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UyaiIncomparabl:
Dey use old tactics dey judge wife material. Emancipate yourselves from mental backwardness.

So you know the "old tactics" ?

In this part of the world especially, it's a cultural thing and not mental backwardness for most mothers to employ the "old tactics" to test if the girl their son is dating has good manners ,and also have respect for the elderly.

If the young lady had the awareness to read the intention of the woman, she would have understood that offering to help would not necessary mean that she would be given the broom just like that to continue the sweeping.

The response from the boy's mum would probably have been, "oh thank you. Don't bother let me sweep it myself"

Then, the girl has passed the test being aware of the motive behind it.



Mothers everywhere, not only in Nigeria, want a "good girl" for their male children, and would employ any tactics to achieve that.

So it's not mental backwardness. As a woman yourself, I believe you would do the same thing in the future, forgetting all your complains here. It may not be sweeping but anything else that your son's girlfriend would also not like.

If you don't want this sort of embarrassing situation as a girl, then ,don't date someone still living with their mum or sisters, especially in Nigeria. They would surely see one thing to complain about you, and test you all the time.

I don't see the reason for mocking the op.

No matter what anyone thinks, it is good thing that someone has changed from a chronic thief to one who now respects other peoples property.

This is not the first time this kind of thing has happened. I know of a relative who was once a terror to everyone, and surprisingly he changed from that to a better person when he started attending church. He never went back . It is was like a dream to everyone.

I am neither a Christian nor do I practice any religion, but I believe religion, provides a source of motivation for making certain decisions in life, whether good or bad.

In the case of the op, it is for the good. So what is wrong in trying to be a better person?

Dorakay93:
U are the Mr. Brain inside the skull of every rich person to know they won't think like that.
Is my comment about thinking or just an advice.

And you are the Mr brain to know how poor every poor person must behave so we should be extremely careful of them?

Dorakay93:
As a wealthy person, u have to be extremely careful when dealing with poor people, they may look innocent and harmless but they can betray, harm and disorganize you in seconds.....
Help them from far...
This poor Nwamini is an unstable idiot.

Someone who is truly wealthy wouldn't reason like you.

Both the rich and poor can be wicked

Jobola1:
These guys really believe they have a case even if they can prove d boy is 30years

Uncle Ike, it is criminal to buy or sell kidneys

Maybe to reduce the gravity of the offence in order to receive a lighter sentence

Is this the right thing under the law?

Why releasing the personal details of the young man to the Ekweramadus , instead of the police or the court in England that may demand for it later for age verification.

guobe:
I have a very close relation that refused his wife from working because he felt if she starts working and earning well she may nolonger regard him. Is it true that when women start having money they nolonger regard their husband.

Not completely true. It depends on the kind of woman.

Money is a powerful force. If you don't know how to control it, then it can make you say and do things you would not normally do, without you fully conscious of what you're doing

People usually say that a man's true character is only known once he becomes empowered financially.

I think your brother knows the kind of person he is married to, but however,he is overreacting. He should allow the woman work and try to find a way to deal with the situation by communicating with the wife about his concerns.

What your brother considers disregard is from his own point of view. The woman may not even see it that way. Her actions may seem disrespectful on the surface, but in her heart she highly regards him, if not why did she agree to marry him in the first place.

Kobojunkie:
Hypnagogic hallucination is symptom of possible mental or neurological problems. Telling someone who is sick that there is nothing wrong is deceit.

Not true what you have concluded. The link you shared is saying a different thing

maasoap:
I can only shake my head at your crooked way of reasoning.
The boy is insignificant in the eyes of moronic Nigerians like you and Ekweremadu and that's why he was targeted for organ harvest. But in the eyes of UK government, he's a human being worth protecting.
Ekweremadu is a diplomat but a criminal. Thank God, Oyinbos don't have worship mentality like you ignorant folks here.
Nnamdi Kanu is in detention and Nigeria government wouldn't entertain any move from UK (which I support anyway). But this is an opportunity for UK government too to fvck Nigeria government. Strong diplomatic tie my ass.
They don't stand a better chance, you should have seen what awaits them going by their bail denial.


Oh, the doctors should have proceeded anyway when they saw the discrepancies in the ages of the boy and what was on his passport? They should have gone ahead even when they realised that the kid either didn't know what he was about to do or didn't know that his decision was a life altering decision?
The boy is in UK government protective custody and his kidneys will be intact.
Your opinion is trash

Don't mind them. Someone whose kidney was about to be harvested to save the life of another is now an insignificant person.

