₦airaland Forum

AntiChristian:
I am mad. But you're the maddest mad person on Islamic Section NL. I just wanted to warn you to keep off my thread.

I agree with you. You are 100% right.

AntiChristian:
Babaheekmat, can you please mind wetin you come to do on Nairaland?

Or beta face your family or vocation?

You are a true Muslim following the sunnah of the prophet. Do not mind the hypocrites.

Babaheekmat:
This is absurd. This is not how to do dawah for Christians. Don't follow the path of the misguided zakir naik and others

How is Zakir Naik misguided when the Saudis gave him the highest award for his knowledge and spreading of Islam? Is it that the Saudis, the real owners of Islam, never knew that Zakir Naik is misguided?

fortran12:
Who is talking here? It can't be Allah. If it's him why is he using he to describe himself. It seems it's some one describing what Allah does.
This proves nothin, anyone human can claim anything. I need a verse that Allah is speaking

Dont you know that Islamic english is different from regular english? The quran is a badly composed book by some semiliterate normadic arabs.

XklusivGistBlog:
Hello brothers.
I have been a Christian all my life, 28 years old male. Recently i got posted to the North east to serve (NYSC), Now I am drawn to the Islam religion, they way they pray, and are Close to God.

I want to convert. I am in Borno state presently, how do one covert, I don't even have access to the Koran except the english Version on my phone. I am also a leader in the church here in maiduguri, but my heart has left and I don't have peace anymore.

How do I begin This Journey.
God bless you my Brother and sisters.

Do not join Islam my brother. It is not good for your soul. Mohammed, the prophet of allah, used to secretly sleep with his maid, mary the coptic girl, and got caught by his wife Hafsa and he apologized and promised never to do it again (quran 66:1). After a while he continued sleeping with her and allah encouraged him to continue and to break his oath to Hafusatu, the daughter of Omar ibn kathab. Is that the man you want to follow?

AntiChristian:
Yeah, it's as dumb as you. And are you making sense?

Can you call your mum woman even if you are in a position 2,000,000 times greater than her?

Did Mary complain? Why are you crying more than the bereaved? Muslims always looking for ways to bring Mohammed and Jesus into the same level. Between calling Mary 'woman' and Mohammed calling the Jews apes and pigs, which one is better. So it is ok for mohammed to call people 'apes and pigs' and bad to call a mother 'woman'. Use your sense.

AntiChristian:
Of cos! You saw me claim that right? Or your interpolation?

I am on your side. We are on the same side.

AntiChristian:
You're the President of sick people in Nigeria. And Jabata is the Chairman! Your Sheikh!
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He is a Jaahil Murakab as your colleagues dey say!

Stay off my thread and mentions!

You are the only true muslim and you will be handsomely rewarded for following the sunnah.

AntiChristian:
You and your Alfa Jabata and all your plumber apprentice should come and fight me.

Of cos you are crazy. That's why you're the only Muslim on NL. Abeg comot for my thread jawe.

You are a good muslim; do not listen to the mushrikuns, they are kafir. You are the true muslim following the sunnah.

Babaheekmat:
Seems you are crazy. This Is Islam. And it's not your father's religion and you can't just be saying rubbish and we'll be looking at you.

Why the hell are you hell bent on this your insane act you called dawah?

He is following the sunnah of the prophet.

Babaheekmat:
This guy is comparing a book of human being with word of Allah..

Who told you this is acceptable in Islam?
Who told you that using Bible deficiencies to preach to the Christians is allowed in Islam?

Kuku go cram all the incantations of baba alawo and use it to preach to them.. How will you preach to the Jews and all other innovated religion?

Start cramming up their books?

What's this.. Subhanalah

Judaism is an innovated religion and yet you lifted all the Jewish prophets into your quran. This is crazy bro.

AntiChristian:
Yes you remind that it was written by Paul who is the founder of Christianity!

It is shocking that mohammed/allah had amnesia and forgot to mention Paul either in the quran or the hadith. Why didnt allah say anything about Paul? Why are muslims the ones fighting Paul on allah's behalf?

AntiChristian:
The Jesus of the Bible committed one of the greatest sin by talking to his mother inappropriately! You know the verse na!
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Also as you said he forgot to clearly preach well as no one understood him. This is a sin. Even Moses was able to deliver his message well.

Jesus called his mother 'woman', that is true. Was Mary a man? Muslims now playing defenders of Mary because Jesus called her 'woman', all in a bid to score a cheap point. This is a dumb argument from Islamic perspective; it does not make sense.

