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true2god:Mohammed's first wife, khadijah, was a widow before Mohammed married her. Mohammed married another widow, um Hani, after the death of khadijah. After killing khinana, at the battle of khaibar, Mohammed married another widow called safiya. Why did Mohammed ask Muslims not to marry his wives after his death? |
Badgers14:Lets take it one by one. Bros, my own first. loll |
In Quran 33:53, Mohammed gave an instruction that no one should marry his wives after his death. Can Muslims do justice to this instruction by Mohammed? |
true2god:On this matter, let's look at what your famous Muslim tasfirist, Ibn Kathir, said on this matter: IBN KATHIR: Yunus b. Bukayr stated, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father who said, "The Messenger of God (SAAS) married ‘A’isha three years after (the death of) Khadija. At that time (of the contract) ‘A’isha had been a girl of six. When he married her she was nine. The Messenger of God (SAAS) died when ‘A’isha was a girl of eighteen. " This tradition is considered gharib (unique in this line). Al-Bukhari had related, from ‘Ubayd b. Isma‘il, from Abu Usama, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father, who said, "Khadija died three years before the emigration of the Prophet (SAAS). He allowed a couple of years or so to pass after that, and then he contracted marriage with ‘A’isha when she was six, thereafter consummating marriage with her when she was nine years old." What ‘Urwah stated here is mursal , incomplete, as we mentioned above, but in its content it must be judged as muttasil , uninterrupted. His statement, "He contracted marriage with ‘A’isha when she was six, thereafter consummating marriage with her when she was nine" IS NOT DISPUTED BY ANYONE, and is well established in the sahih collections of traditions and elsewhere. He consummated marriage with her during the second year following the emigration to Medina. His contracting marriage with her took place some three years after Khadija’s death, though there is disagreement over this. The hafiz Ya‘qub b. Sufyan stated, "Al-Hajjaj related to us, that Hammad related to him, from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father, from ‘A’isha, who said, ‘The Messenger of God (SAAS), contracted marriage with me (after) Khadija’s death and before his emigration from Mecca, when I was six years old. After we arrived in Medina some women came to me while I was playing on a swing; my hair was like that of a boy. They dressed me up and put make-up on me, then took me to the Messenger of God (SAAS), and he consummated our marriage. I was a girl of nine.’" The statement here "muttawaffa Khadija ", "Khadija’s death" has to mean that it was shortly thereafter. Unless, that is, the word, ba‘da , "after", originally preceded this phrase and had been omitted from the account. The statement made by Yunus b. Bukayr and Abu Usama from Hisham b. ‘Urwa, from his father, is, therefore, not refuted. But God knows best. (Ibn Kathir, The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya) , Volume II, translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, reviewed by Dr. Muneer Fareed [Garnet Publishing Limited, 8 Southern Court, south Street Reading RG1 4QS, UK; The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization, first paper edition, 2000], pp. 93-94). As I said earlier, you cannot be right while 99.9% of Islamic scholars wrong on this matter. It might look shameful to you, but that's what allahh asked Mohammed to do (according to Mohammed himself). And if you think this matter is not acceptable to you, what about Mohammed's marriage to zainab, his foster son's (zaid ibn Mohammed) wife. This can be found in Quran 33:37-50. You can also see this in the book 'history of al-tabari vol 8, pages 2-4). In one of the quranic verses I provided, Mohammed asked his sahabas never to marry any of the wives when he die, and meanwhile Mohammed married so many widows and had many sex slaves whom husbands had died in battle. In fact Mohammed's first wife, khadijah, was a widow before Mohammed married her. This simple and bad instruction left Aisha unmarried and without a child after the death of Mohammed from the poison he ate at khaibar. |
seunH:Well, I know you might be highly embarrassed that Mohammed, whom you considered noble, married Aisha when she was 6 and started sleeping with her when she became 9. Any that's the truth because all the evidence are in your authentic hadith, that is sahih bukhari, sahih Muslim,sunnah Abu dawud and sunnah ibn majjah. All the hadith cannot be wrong while you are right. The Aisha's age passes what you Muslims call 'the science of the hadith' because we have so many chains of narrators that reported this incidence, including Aisha herself and the famous ibn Hisham. Let Aisha speak for herself: Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234 ) Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari , Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236 ) Narrated 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.'" (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 140 ; see also Number 139) Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old , and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64 ; see also Numbers 65 and 88) SAHIH MUSLIM 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine . She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3309 ; see also 3310) 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old . (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311 ) SUNAN ABU DAWUD Aisha said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: Or six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old . (Sunan Abu Dawud, Number 2116) Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. According to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine . She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4915 ) Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) used to kiss her and suck her tongue when he was fasting. ( Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 13, Number 2380 ) All the al-hadeth are unanimous in agreement to the fact that Aisha was 6 when Mohammed engaged her and was 9 when Mohammed started sleeping with her. I know its difficult, for a sane and rational mind like you to imagine let alone practice, but that is what your prophet did. And you know what, even your Quran does not help in this matter (Quran 65:4). And the irony is that Islamic state like Saudi Arabia will never condemn these al-hadeth as false and had never. Accept this part of the sunnah of your prophet and move on, you cannot re-write this simple well documented and historical fact. |
Sahih bukhari 4:52:220.