That boy was about to be taking advantage of, 15 or 21 years old ,it doesn't matter. Nobody is going to tell me that he was aware of the full implication of donating a kidney at that age even if he gave his consent.

This is a clear case of trying to take advantage of an homeless innocent young boy who Iis ignorant and not well informed of the decision he was about to make.

He was also deliberately targeted because they knew he had know one to advise him. Nobody has heard from the boy's parents or siblings or relatives.

It is wicked exploitation .The Nigerian Senate should also be fighting for justice for the boy too

Wilgrea7:
Happy Sunday wonderful people.

When it comes to religion, especially in Nigeria, questioning your specific religion or beliefs is something that's usually frowned upon. In any civilized society, it definitely shouldn't be the case.

I'm not here to try and sway anyone away from what they believe in. I just want people who have questions to know its okay to have those questions. And if they're willing to seek answers objectively, its possible to do so too.

I'll also be creating some more topics on the different aspects of religion, and belief in God/gods in general, as time goes on.

My goal is to have honest, open-minded discussions on topics like this. Stay tuned for more. Peace

Questioning of beliefs happens all the time among religious people no matter where they are found.

The reason it may appear Nigerians don't question their beliefs is because of the large number of religious people in the country which keeps increasing everyday.

But the reason for this, is mostly situational; poverty and low quality education among others

Religious leaders are mostly the ones that discourage their congregation from questioning their beliefs for the obvious reason of what it would lead to.

At the individual level, beliefs are questioned all the time, but not having the courage to express it openly.

Beliefs and doubts exist side by side. You can't belief in something without you having the occasion to question it from time time. It is not possible.

LordReed:
For the first question can I take it that your answer is, yes it follows the laws we use to describe energy?

You didn't really answer the second question. I need you to explain the experience of heightened sensation in some senses when other senses are not in operation based on your model of consciousness.

I focused on the meditation part of your question because I thought you were asking the same thing.
There's a scientific explanation already for your question. I will talk on that briefly and then, proceed to give an explanation from my own viewpoint in order to show what happens between the two..

In science, it is explained that when you close your eyes to block out visual inputs, you tend to listen better because your attention is no longer divided, but is now wholly focused on verbal inputs, which are very difficult to mask , thereby making it much easier to "hear" clearly the true emotions and intentions behind the words spoken.

Visual inputs grab our attention the most, and can distract us, for instance, into accepting the lies(verbal inputs) being told by another.. A lot of people are good at throwing illusions at others through pretended facial gestures and other body languages to trick our minds into accepting as truth what they are telling us. So when you block out visual inputs, you're safe and can then listened better without any distraction. .This is the scientific explanation.



From my own position,, what you have called my model of consciousness, there's a huge difference because an individual who is fully aware of their true self is able to operate more consciously from that level of awareness than the average human being who does so unconsciously.

So, for those fully aware of their consciousness, closing eyes to shut out visual inputs, will sometimes lead not only to perceiving clearly true emotions and intentions , but also to have flashed across inner mental screen of the listener, the imageries behind the verbal cues. That is, one can "see" mentally the exact or some of the situation another person is describing as if one is there when it happened.

It is also possible sometimes to mentally "see" parts of the story that is deliberately left out by the other person.I have sometimes experienced this at different times in my life and it has saved me from being misled by others .

So, what is the explanation for this; what really causes it?

Consciousness, the force field of aware energy, the true being, moves by attention; where ever attention is placed, is where ones energy, consciousness ,moves to. Consciousness is multidimensional in nature; its not bounded by time and space.People have their consciousness tied to bodies because they accepted they're a body

So,a placement of attention ,by someone who is fully aware of their consciousness, on verbal cues, while shutting off visual cues can led to being drawn into experiencing ,seeing" the actual situation which those verbal cues represent, with the imageries from it flashed instantaneously across inner mental screen so it is stored in mind/brain for recollection if one needs to act on the information later

LordReed:
@ triplechoice

Question 1: this thing you say is energy, does it obey any of the laws of energy we use to describe the universe eg law of conservation of energy?

