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malvisguy212:
if anyone should read this thread and still believe allah to be all knowing, he is under the influence of a spell.

You are very correct.

Bakrabas:
To be seriously serious this op has gone mad again.why cant u just portray ur beautiful name truthman2012

qur'an 10vs94 says: "so if you o (Mohammad saw) r in doubt cncernin dat which we have revealed to you i.e that your name is writtien in thd taurat(torah) n d injeel(gospel),den ask those who r reading d book (torah n injeel)..."

qur'an 2vs62 "verily,those who believe and those who are jews and christians and sabians,whoever believes in ALLAH and the last day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord,on them shall be no fear,no shall they grieve.

daddy truthman2012 can you just plz let's meet for an open debat?

Bakrabas:
To be seriously serious this op has gone mad again.why cant u just portray ur beautiful name truthman2012

qur'an 10vs94 says: "so if you o (Mohammad saw) r in doubt cncernin dat which we have revealed to you i.e that your name is writtien in thd taurat(torah) n d injeel(gospel),den ask those who r reading d book (torah n injeel)..."

qur'an 2vs62 "verily,those who believe and those who are jews and christians and sabians,whoever believes in ALLAH and the last day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord,on them shall be no fear,no shall they grieve.

daddy truthman2012 can you just plz let's meet for an open debat?

Bakrabas:
To be seriously serious this op has gone mad again.why cant u just portray ur beautiful name truthman2012

qur'an 10vs94 says: "so if you o (Mohammad saw) r in doubt cncernin dat which we have revealed to you i.e that your name is writtien in thd taurat(torah) n d injeel(gospel),den ask those who r reading d book (torah n injeel)..."

qur'an 2vs62 "verily,those who believe and those who are jews and christians and sabians,whoever believes in ALLAH and the last day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord,on them shall be no fear,no shall they grieve.

daddy truthman2012 can you just plz let's meet for an open debat?

Open debate? Why not say what you want to say here? It is a liar that will say his witness is in a far place.

Bakrabas:
To be seriously serious this op has gone mad again.why cant u just portray ur beautiful name truthman2012

qur'an 10vs94 says: "so if you o (Mohammad saw) r in doubt cncernin dat which we have revealed to you i.e that your name is writtien in thd taurat(torah) n d injeel(gospel),den ask those who r reading d book (torah n injeel)..."

qur'an 2vs62 "verily,those who believe and those who are jews and christians and sabians,whoever believes in ALLAH and the last day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord,on them shall be no fear,no shall they grieve.

daddy truthman2012 can you just plz let's meet for an open debat?

Open debate? Why not say what you have here. It is a liar that would say his witness is in a far away place.

Why must you lie deceiving yourselves?
Where did you see ''Muhammad's name written in torah and injeel'' in that verse? Bring out the translation that says so.

Look at this again:

And when there cometh unto
them a Scripture from Allah,
CONFIRMING that in their
possession (Quran 2:89).

To confirm means it is true or it is authentic. Why was allahh always eating his words by later saying the Scripture he had once approved is corrupt again?

The truth is that allahh was inconsistent and was always exhibiting the trait of the Devil. allahh's deceit is so clear and I wonder why you islamists couldn't see.

Sparklesebony:
This is serious! Yet the modern believer hardly question what he/she reads or believe.

Muslims are under islamic manipulations, they look away and would not see good reasons that islam is satanic device.

Rilwayne001:
Something like "If you don't accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior, you will end up in hell"

You will support the motion while I will oppose it. Are you ready?



Truth is, you don't understand what you quoted, being the fact that you are one goddamm stiffnecked scoffer. Arguing on this is a waste of time, which I don't have. If notice me these days, I hardly come online. No time... No time.

As you don't have time so, why did you comment, embarking on a journey you cannot finish?

Accepting Jesus as your personal Saviour? That had been in the Christians' Scripture before allahh said they are good to get reward in heaven. What do you want to debate about that? Do you want to prove your god wrong?

Rilwayne001:
Your son sent me PM the other day when I said you are suffering from dementia praecox .. lol

All of you islamists were saying one nonsense of the other but disappeared as soon I appeared. Cowards !

Rilwayne001:
Do you want a debate?

What do you want to debate?

Do you want to lie that allahh didn't say what the quran says he said?

Rilwayne001:
That what you are full of.

Next person !

Rilwayne001:
Nahh, rather at your folly. A fool at forty - they say - is a fool forever. That quote want intentionally meant for people like you. Oh well, you are close to 90 and you remained foolish ever since you clocked forty.

O ga gan ni o

I know you have no defence as usual, hence your nonsensical statements.

