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LordReed:
Hi DeepSight. So this thread will carry on with our discussions from other threads. I will start with the following reply to your comment. I will also subsequently add replies to your other comments.



Oh the analogy is very apt. A driverless car acts just as directed as though a human being was driving it because all its integrated systems work to provide a safe driving experience with all the same features of a human driven vehicle. The car will brake, turn, slow down, speed up, allow for car spacing from cars in front of it, follow lane markings, etc just as well as a human. It would be futile to now say that because you cannot locate the driver inside therefore it is unable to function without a driver.

Also driverless cars do have seats and steering and all the other accoutrements that a "normal" car has so the question would be how do we distinguish between a driverless car and a human driven one? Which is directly analogous to the question how do we establish that a human being is "a machine suited to house and facilitate the experience and activity of a resident "being."" rather than the machine with all its attendant functions as an integrated whole?

I am afraid your analogy is not apt.

Even though driverless cars can operate as if a human being is driving it, they can't, at this moment, operate exactly as human driven ones.

The reason is due to the attendant problems or limitations which comes with such car models..

For instance, during extreme weather conditions, heavy rain fall, fog, snow etc, when visibility is very low, the cameras fitted into driverless cars to enable it observe road markings as it moves from point A to B becomes virtually useless. During such situations , it takes direct human intervention to be able ro navigate the driverless car to it's destination.


Also,, a driverless car unlike a human driven one, can't decide the correct decision to make between two bad choices.

When a car driven by a human being is suddenly faced with some school kids who have strayed into the road carelessly, the person behind the steering wheel can decide correctly to swerve away from hitting the human obstacle to an electric pole by the road side in order to save lives. The damage to the car can be taken of later.

But a driverless car faced with the same situation would obviously not act the same way as a human driven one. It would not know what to prioritize between the human obstacle and the electric pole. Avoiding the school children would only happen by chance .

There are other limitations too.

But I am sure you can see from what I already explained that there can be know comparison between the two car models and for this I don't think it is necessary any more to answer the question you asked at the end of your post.

Candidlady:
Dad imade it even in your absence


A shade at the dad or what

Don't think it is a shade at the dad.

I believe she is celebrating the fact that she made it through school as a virgin without the monitoring presence of her dad.

Most parents in this part of the world are usually worried when a girl of about 15 is leaving home for university.

And considering the value that is usually placed on virginity by some of those parents, they hope and even admonish their daughters to remain a virgin until after graduation.

I know of a father who promised the daughter a car if she can keep her virginity throughout her university days. She did and the dad kept to his promise.
So I believe for this young lady, her case may not be too different hence the reason for the celebration.

The ref should be withdrawn immediately from AFcon and investigated for this shambolic officiating

Very embarrassing .

Useless coach that made our national team football uninteresting to watch.

Westerhoof had no stars to work with but in the end turned some of our local players into super stars.

hupernikao:
1. Joshua was never wrong with the science and knowledge of their days. Judging a text of 3000 years ago with recent science is like arguing why is Tesla car not mentioned in the Bible. We must stick to the knowledge of their days to judge them..

From the above, what then makes the Bible the word of God if what Joshua knew at that time was common knowledge?

Does it not suggest then, that the Bible was not inspired by God but by ordinary men who during that period had limited knowledge of the world they live in? Besides ,science has not found any evidence that the "sun ever stood still" at any point in time or in any part of the world
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Even the atheist of their days will say sun moves. The writer used the language and knowledge of their days to explain the events. Knowing years later that it's the earth that moves/stops never make the events untrue. We just read today with better understanding..

If we accept that the event actually happened as narrated, why is the event only recorded in the Bible?
The effect of the "sun standing still" would have been experienced not only by Joshua but also by others very far from his location. Yet we don't have any other sources apart from the Bible or moses referring to this particular incident. Why?

If you have read well the ancient world writings, you will know that a wise writer is the one who uses events, figures, animals etc to unlock hard truth, and express wisdom to his hearer

Moses is not the only one in the ancient times to have used existing stories and legends to communicate truth. In Africa, our ancestors did the same. Do you give equal importance to what our ancestors did to that of moses? Why not if they have done the same thing as moses?

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible never said that Adam smiled sheepishly and gleefully when he saw woman, yet we know he did.

Same here, Mr. Toyoda need not say that he made the engine first, then the shell, before he put the engine into the shell and thereafter put some fuels and oils before the Camry started working.

