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900warriorz:
Sad...I hope the baby later turns out to be his source of Joy

Not only the baby, even the wife sef fit dey see him as an incomplete being and later walk away.


But this is a tragedy, so sorry bruh

Jennyclay:
I know Nairaland men will have full erection over this post especially the broke and poverty wretched ones

For me, I need more men that will keep spending and lavishing his money on me!

Shikena!!

Opota

Nice2023:
Pampass kisskids size3 is 10k
My boy milk..........#5,500
Nan milk................#7,500.
Lactogen..................#6,000
Pampass half/ size3...#4,900

It is crazy out there.

I don buy Nan milk like mad, my daughter dey try and she no even consider the situation of the corntree na 7500 every 3 days. I wan craze

Jennyclay:
Please support her business and stop ranting!

She’s really good at what she does!

Ranting bi ti bawo


Good work of hand...kudos

epainos:
6 weeks to return
20 days to lay 20 eggs
21 days to hatch....that's approx 75 to 90 days.

That's like 4 to 5 times (at most 6 times) of laying 5 to 20 eggs. So, she lays around 30 to 120 eggs per year.
Of course 120 eggs is an exaggerated figure..lol.

Let's look at it in this direction....let's say I don't need the hen to hatch...so, she just needs to lay eggs only. There is no need to hatch...no need to take 6 weeks to return to laying...all she needs to do is lay eggs and you pick them up and hatch.

Tell me your guess...how many eggs can she lay within a period of time? Just say it the way you can...I will find a way to interpret it further sir.

You are the first person who has tried to answer these questions. Others just cannot. So, I know that they don't understand what they are presently doing. Lol. How can one not have a data to use to make his business progressive? Lol. I smile at times at many threads. Very porous. But one just has to keep it low. Otherwise...hmmm! There is no way you use data and don't operate effectively. You just need it...not just jumping blindly into business and production.... and wasted time and energy

Firstly,Let me call your attention to something... using local hen for eggs production might be a little difficult. If she's laying and you're picking up she will go on exile, laying somewhere hiding. The next time you will see her will be with her chicks.

Now, let's ASSUME, that she keeps laying the spot and you're picking it up daily, local hens will give you 6-7 eggs per week, this is because it takes 24-26 or7 hours for a complete formation of an egg.

In as much as you're feeding her well, she will give you maximum production trust me, but that's if you're only using her for eggs production, and don't forget that it's an assumption...

MODIFIED: I think starting from day old, it takes them 16- around 18 weeks before they start laying eggs

epainos:
Lol!

Hens don't lay eggs because of mating, but they lay fertilized eggs after mating. The criteria for hens laying eggs are: age, light, nutrition, and health. Roosters are only meant for making eggs fertilized. Lol!

If you understand the above, you can start seeing why free range in Nigeria might mean the hens are less productive than what they should.

OK...let me find a simpler way to ask you the question...from your experience...

1. If a hen hatches some eggs today, how long before he lays another set of eggs?

Yeah, I get you... But without mating there's nothing like fertilize eggs.

To your question... It depends on how quick the chicks are ween from her. From my experience, it takes nothing less than 6 week before she go back to laying, and it takes 20-21 days to hatch

epainos:
Bro...let's say one does not want them to brood or hatch and one has an incubator, how many eggs can one hen lay in a year? This is my question. Give me an estimation...and show me the maths amd logic behind your answer.

Let me get this straight, how do you want to be obtaining the eggs, through feeding of layers feed or mating from the Cock?

wealthyplaces:
It's rented apartment around Magboro and I intend using cage. Thank you for these ideas.

Like I said, they may not be adapted to cage, not that they won't survive but their performance won't be up to per.

epainos:
I'm still trying to get the maximum number of eggs they can lay.

For example, layers start with around 3 eggs per week. At the peak, they lay 6 and start declining. So, I figure out 5 to 5.5 eggs per week so that layers give 286 eggs per year. And of course it should be over 300 sef.

So, could you make an estimation of the number of eggs they can lay per week, per month, or per year? If not that much, then the focus should be meat production like broilers. But then, my fear is their sizes.

My friend, no one... absolutely no one has been able to answer my questions. All they post is that local breeds are profitable when they have not survived a year in the business. With 3 months max, you will know if broilers production is for you. And layers already have a template on the ground.

I agree. I don't know all... and here are the questions I like to find answers to. Kindly help out.

Ones they started laying they do it consecutively till the day they decided to stop and start sleeping on it. So, it's every day laying, though, their eggs is never as big as the layers but more quality than it. So if you don't mind the size, they are good for eggs production.

epainos:
It's not my intention. No vex if you are annoyed. Perhaps I should have used another way to express my view.


