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hockeyoilers:
Wish you the best Malvisguy212. Time for Jummah. Perhaps later this evening I'll
get time to further respond to you.

hockeyoilers:
Jeremiah 4:10

Then I said, "Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived (nasha) this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats."



The word for deceived here is nasha, which means...



1) to beguile, deceive

a) (Niphal) to be beguiled
b) (Hiphil) to beguile, deceive
c) (Qal) utterly (infinitive)

mustymatic:
Sir, I'm sorry to say this but you really are dumb...that's your "lie down" I explained to you...you said fall on means lie down...You said Jesus lie down to pray.. Really dumb!

mustymatic:
Sir, I'm sorry to say this but you really are dumb...that's your "lie down" I explained to you...you said fall on means lie down...You said Jesus lie down to pray.. Really dumb!

plappville:
The prophet Muhammad. Stress be upon him (SBUH) as long as no peace here he will not have peace too. YOU HAVE FINISHED MATTER. A PROPHET WHO SEES VISION EVEN RIDE ON A FLYING HORSE TO VISIT HEAVEN CANNOT SEE THAT THERE WAS POISON IN HIS DELICIOUS MEAL.? THEN HE WAS NEVER A PROPHET. AFTER SEEING ALLAH FACE TO FACE. ONE SMALL YOUN WOMEN STILL FIT KILL AM? hey, think of it..

truthman2012:
Stop deceiving yourself. Even your god, allaah knows the Bible is the word of God. Do you know better than him ?

Qur'an 5:43
How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers.
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah.

Qur'an 5:47
Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that
which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers. The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date.

Quran 5:71
Say: "O People of the Book! (i.e the Jews and the Christians) Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye standfast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord.
How could Allah say Jews and Christians should stand fast by the Law and Gospel if they have been corrupted?

excellencyabia1:
how many have the time to evaluate such issues

truthman2012:
[Quran 33:43] ''He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the believers''

As this is not the beginning of quranic revelations, it shows that up till that time allahh was still praying for Muhammad's salvation. How does God 'PRAY' for man's salvation? Was it not in his power to decide what to do?

Quran 33:56] Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect.

Why should allahh ask the muslims to still pray for Muhammad after he had prayed for him by himself? Was his (allah) own prayer insufficient?

As a result of the above quranic instructions, the concluding part of muslims' routine prayers is: “O god! Have
mercy on Muhammad and on his
descendants, as you had mercy on
Abraham and on his descendants.”

If Muhammad were at peace in
paradise, he would not need the
prayers of anyone?

Omar, one of the early guided
caliphs, said on his deathbed: “. . .
Had I the whole East and West,
gladly would I give up all to be
delivered from this AWFUL TERROR THAT IS HANGING OVER ME” (Cited in
Jens Christensen, The Practical
Approach to Muslims, London:
North Africa Mission, 1977, p.
380).

Abu Bakr went through the
same anguish on his deathbed.
Amr bin al-As wept in his
deathbed worrying about his
eternal destiny.

It is believed when people want to give up the ghost, they have an idea of where they are heading to eternally. I was a witness to a magistrate court judge who had just accepted Jesus who was sick. I went to visit him in the hospital in the company of a senior pastor. We greeted him and stood looking at him on bed. Not quite 15 minutes we got there that the man said in Yoruba ''Jesu o se o'' (thank you Jesus), he took his last breath and gave up the ghost.

Those who lament at death see something horrible and it is an evidence of not making it to heaven. Now, the question is: if those top islamic clerics above stated lamented on their deathbed, what shall be the fate of the lower ones?

excellencyabia1:
that any man might make statement to achieve any purpose they wish

Qpetz:
Why are you bringing out your old topics? SMH.

mustymatic:
Ooh! English now abi? u forgot lying down means sleeping or resting...how can you lie down on your face? you lie down on your back, belly or sides...Negro simple English; when you fall on your face, it means u support your body with your face...English: fall on face not fall on ground
Learn English! you'll be guided by your Bible to Islam if Allah wills
lie down
vb ( intr, adverb )
. to place oneself or be in a prostrate position in
order to rest or sleep
noun
a rest

mustymatic:
It's clearly not you people... those who really believe and follow the teachings

babylolaroy:
This guy has to be daft. "families childless". whatever, so far as common sense isnt general. i cant blame you for not having a share of it. if muslims were taught terrorism. you'd be dead by now

mustymatic:
does this make sense to you? you mean Jesus and other prophets had their chests to the ground there is no where u can prove their chests were on the ground... imagine ur thinking. If it has said "fell on knees" then u will say Christians kneel before the altar or something.... if u cant describe falling on one's face as prostration I don't know what is ..at least Muslims are closer to Jesus than modern Christians. haahaa i don't think Christians fall on their faces to pray.. can you tell us why? why do they sing and dance in church?