Natural living has already shown us that when a person is dying unlike when a car or thing dies, we see him (his soul) "going away", even slowly, hence departing.

We see the body is empty hence we call it remains exactly like the chassis of a car, with no engine.

We see all these things and sound reason and knowledge definitely tells us that everything that lives has a battery when the battery is fully removed from it that thing "dies" but the battery itself still has power within it such that it can still be put in another body as the Owner or Creator may determine.

The soul is merely the living battery which powers the shell called the body or flesh of the man!

Man is a spirit displayed physically because of the use of the flesh/body, unlike like angels and other heavenly beings, man would not be seen as we see him today.

I have not been arguing against the existence of the soul.

If you had read taken the time to read my comments from the very beginning , you would have understood my position better.

I need an explanation of what keeps the soul functioning after the physical body has been discarded at death.

Is the soul self sustaining after death? How ? Explain the processs of what keeps it going.

It would not be enough to respond that the soul does not need the breath of life after death because I would ask you why?

Also, Bible verses would not be accepted except they contain the exact explanation of how the soul functions after death.

If you can't provide the explanation ,then it means you don't know exactly what the soul is. So don't bother because I am not ready to repeat the same conversation

NNTR:
I dont do argues and I never typed that body =soul and soul = body



Pay a circus, to go see a clown You clowning

You for a start, is a soul and vice versa

The enemy is the 'inner me', you, yourself

Matthew 10:28
And do not be afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul,
but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

triplechoice, your blind religious indoctrination prevents you from seeing in Matthew 10:28 above that souls can be destroyed. Smh

It is because it belongs to you. It is because the soul, is the intrinsic part of you formed that came alive and would remain alive and intact after death

The soul is you and vice versa
You are a soul that has a visible part called the body. Your soul vibrates and reverberates to all parts of your body. Check your body for its pulses, loll.

Please dont mention me again because the meaning of NNTR, has come into force and you wouldnt get any response from me

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Anyone who interprets the genesis account as literal and not as an allegory ,will certainly end up creating a mental pit fall for himself because it will become frustrating to explain or understand how after death an aspect of our being called soul continues to live on.


The genesis account, gives a description of how man (Adam) was created from dust.And after the breath of life was introduced into this body of dust , man became a living soul. The Bible never talked of man having a soul before the body was created from dust or before the breath was introduced. So , from a surface explanation, it is the body plus breath that makes up the soul which is the same as the person or vice versa according to NNTR.

Now death, according to the same Bible is when the body returns back to dust while the breath back to God. So, death( of the living soul) is the reversal of the process that made man a living soul in the first place.

The implication from the above,means that death should be the end of it all. Nothing should remain.

So ,the question now is, from where or from what material do we now have a soul which continues to exist after death?

I have never for once, not exaggerating, gotten any reasonable answer from Christians who still believe that the genesis account actually happened as narrated. The only thing they are quick provide as answers are Bible verses from the new testament which describes the soul facing judgement after death. Such verses, we know, are nothing more than theological proclamations that are only meant to achieve religious conversion.

When the average persons is told that an aspect of himself can be sent to hell fire or destroyed for eternity, he is instantly gripped with fear and would do anything he is told to do to avoid this fate.This is the deceptive conversion tactics used by most religious groups, Christianity especially, to recruit new members. Some other groups will threaten pontential recruits to join them or they face the prospect of endless reincarnation.

But anyone who has a proper interpretation of the Genesis story can never be threatened by anything like hell fire or eternal damnation.


The genesis story is an allegory with important symbolic representations that are not understood by Christians or believers who take the accoun as literal . It has nothing whatsoever to do with current Christianity.

There's is no connection between the old testament and the new testament. It is through sheer humbug that Christians have succeeded in connecting the two parts of the Bible. Any Christian who is not afraid to admit it, can sense that the God of the old and new testament are not the same. One is vindictive and blood thirsty while the other is more benign.


So, @ NNTR as long as you continue to take the Genesis account as literal , it will be difficult for you to give any reasonable response or really know what the soul is. So don't brag and please keep your response to your self.It is not deserving of anything.

Keep to your words and don't respond. Thank you.

This person below made a comment concerning the soul.

KNOWMORE56:
When the Bible says man is a living soul... soul is not = flesh...( a lot of explanations but let's go gradually)

Your response to the above was this;

NNTR:
Awesome

The above is evidence of confused thinking. You already argued before now, that the body =soul and soul = body. But suddenly you have changed your position to accept that the body(flesh) is not the soul. It is obvious that your religious indoctrination is a huge barrier preventing you from understanding what the soul is.

