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APCsupporter:
What do you have to say about your god that had sex with mary?

Proof.

APCsupporter:
In summary I think it is allowed but not encouraged.

You mean child marriage is allowed but not encouraged? Who allowed child marriage, Mohammed or decent people?

APCsupporter:
Op don't mind those ignorant Islamophobes that quoted you. You should have asked the question in our section.

As for your Question, no Qur'an or Hadith mentioned the age in which a woman should get married. Prophet Muhammad (SAW) didn't have sex with Aisha until when she got matured enough. Since studies have shown that ladies who give birth to children at a young age are prone to certain dangers and the Shariah is concerned with our health, it is encouraged that a female should fully mature first before getting married. Allah knows best

It is insanity for a man of 51 to lust after a 6 yr old girl who is young enough to be a grand daughter. Mohammed marriage to Aisha is a bad example to follow and this alone disqualifies him from being a responsible man let alone a prophet.

MDsambo:
What does the verse say?

Quran 65:4: And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

The above ayah talked about the waiting period before a divorced woman can remarry in an Islamic state. There are three classes of women mentioned above, all married. The list are:

1) Women who have reached menopause.

2) Women who never mensurated.

3) The pregnant women.

My interest is on the second category, that is women who never mensurated. Girls who never mensurated will be between the ages of 1 to 12, as the case may be. So in Islam, according to Quran 65:4, girls who never mensurated can be married and divorced. A perfect example is the marriage of Mohammed to Aisha. Mohammed married Aisha when she was 6 and started having sex with her when she became 9.

No age limit for girls before they can marry in Islamic states like Saudi arabia and Iran. A girl of 4 can be married to a man of 40, it is part of the sunnah of the Islamic prophet.

Even in the hadith the prophet of allahh asked a Muslim to marry a Virgin who will be more suitable for sweet sex:
Sahih al-Bukhari 2967—Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: . . . When I took the permission of Allah’s Messenger, he asked me whether I had married a virgin or a matron and I replied that I had married a matron. He said, “Why hadn’t you married a virgin who would have played with you, and you would have played with her?” I replied, “O Allah’s Messenger! My father died (or was martyred) and I have some young sisters, so I felt it not proper that I should marry a young girl like them who would neither teach them manners nor serve them.”

You can see that Mohammed encouraged underage marriage and sex, both in the hadith and the Qur'an. If Muslims read the Qur'an, study and analyse its content it would have been better, but most Muslims only recite Arabic quran , like parrots, with zero or little understanding.

Islam encourages child marriage bro and Mohammed was a pedofile.

nurusystem:
Allah will surely punish you..

alah cannot punish anyone because he is just an Arabian demon. Wise up black brother.

Where is abdulgaffar22? Please dont run, we need your input.

Empiree:
Stop giving him excuses. Would you be happy if a Muslim destroy a church even though he doesn't kill worshipers?

I won't be happy, but your prophet did the same by attacking his fellow pagan worshippers in mecca. Muslims worldwide are proud of Mohammed's war against his fellow idol worshippers in mecca and his military conquest of mecca.

dorox:
Here is another video from the Masked Arab, a former muslim that used stories from the Quran to show why Muhammed is false.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRICs4iJd1w

The masked arab should remain masked or else good muslims will kill him in obedience to the prophet of allahh who said, in one of the hadeath: 'whoever change his islamic religion KILL HIM'. The most important thing is that more muslims are now reading and analyzing their wholy quran rather than cramming arabic quran with zero understanding of what they read.

kafir akbar!

MDsambo:
Verse from the Qur'an pls...

Quran 65:4.

bigybanty02:
. Bros the thing tire me oo. Yet some people are doing everything humanly possible to prove to us that Muhammed is a true prophet of the most high God....even to the extend of useing bible. . Allah never condemn Muhammed for doing something stupid and nasty ,rather he will give him revelation/ayat to back it up and i keep asking my self who is Allah and who is Muhammed

May be you should look at this thread: who is the boss, allahh or Mohammed?
www.nairaland.com/3354336/boss-allah-mohammed

plappville:
Poor innocent kids. Islam has made many Arabs homeless. Pathetic!

Since the beginning of Islam, the Arabs/Muslims have always depend on the kafirs for survival. It is always looting of kafirs, asking for jizya (Quran 9:29) or going on a hijra to the land of the kafirs, all for survival of Muslims and Islam.