ITbomb:
No wonder Biafran soldiers wanted to forcefully annexed it but the gallant Nigerian soldiers repel them

Ikot Ekpene has always and will always be part of Biafra. This is not Oshogbo.

advocatejare:
Muslims have always being silent on how your prophets died a filthy death.

I only learnt of the death of the 'holy' prophet (peace be upon me) 4 years ago and it was a shameful death; died of food poison with so much anguish and suffering.

Empiree:
are incidents up north all about religion?. Don't they have other issues going on there that led to chaos?

The core north is a religiously conservative society and most of the violent incidents up there are religoously-motivated and hundreds of thousands have lost their life in the north as a result of religion, especially Islamic religion.

Empiree:
Plus North side is too political that's why everything is rough there. SE, SS is like Nigeria dumpster. Besides there are so many exarggerated stories about North.

North is too political because they have nothing to offer except religion and violence. You said the SE and the SS is like Nigeria dumpster. I think you must be dreaming while typing this. 90% of your revenue is from the oil and gas resources in the SS and the most qualitative human capital resources Nigeria has is from the SE. The SE kids are expected to score an average of 65% to gain entance to any unity school in Nigeria while that of the average north is 15% and the SW 55%. Statistics dont lie bro.
Besides, the dumpster SE and SS wanted to leave the federation between 1967-1970 but your people fought them, with the support of the British and the Soviets, to stop them from leaving your paradise. If they are not too relevant to be let go why are you keeping them in your federation by the force of arm?

Empiree:
If you are sensible enough you should realize that this whole thing about "persecution of CHRISTIANs" in Nigeria is sinister to create domino effect. It is just a distraction from moving Africa forward.

Yes christians are persecuted in Nigeria, especially under this current administration. All the service chiefs are of Hausa and Fulani-muslims stock in a country with over 200 ethnics groups. This gross nepotism rooted in Islamic supremacy and Fulani political conquest.

Empiree:
Anytime you see foreign people meddling and siding with certain people in Africa they are up to no good. But unfortunately they use CHRISTIANS as persecuted people while Muslims are portrayed as boogeymen. Keep falling for their trash.

The foreign powers only exploited a loophole to create a crisis. The muslim-led government created the atmosphere which the western media is exploiting. Is it the western media that asked buhari to say: The people that gave me 5% of their vote should not expect to be treated eqaully with the people that gave me 97% of their vote. Stop acting like an ignorant person bro.

Empiree:
are incidents up north all about religion?. Don't they have other issues going on there that led to chaos?. Plus North side is too political that's why everything is rough there. SE, SS is like Nigeria dumpster. Besides there are so many exarggerated stories about North.

If you are sensible enough you should realize that this whole thing about "persecution of CHRISTIANs" in Nigeria is sinister to create domino effect. It is just a distraction from moving Africa forward. Anytime you see foreign people meddling and siding with certain people in Africa they are up to no good. But unfortunately they use CHRISTIANS as persecuted people while Muslims are portrayed as boogeymen. Keep falling for their trash.

This is what your muslim brother wrote below:

Snowale:
They hate us in the south east and south south, but they are many in the North living peacefully and comfortably.

This was my response:

true2god:
Mention a single incident of religious violence in the SE or SS. How many muslims have died in the SS or SE and how many chrisyians have died in the north as a result of religous violence? Be sincere and answer the simple question.

Your long epistle failed to provide a single incident where a single soul was lost in the SE or SS as a result of religious issue.

TAYO124:
IT IS THE Most plagiarized religious book in human history.

This can also help to get diffrent versions of the quran:

https://submission.org/verify_are_all_Arabic_versions_of_Quran_the_same.html

Takara:
The Qur'an is well preserved from the time of its revelation. Evidence? There are no Versions of the Qur'an unlike the bible which has so many conflicting versions. E.g The Douay Version of the bible used by Catholics has 73 books, while protestant bibles have 66 books,!
,You have King James Version, The Revised Standard Version which revised the kings james version , The Jehovah Wittness have their own different version etc

http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-quran-changed-20-versions.htm

Open the link above and read about the different versions of the quran. Even in the arabic quran we have:

* The haffs

* The warsh

* The doori ,etc koran. Like 7 diferent variants.

Stop living in delusion bro.

Snowale:
They hate us in the south east and south south, but they are many in the North living peacefully and comfortably.

Mention a single incident of religious violence in the SE or SS. How many muslims have died in the SS or SE and how many chrisyians have died in the north as a result of religous violence? Be sincere and answer the simple question.

Hardeybohwarley:
Bismillah wa salam ala Rosululahi.

