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Islam › Re: Contradictions In The Quran by truthman2012(op): 8:14am On Mar 07, 2016 |
mustymatic: Confused christian! solve the idea of godhood amongst your fellow Christians before u write nonsense in here again Is it not true that allahh was changing his revelations to manipulate the unsuspecting muslims? Quran 2:106] Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereo. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things? A reasonable person would clearly see allahh's manipulating mislims in that verse. Who gave him the new idea as supposed all-knowing? First, he said he didn't abrogate or cause to be forgotten but replaced his revelations with better ones as if he made mistakes earlier. What is the difference between abrogation and replacement? It doesn't take rocket science to discover allahh is a liar, satan. |
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Islam › Re: Is Islam This Good ? by truthman2012(op): 8:21am On Mar 06, 2016 |
Judas2013: ... You do not know the god of islam. He is satan who pretended as the God of the Bible prophets and again copied the Bible incorrectly. |
Islam › Re: Contradictions In The Quran by truthman2012(op): 8:15am On Mar 06, 2016 |
mustymatic: when approached wt clear answers, u deviate again
how do u expect anyone to deal with your nonsense ideas? Stop deceiving yourself my friend, where is the answer? There are no answers for the contradictions. Allahh himself admitted he was changing his revelations for better ones, like he had somebody giving him ideas. Who is this allahh self? |
Islam › Re: Is Islam This Good ? by truthman2012(op): 10:15pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
No muslim has been able to juxtapose these quranic verses:
Qur'an 25:63 The worshipers of the Most Gracious are those who tread the earth GENTLY, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only UTTER PEACE.
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Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, CRYING for PEACE, when ye should be uppermost.
Allahh was saying muslims should tread the earth gently and utter peace when the ignorant (unbelievers) speak against islam and at the same time telling them not to embrace peace but concentrate on winning battles. Muslims you have a challenge to explain the contradiction to vindicate allahh from being convicted of complicity. |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 7:12pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
TruthHurts1: So yoruba muslims have also started kidnapping 13 year old christian girls? You should be ashamed of yourself. Why can't you kidnap a 13 year old hijabi wearing muslimah and marry her? Don't mind them bro., muslims are capable of doing anythimg evil. Their target is to pollute Christian girls. See Rilwayne01 also wanting to marry who he thought is a Christian girl, when there are numerous hijab wearing girls, some of them so islamic that they look like masquerade. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Wafa Sultan The Bold Ex-Muslim Heroine by truthman2012(m): 3:09pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
I have great respect for this lady joh !!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Wafa Sultan The Bold Ex-Muslim Heroine by truthman2012(m): 3:06pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Annunaki: "there is no way a person can read the quoran and the biography of mohammed, believe in it and remain psychologically and mentally healthy"
Wafa_Sultan Very serious !!!! That is exactly the condition of the muslims. Something is seriously wrong with their reasoning faculties, otherwise, evidences being produced on islam on nairaland are more than enough for a sane person to renounce islam. |
Islam › Re: Is Islam This Good ? by truthman2012(op): 2:05pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
BETATRON: thought we've touched the verse beforehand...well presently watching arsenal vs toteham...brb Lol !!! Exhausted. |
Islam › Re: Contradictions In The Quran by truthman2012(op): 2:04pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
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Islam › Re: Is Islam This Good ? by truthman2012(op): 1:57pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
BETATRON: the verse speaks of the true muslims the true followers of the islam,,yes there are a lot of ignorant muslims who have by virtue of their ignorance abused and interpolated the teachings of islam..well that doesn't mean the teachings of islam aint perfect
Like a wise man once said islam is perfect it is muslims who are imperfect.....it is like a school,which gives an examination and it turns out that some failed the examination...it cannot be said that the school teaches failure,,cause the question will also be asked "how about those who passed the exam, are they not in the same school with those who failed?
Well you've made some mistakes in trying to connect the first verse with the second..