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dalaman:Where was Mohammed heading to after his death? Do you have any confirmation from the Quran? |
Contact17:Cool down sister, stop justifying the pedophilic nature of your prophet with the evil sunnah of your prophet. Your prophet, being the best man in Islam, is expected to live a higher moral standard than his contemporary. If he can't live a high moral live, if did he call himself a prophet? Why are Muslims the ones to always make excuses for their prophet's sins and evil? You said it is normal for Arabs of 1400 years ago to marry young, please can you tell me the age limit for girls to marry in Saudi Arabia in this 2016? Can you tell me the age limit in Iran, Pakistan or Sudan? The truth is, there is no age limit, a girl as young as 5 can still be married off in this countries. Are you telling us that Saudi Arabia is still existing in 570AD in 2016? Please don't brainwash us, you can do that in your mosques. You said adolescent comes early in the Arab/desert world, where is the scientific paper that justified this statement? The truth is that there is none. This is a point made for Muslim's consumers only, it has no basis for rationality because adolescent and faster growth, among girl, has a lot to do with the amount of food and medications available. A girl from a richer home with good food and medication 24/7, has a tendency of entering physical maturity than a girl from a poor home. It is a known fact that the Arabs, who live in the desert and pure sand, have less access to food than their counterpart who live in the rain forest or close to the sea. How can the Arabs of Mohammed's period develop more physically than the Europeans of that time? It not possible. You use Arizona, US, to justify Islamic practices of prebuscenth and by extension to justify Mohammed's marriage to baby Aisha, you get it wrong. The minimum age limit is 16 and not 12 as you wrongly claimed and besides there is no minimum age limit for girls to marry in Islam (Quran 65:5). What do you follow, the non-dynamic Quran/Sharia or the dynamic US constitution? Even if your assumption is right, that a state in the US approved a girl of 12 to marry, that does not still justify Mohammed's (who was 51 yrs) marriage to baby Aisha (who was 6 yrs then). Mohammed should not have acted like his fellow desert barbarians. And FYI, Aisha was initially betrothed to a younger boy, Mutim, before Mohammed claimed allahh showed Aisha to him in a dream hence made it lawful for him to marry. Mohammed played a similar stunt on zaid ibn Mohammed, when he said allahh showed him zainab (zaid's wife) in a trance hence made her lawful for him to marry (Qur'an 33:37, the history of al-tabari vol 8, page 2-4). Lastly, you couldn't give reasons why Mohammed married baby Aisha because you know too well that they are irrational. Danke, |
Auki:While I might agree with you that the generic name for God in Arabic is allaahh, that does not mean that the allahh arab-christians called is the same for the allahh arab-muslims call. They are 2 different allahh but have the same name for their separate adherants. The Yorubas called their ancestral God 'eledumare' long before Christianity was introduced to them. However after the introduction of Christian beliefs among the Yoruba, most also chosed to call the Christian God eledumare. Allahh was a pre-islamic deity worshipped by Mohammed's ancestors. Mohammed's father was a pagan named abdullah ibn abdulmutalib. Abdullah means 'slave of allahh' which shows that Mohammed didn't preach a new allahh different from his father's pagan religion, he only upgraded it to be of equal status to the Jewish monotheism by abolishing the meccan multi-religious and multi-cutural settings and gave his father's pagan religion supremacy over all other religions in his domain. Hubal was another deity worshipped in the pre-islamic Arabia, but allahh got an eminence status among the Arabs because most Arabs are Muslims who have adopted allahh as their god. |
plappville:Don't mind the idiot. Anyone that justifies a man of 54 sleeping with a 9-yr old girl, just as Mohammed did to little Aisha, is a potential psychiatric patient. Yes, in the olden days our mothers marry early, like @ the ages of 16, 17 or 18. There is no any documented or oral evidence that shows that our past women/mother got married at 9, none. Our ancestors have a great sense of responsibility and mortality towards women hence cannot marry them off when they are 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 or 11. They allow women to mature both emotionally and physically so as to be able to cope with the stress of family-hood. The Arabs/Mohammed only came to destroy African culture with respect to the sanctity of marriage between two consenting adults. A man of 51 and a little Aisha of 6 can never be a relationship of 2 consenting adults. Any African man defending Mohammed's marriage to Aisha is a fooll. |