NNTR:
Life is a circle. It goes round and round
Mine's not a circus and I am not your clown
Some people with us Some wear their frown
Still I know my purpose. Is to share what we've found
Some people insist. To wear others down
But all will bare witness. Unto who wears the crown. Jr. Gong. loll.

Still clowning.

Your greatest enemy is you, your soul, inside your own bosom. You're doing yourself and not me, inflicting wounds on the soul.

You don't know what the soul is. Soul has no enemy. You religious indoctrination makes you think so.And soul cannot be inflicted with wounds neither can it be destroyed because it is part of the divine. If I am soul, why do you still attach the possessive pronoun, "your" to the word, soul. ? How can I still possess a soul if I am soul.

You don't know what the soul is.That is it.

NNTR:

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You might have responded to that initially, but you equally, missed all what I had earlier typed since the incept of the thread, as you only jumped at page 4

loll. The Bible says, Adam became a living soul, after God breathed into the nose of Adam, implying that without the breath, Adam already was a soul albeit was a non living soul. Smh.

No what you typed is incorrect because what it means is that the soul already existed here on earth when God fashioned Adam, be that as it may, the soul became alive after it received the breath of life.

That was your problem. It was you, who said, you didnt understand now, loll, so I tried to calm you down with those soothing and encouraging words

E choke you, loll

This is too much for you to grasp.

Review what I typed and try hard to see how you keep overlooking the comic book character used to illustrate Adam before he became a cartoon reel character

Go back to re-read my contribution, where I already forwarded that, you continue to exist in order to appear before God, to explain your sojourn on earth, for Him to weigh everything you've said, thought and done, to then after, judge you and pass sentence that will say where you finally will end up at

In your rashness to dismiss, you foolishly ignore that I illustrated with two characters, namely one on a comic book and the other in a cartoon reel. Comic book characters dont move, as meaning, are not in motion, as cartoon reel characters move.

Thank you for vote of confidence

I guess you'll just have to wallow in ignorance, as I am not going to rise and bite at your bait

Are you deliberately being obtuse here. Hmm?

Souls exists in the land of the living and in realm of the dead. The consciousness of the soul are not transferable in the two realms, meaning, once the soul crosses over from the land of the living into the realm of the dead, it is only conscious of where it presently or currently is

The breath of life, aka ruach is what made the soul to exist in the first place on earth or the land of the living, but at the end of life, the breath of life, aka ruach is not required for the soul to exist in its next temporary abode in the realm of the dead

Aside your selective reading and weak assimilation, its because all you've been doing is pandering to your ego is reason behind why you have not noticed me harping that Adam is a soul and vice versa, housed in a human being tabernacle aka body.

Matthew 7:6
Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy.
Don’t throw your pearls to pigs!
They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you.

It really is so true the instructive in Matthew 7:6 above, loll. I can only tell you the truth. I cant make you believe it.


_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You're just clowning.
Good for you if you think you have made sense.

Soul ,according to you is the body and not the body at the same time.

Complete nonsense

NNTR:
Man after creation was unanimated but the moment God breathed into his nostrils, he jumped into life (i.e. became a living soul)

Remember I earlier shared that human beings are trichotomous, meaning they have body, spirit and soul. Well, the life of the flesh aka body is in the blood, while the life of the soul is in the spirit aka ruach aka breath of God.

When some is clinically dead, as a result of brain death, the spirit aka ruach aka breath of God, leaves the body, as it returns back, to its Owner, God, the Creator. The body returns back to being dust, while the soul leaves the body enroute to a departure lounge area, to wait for Judgment Day date and the soul's departure destination

The above was what I responded to initially.

No where did you mention that the soul was existing some where else before it was enlivened by the breath of live.

Which means that the soul only started to exist here on earth after it received the breath of live.

NNTR:
Sorry if it isnt clear in your mind, after today, then one day, everything will make perfect sense to you because life's a circle, it goes round and round and things goes round with it.

Now what is it that is not clear?

Genesis 2:7
'And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.'

Again

Genesis 2:7
then the Lord God formed [that is, created the body of] man from the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and the man became a living being [an individual complete in body and spirit].

Do you think you understand what you typed in the above?

When growing up, who was your favourite comic book character?
When growing up, who was your favourite cartoon character?