The first verse speaks of an ignorant person...one who knows little or nothing about the religion and maybe confronts the muslim in a dialogue,,in this case we follow the verse of the koran which says "call people to the way of your lord peacefully" that's what the verse explains
The second verse speaks of a disbeliever one who knows the truth about islam, is convince that islam is the right path but due to sentiments or "pre-hatred" chooses to remain on the side of disbelieve...such people are dangerous and will only strive to the last pinch of their blood (like the devil) to see the downfall of islam,,making use aggressive and rebellious means to call (force) people away from islam,,they use unjust and tyrannical means to force people away from the true path,and finally try to block all channels through which people can receive the good news of islam (even the biblical stories are not devoid of such people)
And islam as asked us as believers in the context of the second verse to strife against injustice,oppression and evil,, it is our responsibility as humans in general What happened here. Muslims were crying for peace but allaah said no, they should be thinking of winning: Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, CRYING for PEACE, when ye should be uppermost. The same allaah who said muslims should utter peace is saying they should stop crying for peace. How do you reconcile this? |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 12:21pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
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Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 11:39am On Mar 05, 2016 |
Annunaki: Then you can't be a true muslim, all true muslims believe in killing for the cause of allahh. Thank God you are not as bad as mohamed. Truly, most muslims are better than Muhammad in terms of everything. No muslims could follow most of his bad examples: marrying a baby girl, marrying the wife of his adopted son, robbing commercial caravans etc. Most muslims of today cannot do such things. |
Islam › Re: Is Islam This Good ? by truthman2012(op): 10:55am On Mar 05, 2016 |
SomaliGuy7: Islam is a peaceful religion.
Islam prohibits violence.
Islam does not allow killing any innocent person regardless of his or her beliefs What about the ''HARD against the disbelivers''? |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 10:50am On Mar 05, 2016 |
Rilwayne001: [b] okay, let's start from here:
New International Version Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. He did evil in the eyes of the LORD. New Living Translation Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months and ten days. Jehoiachin did what was evil in the LORD's sight.
English Standard Version Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem. He did what was evil in the sight of the LORD.
New American Standard Bible Jehoiachin was eight years old when he became king, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem, and he did evil in the sight of the LORD.
King James Bible Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.
Holman Christian Standard Bible Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he became king and reigned three months and 10 days in Jerusalem. He did what was evil in the LORD's sight.
International Standard Version Jehoiachin was eight years old when he became king, and he reigned for three months and ten days in Jerusalem, all the while doing what the LORD considered to be evil.
NET Bible Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem. He did evil in the sight of the LORD.
GOD'S WORD® Translation Jehoiakin was eight years old when he began to rule as king. He was king for three months and ten days in Jerusalem. He did what the LORD considered evil.
Jubilee Bible 2000 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem; and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.
http://biblehub.com/2_chronicles/36-9.htm
Which do we believe now 18 or 8 .
Meanwhile this is just a tip and not even the bone of contention, and I want a straight answer before I present the bone of contention... [/b]
I am getting married to your daughter by God's grace
If that is your own definition of pollution, well it remains your cup of tea...
I guess you are blind to see the underlined What are you saying? Do those versions belong to particular denominations? Are you exonerating the quran from such discrepancies? Many of such discrepancies are spoken directly by allaah. Pls note those discrepancies are just history and not the words spoken by the God of the Bible. Who is an idolater in islam? Is anyone who is not a muslim an idolater? Anyway, all this is irrevant to the subject of the thread. |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 10:23am On Mar 05, 2016*. Modified: 10:39am On Mar 05, 2016 |
Rilwayne001: you are obviously confused.. Are Catholics using the same Bible with the protestants? Are he using the same Bible with the prostestants? Are the Mormons using the same Bible with the prostestants? How many Bible exactly do we have?