lexiconkabir:No one will slit my throat if I abandon Christianity, unlike Islam. This is what makes Islam a very evil and dangerous belief system. How can freedom of religion and conscience be termed apostasy if Islam is not a demonic religion? You need not follow Arab religious ideology which had made nature curse their land and make a desert. Any place Islam take root eventually becomes desert and cursed. |
The subject should have been: 7 areas the Quran quoted the bible. The Quran quoted the Bible here to prove it own point because both books are different in their ideology and style of composition. Just a reminder, the old testament Hebrew scripture had been in place for over 2000 years before Islam/Mohammed's Quran while the new testament Christian scripture had been in place for almost 600 years before Islam/Mohammed. So Quran must have copied from existing scriptures which Mohammed was familiar with. |
Abdulgaffar22:You always create a thread only to run away. Why are you wasting nairaland bandwidth when you know you lack basic debate skills? Seems you are a kid who is new on nairaland. |
jonbellion:You can call yourself whatever you like and believe whatever you like, but don't me more Islamic than the Muslims because that's what your writing portrayed. I quoted both the violent Quranic verses and the hadith but you chosed to ignore the koranic passages which mandates warfare against the kafirs. More than 40% of the koran is obsessed with allahh's hatred of the kafirs, which composes 90% of humanity. Why is this so? And on the ha-death, it is part and parcel of Islamic source material. You are defending what you are completely ignorant of. On the history of the Inquisition, can you please tell us what brought about the Inquisition? The Arab/Turkish invasion of Portugal and Spain, via conquest and how the Arabs/Turkish were later forcefully expelled after more than 300 years of illegal and immoral occupation of non-muslim part of the hemisphere? |
jonbellion:Your points have no connection with reality. See what your evil Koran said: Koran 9:29: 'Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled'. Is this a defensive or offensive war? Quran 8:39: 'And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.' Is this a defensive or offensive war? You deceive yourself, as a normal lying Muslim, to say that Muslims do not believe in the ha-death. FYI, 90% of sharia laws come from the ha-death. The 5 pillars of Islam is not in the koran but in the hadith. Going to hajj is not in the quran but in the hadith. Worshipping at the kabba or running around the kabba is not in the quran but in the ha-death. And thousands of arab\islamic practices are found in the ha-death and not the koran. As a matter of fact, the koran is only a miniature of Islam compared to the sunnah as contained in the ha-death. It seems you are totally ignorant of Islam and its threat against non-muslims. All civilization conquered by Islam are never regained except Portugal and Spain which forcefully expelled the Muslims during the period of the Inquisition. Read history bro, you are either deceptive or have zero idea about the so-called 'religion of war peace'. |
jonbellion:Sorry bro, no terrorist hijacked Islam. Islam is all about terror. Mohammed, in his own word said, 'I HAVE BEEN MADE VICTORIOUS THROUGH TERROR' (sahih Bukhari 4:52:225). And in Quran 9:29, Mohammed asked Muslims to fight anyone who does not believe in allahh or the last and those who do not forbid those thing Mohammed forbid.... Is this a defensive war or an offensive war? Mohammed also asked Muslim to always prepare for war against non-muslims (Quran 8:60) and use terror against the enemies of allaahh). Stop lying, the internet is exposing Islamic lies and propaganda. |
APCsupporter:I know you do not lack comprehension skill but you are just forming lack of ability to comprehend a non-complex statement. View the quranic verse below and the supporting ha-death: Qur’an 69:44-46—And if he (Muhammad) had forged a false saying concerning Us We surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might), and then certainly should have cut off his life artery (Aorta). (Hilali-Khan). Sahih al-Bukhari 4428—The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O Aishah! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.” Don't get it twisted, I never said he disobeyed all. Mohammed can never disobey allahh because Mohammed can never go wrong as far as allahh is concerned. Allahh promised to cut the aorta of mohammed (quran 69:44-46) if he was a false prophet and Mohammed in pain, after taking a food poison, confessed that he felt his aorta is being cut off (sahih bhukhari 4428). What other proof do you need to learn that Mohammed was a fake prophet? Am I the one that wrote the quran or narrated the ha-death? |