When Adam was fashioned by God, he was just like a comic book character (i.e. inanimate) meaning, he had no sign of life and so, not moving, but the moment God breathed into his nose, he became a cartoon character (i.e. animated) meaning, he got infused with life force, that made come alive and so able to move.

If the cartoon character (Adam) became (a living soul) animated after it received the breath of live, what then kept him animated after the breath was withdrawn?

You see, triplechoice, what you really are is, you are a soul. You dont have a soul, but you are a soul and vice versa.

Ok.I am soul and exist because I am animated by the spirit of God. So why should I continue to exist or function in any way after the breath has been withdrawn?

You're called a spirit being housed in a human being body because technically speaking you're incorporeal. Remember corporeal there, is speaking in terms of, you're a soul.

How does the above relates with your cartoon analogy.So cartoon characters have spirits or soul that is housed inside them. I think one thing is clear. You don't understand what you're talking about. You are engaged in double speak. One minute, the body is soul another minute, the body housed the soul that can leave it after death. Do cartoon characters function that way?

The moment the breath of life aka ruach that God infused into Adam hit his heart, it jumped started him (i.e. the soul) to start a heartbeat, which essentially is how Adam, synonymous with soul in this context turned or became a living soul.

If the above was what happened at the beginning, then it is nonsense to still talk of a soul existing( animated) after the breath has been withdrawn.

There isnt anything like a 'magician performing a magic trick, who surprisingly brougt out of the thin air a soul' because Adam is soul and soul is Adam

The magic is you making Adam (men) to still exist after the essential thing which made him soul had been withdrawn.

Hebrews 9:27
And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once
and after this [comes certain] judgment,

How can men receive judgment after death if they can no longer function after the breath has been taking away? Either your Bible is not correct or you don't understand it.

There's no two ways about it. Dying, at least once, is unavoidable, then at the appointed time, we each will stand to give account of all our thoughts, deeds, actions and words

. Death from your explanation means the absence of the breath of live. So what would now make it possible to still be alive to stand judgement? The Bible never said man can continue to exist in another realm without the breath of live. If there's any such passage where it is stated that man can survive without the breath of live, quote it .

I've explained immediately above where the soul came from

No you didn't. The soul according to you didn't come from anywhere but started to exist when the breath of live entered the body created from dust.

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we [believers will be called to account and] must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ,
so that each one may be repaid for what has been done in the body, whether good or bad
[that is, each will be held responsible for his actions, purposes, goals, motives
the use or misuse of his time, opportunities and abilities].

Considering all the explanations you have given before now about the soul, you should be concern with this obvious contradiction in your Bible. What is contained in the above cannot happen if what you have said about the soul is true.

It is the soul, who and which is, what you are, that is expected to see stand to face judgment

How can the soul face judgement when there's nothing to keep it alive. The breath of live is what made the soul to exist in the first place.

Souls, housed in a human body, need the breath God in order to exist in this physical realm and live in the land of living short part other side of eternity, but as for the land of dead, souls in there, do not require the breath of God for existence and implies that the soul in this setting, is able to continue to exist after the breath of life, has expired and returned back to God and the body back to dust

The above is your own imagination. The Bible never gave any such explanation. And it is another evidence of your double speak. Here , you are now saying that soul is housed in a human body whereas at the beginning you never made such distinction. Adam was a living soul when it had the breath of live. You never said that Adam (soul) was housed in a body. Or you don't know what it means to be housed?

What you know about the soul is founded on the theology of your religion. It is the reason you struggle to explain it for anyone else to understand. If you want to know what the soul is ,you need to look outside your religious text.

LordReed:
Dem never talk true for this matter. 59year old slumping and dying is not normal.

No medical report to let us know cause of death and yet some persons want the public to accept he died of natural causes.

Well ,I heard through the grapevine that he died of sudden heart attack.

NNTR:
The soul comes from being created by the Creator

You read correctly. Perhaps you dont understand the implication. Never mind, I'll clear you up

Man after creation was unanimated but the moment God breathed into his nostrils, he jumped into life (i.e. became a living soul)

RememberI earlier shared that human beings are trichotomous, meaning they have body, spirit and soul. Well, the life of the flesh aka body is in the blood, while the life of the soul is in the spirit aka ruach aka breath of God.

When some is clinically dead, as a result of brain death, the spirit aka ruach aka breath of God, leaves the body, as it returns back, to its Owner, God, the Creator. The body returns back to being dust, while the soul leaves the body enroute to a departure lounge area, to wait for Judgment Day date and the soul's departure destination

The above is confusion

Man, according to you, became a living soul after the breath of life entered the body at the beginning.