I don't claim to know all. And hey... if you get this...its impressive.

I'm still trying to get the maximum number of eggs they can lay.

For example, layers start with around 3 eggs per week. At the peak, they lay 6 and start declining. So, I figure out 5 to 5.5 eggs per week so that layers give 286 eggs per year. And of course it should be over 300 sef.

So, could you make an estimation of the number of eggs they can lay? If not that much, then the focus should be meat production like broilers. But then, my fear is their sizes.

My friend, no one... absolutely no one has been able to answer my questions. All they post is that local breeds are profitable when they have not survived a year in the business. With 3 months max, you will know if broilers production is for you. And layers already have a template on the ground.

I agree. I don't know all... and here are the questions I like to find answers to. Kindly help out.

Cc: wealthyplaces

What are your questions ⁉️

epainos:
First, you need to learn. The cost of feeding is extremely high, and it continues to rise. So, if you are not very good, you will not make a profit. So, it is best to start small with no intention of selling in order to learn everything thoroughly. Alternatively, you can sell with some initial losses. If you can do this, you have the ability to learn.

Eggs are easier to sell than meat, so you may want to think about it now. Meat used to be the better option, but it is difficult to sell these days, except around Christmas.

You will purchase day-old broiler chicks for meat, and there are several types. You need to know which one to buy for your market. Also, your cage must be in good condition. You can buy day-old eggs as well, but you will not be able to produce eggs until 5 months. As a result, you must continue to feed them for another 5 to 6 months before producing anything. You can, however, buy some that have been grown for three to four months. It is extremely risky, but people do it anyway. I would not do it, which is why I have to sell meat to support myself because it is a six-week cycle.

The question is, how do you intend to sell your meat? At what price? Go find out. If you can sell whole processed chicken for 4,000 per kg, you can profit by N2,000 per bird if you do not pay salaries. As a result, you may want to budget around N3k per kg for live chicken. Analysis is for today. It changes so fast, so one must follow the market closely.

If you get into wellness and can find customers who eat organic meat, you will have a solid market. This is what you should aim for. Depending on how your product is packaged, you can sell it for between N5k and N10k per kg. You will need a solid understanding of how to raise chickens without antibiotics or vaccines. Many people are unable to do it, but this is what I do.


Why are you telling him to buy all those malnutritional birds? Why not start from day old?

Don't listen to this. Start your journey from the beginning. Learn the rope very well.
etc.

What I explained above is for broiler and layers because I don't believe in local slow birds. They produce fewer eggs, too. If you want to do free range, I prefer noiler, and you start from day old also. But if you really want to do local fowls, then you should buy some young mothers hen that are still laying very well and a cock. Start producing your chicks immediately. Why would you first buy growers....wait for like 6 mths before they start laying eggs and you start multiplying your chickens. Start the multiplication ASAP. Again....I will NEVER go for local fowl because they are not fast growing. Instead, I would rather do cross breeding if I wanted to do them. But really...I would rather do noiler for a start.

You don't rubbish other people's opinions, I'm entitled to mine as you are to yours.

And who told you that you will have to wait for 6 months before they start laying 🥚? I bought mine at a very little age (not even to growers level) and they start laying within 3 months. You might know a lot, but you don't know all, the earlier they have the presence of a cock among them the better and also, they can sometimes go as far as laying 20-plus eggs (that depends on her previous generations).

kay29000:
Hmm...there is very little you can do, unless you cage them. I also have this problem, even though I rare my chickens in my parents house, my sister has a small school in there, and the Noilers always go inside the school for shade when it is sunny, and shit all over. At least, your own local chickens don't shit as much as Noilers.

Caging them will reduce their performance cos they are not adapted to that e.g the Cock running after the hen for puna , and the hen running a whole 1 mile from gbola is one of their adaptive ways and also, when the time comes for the hen yo lay she can't do that conveniently inside the cage

kay29000:
What exactly is the complaint of your neighbors? Do the chickens eat their food, or shit around their entrance?

The later... which I don't know what to do about that.

Gentlesoul2021:
Chai sense no go wound you. U go really keep them shut ooo

Seriously, that'll be case closed

newoffer:
I'm in Lag. Agbara axis. Where can I get the birds.

I don't know about Lag, but I'm in Ogbomosho. And I don't know if it's possible to send from here to Lag for you

Gentlesoul2021:
Eighteen lol be ready for serious dragging but no fold...