APCsupporter:OK, I have heard you. Back to the topic, allahh said he would severe Mohammed's aorta if he was a fake prophet and Mohammed's aorta was severed through a poison administered to him by a Jewish woman in khaibar. Do you still take Mohammed as a prophet after this disgrace by allahh? |
APCsupporter:Deal with the topic and stop taking it personal with me. The thread is about your prophet who died of food poison which validated the quran on the falsehood of the alleged prophethood of Mohammed. If Mohammed cannot survive a food poison, as an alleged prophet of allahh, that means that no Muslim can survive it. |
APCsupporter:Don't be a fooll, victims of food poisoning do not take it to prove a point but happen accidentally. I know Islam do not permit logic and common sense. If your Mohammed knew that the roasted goat he ate was poisoned he wouldn't have taken it. As a matter of fact he spit out some of the poisoned goat meat he took after he discovered it was poisoned. God, though promised to always save his people yet he asked them to be watchful and prayerful. It is insanity to deliberately took a poison and expect God to perform magic. God is not a magician. You can't close your eyes while driving and expect God to protect you while driving. Wisdom is key bro. Stop thinking like a typical irrational Mohammedan. |
APCsupporter:Sorry bro, I am not Mohammed who died of food poison he ate at khaibar. You are free not to believe my testimony because, according to your belief, if allahh could not save Mohammed, how can he save me? The God that delivered me is not allahh, so take your anger and doubt elsewhere. My question to you: why did allahh allow his greatest prophet to die a shameful death, that is ordinary food poison? |
@ abdulgaffar22, I'm sorry to say this, your style of writing is very poor and also childish. No paragraph, no bulleting of points, no orderly arrangement of taught, etc. You should learn how to arrange your essay or article well. That aside, I brought out the hadith that exposed your Mohammad as a fake and a fraud, where he felt life artery was being cut off after eating a poison at the battle of khaibar. The Quran was very clear about the punishment Mohammad will get and the hadith accurately recorded the pain Mohammad felt after eating the poison. For the sake of having a better understanding of the events let us re-examine the quran and the hadith with respect to what led to the death of Mohammad. Quranic Verdict (various translations): Qur’an 69:44-46—And if he (Muhammad) had forged a false saying concerning Us We surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might), and then certainly should have cut off his life artery (Aorta). (Hilali-Khan) Qur’an 69:44-46—And if he had invented false sayings concerning Us, We assuredly had taken him by the right hand and then severed his life-artery. (Pickthall) Qur’an 69:44-46—Had he invented lies concerning Us, We would have seized him by the right hand and severed his heart’s vein. (Dawood) Qur’an 69:44-46—And if he had fabricated against Us some of the sayings, We would certainly have seized him by the right hand, then We would certainly have cut off his aorta. (Shakir) MUSLIM COMMENTARIES: Tafsir Ibn Abbas on Qur’an 69:44-46—(And if he had invented) and had Muhammad invented (false sayings concerning Us) lies against Us and attributed to Us that which We did not say, (We assuredly had taken him) We assuredly had taken revenge against him (by the right hand) by means of truth and proofs; it is also said this means: We assuredly had vehemently taken him. (And then severed his life artery) the life artery of Muhammad (pbuh). Tafsir Jalalayn on Qur’an 69:44-46—And had he, namely, the Prophet (s), fabricated any lies against Us, by communicating from Us that which We have not said, We would have assuredly seized him, We would have exacted vengeance [against him], as punishment, by the Right Hand, by [Our] strength and power; then We would have assuredly severed his life-artery, the aorta of the heart, a vein that connects with it, and which if severed results in that person’s death. Tafsir Ibn Kathir on Qur’an 69:46—(And then We certainly would have cut off Al-Watin from him,) Ibn ‘Abbas said, “It (Al-Watin) refers to the artery of the heart, and it is the vein that is attached to the heart.” This has also been said by ‘Ikrimah, Sa’id bin Jubayr, Al-Hakim, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak, Muslim Al-Batin and Abu Sakhr Humayd bin Ziyad. HADITH REFERENCES: Sahih al-Bukhari 2588—Aisha said, “When the Prophet became sick and his condition became serious, he requested his wives to allow him to be treated in my house, and they allowed him. He came out leaning on two men while his feet were dragging on the ground.” Sahih al-Bukhari 2617—A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and was asked, “Shall we kill her?” He said, “No.” Anas added: “I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah’s Messenger.” Sahih al-Bukhari 2797—The Prophet said, . . . “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then come back to life and then get martyred, and then come back to life again and then get martyred and then come back to life again and then get martyred.” Sahih al-Bukhari 4428—The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O Aishah! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.” Sahih Muslim 5430—A Jewess came to Allah’s Messenger with poisoned mutton and he took of what had been brought to him. (When the effects of this poison were felt by him) he called for her and asked her about that, whereupon she said: I had determined to kill you. Thereupon he said: Allah will never give you the power to do it. From the reference above, it was clear that Mohammed, with his own mouth and in great pain, confessed that he felt his aorta is being cut off from the poison he eat. While I do not accept Mohammed as a prophet, he placed a powerful curse upon himself which came to fulfillment. Your attempt at spinning and making excuses for Mohammed on this matter made no sense. No any true prophet of God will die of ordinary food poison. I ate food poison during my service year, I called on pastors to pray for me and today I'm still alive. I'm not even a prophet or a man of God, just an ordinary person. So its a shame that your greatest man even ever could not survive an ordinary food poison, even after applying various treatment, medications and prayers. In Sunah al-tirmidih vol 4, page 401, hadith number 2068, Mohammed used to eat 'Ajwah date' as a remedy for the poison but it failed to heal Mohammed. You can also see sahih bhukari 2:15:73. When the 'ajwah date' did not solve Mohammed's poison problem, he tried another method and that is cupping the alleged poisonous blood from his body. You can also see this in ibn sa'd volume 2 pages 202. When cupping did not work, Mohammed decided to blow his breath upon his own body. You can also see this in ibn sa'd volume 2 page 211. When blowing did not work, Mohammed asked his youngest wife whom he married at age 6 and starting sleeping with at age 9, that is Aisha, to start robbing him with his own hands (Mohammed's hand). You can also see this in ibn sa'd vol 2 page 211. Even 'angel jubril' prayed for Mohammed without solution to this poison problem. Sunnan ibn sa'd vol 2 page 213. So you can see even your prophet sought remedy for the food poison he ate without success. I know you will say 'allahh knows best' but the truth is that allahh knows nothing about this. Mohammed only paid the ultimate price for his invasion of khaibar and the killing, looting and rapings his sahabas carried out after the invasion. |
BetaThings:So your allahh and Hillary Clinton, who called millions of Americans 'the deplorables and the irredeemables' because the don't want to vote for her, are now operating on the same level. As I have said earlier, allahh is just Mohammed's working tool to manipulate the ignorant Arabs into submission to his selfish desires. Even Aisha, his 6-yr old 'wife' attested to Mohammed's criminal behaviors in the name of allahh. You are smarter than believing the lies of the pedofile Mohammed. |
CSTR2:Fela's mother is a ghanaian so he is not a full afonja. Fela's thinks more like a ghanaian, more honest and hardworking people, than an afonja. |
annunaki2:Both the Sunnis and the shites are tyrants in nature, the difference is the population. The Sunnis enjoy demographic advantage hence it is easy for them to oppress the shite, if the reverse is the case, the shite will also oppress the Sunnis. Islam is all about oppressing an opposite ideology and intolerant of kafirs (Quran 9:29). However it is a great news to we kafirs that there is aggressive battle between the Islamic Sunnis and shia, at least the kafir can exploit this loophole. Islamic disunity is a blessing to mankind. |
Rilwayne001:In one hadith Mohammed was in the same bed in between Fatima and Ali: narrated 'Ali: Fatima complained of the suffering caused to her by the hand mill. Some Captives were brought to the Prophet, she came to him but did not find him at home 'Aisha was present there to whom she told (of her desire for a servant). When the Prophet came, Aisha informed him about Fatima's visit. Ali added "So the Prophet came to us, while we had gone to our bed I wanted to get up but the Prophet said, "Remain at your place". Then he sat down between us till I found the coolness of his feet on my chest. Then he said, "Shall I teach you a thing which is better than what you have asked me? When you go to bed, say, 'Allahu-Akbar' thirty-four times, and 'Subhan Allah thirty-three times, and 'Alhamdu-lillah thirty-three times for that is better for you both than a servant." (Sahih Al-Bukhari 4:53:344, 5:57:55, 7:64:274, 8:75:330) Mohammed slept in her daughter's matrimonial bed, together with the new couple, Fatima and Ali. And fya, Mohammed's grand children look more like Mohammed than Ali: |