So , from your explanation what we get is that it is the combination of the breath of life and the body made from dust which resulted in the soul.

Then, you further explained that at death , the breath of life returns back to God while the body to dust where it came from.

But like a magician performing a magic trick , you surprisingly brougt out of the thin air a soul ,which should no longer exist at this point,( at death) now leaving the body to exist somewhere until judgment. Where did that came from?

How can it be possible for the soul to continue to exist if the two components which makes it up at the begining have been removed or dissolved after death?

Remember you said the blood is what keeps the body alive while the spirit is what sustains the soul.

So how can the soul continue to exist after the breath has been taken away by God and the body back to dust?

Difficult to believe those stories.

If they actually happened, the news would have been everywhere before now.

Crystyano:
Who are you to state the intention of people


How did you know that bastard that asked for my exact address which doesn't really exist since I sleep anywhere possible in the place I have mentioned before wanted to help after saying WE WILL GET YOU?

He called me a scammer without asking the right questions.....but what's the use..... You said I didn't make it possible for anyone to know more about me....... another useless allegation......all you've said including the one that has to do with our WhatsApp and phone conversations are useless allegations.....


The truth is the only thing you have in your head are useless accusations!!!!!


I think you have to stop repeating the same thing except you're less intelligent than a confused baboon!!!!!


Life doesn't make sense and your sewage can't change that!!!!


Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!



Go on with your sewage!!!!!




Damn!!!!





Furrrk the universe!!!!!!!!




Damn it!!!!

Nobody owe your lazy ass anything.

Go and work and feed yourself. You're not disabled.

Crystyano:
I never threatened to commit suicide


I said I might die but you never asked why...


Those guys accused me for no reason but if you want to use that as an evidence,I will not be surprised.



Why won't I deactivate it?


It's because you don't know how terrible it is to be accused and be struggling with family issues at the same time

It is your fault that you're being accused.

You have not made it possible for anybody to verify your stories.

Someone who wanted to help you, demanded for your exact location so he can come to verify before giving you money. You didn't take the opportunity.

Aoart from the things you say here and elsewhere, you're not willing to reveal much about yourself even to those who have contacted you privately. So what do you expect them to think especially when most people know that this forum is crawling with a lot of fraudsters.

I have contacted you privately( through phone calls , on WhatsApp and emails) and not for once did you make any attempt to let me know much about you. Of course I should have asked but I wanted to respect your privacy.

Now the little information I gave you about myself, you're now creating threads to broadcast it to the world and you think it would not work against you ? People have with that judge the kind of person you're


Nobody likes to be deceived. Tell the truth and don't hide yourself

.

If you want people to trust you and not call you a scammer, don't hide.

Nothing will change except you change it. Don't blame me for what I think about you. You caused it

Crystyano:
Trying to help by calling me a scammer



Alright,

The scammer is telling triplechoice that he will still understand.

I already helped when you threatened to commit suicide. You forgotten? So it is not only trying to help


What did you do to this person who accused you since last year?

2cribz:
Ive been in this game since 2010. In fact i started street wen i dey 300 level and na badoo i be dey do den,i chop naija men tire both in card and transfer. I never did this scam story shiit bro. U are a bastard scammer and no one will give u 1 naira. Bastard thief.
Hahahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahaha.
U dying to live and live to die. Hahahahahahahaha.
Bich ass niggi.


Am dat niggi am dat niggi.

BTW why have you deactivated that account?


And this one too

Uyi168:
.

I know this FMT..
Nobody will fall for it..

Ask your fellow yahoo Boys for more recent updates.

Crystyano:
You will still understand


I am not done with you

Be done with your own life first.

You want to bite more than what you can chew?

Crystyano:
triplechoice!!!!!!



This won't end here!!!!



You will still understand!!!!



Keep mocking me!!!!!!

Where did I mock you?

If I wanted to mock you, I wouldn't have provided any assistance to you in the first place.
You're the one who has been dragging me all over the place for trying to be of help.

Do I know you before?

Even the person you where asked to call to get employed has blocked you because you have been calling her to complain and ask for help for your brother.

What connects you with her? You think you can play your games with her.

Crystyano:
Let the accusation stand!!!!!



I will rather die than answer your questions since you have decided to stick to your sewage!!!!