No Arab nation is conducive for living, except the gulf states who the kafirs are paying heavily for their oil and gas (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq). Without oil, Muslim-arabs will kill and loot each other for survival. That's the nature of the Arabs in the desert before and after Islam.

Demmzy15:
Olodo no fit spell "trafficking", I no know say e pain you like this o? Olori Pelebe!

Oh, just remembered that u are a 14-yr old troll on nairaland, drop that phone before your mama comes back. Will buy u candy for that. Gud boy!

Farmerforlife:
I have defined paedophilia already. Islam does not permit any form of sexual contact with prepubescent children.

Quran 65:4:
'And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

If you read this ayah very well, you will see that it is acceptable, in Islam. to marry under age girls who are yet to see their first menstruation. Islam permits marriage and divorce for prebuscent girls.
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65:5 ▶ Play

nextprince:
Everyone must not be "hardworking" and "developing" cos we are not all born with flaaaaaaaatttttt heads. How does ur drug trafficking in other countries increase Nigeria's GDP or solve the problem of corruption in Nigeria?

May God curse be upon you, except if I'm into drug trafiking.

nextprince:
Good one. Very much proud of them. GOD IS THE GREATEST.

How does this increase Nigeria's GDP or solve the problem of corruption on Nigeria?

I am waiting for the day the Arabs will start learning how to speak and recite books in our language. Cultural imperialism and Arab supremacy.

nextprince:
Good one. Very much proud of them. GOD IS THE GREATEST.

How does this increase Nigeria's GDP or solve the problem of corruption on Nigeria?

true2god:
Can you show me a single verse in the Quran that encouraged freeing slaves? Islam of Mohammed (not Islam of Nigeria or Yoruba Islam), was 100% involved in slave trade, even when the Europeans knew nothing about slave trade. As a matter of fact, the Europeans learnt the business of slave trade from Mohammed and the Arabs.

Even the ways slaves and war booty are to shared are well documented in the Quran. Mohammed was to receive 20% of all war booty, which include female sex slaves, according to the Qur'an. Mohammed spent the last 13 years of his life in fighting wars against non-muslims and taking their goods and property and war booty. This was how Mohammed new Islamic state was able to finance his govt and his expensive lifestyle.

After the death of khadijah, Mohammed's rich first wife, Mohammed had no any source of income. It was the ummah that sustained him because he had no job. When the ummah, especially the rich ones like Abu Bakr, could no longer sustain him, Mohammed had to receive revelation from allahh to declared war on the kafirs with the sole aim of looting their property and taking their women (Quran 8:1).

A good example is Mohammed's declaration of war against the rich Jewish tribe of khaibar (sahih Bukhari 1:8:367). Mohammed declared war solely for looting, stealing and taking sex slaves. Mohammed, at khaibar, arrested one of the Jews, named khinana, and asked him where he kept their gold and other valuables (ibn ishaq pages 414 to 418). Kihnana denied that he had no gold and when Mohammed discovered that he lied, he ordered him killed by his cousin (named Akhmed) and took the gold from kihnana.

Kihnana was engaged to safiya before Mohammed's khaibar invasion. After Mohammed's murder of Kihnana, he took safiya as his wife. But before that, it was one of the sahabas, named Dhiya, that saw the beauty of safiya and decided to take safiya for himself. But one of the more loyal friend of Mohammed reported the beauty of safiya to Mohammed (sahih Bukhari 1:8:367) hence the prophet of allahh decided to take safiya from Dhiya in exchange for seven slaves (sunnah ibn majjah vol 3, hadith Number 2272).

Go back and study your religion and the sunnah of Mohammed. He is nothing but a thief and a criminal.

Sunnah ibn majjah vol. 3, book 12, is all about business transactions in Islam. And among the business transactions Mohammed engaged was the buying of slaves, among which is safiya, whom Mohammed bought from Dhiya in exchange for seven slaves (in hadith number 2272).

The main reason he bought safiya was to take her as a sex slave. No sane woman will marry a man who killed her husband, father and brothers. Mohammed killed safiya's entire family and later 'married' her.

If you take this evil character as a prophet or a perfect man, you better change that perception. Mohammed was evil to the core.

EazyMoh:
Can you please bullet out my lies?

Can you show me a single verse in the Quran that encouraged freeing slaves? Islam of Mohammed (not Islam of Nigeria or Yoruba Islam), was 100% involved in slave trade, even when the Europeans knew nothing about slave trade. As a matter of fact, the Europeans learnt the business of slave trade from Mohammed and the Arabs.