I was never a Christian btw and will never be.. Even though I am getting married to a Christian  Quote some passages in the different Bible and let's see if they are not saying the same thing. You should be able to substantiate your claim. Did I hear you say you want to get married to a Christian? That girl is not a Christian who wants to marry a muslim. That she bears a Christian's name doesn't make her a true Christian. But why muslim you look for somebody to pollute? There a so many muslim girls looking for husband, you didn't see any of them to marry but an innocent but ignorant girl. Besides, the quran forbids you to marry a non-muslims, why your interest to violate it? Qur'an 2:221 Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise. |
Islam › Is Islam This Good ? by truthman2012(op): 10:02am On Mar 05, 2016 |
Qur'an 25:63 The worshipers of the Most Gracious are those who tread the earth GENTLY, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only UTTER PEACE.
With the genocide being committed all over the world by muslims in the name of islam, how true is the above quranic verse?
Again, how true is the verse when compared with this:
Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are HARD against the disbelievers and MERCIFUL among themselves......
Do people who are HARD against their fellow humans tread the earth gently?
Do muslims utter peace when the ignorant insult islam or Muhammad?
Why is the quran full of such hypocritical statements? |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 8:47am On Mar 05, 2016 |
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Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 8:40am On Mar 05, 2016 |
Where is the Sharia taken from?
I am not surprised, allaah would say something in a verse and reverse it in another verse. He is never consistent, being deceitful.
The greatest success of satan in this world is islam. |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 7:20am On Mar 05, 2016 |
true2god: The muslims hate we kafir so much yet they cannot stop running to blessed kafir lands for a better life. The muslims, in their mosques, with shout: DEATH TO AMERICA, DEATH TO ISRAEL, but yet 90% of them want to relocate to the US (the islamic land of the great satan).
The US sanctioned Iran with official visa refusals and the Iranian started crying and complaining. Donald Trump asked for a temporary halt on muslim migration into the US until muslim terrorist issues are sorted out and the entire muslim world called for his withdrawal from the US presidential race but completely ignored saudi arabia's official of visa denials to non-muslims.
On a more serios note, God has been so good separating the muslim world from we kafir. But the welcoming of the american and European kafir of millions of muslims into their land (with free housing, food, medicare, etc) will surely spell doom for the kafir lands. You dont put cat and rat in the same basket. |
Islam › Re: Contradictions In The Quran by truthman2012(op): 9:25pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
malvisguy212: listen, Jesus did not substitute any law, what Jesus was doing , is solving man problems of sin.
The law is a manifestation of the perfect holiness of God, and was given to us (humanity) to show how utterly unable we are to meet God's standard by our own means, strength or works (Romans 7:7). When the law was introduced, it was never intended to be the instrument by which man would save himself, but it was the instrument through which man was to be saved. In a very real sense, man is saved through the fulfilment (keeping) of the law.
Jesus explained that the moral commandments were not to be followed merely to the letter of the law, but also to the intent of the law. So, it was not enough to abstain from adultery, but God required that one not even look on a woman with lust (Matthew 5:27-28).
Likewise, it is not enough to abstain from murder, but God requires that nobody hate another without cause, with calling another person "a fool" making one guilty enough to suffer the judgment of Hell (Matthew 5:21-22).
So God's laws require not only perfect performance, but also perfect attitude and motive. So you are very very wrong in saying Jesus substitute the law.
Surah 13:39: “Allah makes to pass away and establishes what He pleases, and with Him is the basis of the Book.” (Shakir)
If Allah in the Qur’an manifests himself as the arbitrary god who acts as he pleases without even honoring his own sayings, then he is acting in a way that is totally foreign to the truths taught in the Holy Bible. God does not change and neither does his teachings. Every instance of abrogation is a problem for the doctrine of an unchanging God. the God of the Holy Bible is different. He does not change. As such,he can be totally trusted in fulfilling all his promises:
Malachi 3:6: “I am thy Lord and I do not change.” |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 8:26pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Muslims are mute as usual in the face of truth.
Is islam evil or not, going by its laws that breed hatred for fellow humans?
Would the true God encourage hatred or love?