It's your mother that asked me for details , right??




Whether my brother dies in prison or not,it will not change my promise!!!!!


You will still understand!!!

OK then.
Since you don't need help for your so called brother in prison anymore or clear your name, we leave it as it is.

Besides, you can give the details to other people to verify. It must not be me. If you have the phone number to contact him then it won't be difficult to get the prison number.

So I am done with you.

Crystyano:
Why didn't you ask before calling me a scammer?



What will you tell the zombies that believed you




You will still understand!!!



Let the madness continue!!!!!

Provide it now or the accusation still stand.

You can only fool yourself with your madness.

You have been asked already for details about your so called brother in prison to know why he is detained. So this is not the first time.

Stop raising dust. It won't help you.

Crystyano:
What is wrong with your head


You accused me of cursing .....then mocked me when I said XYZ should happen to me if I was lying .....now you're asking me to repeat the same thing.........why not just conclude that this is another evidence of your sewage?



I have failed ..... I am not clever.......yet you had to modify your sewage..... you're just looking for ways to make everyone hate me.......

You asked my dad a stupid question .....now you're trying to add to the problem.........


Are you not the same person that stated I have never been to the prison??..... the same bastard asking for a number ... but you said anything I drop here is useless.....go ahead with your sewage..... you will still understand......



If you had done the right investigation before telling everyone I'm a liar,I wouldn't have been as displeased as I am...... are you going to tell Martinez39s and every other person that now sees me as a scammer that you were wrong or what exactly are trying to achieve?



Do you have the guts to call my dad after calling me names??



Don't ask me to clear any name!!!!


Let your zombies continue to believe you!!!!!



At least , you know DeepSight, raptex, wirinet,Remag666, hakeem4, FatherChristmas, LordReed,etc will never call your sewage education!!!!!

Noise.

Provide his prison number.It is as simple as that.He calls you everyday. Ask him for it.

Let's verify your story so you don't continue to claim I accused wrongly.

Crystyano:
You know someone who works in the prison but you don't know the prison.


As for swearing,

What has that got to do with faith?


Is swearing the same as cursing?


You don't care about my parents and myself but you're debating our situation..... how does that make sense??



This one too is an evidence, right!!?

In your mind,

You have casted what exactly?



Only zombies will consider your sewage as education.......... you're saying I should swear after arriving at baseless conclusions....... what kind of brain do you have?


According to my dad,Juliet spoke to you but I can see Juliet is nothing to you or she's just confusing herself!!!!




Why should I repeat myself to a bastard like you who unthinkably thinks he knows what's in my mind??



You don't know the difference between swearing and cursing ........ besides if I did mention ogun , how does that mean I seriously wanted any imaginary asshole to do anything??





You will say you don't care if I really believe in God(s) or not but you debate it......... another sewage .......there are things that you need to understand but you can't predict when the understanding will happen!!!!





You will still understand......... I promise you that....... I never promised to get to Asaba as certain things were yet to be confirmed and procured but I am promising you that you will understand.....

You have failed woefully.

Swear that the story is completely true and clear your name. It is a simple as that.

Yea .you placed a curse on yourself and it is due to what you were accused of.

If you swear that the story is true then no need to curse yourself.

If I know someone who works in prison how will the person know where your brother is detained if you don't provide is prison number for him to check. Is your brother the only detainee in kiirikiri?

You're not clever at all.

Modified. OK. I know someone who works in the prisons,that is , with the Nigerian prisons and not someone who works in the prison where your brother was detained. I have corrected that. So provide his prison number to check the actual reason he is under detention

sadboy:
People keep saying witches don’t have power, this and that, and that and this!!!


Let me tell you something just pray you don’t enter the problem with a witch, otherwise be ready to fight a spiritual battle all the rest of your lifetime. Witches never get tired what they do is gather in a group passing out information, eating garbage or drinking bloods of the dead, traveling round the world and bewitching the unfortunate. If you are a Christian, then you must be a devoted Christian a true Christian not a fake Christian or Christian people practice these days. Otherwise you will be the victim of the thing they call witch spell.

I have been suffering of witches spell for many years now; I feel my destiny has been stolen away from me. I have been to many churches and attended so many all-night, we all fasted and pray to kill the witches but they never dies. The witches are so powerful that they can monitor their victim even when they travel out of the country. Witches can travel by plane, fish out their victims and increase cast more spells.

