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DeathStroke007:
why can't you understand simple explanation? Haven't you ever ask for God guidance? can you tell me why you are asking for guidance? can you tell me when you will know your prayers are answered?



to answer your question.. asking for Allah guidance on relationships simply means you praying to Allah for successful relationship. as long as the relationship is successful, that means Allah is guiding you and also means HE has answer your prayers.

Hear from Allah is meant for Prophets only. and that Hear means revelation.. Quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad through revelation. Moses do hear God voice.. that's also revelation... ordinary human being can't hear God voice. .. if you still don't understand... OYO lo wa

LadunaI:
Infact I dont know how exactly I should reply you, because you seems to be perambulating on the same point.However, the above post is sufficient for you and your like minds.

Know this for certain the TRUE PERFECTION BELONG TO ALLAH ALONE. and of course HE protected HIS prophets and messengers from such a silly sins, mistakes and absent mindedness of HIS presence that a peculiar to humankind.

Have you ever ponder why Jew REJECTED Jesus then and even NOW? is because of their religious bigot that prevented them from seen the ILLUMINATION AND LIGHT brought by Jesus (as).

If you don't know is the same DISEASE in the heart of Jews that make them rejected Jesus (as) that what is been exemplified by YOU and your cohort to reject Prophet Muhammed (saw). As your hatred boils so also the Jews in their thinking feel they are doing GOD's WILL regarding Jesus(as).

Alas how people failed to LEARN FROM HISTORY!!

Peace be upon those who follow guidance.

truthman2012:
Yes, islam has come to the end of its growth. All allahh's strategies have been rendered ineffective by today's realities.

ISLAM GROWTH STRATEGIES:

STRATEGY 1 (GROWTH BY COMPULSION).

Muhammad came forcing people to accept islam through terrorism. He went to places waging wars against the people, beheading as many as refused to accept islam, yet islamists say islam is a religion of peace. What an irony. 99% of today's muslims are a product of coersion experienced by their forefathers.

The reason muslims are in majority in Northern Nigeria is a result of islamic war waged against the people by Utmar Dan Fodio. People accepted islam rather than dying. Now, it is these same muslims who are a product of islamic war that are saying islam is a religion of peace. What a lie from the pit of hell.

That growth system is no more working in today's world. Governments the world over are battle ready to combat terrorism. This has stalled islam's growth by compulsion, which used to be the method that brought the highest growth.

STRATEGY 2 (MULTIPLE MARRIAGE AND PRODUCTION OF NUMEROUS CHILDREN).

It was a deliberate strategy for islamic growth that allahh permitted muslims to marry as many as four wives and placed no limit to their children. He even permitted exchange of old wives for new ones, so that the new ones will take over children production from the old ones.

But thanks to the current day's economic realities that are not favourable to growth by birth strategy.

With those strategies rendered ineffective by the current realities plus the massive evangelization by the Christians with signs and wonders, islam has come to the end of its growth. When something is no more growing it will begin to die.

VomeSchakleton:
Hey I'm just saying, if he ate bread and drank wine, it's gotta come out some how right?

VomeSchakleton:
Jesus was a toilet wrecking hippie


Your god raped Mary and blamed it on a ghost!


Technically your Jesus was a basta.rd.

truthman2012:
So much accusations have been levelled against Apostle Paul of the Bible by muslims. But what surprises me is the fact that the writings of Paul was around at the time of Muhammad, yet allahh didn't accuse or say anything about him. Do muslims know better than allahh? Or didn't allahh notice him as a supposed all-knowing?

Today's muslims accuse Paul of lying contrary to allahh's silence. Paul is so important in Christianity that discrediting his writings is tantamount to discrediting Christianity as a whole.

Muslims don't believe the Bible otherwise they would not be muslims, those who believe it among them are now Christians. Since they don't believe Paul's writings and other writers in the Bible, what is their source of information on Paul? Is it the Bible they don't believe in?

Paul was a martyr, he was killed for his faith, would anybody want to die on telling lies? Who has ever done so?

For muslims to effectively accuse Paul of anything, they must use sources they believe as credible and not tender evidences from the book or document they don't trust.

Also, evidences from atheists are biased as haters of God and the Gospel, therefore not credible.