aspirer01:
Located far from the urban glitz of Osogbo, capital of
Osun State, the Kelebe community lies some dusty
kilometres away from the National Control Centre of the
Nigeria Power Holding Company of Nigeria.
Within the community, Idi-Agbalumo is one of the
districts where one could experience nature and a good
measure of serenity.
Over the years, residents of the community enjoyed a
peaceful atmosphere until recently when they began
complaining about by the activities of a strange religious
group christened the Oju-Ona Satia Worldwide Ministry,
which had built a worship centre in the community.
Alhaji Moshood Adetoyese, the Vice Central Chairman of
the Kelebe community and chairman of the Idi-Agbalumo
district, declared that the existence of the Oju-Ona Satia
sect in the community portends danger to people in the
area.
Adetoyese said: “We suddenly discovered the existence
of the sect in our community and realised that it is not a
mosque nor a church but a worship centre with a shrine.
People in the community are suspicious over the
activities of the group, who usually worships on
Thursday and Sunday in Christian, Muslim and traditional
ways. We realised that they don’t observe Salat (Muslim
prayer) and they have never called to prayer and you
cannot see anybody there on Friday when Muslims are
observing Juma’at (Muslim Friday noon congregation
prayer) service”.
He explained that because of these contractions, the
community invited the leader of the sect to a meeting,
which he honoured. At the meeting, he told the
community leaders that the society was properly
registered with the Corporate Affairs Commission (CAC)
in Abuja and that the community leaders have no right to
query him or probe his activities.
Adetoyese went on: “We asked the leader of the sect
whether he told the CAC what the group entails but he
told us that we have no business with his activities. He
refused to tell us the mission of the group and the
community resolved that we would not allow them to
stay here with us”.
Justifying the reason for the community’s discomfort
with the sect’s presence among its people, Adetoyese
said residents in the area are afraid that security could
be threatened by members of the group.
He said that the memory of a shrine that was discovered
in the Alekuwodo area of Osogbo is still fresh on peoples’
minds.
He explained: “The operators of that shrine thrived in the
area under the pretext of operating a church. Also, we
had a very terrible experience with some cultists who
used this community as their abode for many years.
They killed many people here before we were able to
chase them away. There were similar instances of
people with clandestine missions using this community
as their hideout and that is why we are always vigilant.
“When we realised that the Oju-Ona Satia sect didn’t
want to leave our community, we ran to the Chief Imam
of Osogbo and the leaders of the Christian Association of
Nigeria (CAN) for their intervention. We also reported the
matter to the traditional ruler of Osogbo and the
monarch took the matter to the security agencies,
including the police, Department of Security Services
(DSS) and the Nigeria Security and Civil Defence Corps
for necessary action.
“The police invited the parties, including the community
leaders and the leader of the sect, to a meeting and we
were made to sign an undertaking that there would be
peace in the community. We are, however, insisting that
we would not allow the sect in our community.”
Muqadam Mukaila Tiamiyu, leader of the sect in Osogbo,
maintained that the sect would remain in the community,
despite the position of the community leaders.
Tiamiyu alleged that the community leaders constantly
harass him in their efforts to chase him and his
members away from the area. He said he has been
cautioning his followers to remain calm while he warns
the community leaders to stay away from his worship
centre.
His words: “The community leaders accused us of
practicing three religions -Christianity, Islam and
traditional religion – and that is our crime. Anyway, I’m
a Muslim cleric and I don’t see anything wrong in
preaching with the Holy Bible. There are both Muslims
and Christians among my followers. I also believe that if
a traditionalist does good deeds, God would be pleased
with him than the Christians and Muslims that do bad
deeds. The point is that a Muslim or Christen may go to
hell, while a traditionalist may go to heaven. That
explains what we do in our society.”
A member of the sect, Mr Said Agboola, frowned that the
community is denying the sect members the opportunity
to worship the way they prefer, saying: “We are just
doing our own here and we don’t disturb anyone in the
community. But we are surprised that they are trying to
chase us out of this community, which is unfair. We are
not criminals and they should leave us alone to worship
the way we like.”
The Baale of Kelebe (traditional ruler), Chief Owolabi
Sulaimon Kolawole, told the Daily Trust on Saturday he
did not know how the sect got a plot of land to build its
worship centre in the community. Chief Kolawole
expressed his support for the community leaders to eject
the group from the area.
The Public Relations Officer of the Osun State Police
Command, Mrs Folashade Odoro, assured that the police
would not allow the matter to degenerate into a clash.