Rilwayne001:
You still don't get it, do you? That old stiffnecked behavior of yours Ehn..

Trash !

Rilwayne001:
lol

Laughing at Muhammad falling first victim of islam?

Rilwayne001:
Whatever, old man .. The verse up there is clear enough for those that are not blind to see.

No time for argument..

allahh is manipulative saying yes and no on the same subject. that is the character of the Devil. Pity you.

There would not have been anything called islam today if Muhammad was bold enough to ask allahh some reasonable questions.

ALLAH SAID MUHAMMAD SHOULD CONFIRM QURANIC REVELATIONS FROM JEWS AND CHRISTIANS:

Allahh said Muhammad should ask the Jews and Christians if he was in doubt about what were being revealed to him:

And if thou
art in doubt concerning that
which We reveal unto thee,
then question those who read
the Scripture (that was) before
thee. Verily the Truth
from thy
Lord hath come unto thee. So
be not thou of the waverers
(Quran 10:94). With this quranic statement, allahh was in agreement with Jews and Christians.

So by the time allahh later said the Scripture of the same Jews and Christians were corrupt, Muhammad should have asked ''but you once referred me to those people to confirm your revelations, why are you saying their Scriptures is now corrupt? Didn't you know that before lord? When did they become your enemies?

ALLAH AFFIRMED JEWS AND CHRISTIANS WERE GOING TO HEAVEN WITH REWARD:

Lo! Those who believe (in that
which is revealed unto thee
Muhammad) and those who are
Jews and Christians and
Sabaens – whosoever believeth
in Allah and the Last Day and
doeth right – surely their
reward is with their Lord and
there shall no fear come upon
them neither shall they grieve.
Qur’an 2:62

I am sure allahh must have known that the Christians believe Jesus as Son of God or even God before he said they will have reward in heaven. But by the time allahh later said the Christians ascribe partner to him and that they are going to hell, Muhammad should have asked ''but you knew this before, why are you changing your mind now?''

If Muhammad was educated and bold enough and asked appropriate questions, he should have abandoned allahh's project of islam because it is a mere deception.

allahh said he is a DECEIVER and that actually reflects in the OP and in the quran:

But they (the Jews) were
deceptive, and Allah was
deceptive, for Allah is the
best of DECEIVERS
( Wamakaroo wamakara
Allahu waAllahu khayru
al-makireena )! Quran 3:54; 8:30

plappville:
That was why he didn't want anything to be written about him...

(A) “Do not write anything from me EXCEPT QURAN. Anyone who wrote anything other than the Quran shall erase it.”

(B) Again, in the book “Taq-yeed Al-Ilm”, Abu Saeed Al-Khudry said, ” I asked the Messenger of God a permission to write his hadiths, but he refused to give me a permission.”

He had many skeletons in his cupboard.

Rilwayne001:
lol.. I guess you missed the first part of my post. You need to put on your glasses old man

allahh said you can retaliate or let go. he gave you an option of retaliation. you are lying to explain it to mean otherwise.

Rilwayne001:
It's not the LAW OF MOSES it's the law of Jesus a.k.a Yahweh (according to trinitarians)- he gave it To Moses. What was he thinking before?

Here's that the Quran say;

Al-Mumenoon, Verse 96:
ادْفَعْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ السَّيِّئَةَ نَحْنُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يَصِفُونَ

[But whatever they may say or do,] repel the evil [which they commit] with something that is bet­ter: We are fully aware of what they attribute [to Us].

That is just the quran contradicting itself: retaliate, again don't retaliate.

For every verse in the quran there is the reverse, allahh was never consistent.

yazach:
The Op and his likes must receive brain in this new year else

Someone with just 1 wife is claiming to be more active sexually than a man with 4 wives

I say it again, receive brain truthman2012

Trash !

You couldn't even comprehend the OP.

analice107:
PASTOR Truthman. Pls enlighten me again. Didn't Allah say, he was the one who wrote the Bible, he gave the old Testament to his prophets of old, and the new to Jesus? (even when Jesus never wrote one chapter) yet allahh claimed he gave the Injil to Jesus.
The Muslims claim all the Biblical prophets to be muslims. Are the Muslims in this thread affirming that allahh did not write the Bible and the writers of the Bible not muslims, or that allahh wrote all these "nonsense" they are mocking.
These people are mocking allahh.
Hey Mr Muslim, do know how ridiculous you sound? In another news, you'll fight rigorously to fix Muhammed in that same Bible you are casting aspersions on now.