For instance the victim fasted and maybe full with the Holy Spirit they will free the victim for sometime, but will come back again when the victim least expected and start their operation on the victim. My friend it’s not a easy road. I have contacted so many spiritualists who confirmed the same thing by says the witches has tile done your star. But all the sacrifices been made to be free but to no avail. This people work hand in hand.

My life has twist/turn opposite from the way it uses to be, who I have offend to deserve this I do not know. But I feel I am suffering for no fault of my. These witches are not far from the victims they are most likely to be relatives/family members or in the some neighborhood. If the victim changes location and still faces the same problem then it must likely be family members or somebody may be offended by the victim.


Right now I am confused as I am no longer enjoying life, it feels I am not among the people leaving on earth. Nothing I will ever plan to do that will ever to reach.

Right now I don’t need any advise from anybody regarding go to church or pray, the day you pray must is the time the witches will hunt/come for you more. What I need now I want to joy any kind of group of people who practices spiritualism and must has powerful spiritual power more than witches. I mean going to the spiritual realms to correct the things the witches has spoil personally; I don’t need any body to do it for me. As many has tried but end up with failed result. Right now I do not believe anything people say. I want to see things myself.

Thanks and hope to read from you guys.

The solution to your problem is inside what you posted

Crystyano:
If what they're saying is true,let me have unfortunate imbeciles as children.


Let my brothers and sisters die before they reach 30years.


Let my parents have reasons to commit suicide.



Let me not live past 2021.




So,be it.

This will not work. This is not how to swear.

You have to be specific and not throw it wide open. What are they saying about you? So many things have been said both good and bad. I wanted to ignore you but I understand you're doing this to create the impression that you're telling the truth. But your swear na wayo.

Below is what started it .
it.

I received the following information from my mother who received it from eye-witnesses.
My brother was given a lift by his friend while his friend was going to use the ATM.
When they got to the ATM,some men attacked his friend.
His friend tried to scare them by shooting into the air.
Later, the police came and they were only able to arrest his friend.
After that,they asked of the person that was inside his car.
Then,he told them it was my brother so they looked for him and arrested him after he had left the car to avoid getting hurt.
But the issue is that my brother doesn't know why his friend was attacked.
He never participated in any crime.
He doesn't know how his friend got the gun.
They were not even living in the same area as at the time this happened.
My brother is in prison now and my parents are very poor.
I don't think he has eaten since he was arrested..
I don't think he will last for long unless someone helps him.
Please,if you can help him,let me know so that I will send an account number.
His name is Godwin.
My mother's number is 08033791034.

Swear that the above story is completely true.

And after swearing, post your brother's prison number and the Prison where he is currently detained. I know someone who works in the prison. He will help to confirm that your brother is being detained and the exact nature of the crime he committed.

As for your parents and yourself, that's your own business to deal with. I am not responsible for what you're going through. You were offered a way out but you didn't take it even when you gave assurance that you will.

But the important thing now is to swear to the truthfulness of the above story.

BTW I thought you were an atheist? How come you now believe in swearing. In another thread, you were swearing with thunder (sango). You can not deceive anyone midway that you now believe in curses.

My friend, this job don cast. You can't revive it .Stop flogging a dead horse. Look for a job to do.

In Ikorodu market right now, there are lots of trailers coming in with goods from the North. Find your way there and do some offloading.

Ojeemah, Timekeeper, proudlyNGN

Crystyano:
If what they're saying is true,let me have unfortunate imbeciles as children.


Let my brothers and sisters die before they reach 30years.


Let my parents have reasons to commit suicide.



Let me not live past 2021.




So,be it.

This will not work. This is not how to swear.

You have to be specific and not throw it wide open. What are they saying about you? So many things have been said both good and bad. I wanted to ignore you but I understand you're doing this to create the impression that you're telling the truth. But your swear na wayo.

Below is what started it .

quote]I received the following information from my mother who received it from eye-witnesses.
My brother was given a lift by his friend while his friend was going to use the ATM.
When they got to the ATM,some men attacked his friend.
His friend tried to scare them by shooting into the air.
Later, the police came and they were only able to arrest his friend.
After that,they asked of the person that was inside his car.
Then,he told them it was my brother so they looked for him and arrested him after he had left the car to avoid getting hurt.
But the issue is that my brother doesn't know why his friend was attacked.
He never participated in any crime.
He doesn't know how his friend got the gun.
They were not even living in the same area as at the time this happened.
My brother is in prison now and my parents are very poor.
I don't think he has eaten since he was arrested..
I don't think he will last for long unless someone helps him.
Please,if you can help him,let me know so that I will send an account number.
His name is Godwin.
My mother's number is 08033791034.[/quote]Swear that the above story is completely true.