Is it created or can it be destroyed? It is neither created or destroyed..Modern quantum physics is begining to let us understand that the world and how it operates may be different from what is previously known; it may not be what we think .

.Energy ,that I am (my true self), is not created nor destroyed. If it can be destroyed, then , consciousness will not reincarnate.

Few persons are aware. of their previous life, while the majority of people are not aware. It is not easy to remember everything in one's present life not to talk of a past life.

However, one can remember their previous life if one chooses to. The re things that can be done to have a past life recalll to prove that one's consciousness has existed before in another body.

The claims I make, are not supported by science, that is ,scientists in the main body of science, except independent scientists working on their own, have not conducted any research to verify them, but it doesn't mean they are not true..

The re truths that people know of that are not yet proven by scientists.This could be due to non interest in investigating it or the limitations of the scientific nethod which makes it impossible to verify such claims.

However, ,this doesn't mean that one should just accept whatever anyone says is true with the excuse that scientists are yet prove or disprove it..

Question 2: why does your listening experience improve when you close your eyes or why do you meditate better in a silent and dark place? Why does your ability to utilise one sense increase the less input your brain is receiving?

For the above, one needs to be careful so as to avoid accepting other people's experience as your own and start living it. This can happen to those who don't know how to determine "facts from fiction"

Surprisingly, there are people who can visualize better with their eyes open than when closed, contrary to the usual advice to close it while doing so.

So imagine you're one of such persons who can visualize better with eyes open being advised to close it so you can do it better. If you follow that advice, you will not do it right unless you revert to what you can do naturally; eyes open

Some people teach that a silent and dark place is necessary for a good meditation experience. While there is some element truth in this, it is not completely true. Some people can meditate anywhere and anytime, but this usually comes with mastery.

There are others who without any form of mastery are naturally able to shut out their immediate environment and focus on what they do.

So its usually and individual thing concerning some of these things and not that it is so for everyone. One needs to use different approach to determine what is comfortable and works best and not because another person or expert says so .

Finally, there are other cognitive abilities that we possess which are not brain based. I know some people have already disagreed with this statement and may come for my head later.

When the input that comes through the brain is reduced, especially during sleep these abilities become fully operatiional and enables us to do things that we can't do in our normal waking state with our brains fully active..

At this point, it is our true self, the consciousness within, that's now free to express itself unhindered by brain.that seeks to control our behavior when we are awake.

I have said before that dreams are the experiences our true self has when our bodies are at rest, with the experiences flashed or recorded in our brains as dreams using the images embedded it so we can remember those experiences when we wake up.

Brains don't create dreams, if not ,Lucid dreams will not happen. Lucid dreams are when you become conscious in your dream that you're dreaming and start to act as if awake. If brains create dreams, this can't be possible.

Some people usually have dreams of precognition . The human brain is incapable if such function according to current brain theory in the sciences. This is the reason when one report dreams of such nature to others,, some people who don't understand the reason scientists reject such dreams, will unthinkingly says it happens by chance or coincidence.

But that is not true. scientists are not in a position right now to know exactly what goes on subjectively within ourselves. They don't have the tools to peer further other than to make inferences from observable brain activities which doesn't reveal everything.

So when there's less brain input coming from the outside, other cognitive abilities that we have, as consciousness within, usually come alive with the results from these abilities flashed across our mental screen so we can make use of these information if we need to. But we usually ignore this info for what is already contained in our limited rational mind/brain

All of these that I have explained will only make sense if we can accept we are not the bodies we occupy. However, whether we accept or not, it doesn't stop us from having those experiences . But ..........

Who was recording it ?

budaatum:
Triple, please, you called me here when you mentioned me, and I saw some level of brain use and engaged.

If you had written nonsense as you think I think, I very gladly would have ignored you like I ignore thousands of posts on here. But what you wrote is not nonsense, just that you have not exactly thought it through with the rigour such topics require and you would not listen to views that oppose your own but want us to park our minds aside and not use it to engage and critique what you've expressed.

That won't stop us expressing it however, as you can clearly see. You can run but you can't hide your mind from engaging, and you'd see what I mean when I appear to your mind in your dreams.

You have no such power to enter my dreams.

You're deluded surely and its just a matter of time.
Go an practice your witchcraft with your family members. I have no business with you

HellVictorinho4:
Your mother , just another bastard,asked for information from budaatum but she refused to confirm your claim that I was begging you to change your mind

I am begging you to be more stupid than a deranged bitch instead of confused ostrich.