mustymatic:
It’s All In The Bible; Contradictions and errors... not the word of God
Has anyone ever seen God? According to the
Pentateuch, God made an appearance in human
form over a dozen times in front of several
people, such as Abraham, Jacob, and Moses (e.g.
Genesis 12:7, Genesis 32:30, and Exodus 33:11,
respectively). However, Jesus and John claim
that no one has ever seen God face to face (John
6:46 and John 1:18, respectively).
Was Ahaziah eighteen years younger or two
years older than his father (2 Kings 8:26 and 2
Chronicles 21:20-22:2, respectively)? The Bible
says that a man was two years older than his
father, yet Christians still parade it as perfect!
Perhaps these apologists only read the NIV
translation of 2 Chronicles, which deceitfully
alters Ahaziah’s age from forty-two to twenty-
two with only a minor footnote. Even more
astounding than this perplexity is the exceedingly
unfortunate Saul who died via four different
methods: suicide by sword (1 Samuel 31:4-5),
death by an Amalekite (2 Samuel 1:8-10), death
by a Philistine (2 Samuel 21:12), and struck down
by God (1 Chronicles 10:13-14).
How did Judas die after betraying Jesus? The
popular account of Matthew is that he hung
himself (27:5). However, there’s a lesser-known
account of how he died in Acts. “Now [Judas]
purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and
falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst,
and all his bowels gushed out” (1:18). I’ll openly
admit that the common explanation proposed for
this contradiction is one of the funniest things
I’ve ever heard. Evidently, this is what took place:
Judas hung himself from an extremely elevated
tree branch in the field, the branch snapped, he
did a flip to fall head first, and his body exploded
upon impact. If someone were to add “how-it-
could-have-been-scenario” in the dictionary, the
editor would surely have to consider this example
for inclusion.
There’s even a contradiction related to how
the field was purchased. Matthew says Judas
took the money that he received as a reward for
surrendering Jesus and threw it into a temple.
The priests within the temple then used the
money to buy a field for burying strangers
(Matthew 27:5-7). Remember, however, Acts
claims that Judas, not the priests, was the one
responsible for buying the field. The most likely
reason for this blaring contradiction is a lack of
one author’s access to the contrasting records of
the other. Had something lifted this assumed
restriction, we could be reasonably certain that
this contradiction would disappear.
In the Gospel according to Mark, Jesus sends
his disciples on a journey and tells them to take
nothing but their staves and sandals (6:8-9). In
Luke, Jesus says to take nothing, provides a list
of items that the disciples are to leave behind,
and includes staves on the list (9:3). In Matthew,
Jesus reaffirms his desire for the disciples to
leave everything at home, including both shoes
and staves (10:10). Such a seemingly
inconsequential detail is important for one reason
only: demonstrating yet again that the Bible is a
fallible record scribed by humans, not the perfect
word of an eternal god.
Here are a few more impossible puzzles for
you to solve if you ever get bored: “No man hath
ascended up to heaven” (John 3:13) versus
“Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” (2
Kings 2:11); “And one kid of the goats for a sin
offering: to make an atonement for
you” (Numbers 29:5) versus “For it is not
possible that the blood of bulls and of goats
should take away sins” (Hebrews 10:4); “If a man
have long hair, it is a shame unto him” (1
Corinthians 11:14) versus “He shall be holy, and
shall let the locks of the hair on his head
grow” (Numbers 6:5); “The earth abideth for
ever” (Ecclesiastes 1:4) versus “Heaven and earth
shall pass away” (Matthew 24:35); “And the
anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and
he moved David against them to say, Go and
number Israel” (2 Samuel 24:1) versus “And
Satan stood up against Israel and provoked David
to number Israel” (1 Chronicles 21:1); “Walk in
the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine
eyes” (Ecclesiastes 11:9) versus “Seek not after
your own heart and your own eyes” (Numbers
15:39); “That Christ should suffer, and he should
be the first that should rise from the dead” (Acts
26:23) versus Lazarus rising from the dead
months ago (John 11:43) and the previous
resurrection miracles of Elijah centuries in the
past. Did the fig tree cursed by Jesus wither
immediately (Matthew 21:19-20) or overnight
(Mark 11:13-21)? Did Jehoiachin reign three
months and ten days when he was eight (2
Chronicles 36:9) or three months when he was
eighteen (2 Kings 24:?

eyeopener:
As a muslim, your holy spirit is Jubril.