To me, allahh is a liar, deceiver and a confusionist. He said he gave Moses Torah. Did he write the Torah and sent it to Moses? We know God gave Moses the ten commandments, but not the whole of the OT.

He also said he gave Jesus the Injeel, did he write it and sent to Him? Jesus didn't receive any book.

No wonder nobody could find both the Torah and Injeel today but the Bible. They do not exist, it is a lie.

DeathStroke007:
nah nah nah... don't start another issue ..


explain those verse.. #lobatan

I don't have the time to explain the lenghty Bible passages which you quoted. Go study what happened before the verses and why the statements were made.

How many times are you going to post this same thread? Go and rest your brain if you have nothing new.

One thing is certain: anyone who does anything without the backing of Jesus as written in the Bible is on his own.

AlmuFty01:
Fine....... So far yyou read and comprehend the thread, contribute like a learner my friend.

How do you reason?

How am I to be a learner in my own thread?

I am not a contributor to this thread, am the owner.

How old are you? You must be a small boy.

DeathStroke007:
parisbookaddict malvisguy




come and explain this

There is no much to explain, your quran has done much of the explanations,

Firstly, you must be taught that the Bible is a spiritual Book that carnal minded muslims on NL cannot comprehend so easily. It is full of figurative expressions and proverbs. You need to have the Spirit of the Bible and be trained in the interpretations.

The Bible existed in the time of Muhammad. Khadija, Muhammad's first wife went to her uncle who was a Christian for an advice on Muhammad's terrible encounter with Jubril. Muhammad was afraid and was planning to commit suicide after meeting with islamic Gabriel. Many people in the Bible met with the true angel Gabriel and the first thing he would tell them is "fear not" But when Muhammad met with the islamic Gabriel, he pressed him thrice to death point each time. What I am actually saying is that there were Christians at Muhammad time using the same Bible you ignorant islamists on NL are trying to condemn. Besides, the quran talks about Christians in some of its pages showing the Bible existed before islamic revelations.

allahh in his own statement said the quran was sent to confirm and not to correct the Bible you are criticizing:

And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession (Quran 2:89). First, this verse makes it clear that the Scripture in Jews' and Christians' possession at Muhammad's time and even now is the TRUTH as the quran came to confirm and not to correct it. To confirm means to say it is true or authentic. Then, what audacity do you have to query what your god said is correct?

If there are other quranic verses against that, I am not surprised, inconsistency is the character of islamic allahh.

yetunsbay:
jst like u being an error

Why are you here?

You haven't proved anything.

AlmuFty01:
I think you can listen to yourself? What do you know about the whole issue Mr. Dement

Look at how intelligent you are. You are asking me what do I know in the thread I opened. Smh !

true2god:
While the hindu man articulate his argument, the muslim man sharpen his sword.....Sir Winston Churchill.

Succinct !

OLAJADON:
u guys can lie..how can u just jump to conclusion that it was mohammed he was referring to in that verse...doing miracles is left to Allah's will not mohammed power

Can't you read a simple English statement and understand?

adubih:
Truthman or wh
at is that your foolish name, i'm sure you are possessed by jin and u need to GET your brain tested. BIG IDIOT!

Because I am telling you the TRUTH?

What have I said in my own words without supporting them with authentic islamic sources?

orisa37:
Mohammed did and he got Islam. And that was a great miracle.

Going by your reasoning,Budaism is also a miracle because Budah did and got Budaism. So you are saying every religion is a miracle because the founders did and got their religion established.

Empiree:
Why are you wasting your time which these products rape by bandits

We know them very well. They are deaf, dumb and blind. There are bunch of them.

Another one called malvisguy will be here soon with his epistles about how holy ghost teaches silly things in his dream

Like someone rightly said, dont stoop so low to their level.

I really cant stop laughing reading the comments.

Characteristic of muslims, they lack words of conviction but sword of confusion, hence the quran abused the Jews and Christians and killed as many as they could. The muslims on NL who have no opportunity to kill like Muhammad resorted to only abuses. Smh !!!

VomeSchakleton:
And those who kept their duty to their Lord will be led to Paradise in groups, till, when they reach it, and its gates will be opened and its keepers will say: Salamun 'Alaikum (peace be upon you)! You have done well, so enter here to abide therein." And they will say: "All the praises and thanks be to Allah Who has fulfilled His Promise to us and has made us inherit (this) land. We can dwell in Paradise where we will; how excellent a reward for the (pious good) workers!" Quran 39: 73-74




"As to those who reject Faith: if they had everything on earth, and twice repeated, to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Judgment, it would never be accepted of them. Theirs would be a grievous penalty. Their wish will be to get out of the Fire, but never will they get out. Their penalty will be one that endures" (5:36-37).

allahh is an arabian idol.he is not the owner of the true heaven. allahh's heaven that is full of virgin for sexual immorality is a FICTION, it does not exist. Muhammad must have known that by now.