I tell you...
But I no send ooo. Though my plan is to give all those complaining one hen each to keep them shut, so at the end of the day it won't be about mine, rather about ours... smiles

wealthyplaces:
I am inspired by this thread to start something new in poultry business though in small scale. Please how do I go about it? I have a small space in my backyard in a rented apartment. What do I buy? From what I've read so far, I intend selling for meat and eggs.
@marhoinspire
@epainos
@redomi
@ade1313
@newoffer
@truthhurts2
@gentlesoul2021
etc
Please I need inputs. How much is the startup cost on a minimum.

It depends, are you living alone in that compound? If not, will they accept it or not?

I don't know which side you are but here, a grower is sold for around 1500, I even bought mine for 1k each. So let's say at 1500, you can start with 4 ( 3 hens and 1 cock)

Gentlesoul2021:
OMG, they will complain, it will look like u inconvenient them even if u get a cage, they will still talk about the smell..
Some landlord will not even allow u, I wonder why they haven't report u to the house owner

Of course, I understand their grief, mind you, before I bought them there are some that do entered and shit around and no one was talking about it.

I don't know what they will say now as soon as eighteen more is added

excanny:
Have u tried enclosing them in a cage? That way they don't disturb other neighbours.

The thing is they thrive better roaming freely and it's less intensive or semi intensive, so caging them won't do them good

Gentlesoul2021:
Neighbor will really frustrate you, if ur family house is near u, u can establish in ur family compound ND be going there to feed them ND look after them...

The the thing, I don't live close to my family house, different state. Just me, my wife and daughter living in a compound containing of six flats. The complain was just too much, I don't know what to do.

I think the only problem here is space, if you're living in your house or a rented apartment, in as much as it is fenced and you live there alone, no neighbors or anybody complaining about them (the native birds) then you're free. Have also started with the local hens around early March this year (3 hens and 1 cock), but 1 hen got killed a week after I bought by one of my neighbors complaining about their shit.

At the moment, the 2 remaining hen joined lay eggs together 18 eggs, in less than 3 weeks they will hatch. The problem now is, the more the hens, the more the complain from my neighbors.

saasala:
Pele my dia

fun emi araare...

Tokskob2008:
It has gotten to the level we now look for alternatives for almost every food item in this country and they say we are moving forward and we shouldn't complain

Abeg who sabi alternatives to garri and beans

That isn't alternative to... It's also tomato in different form. You remove the outer layer, remove the seeds and mix it with pepper, onions etc. I love it

Kobojunkie:
Look at this one! You no shame say you install yourself as possible over how much sex a man or woman can have over a certain period?

You wey you install stick up your arse so you no go go beyond your normal sex limit, have you contributed more to society in your lifetime than those supposedly loose people have in theirs? That line was completely necessary since in this day and age we should all have realized how utterly unreasonable and rude it is to pretend it is one's place to police the activities of others who aren't even our dependents. Again, why do you people reason worse than chickens?

Pls, I would love if you can get this book to read "How to win friends and influence people" by dale Carnegie.


Please do 🙏

Firefly2017:
Why is the chicken on the floor na, don't you have plastic containers in your kitchen Msteeeew. I dislike what I don't like

Does that looked like floor to you?

Barbs so many times with that clipper

I still have that lantern...

Time, indeed really flies

cococandy:
I thought so until I read his responses

For someone who doesn’t do anything at home because he provides but wants to be informed every time his wife goes out with the baby , you can tell he’s an unreasonable task master.

So she’ll call him every time she goes to the store, the market, the pharmacy, etc including every errand? And he is totally unwilling to be reasonable about it

That tells me he’s nit picky. The towel issue on its own is enough to tell me all I need to know

He should go and sit down somewhere

You didn't thought so until you read his response, it was you that fueled the fire before he responded that way...stop lying pls

cococandy:
He needs to stop being so naggy and picky

Little things shouldn’t frustrate a grown adult that much unless he’s basing all his comfort on the actions of his wife. Marks of someone who can’t regulate his internal self

How I wish there's voice notes on NL, there are some things I would have say to you that typing won't do justice to...


I'm not just sure you're married (pls, I'm not trying to sound rude, and if I am, I'm sorry)

chidekings:
i beleive this are just the issues op can remember......a man would easily understand the op.......the woman is frustrating him in little little things he can't possibly lay hands on.

May God bless you abundantly... You spoke my mind

Semo and efo 3 times a day 7 days a week

MDVCONSULTANTS:
People when no even go church still dey do fine.

Is it no clear to you that blessings does not come from the more donations you give in church?.

Every living person is blessed. When you give, it should be from the benevolence of your heart. Not that you were manipulated.

People when no dey go church still dey chop food.
People when no be christians still dey chop food.

Church and it's activities has nothing to do with your opportunities in life. Just be a good person and do the best you can. The rest are out of your hands.

Lobatan!