Even the ways slaves and war booty are to shared are well documented in the Quran. Mohammed was to receive 20% of all war booty, which include female sex slaves, according to the Qur'an. Mohammed spent the last 13 years of his life in fighting wars against non-muslims and taking their goods and property and war booty. This was how Mohammed new Islamic state was able to finance his govt and his expensive lifestyle.

After the death of khadijah, Mohammed's rich first wife, Mohammed had no any source of income. It was the ummah that sustained him because he had no job. When the ummah, especially the rich ones like Abu Bakr, could no longer sustain him, Mohammed had to receive revelation from allahh to declared war on the kafirs with the sole aim of looting their property and taking their women (Quran 8:1).

A good example is Mohammed's declaration of war against the rich Jewish tribe of khaibar (sahih Bukhari 1:8:367). Mohammed declared war solely for looting, stealing and taking sex slaves. Mohammed, at khaibar, arrested one of the Jews, named khinana, and asked him where he kept their gold and other valuables (ibn ishaq pages 414 to 418). Kihnana denied that he had no gold and when Mohammed discovered that he lied, he ordered him killed by his cousin (named Akhmed) and took the gold from kihnana.

Kihnana was engaged to safiya before Mohammed's khaibar invasion. After Mohammed's murder of Kihnana, he took safiya as his wife. But before that, it was one of the sahabas, named Dhiya, that saw the beauty of safiya and decided to take safiya for himself. But one of the more loyal friend of Mohammed reported the beauty of safiya to Mohammed (sahih Bukhari 1:8:367) hence the prophet of allahh decided to take safiya from Dhiya in exchange for seven slaves (sunnah ibn majjah vol 3, hadith Number 2272).

Go back and study your religion and the sunnah of Mohammed. He is nothing but a thief and a criminal.

EazyMoh:
Well you can choose whatever you want to believe. But you know slavery predated Islam, so it was already an institution on its own before Islam. If anything Islam discouraged slavery and encouraged emancipation of slaves. That fact you can't deny.
Any individual, group or country that still practices slavery have no Islamic justification in doing so. And am not aware of any.

Your lies are getting too embarrassing. Mohammed, your perfect man, bought and sell slaves and he did not abolish slavery.

Mohammed bought safiya, who he killed her husband, kihnana (ibn ishaq pages 414 to 418) from Dhiya in exchange of seven slaves (sunnah ibn majjah vol 3, hadith number 2272). He also slept with safiya after killing her parents in the battle of khaibar.

Mohammed also encouraged taking woman as war booty and sex slaves. Nothing ISIS is currently doing that Mohammed did not do. Nothing! It takes an irrational mind to defend the criminal acts of Mohammed. All his evil acts and instructions are written in black and white, both in the Qur'an and the hadith.

FriendChoice:
Bring the remove verse sir, I think Christians existed during the time, they must have a copy bring it sir.


This day have I perfected for you your religion and completed my favor on you and chosen for you Islam as a religion. Qur'an, 5:3

Is this hadith a weak, fabricated or authentic?:

"...Umar b. Khattab sat on the pulpit of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Verily Allah sent Muhammad (may peace be upon him) with truth and He sent down the Book upon him, and the verse of stoning was included in what was sent down to him. We recited it, retained it in our memory and understood it. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) awarded the punishment of stoning to death (to the married adulterer and adulteress) and, after him, we also awarded the punishment of stoning, I am afraid that with the lapse of time, the people (may forget it) and may say: We do not find the punishment of stoning in the Book of Allah, and thus go astray by abandoning this duty prescribed by Allah. stoning is a duty laid down in Allah's Book for married men and women who commit adultery when proof is established, or it there is pregnancy, or a confession...."
Sahih Muslim 17:4914

This is your Islamic source document compiled and documented by Islamic 'scholars'. Your ability to verify the authenticity of the hadith will enable me ask more questions as to your claim on the Qur'an.

Besides, the Quran is filled with hatred for the Christian and the Jews and even called for their harm (Quran 5:51, Quran 9:29, Qur'an 8:39, Qur'an 98:6, Qur'an 8:60). How can a supposedly holy book call for war and hatred against people who do not believe in allahh, Mohammed or the Quran?

plappville:
It just proves that Saudis has the right to stop anyone from coming to alla.h...

The Saudis own allahh, period! In the pre-islamic era, people come to Mecca, from all Arabia, to display their idols like the modern trade fair where people show-case their goods.