People should work and throw money on your mother's grave because budaatum feels your mother deserves it



Go and work and feed your mother wherever she is

Scammer you want me to expose you again. How you wanted to scam damiloladuke in the give away thread with your Elanozy and crystano monikers you have since deactivated?

You did that this year . After crying all over the place that I lied about you.
Since last year till now you still on the same game and you say I am responsible for your problems.
No shishi for you again. You are known already

And if you're not a coward you would stopped insulting your mother hiding behind your phone.

Reveal your exact location in Ikorodu if you think you're brave enough.

budaatum:
You do want to be believed triple, and you are frustrated when we don't believe you, and you've obviously failed to see what I have presented, which is precisely what believers do, cover their eyes so they see not.

Sense use is required, but you think your senses are not up to the task so you don't seem to bother using them and you think we'd be lazy like you and not use our senses, until now that you've tested and found out otherwise, yet you fail to accept what you've witnessed with your own senses, which is that we are not taking your subjective expressions for this because we have our own subjective experience and they seem to be very different to your's.

It's why I love threads like these. You will forever be reminded of how you reacted to reactions to your subjective expressions and hopefully learn from it.

Speak for yourself buda. Nairaland has millions of people following comments.
They see all I have written and have ignored it for their own personal reasons.

But for you, it seems cognitive dissonance is affecting you , hence your strong reactions.

Something is certainly wrong, if not why can't you ignore.

I even issued a disclaimer at the beginning, or you don't know what a disclaimer is?

Let me help you.Banks in this country normally place disclaimers in the parking space provided for their customers to let you know that your decision to use it is yours alone

Now ,you saw this disclaimer and parked. Later when you return, and find your car stolen you want to blame the bank for providing parking space and threaten to sue them .You will never win that case.

You decided to respond to my thoughts which I dont want to force on anyone .I have not threatened you with hell fire or anything to accept my opinions.

It is your karma how you feel right now. It is not my fault. Go seek professional help if my thoughts has caused some mental abberations for you.
Sorry sir. Please take care of yourself.
I won't respond to you again so it doesn't become worst for you.

KnownUnknown:
So your schtick is based on brain states to wit dreams and hallucinations that are wholly dependent on cultural norms or religious beliefs of the person have the “OBE”. Even though your position is dependent on the brain, you then introduce all kinds of unverifiable claims to suggest otherwise while appealing to some vague “scientists” and simultaneously claiming “I don’t care how scientists approach it for now”. Hackneyed..

I was referring to some of the methods used, as I don't find it good enough to other methods I know.

Is not what you think, my reaction there

HellVictorinho4:
See the werey that claimed to know me after the same buda told him nothing useful about me


Now complaining of being misconsidered


I know your fellow bastards will celebrate you with your disgusting hypocrisy

You were asked to provide information about yourself to confirm your claims since you were begging. But you refused.

I am not begging anyone for anything here, so don't compare yourself with me.

People should just throw money at you because you're entitled to it.

Go and work and feed yourself

budaatum:
He obviously doesn't care that we would use our senses to engage with what he presents and wants us to believe him like he believes those who told him what he's expressing.

Now, if he understood that we are subjects with our own subjective minds perhaps he'd refrain from presenting his own subjective understandings and expressions as if they were objective as in not subjective to himself.

I hope you learn from the person you have quoted. He has is own perspective, on the issued been discussed and he just shared it with me.

You don't have anything to present, hence you think I want you to just believe me

Use your head so you don't fall for anything

KnownUnknown:
So your schtick is based on brain states to wit dreams and hallucinations that are wholly dependent on cultural norms or religious beliefs of the person have the “OBE”. Even though your position is dependent on the brain, you then introduce all kinds of unverifiable claims to suggest otherwise while appealing to some vague “scientists” and simultaneously claiming “I don’t care how scientists approach it for now”. Hackneyed.

Whatever you like to say. I never said dreams dont need brains.

How do you remember your dreams if your brains are not involved.

I would like to learn from you your own perspective on dreams and how you have been working with the dreams you have every night

What are dreams?

Why do we dream?

Why do some people have dreams of precognition.

Do dreams have any relevance in our lives?