My friend, your islamic prayer does not work. You said ''Alham'dulillah'' to maintain silence, yet you are speaking. That was how Jubril's prayer failed over Muhammad by praying and and saying allahh would heal him but he died. Islamic or quranic prayers do not work. Again quran was recited on Muhammad by Aisha, yet he died.

VomeSchakleton:
Is that what you tell yourself when you go to bed? Is that what you think justifies your joke of a religion? Christians love? Looool! This world has always been shiit, bad things happen, it's just the way the world is designed. Long before Christianity and long before islam. Your christians have killed more people than these so called muslims ever will, I didn't pull it out of the air, it's a fact! Look around the world! You can agree satanic beings are at the helm of affairs, in such instances who do you think will be villianised? It's no biggie, Muslims accept this, the prophet (pbuh) professed this. Life, death. Is death not better? People are going crazy in pursuit of temporary wealth when true wealth lies in salvation and to me nothing Truely offers salvation than a pure death. But ofcourse this is what your pastors tell you. Muslims breed hatred that's why they die. So sometimes it even pleases you because you think it justifies why one could possible read that book of yours and conclude it isn't just one big joke! Maybe you believe African Americans are bad and kill each other because they breed hatred! Where do you think the root of their problem lies? Do you think God made them the way they are like the media would want you to believe? Sometimes it's hard to blame these arabs even though I condemn their actions. Their lands are pillaged and their women's raped. Drone strikes don't discriminate, young or old, guilty or innocent. We why won't the innocent turn guilty after you've orphaned him, hurt him, decapitated him. Most of them have nothing to lose.

I don't want your replies, I'm not new here, I'm very familiar with truthman2012, Malvisguy212 Parisbookaddict true2god and all these hypocrites, I know they do not search for truth but their aim is to insult, so I've given up on these souls, I literally stopped checking this section because sometimes seeing the sort of madness these people spew makes me weep, if only they knew. So no dear stranger, I do not want replies. I may be a little ashamed of my rants earlier, not that they don't deserve it bit this isn't how a Muslim is supposed to act. At a point I decided engaging in these discussions where fruitless, but his question was pretty straightforward and I thought a simple answer would put this to rest, I forgot the sort of num skulls I was dealing with. You can read my comments, my intentions were nothing but pure in the beginning.

So don't you come here trying to villianise me, I have just about had enough of you christians and your double standards and selective morality. In case you're wondering this isn't a new topic, this is a topic that has been created and debunked by muslims before when we used to give a fvck, but they brought it up again, because they're sleek self loathing destructive liars who instead of finding solace in their religion relish stirring up hatred and pointing fingers at others.


I realise now my earlier decision to ignore these topics was the best one. But just a word to the Op and his gang of confused nincompoops, this is useless. You're not hurting anyone's faith but yours, as a matter of fact, bar the insults all this does is strengthen my faith in the one true Religion. Islam has been here long before you were born and it will remain, strong and growing long after you are gone which is a lot more than I can say about your religion, these are facts.


I have never been more proud to call myself a Muslim than I am right now, at this moment and I hope this feeling grows tomorrow. We muslims refuse to abandon our faith. We muslims refuse conformity if it means living with the rules of men over that of our creator, we refuse to accept that which our creator forbade. We refuse to embrace political correctness if it means embracing the laws of satan and his order.


My silence continues. Alhamdulillah.

Did I hear you say 'SILENCE'?


I said it. I told vook he should leave me and you, that you would soon be short of words. It has happened.

The truth is, there is a limit anyone can continue to defend FALSEHOOD. Your bosses in islam have bowed and ran away on NL in the same name of 'SILENCE' and IGNORING.

We will continue to let you know the TRUTH, it is left to you to accept or reject. May you be delivered from islamic deception in Jesus name.

yetunsbay:
i think have communicated

You have communicated error !

VomeSchakleton:
016:125
:
Call to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and goodly exhortation, and argue with them in the best manner. Surely thy Lord knows best him who strays from His path, and He knows best those who go aright.

That is the double face of islam. Peace today, war tomorrow.

Was Muhammad then disobeying allahh by resorting to VIOLENCE?

Bukhari (53:392) - "While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."

Muhammad said: 'Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory', and Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: 'Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?' Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: 'Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger' (Sahih Muslim 31:5917

They had no message to CONVINCE the people but FORCE islam on them. See a religion of peace .......