fault. Go seek professional help if my thoughts has caused some mental abberations for you.
Sorry sir. Please take care of yourself.
I won't respond to you again so it doesn't become worst for you.

KnownUnknown:
So your schtick is based on brain states to wit dreams and hallucinations that are wholly dependent on cultural norms or religious beliefs of the person have the “OBE”. Even though your position is dependent on the brain, you then introduce all kinds of unverifiable claims to suggest otherwise while appealing to some vague “scientists” and simultaneously claiming “I don’t care how scientists approach it for now”. Hackneyed..

I was referring to some of the methods used, as I don't find it good enough to other methods I know.

Is not what you think, my reaction there

HellVictorinho4:
See the werey that claimed to know me after the same buda told him nothing useful about me


Now complaining of being misconsidered


I know your fellow bastards will celebrate you with your disgusting hypocrisy

You were asked to provide information about yourself to confirm your claims since you were begging. But you refused.

I am not begging anyone for anything here, so don't compare yourself with me.

People should just throw money at you because you're entitled to it.

Go and work and feed yourself