Is it possible to interpret one's dream to understand them?

budaatum:
Have you heard of confirmation bias? Its like glasses one wears that distorts what one is looking at and might have influenced you "before reading". I mean, see how many times you've misinterpreted what I've written.

There are far too many faults in your perspective, triple, that they jump out at one without one looking, but of course you would not accept that perhaps because your own "the knowledge from my own personally experience" is the only knowledge and experience that can possibly be had and anyone else's "knowledge from my own personally experience" is not worth your time or consideration especially if it contradicts your own "knowledge from my own personally experience".

Another judgmental template, confirmation bias, which has stopped you from thinking.

Not every personal experience can teach you something, some can misled you, but some can, especially when you how ti validate your experiences. It is those who don't know that are victims of confirmation bias.

I thought you were smart, but you continue to disappoint me and I think others following


You don't know the sort of experiences I have had in life and the methods I have used to confirm what to accept and reject.

I have had experiences which I have discarded since I know how to confirm what is true or not.

If you don't how to determine if the experiences you have had can be relied on or abandoned, then confirmation bias may misled you into accepting the wrong thing.

So ,buda stop using judgemental templates you don't fully understand as you will exposed your ignorance.
Please go and educate yourself. You ignorance is stinking

It is better to ignore you as you're trying to come through the back door to start your nonsense again.
Your mind is working in the groove of mindless criticism. You can't stop yourself

KnownUnknown:
You managed to say absolutely nothing.

I also love how people like you always cite “scientists” while also eschewing science. This is because most of your opinions are handed down by some “authority” or the other so you think everyone depends on authority to arrive at knowledge.

I did that to prove it also something scientists are aware of ,and not spiritual as you once concluded concerning OBE. I don't really care how scientist approach it for now


I don't follow the methods shared in that article as I don't find them effective enough compared to what I know. But if they were better than what I use ,I would follow those ones and abandon mine

If I had proceeded just like that I suspect you would accuse me like buda of coning up with crap in my head.
And wait, does it really matter what any authority says if one can prove it works?

Why don't you learn you how to work with your dreams to confirm if true, instead of thinking it is just what is believed

And concerning eschewing science, you have concluded wrongly. I don't avoid science but insist it has limitations which most blind followers of the sciences are not aware.

For those ones, they are not different from religious fanatics who believe everything as true, without questioning .

budaatum:
Don't you think this applies to your very self?

Where have you shown any interest in anyone's views or sought to understand anyone's perspective? Is it not true that you are hell bent on promoting your own perspective which you've admitted is not really your own perspective and which you never checked before adopting?

You will grow, Triple.

You're have been finding faults, judging and condescending, without showing any genuine interest in anything I have discussed.

If you are genuinely interested and not just to condemn, you should by now by telling everyone contrary facts that nullifies my position.

For instance, if someday describe life in Lagos, and you know it is not completely true, what you do then, is to tell the person the actual "story " of life in Lagos, since you know it better than the person.
But when you fail to do that, what do you expect people to think of you?

It means you don't know about much about life in Lagos but you are just chronic sceptic, who doubts everything to extent of doubting himself if he is awake or asleep

Please concentrate on the religious people you like to troll as blind believers on this board.

You refute yourself each time when you say I just believe things without confirming them to be true.

You are also believing ,without evidence or much knowledge about me that I believe without ,confirming anything. That's how you refute yourself.

You don't much about me; what I have done, the experience I have had and anything other thing.about me.
It's about time you abandoned this your god complex as it is not helping you at all.

budaatum:
I can see now why you are discouraged, triple. You are pastoring to us expecting we'd believe you but your pastoring is hitting against the use of our minds.

These are not your own knowledge gathered with your own senses, but you'd like us to follow your lead anyway! Do we sound like mindless mumus to you or something, and don't you think you should rigorously check your knowledge before presenting it to us?

You got work to do dude, with your senses.

Not my knowledge alone I actually wanted to say. I already had the knowledge from my own personally experience ,before reading about some of them years later elsewhere to see that I was not just deluding myself.

Other people also arrived at the same thing almost the same way I did.
And even now, what I know long ago to be true is what scientists are starting to investigate since the evidences is becoming overwhelming for them not to ignore. Some people are born with certain skills and abilities which they never learnt from anyone. If you don't know this, then you're ignorant

So , buda, stop looking for faults

Being genuinely interested in another person's points of view and seeking to fully understand their perspective lessens the level of judgement and creates greater relationship harmony. Copied.

budaatum:
No I never! Or you at least never responded when I asked you what you'd say if your daughter dreamt she was a man, but I will question you now?