annunaki2:Do you have abdulgaffar22's contact? I need him ask him some Islamic questions but he seems to have ran away in shame with the way his pedofile prophet died. The acid test he wanted to use to validate the prophethood of his dear prophet seems to have backfired. |
Where is Abdulgaffar22? |
Abdulgaffar22:Narrated Ibn Abbas: 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to let Ibn Abbas sit beside him, so 'AbdurRahman bin 'Auf said to 'Umar, "We have sons similar to him." 'Umar replied, "(I respect him) because of his status that you know." 'Umar then asked Ibn 'Abbas about the meaning of this Holy Verse:-- "When comes the help of Allah and the conquest of Mecca . . ." (110.1) Ibn 'Abbas replied, "That indicated the death of Allah's Apostle which Allah informed him of." 'Umar said, "I do not understand of it except what you understand." Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison ." Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713. Narrated 'Aisha: "When the Prophet became seriously ill and his disease became aggravated he asked for permission from his wives to be nursed in my house and he was allowed. He came out with the help of two men and his legs were dragging on the ground. He was between Al-Abbas and another man." 'Ubaid Ullah said, "I told Ibn 'Abbas what 'Aisha had narrated and he said, 'Do you know who was the (second) man whose name 'Aisha did not mention'" I said, 'No.' Ibn 'Abbas said, 'He was 'Ali Ibn Abi Talib.' " Sahih Bukhari 1:11:634 Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle . Sahih Bukhari 3:47:786. Narrated 'Aisha and Ibn 'Abbas: On his death-bed Allah's Apostle put a sheet over his-face and when he felt hot, he would remove it from his face. When in that state (of putting and removing the sheet) he said, "May Allah's Curse be on the Jews and the Christians for they build places of worship at the graves of their prophets." (By that) he intended to warn (the Muslim) from what they (i.e. Jews and Christians) had done. Sahih Bukhari 4:56:660. From your own source documents, it was 100% proven that your prophet was a real fake. The Quran spelt out the punishment for Mohammed and your hadith confirmed it. Mohammed aorta or artery was finally cut off or severed in fulfilment of what he said in the Quran. This alone made him fake because there is no prophet, in the Bible, that died of food poisoning. Elijah ate poison but it did not have any effect on him. Apostle paul was bitten by snake and it had no effect on him, why did Mohammed die of food poisoning and his aorta destroyed? |
annunaki2:How can allahh call the Christians and the Jews 'the worst of creatures' (evil Koran 98:6) and call muzlimes the 'best of mankind' (evil koran 3:110-111) and remain the word of a sane god? allahh is surely insane for calling me a bad name because of the fact that I reject him and his pedofile profiteer Mohammed. |
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let's reason together this way; Some people say Aisha was 14yrs when the prophet married her, some say she was 9yrs (commonest) and some say 11yrs. Irrespective of what we believe, one thing for sure is, we can never know for sure how Aishat was (psychologically and physically) when the Noble Prophet married her. Even the so called 14yrs is not even based on our own modern calculation of age (using solar years and 24hrs time) and also in Islam we don't use age to peg maturity rather we use physical (puberty) and psychological (ability to make rational decision) means. We are now in a quagmire since neither you nor me ever saw Aisha to evaluate her therefore we will have no choice but to go to what Islam says about marriage. In Islam there are 4 pillars for the marriage to be legal/acceptable and number 1 is consent from the girl in question. Now, based on our modern assessment, is it possible to accept consent from a 9-14 year old girl? The answer is NO !!! Not even a 15-16yr old girl (that's why they are not allowed to open an account till 18 except with their parent/guardian because psychologically they are incapable of some rational decisions). So therefore marriage to any girl of this age bracket (9-14) is not acceptable Islamically because it is impossible for you to obtain a valid consent from them. In conclusion, if Islam is totally against paedophilia and under aged marriage as explained above, then why would the Noble Prophet engage in such. I therefore believe if we reason together this way, we would educate ourselves better and have more understanding and tolerance for each other. Thanks for your time in reading this lengthy response....!!!
:yet Jesus said if anyone says here is Christ or there,DO NOT