Since allahh belongs to the Saudis, they have right to deny any non-saudi, or non-sunni, right to worship their pagan allahh. Currently, the ahmadiyya, the shia, the sufis are not allowed in Mecca to worship allahh. Iran has an exception, since they are 99% shia hence necessary to allow them pay homage to allahh. Non-iranian shias cannot enjoy this rare privilege.

Kafir Akbar!

plappville:
Yet Saudi has the right to refuse Iranian citizens visa from coming to hajj this year. Because of their dispute. Are they not superior than others? Keep deceiving yourselves.

Iranians are lucky that the Saudis deny them visa to pay homage to their pagan shrine. It is a good news. I pray the Iranians start using their brains and jettison the Arabian moon deity called allahh.

Kafir Akbar!

Quran 9:29, Qur'an 8:39, Qur'an 8:60

plappville:
Of a truth, Muham.mad was a terror ! !

sahih Bukhari 4:52:220.

masseratti:
am not derailing your thread whatsoever,I only point out an erroneous perception by our Muslim brothers, that saidam out of thread thank you.

OK. That means we are on the same page.

shadeyinka:
Mohammed even gets away with grevious thing s like marrying his adopted sons (Zaid) wife (Zainab). Allah responded by
1. Consoling his prophet
2. Declaring illegal adoption
3. Making it legal thereafter to do same as a result of 2.

Even Moslems and idolaters of those days knew that this was very wrong.

Apart from religious fanatism, it is impossible to morally justify such act.

Independent thinking does not exist in Islam: Mohammed actions (sunnah) is their thinking code. No matter the level of evil Mohammed commits, it is acceptable to Muslims but if an ordinary person do same, Muslims will condemn it.

95% of Muslims worldwide condemn marriage to a 6-yr old but will never condemn their prophet doing that.

masseratti:
clear and simple Trinity is not one God split into 3 its God ,son of God and holy spirit God created his son and he created man and any man that follow his laws is his son,the holy ghost is a force,a spirit not a being,not aan or an Angel, its the force that God use to work.

We are not discusson the Trinity but the superior between allahh and Mohammed. Pls don't derail this thread.

Perhaps:
Allah SWT is.

If allahh is the boss to Mohammed, why did he always ensure that nothing makes Mohammed grief? Why is it that Mohammed always violate the law of allahh and allahh will not scold him or correct him, rather will give Mohammed a convenient revelation that approved Mohammed's inordinate desires?

Perhaps:
rue2God, the Islamic Scholar.

Sorry.

It's Islamic online Scholar.

I'm sure you gave yourself the tile after your countless number of hours combing through anti-islam websites.
LOL. If anything, you've done something good with your life.

Islamic Online Scholar.

I just can't stop laughing.

I'd most likely start calling you IOS now.
You know, to reflect your title.

Anyway, to your topic.

I had a very long post to type to you but I think Maserati should have taken care if shutting you up.

Who is the boss, Mohammed or allahh? Make it short and simple.

masseratti:
you are religious scholar, you noticed boss servant relationship but ignored father son relationship, hmmmm I clap

Now back to the topic,if we can all agree Allah God is just,fair,do you think he will use another law to Judge Mohammed apart from everyone?
We should ask questions not because we are born to a faith,Christianity dark ages ended with the birth of printed books now is the turn of Islam with the birth of social media,no where to hide.
If Mohammed was allowed to have more than one wives plus concubines why are others ordered to have only four wives and no concubines?
If a Muslim man can marry a non Muslim woman and his deen is complete,why can't a woman marry a non Muslim and her seen will be complete?
In this age where man and woman are of same population if one man marries four,where are the other men going to get their wives from?
No where in the Bible does it says how many wives you can marry it was only Paul advising the missionaries, its better for you not to even marry if you want to be a missionary and spread the gospel from nations to nation and if you have to ,don't marry more then one wife to lessen the burden on your work.
Evidently we all can't be missionaries, those of us that are not are exempted,and and again it was just an advice not a law or n order.

Learn the truth,and be open minded you qouted the hadhit by bukhari on what Aisha said,
Av you read the story of Mohammed? How he died ?who succeeded him?why he did?have you read about how his only surviving daughter died? How she wasn given her inheritance? Av you read how her husband Ali was forced to pay homage to Aisha father?
Please read with open mind please.

What do you imply? Make yourself clear and simple.