May the Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon the Noblest of all Mankind; Muhammad Mustapha (Aameen).

This is just a simple explanation about the Marriage of the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) and Aaisha (R.A) as many Islamic Scholars have written and talked about it already.

Without much ado, The Prophet (S.A.W) lived about 1500 years ago, as such everything around his time cannot be compared to now. As things changes with time, if the value of #10,000 ten years ago can change as a result of some factors, why is it unbelievable that the size of human 1500 years ago will be the same as now.

Also, Marriage has no specific age as it varies from places to places owing to many factors. So before you say ill words or abuse Prophet Muhammad, think in through.

May Allah SWT guide us all and show us the right path.

Adebowale stop this nonsense. Human being of 1500 years have not changed a bit, at least physically. You dont also believe in huma evolution. What mohammed did to Aisha is bad; you cannot take an innocent girl of 6, as a wife, as sleep with her at 9. It is child abuse.

Rashduct4luv:
Those two people you mentioned were memorisers of the Qur'an too!

Being a memorizer is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for one to compile the quran. Mohammed asked muslims to collect the quran from 4 people and among them is ibn Masud and he didnt agree with Zaid ibn Thabit:

Az-Zuhri said: "'Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah bin 'Utbah informed me that 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud disliked Zaid bin Thabit copying the Musahif, and he said: 'O you Muslims people! Avoid copying the Mushaf and the recitation of this man. By Allah! When I accepted Islam he was but in the loins of a disbelieving man' - meaning Zaid bin Thabit - and it was regarding this that 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud said: 'O people of Al-'Iraq! Keep the Musahif that are with you, and conceal them. For indeed Allah said: And whoever conceals something, he shall come with what he concealed on the Day of Judgement (3:161). So meet Allah with the Musahif.'" Az-Zuhri said: "It was conveyed to me that some men amongst the most virtuous of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah () disliked that view of Ibn Mas'ud."
Jami' at-Tirmidhi Vol. 5, Book 44, Hadith 3104

OfficialAPCNig:
You want to deceive me with Taqqiya abi? Kindly deceive your fellow Yoruba Moslems.

Zayd started compiling the Koran 20 years after your rosul's death.

Some of the verses of the Koran that were written down in the time of Mohammed were destroyed in the war that killed many of Mohammed companions.

There were different versions of Koran after the compilation. Umar ordered the ummah to burn them.

You knew Mary the mother of Jesus is not the same as Miriam the sister of Aaron, so why did zayd portrayed the two as the same.

At least you agreed that one man compiled the Koran, so how are you sure he didn't utter it even by a single letter?

He divided the Koran into verses and re-arranged them. That is why some portions are illogical, disjointed and incoherent.

Dont deceive us.

You have done excellently well. Mohammd will be shocked if he sees today's copy of the quran produced by the khalifas for their political gain. Omar Ibn Kathab was the brain behind the quran while Zaid ibn Thabit was only used as a project supervisor for the compilation of the quran.

Olulinks:
Many of you don't know this man popularly called Daddy GO.
Well, how many of you even know una sef.



Person wey still dey find una sef go fit know another person so?

Pastor Adeboye won't say a word until her directed to do so by our Father.

Waiting for him to talk is a waste of your time. You too can talk. He's not more Nigerian that you are.

God directed him to criticize Jonathan but asked him to be silent on Buhari. Kwantinu your lies.

Fountainofyouth:
I have noticed one trend with so called males here, they usually type @emboldened when it is a female stating her issues, but when it's a male, their functioning brain goes on hibernation, SMH!!

If you want to hear the other side of the story, kindly get in touch with the horseband, and bring him here to say his version, in the meantime, this is all we have, if you are not satisfied with her version, don't even try to comment, and the next time you see a female thread stating her sad family issues, kindly jump and pass.

Why call him horseband instead of the normal husband? You are part of the problem; very rude and disrespectful.

fortran12:
dont run just yet, show me proof of the treaty they broke, if they broke any treaty why did Ali ask the question in the first place? So your merciful prophet of God kills an entire community, raids their treasury because of a treaty right? that sounds like how mafia to me.
We are talking mohammed not bible, dont try and justify wat your prophet did, shebi he was the best of man kind,someone u shld emulate. Show me proof of the treaty they broke.

Thats a typical Islamic escape route; instead of defending the atrocities of mohammed, they run to the Bible to look for a related incidence, even if you are not a Jew or christian. As I said before, mohammed's actions were not different from what the mafia bosses are doing today.

jospepper:
Please Nairalanders I need your help.