[Quran 16:102] Say, the holy spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to MUSLIMS.

So it is Jubril that is telling that silly lie?

The Christians Holy Ghost cannot do anything in your name because you are not a Christian.

truthman2012:
Did you read the OP ?

It is highly immoral and disgusting for any man talkless of an acclaimed man of God to marry even the ex-wife of his adopted son. Because it is immoral, nobody could do the same afer Muhammad did it.

What you said is just to justify Muhammad's immoral act, you are not answering the questions:

You have failed to mention the names of those who married the wives of their adopted sons as your allaah said. Such should have been stated in the Scriptures before Muhammad's islam but it is not there. allaah lied.

You didn't talk about why allaah cancelled adoption after he had established marriage with adopted sons wives. You also could not mention anybody who followed Muhammad by marrying the wife of adopted son.

You have failed to mention the name of any prophets who received revelation from satan like Muhammad. Such thing should have been in the Scriptures before Muhammad's islam but is not there, meaning allaah lied.

mustymatic:
Unfortunately, this is what the Bible says too; Do Christians pray in the manner of Jesus? And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O
my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from
me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou
[wilt]. (Matthew 26:39) * Do Christians pray like
Jesus? The answer is no. The scripture above
seems to imply that Christians are blind
people who cannot discern the fact with their own
eyes dat Jesus prayed in physical manner. Other
significant examples: And when Abram was ninety
years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram,
and said unto him, I am the
Almighty God; walk before me and be thou
perfect. And
I will make my covenant between me and thee,
and will
multiply thee exceedingly. And Abram fell on his
face: and God talked with him , saying, As for Me,
behold, My covenant is with thee, and thou shalt
be a father of
many nations. (Genesis 17:1-4) Come, let us bow
down in worship , let us kneel before the LORD
our Maker; (Psalms 95:6) And all the angels
stood round about the throne, and
about the elders and the four beasts, and fell
before the throne on their faces, and worshipped
God , Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and
wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and
power, and might, be
unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
(Revelations 7:11-12)
And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth
upon his face before the ark of the Lord until
eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust
upon their heads. And Joshua said, Alas, O Lord
God, wherefore hast Thou at all brought this
people over Jordan, to deliver us into
the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us? Would
to God
we had been content, and dwelt on the other side
of the
Jordan! (Joshua 7:6-7) And Moses and Aaron
went from the presence of the assembly unto the
door of the tabernacle of the
congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and
the glory of the Lord appeared unto them.

stonemasonn:
"foaming at the mouth" is a sign of epilepsy not necessary demon possession and no where is it written that epilepsy is a sin nor a crime.

hockeyoilers:
Your God gets tired and needs to rest. Seriously you've become a joke now.

excellencyabia1:
people pay what ever to get what ever

mamsong9:
Quran has no contradiction, so stop killing yourself with hatred.

hockeyoilers:
I've posted it many times I don't think we need to see it yet again

hockeyoilers:
Just exposing Bible corruption. Why so mad

hockeyoilers:
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

Matthew 26 : 39

hockeyoilers:
There are videos on BBC CNN ect

hockeyoilers:
Mark 26:39 my brother

hockeyoilers:
Speaking of errors....


When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?

One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)

How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?

Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)

In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?

Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:
Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)

How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?

Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)

Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?

Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)

Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?

Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)

How many were the children of Zattu?

Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:
Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)

How many were the children of Azgad?

One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)

How many were the children of Adin?

Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)

How many were the children of Hashum?

Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)

hockeyoilers:
Your brothers in CAR still eating human flesh.

hockeyoilers:
Bible confirms Prophet Jesus peace be upon him, prayed as Muslims pray.

hockeyoilers:
Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

Eighteen (2 Kings 24:
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

How long did he rule over Jerusalem?

Three months (2 Kings 24:
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?

Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:
Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)

When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?

After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?

Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)