And after swearing, post your brother's prison number and the Prison where he is currently detained. I know someone who works in the prison. He will help to confirm that your brother is being detained and the exact nature of the crime he committed.

As for your parents and yourself, that's your own business to deal with. I am not responsible for what you're going through. You were offered a way out but you didn't take it even when you gave assurance that you will.

But the important thing now is to swear to the truthfulness of the above story.

BTW I thought you were an atheist? How come you now believe in swearing. In another thread, you were swearing with thunder (sango). You can not deceive anyone midway that you now believe in curses.

My friend, this job don cast. You can't revive it .Stop flogging a dead horse. Look for a job to do.

In Ikorodu market right now, there are lots of trailers coming in with goods from the North. Find your way there and do some offloading.

Ojeemah, Timekeeper, proudlyNGN

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We shall see who's stupid[/quote]You're threatening someone you have not seen face to face?

Crystyano:
First you said I don't drop numbers


Now, you're saying they're useless



We shall see who's stupid

Go and find something to do and stop twisting my statements.

I have met people like you offline. They never admit they are lying even when you point out their lies to them.

You're a low budget yahoo boy without laptop

ProudlyNGN:
Boy you are nothing but an ordinary scammer trying to scam people. You are on Nairaland 24/7 trying to convince people and scam them. Imagine putting this effort to reasonable thing. You are so disgusting I swear and even Mad man has sense more than you do. Gettout abeg zombie.
Triplechoice forget about this local scammer, he will die a miserable dead.

He is not normal at all

Crystyano:
Nobody will bother to call after believing you

Don't put the blame on me. Blame yourself for not telling the actual truth about your situation.

I didn't ignore the person that said WE can do .......

You can't answer in full since you know you're lying

I blasted him for calling me names without asking for information

You blasted him because you're an executive beggar with pride. Someone really looking for help from the public would be ready take anything and not be easily offended. But you're angry because his question exposes you.

I have stated the prison where my brother is

You didn't. You were evasive. You're not certain where he is .

I don't know if he's alive now but he texted me yesterday

You keep repeating this line. You don't know if he is alive but you know that he urgently needs money.

Crystyano:
Nobody will bother to call after believing you


I gave Ayo081 and LordReed numbers!



I didn't ignore the person that said WE can do ........


I blasted him for calling me names without asking for information!!



I have stated the prison where my brother is!



I don't know if he's alive now but he texted me yesterday!


He needs help whether you accept it or not!!!!

Not my business whether your brother needs help or not . But I will continue to warn my friends here so they don't send money to you for no reason

OJEEMAH:
No, he shouldn't quit as he will be given an award for this act of stupidity What's the point? E get job already naa for the first time in a very long time, i regret trying to help one ungrateful thing. He was being foolish. How does he expect others to come to his aid after seeing how he treated us. i wish he would consider this

The guy appears to be doing drugs. He is not normal at all

Crystyano:
What is your evidence?

If you're telling the truth then provide means by which your stories can be independently verified. Keep to yourself the phone numbers you usually give out . The can't be used for anything at this moment.

I have people living in Ikorodu who will come down immediately to check. Or any other nairalander interested in helping out can come to check.

Others who cry out for help here in nairaland have no qualms in providing further details about themselves when asked to do so. Some mention the exact name of the hospital and the actual address if it is an health issue. Students begging for school fees, provide means to check if they are actually in school and owning that amount.

But your case is different.You want people to accept what you tell them and not what they can find out on their own. The person you called to report me to ,asked you what got your brother into prison. You kept mute

The reason you continue to play this game is because you're hiding behind your phone whenever you're and assume you're smart whereas you're very foolish

Nobody knows where you're in Ikorodu. You won't provide information. Someone who wanted to help you ask for your exact location in Ikorodu. But you ignored him.

No account number on your name. You have provided more than 6 different account numbers for money to be sent to you. In my case you sent me more than 3

Your WhatsApp profile is blank. Nothing at all.

You don't know if your brother is dead or alive in prison or which prison exactly. But you need to send money urgently to him everyday.

You teach in a Private school and yet you can't tell the proprietor of the school that you're homeless.

Continue the fiction. Some magas will surely be influenced by it and send money stupidly to your numerous account numbers .