At about 9am this morning I received a call from this number 08068941992 informing me of a training in one of the WhatsApp group which I belong to. The caller then told me to hang on for a while to receive a confirmation code for the training. I received the code 737-685 and sent it back to him, he thanked me and promised to call me by 5pm to remind me of the training.

Few minutes later I tried to login to WhatsApp without success. I deleted the app and downloaded a new one but I can't login with my number. That's when it dawned on me that my WhatsApp has been hacked. I have contacted support center but they are of no help.

I went and reported to Police and made a statement.

PLEASE my people, what can I do to prevent them from using my Identity to commit crime.

I was a victim too of a guy who hacked into a colleague's number to send me a WhatsApp chat that he sells data at a very cheap rate. He asked for the 6-digit confirmation code which he used to hack into my account after I paid, into his ecobank account, 1k for 5GB data. It took another 1 week before I could recover my line for WhatsApp purposes. Somes guys are pure evil and criminally minded.

maximunimpact:
At the bolded: do you know that your words here also apply to JWs? The original bible students disintegrated into different sects after Pastor Russell passed on? Rutherford was able to gain control of the watch tower after legal battles with other ranking board members, it was after he gained total control, then in July 26, 1931, at a convention in Columbus, Ohio, Rutherford introduced the new name – Jehovah's witnesses. Other break aways took on different names and continued worship on similar doctrine but refuse to recognize the watch tower and the governing body as the faithful and discrete slave.

So if unity is what makes you think JWs are the only true religion, then you maybe able to convince millennials, but not me or students of history.

Even among you today, not everyone agrees that the GB or Watch tower has the sole right to SHED MORE LIGHT ON THE TRUTH, but sadly whoever questions their authority will be termed apostates and subsequently shunned and disfellowshiped.

John 4:23 says: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Worship is in Truth (Jesus Christ) and in spirit (Holy Spirit) and not a physical structure like the Church or kingdom hall.

I appreciate your knowledge of history and your ability to apply critical reasonings in your engagement so far. Kudos and God blessed.

Harbioye:
Interesting thread, I must say.
This thread increased my love for Sahih Bukhari.

As per the argument, Allah knows best.

The same sahih Bukhari that made mohammed look like a mafia lord.

Stehane:
interesting.. Still never gets old for some people

This offer is a scam. The user (a male) has creadted many accounts to defraud so many people. May God punish him for all his evil in Jesus' name.

DO NOT CALL OR PAY THE USER BELLOW FOR ANY DATA. HE IS A THIEF. Read and share with friends.

Rashduct4luv:
I thought you have the brain to reason. Never knew you are among those NL guys who afraid to read and afraid to change their position when it is wrong! What's there to justify? Authentic evidences abound. If you can't read long posts then don't start what you can't finish.

The Prophet does not fit in to either the definition of a bandit nor that of a criminal.

And you were just a cherry picker by just selecting what suit your whims! The Story of Ibn Ishaq has been widely criticised by Muslims and non-Muslim scholars and even his contemporary Shaykh al-Islām Malik ibn Anas (may Allah have mercy on him). He rejected the stories of Muhammad and the Jews of Medina on ground that they were taken solely based on accounts by sons of Jewish converts. These same stories have also been denounced as "odd tales" later by Ibn Hajar (may Allah have mercy on him). Imam Malik and others also thought that Ibn Ishaq relied too heavily on the Isra'iliyat.

The Authentic Hadith you quoted from Bukhari has already been explained in the OP and that is an authentic Hadith.

Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz:
Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khalbar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army." We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, 'O Allah's Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her."
Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, 'Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.' He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-SawTq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walima (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle ."

So rather that being a slave girl or married wife which is better?

In the penultimate paragraph of the OP... the comments from Saffiyyah herself....

In addition, there are many narrations proving that the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam (may Allaah exalt his mention) brought peace and happiness to her and comforted her. He also clarified the reasons for what had happened to her people. Thereupon she said, "I did not get up from my place until he was the most beloved person to me". Another narration reads that she said, "I never saw anyone who has a better character than the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention )". She also said, "I saw him riding on his mount while I was feeling sleepy and my head was falling on the stick of the mount, then he would pat me with his hand saying: "Take it easy, O daughter of Huyay bin Akhtab" . When they reached Al-Sahabah he sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam (may Allaah exalt his mention) said to her: “O Safiyyah! I apologize for what I did to your people; certainly they accused me of such and such."

Take it easy man; we are not fighting.

Rashduct4luv:
It's like atheist do feel high when bashing the theistic Prophets. Do you have any business with him here?

You are polishing a damaged shoe so I have to correct you.