Do you believe the authors daughter and the animals were in a spaceship that she realised was a washing machine, triple?

Oh my God
Dreams sceneries and imageries are not to taken for real. They represent something.

That you should decode yourself

And if not that your attention is fully focused on judging ,you can't fail to miss that the dream serve to inspire the daughter to write a story from it

None accepted that the dream was a real event except you

budaatum:
No I never! Or you at least never responded when I asked you what you'd say if your daughter dreamt she was a man, but I will question you now?



Do you believe the authors daughter and the animals were in a spaceship that she realised was a washing machine, triple?

I said it's from a scientific perspective, not my conclusion.

You can study your dreams yourself to confirm.

Or don't you dream?

budaatum:
Of course it is my choice not to follow triple who is just following what he was told and believes without bothering to check it's veracity.

I am Eve, triple, not Adam!

Another judgemental rant from you that believes I am just following what I read or was told.
What do you know about me? Omniscient buda?

If you don't want to eat the forbidden fruit to open your eyes, can't force you. You know it all

budaatum:
What are the "methods we have used to prove them true", triple.

I'd like to see how you went about it please so I can check if they are true with my own senses.

You already started questioning me on one of them. Like you forget.

Here is from a scientific perspective

https://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frym.2019.00140

budaatum:
Demonstrate for myself as opposed to just accepting what triple says, you mean? Yes, I have heard it several times and I expect to hear it from you someday.

Have you not just described what buda and others have been doing all along with you who "used to think" how you think now but would think better when you use your senses to consider the responses you are getting?

But no. Triple expects us to follow the leads of triple as if we were all born tomorrow and have no experiences or knowledge or leads we have followed to where we are today.

What you choose to follow or not follow is your choice.

KnownUnknown:
Please, present a couple of methods.

I already shared one. It is there in my presentation if you go back to it.

The reception to that has discouraged me not to share anything further.. There are not my own knowledge. I have no exclusive right to them.

Just follow the lead I have given to research the others for yourself

Nothing about them is magical

budaatum:
No one is saying an analogy should be perfect! Fact remains that a phone is not a part of one as one's senses are. You can't go into your bathroom without your senses.

The phone represent something. The phone represent my body and the mechanism that keeps its system running.
While me, represent the being that has not emerged from the phone but is "inside" of it and using it.
I have used it to show the sort of relationship the exist between myself and the body I occupy.
Without the phone and its mechanism I can't function inside of it. There won't be any point to occupy it in the first.
When there is a call coming in , the phone detects the signal and alerts mechanically that I have a call. The phone , body, doesn't know the meaning of a call it is just reacting to its programming.
I , the owner the phone, (body )is the only entity that is conscious of what is going on.
If the phone becomes dead, I move out of it to occupy another body.

This is what I am trying to get across and not just a normal phone user and his device. Of course, I don't expect you to accept all of these explanation for obvious reason.

I wish you would not forget this. The limitations are not your's alone, both in expressing and in understanding. We must however do the best we can to express and understand.

I am usually conscious of this.

No one is asking you to rely on anything about your consciousness, triple. It is your consciousness, it is subjective to you alone. It is not objectively observable to us, and only ignorantly can we be telling you anything about your consciousness.

We are talking about consciousness in general, triple, and not the consciousness of triple, and there's no harm considering the opinion of those who may have spent a lot more time on consciousness than us such that they may seem like science students compared to us non-science students, as far as this topic goes.

Whatever we think of ourselves is what we express, but we must be sure that what we think of ourselves is the correct thing ,if not ,we would act on the wrong one
How can we know the correct thing to think of who we are? That's the question

I'm glad you say so. Thankfully, no scientist is telling me to rely on any template of what it is to be human, and if they were I'd likely not listen since I prefer to use my own senses to decide my own humaness.


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Sorry triple, but I am buda, and not a "lot of people these days are getting confused", and if I stubbornly insist on "relying on the template of science alone", which thankfully I'm far too able to not do, then I am a fool and I do not think I would live very long for it is far better for me to use my own senses to do my own science than to rely on the science done by another with their own senses.

An exaggeration by me, but that doesn't mean some persons are not confused about who they are