Something is seriously wrong with islam and its god is a suspect. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Most Influential Man Ever On Earth by truthman2012(m): 5:13pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
true2god: Oh, thank God you are getting it gradually. So you are just aware that your prophet had a psychological disorder, thank God for that. Why should any sane person believe and follow a man with psychological disorder or any disorder? It is only the Devil that can have anyone with any kind of disorder as his prophet. None of Yahweh's prophets had any disorder. |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 5:00pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
Annunaki: Let's see how their al taquiya experts and spin doctors spin this off. I doubt if they will come up with anything because there is is nothing to refute. Islam is as evil as other cults around. |
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 4:58pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
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Islam › Re: Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 4:55pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
true2god: The muslims hate we kafir so much yet they cannot stop running to blessed kafir lands for a better life. The muslims, in their mosques, with shout: DEATH TO AMERICA, DEATH TO ISRAEL, but yet 90% of them want to relocate to the US (the islamic land of the great satan).
The US sanctioned Iran with official visa refusals and the Iranian started crying and complaining. Donald Trump asked for a temporary halt on muslim migration into the US until muslim terrorist issues are sorted out and the entire muslim world called for his withdrawal from the US presidential race but completely ignored saudi arabia's official of visa denials to non-muslims.
On a more serios note, God has been so good separating the muslim world from we kafir. But the welcoming of the american and European kafir of millions of muslims into their land (with free housing, food, medicare, etc) will surely spell doom for the kafir lands. You dont put cat and rat in the same basket. I used to think the white are wise people but is a surprise that the muslims are playing on their intelligence. A nairaland muslim once said the migration of muslims to the west is to conquer their land for islam. I wonder why the west is giving them such latitude. In Britain, muslims are already asking for sharia law and that is due to the freedom they enjoy in the west, which these evil people don't allow in their own land. |
Islam › Why Muslims Cannot Live In Peace With Non-Muslims by truthman2012(op): 1:57pm On Mar 03, 2016*. Modified: 5:22pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
The below is an extract from islamic laws (sharia), making it impossible for the true muslims to live in peace with the people they call ''infidels'' Then, one wonders if islam is a religion of peace as muslims would want us to swallow. Again, which God is allah who would have his faithfuls to be filled with so much hatred. Muslims talk about haters of islam, when in actual fact, they are the ones who hate the infidels. KAFIR Issue 107: * An infidel i.e. a person who does not believe in Allah and His Oneness, is najis. Similarly, Ghulat who believe in any of the holy twelve Imams as God, or that they are incarnations of God, and Khawarij and Nawasib who express enmity towards th e holy Imams, are also najis. And similar is the case of those who deny Prophethood, or any of the necessary laws of Islam, like, Salat and fasting, which are believed by the Muslims as a part of Islam, and which they also know as such. As regards the people of the Book (i.e. the Jews and the Christians) who do not accept the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad bin Abdullah (Peace be upon him and his progeny), they are commonly considered najis, but it is not improbable that they are Clean (tahir/pak). Ho wever, it is better to avoid them. Issue 108: The entire body of a Kafir, including his hair and nails, and all liquid substances of his body, are najis. Issue 109: * If the parents, paternal grandmother and paternal grandfather of a minor child are all kafir, that child is najis, except when he is intelligent enough, and professes Islam. When, even one person from his parents or grandparents is a Muslim, the child is Clean (tahir/pak) (The details will be explained in rule 217). Issue 110: * A person about whom it is not known whether he is a Muslim or not, and if no signs exist to establish him as a Muslim, he will be considered Clean (tahir/pak). But he will not have the privileges of a Muslim, like, he cannot marry a Muslim woman, nor can he be buried in a Muslim cemetery. Issue 111: Any person who abuses any of the twelve holy Imams on account of enmity, is najis. Source: www.al-islam.org/islamic-laws-ayatullah-ali-al-husayni-al-sistani/taharat#kafir |
Islam › Re: When Muslims Were Tired Of Fighting, Allahh Said Peace Was Not An Option by truthman2012(op): 11:08pm On Feb 24, 2016 |
true2god: Yes, followers of the religion of peace, aka islam, are barbarians. Only a barbarian god will prescribe his slaves fighting infidels (quran 8:39, quran 9:29) |