Annunaki:
I suspect that you are that islamist psychopath that keeps changing his NL moniker owing to several bans.

VomeSchakleton:
the recycling recycler.

DeathStroke007:
laughing in Paul style.. so ignorant.... so i should just look and ignore them? do you know how many people reading this thread? do you know silence from we Muslims means they are right? some fools are insulting Prophet Muhammad and Allah and i should stand still? What would you think Sahbahs of Prophet Muhammad will do if they are alive and see this thread... ??

DeathStroke007:
your case need special attention. you even asking a very dumb question ... you will know your answer is answered when you see that the prayers you said to Allah comes to pass. Hear from angel jubril is only meant for Prophet of Allah. And that " hear" means revelation.. not ordinary hear.. understand?




because we pray to Allah means Quran and hadith are not sufficient?? why not you so dumb? huh? can't you read what you wrote before posting?


is it not Quran and Hadith that teach us how to pray to Allah?



you saying your Allah proves your level of ignorance. Eashoa Maskeena called God Allaha .. Go read Aramaic Bible. there are lots of things you don't know.. chai..

DeathStroke007:
am glad you are learning, from now henceforth, always direct your questions about Islam to me....

to your questions.. you are asking why we pray for guidance, so we should be praying for misguidance abi we shouldn't pray at all... this your question about guidance is unclear. what are you trying to bring out as point by asking the question about praying for guidance.



why are you asking rhetorical question? how do you know Creator answer your prayers as you can't heat from creator?




yeah.. those alfa using jinns, divination and others are practicing what is not in islam because Prophet Muhammad or any other Prophet never practiced such practice..

satisfied?

manmacho:
But if your prophet is so perfect like you claimed, why do you continue pray for allah peace upon him

well one thing is clear there is no peace for the wicked according the the scripture meaning if you are righteous you will have peace and no body will need to ask for peace on your behalf

Revelation15:
If Mohammad was a sinner, then why is my muslim friend keep telling me that all God's Prophets are sinless? Is he contradicting their Quran or just lack of understanding of their book?

DeathStroke007:
laughing in Chinese... See how this guy is blaspheming our Creator.. And it's entirely your fault.. have you ever try to find out the language that the person called Jesus spoke when he was alive? Do you even know his real name? Do you even know what he called God?

chai.. I won't say you blaspheming because you are ignorant... but it's because you refuse to see the truth.. and that's your problem....






back to the topic... there's nothing left for Allah to say since HIS last Prophet has left the World. HE explained everything about life, grave and hereafter to HIS prophets.. especially HIS last Prophet.. like I told you before, NEVER TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW. DO RESEARCH BEFORE ANYTHING.. SHEY YOU HEAR.. EHN




YOU saying Allah is silent is a dumb talk.. Allah is our Creator and listens to evey being prayers and cries every single day...

jayriginal:
God used to appear to people. Adam and Eve, Moses, Gideon, to name a few. Those were good times.

God no longer appears to people these days, he prefers to appear on toast, bathroom walls and other blurry and unreliable media. The only other thing that goes for his presence is claims by people of uncertain mental capacity that they received a revelation from God.

These are personal claims that are not objectively verifiable and can only be believed by those desperate enough to clutch at the slightest evidence.

Again I'll ask OP, why the double standards?

ari3l:
Many of them. I have a friend her name is Aisha, she is a hausa girl. We both went to church, Redeemed to be very precise. We even coming back from church as I type

olasesi:
MUHAMMAD PERFORMED MIRACLES

Miracles of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad are a number of supernatural occurrences, which according to Islamic tradition were made by Muhammad during his lifetime. These miracles are shown either in the Qur'an or, in the vast majority of cases, in the hadith (traditions of Muhammad). Muhammad's miracles encompass a broad range, such as the multiplication of food, manifestation of water, hidden knowledge, prophesies, healing, punishment, and power over nature.[1]

According to historian Denis Gril, the Qur'an does not overtly describe Muhammad performing miracles, and the supreme miracle of Muhammad is finally identified with the Qur'an itself.[2]

However, several miracles are reported in the Quran and miracles "appear early and often in the hadith"[3]

and the hadiths are indispensable in elucidating Muhammad's miracles.
[4]

LIST OF MIRACLES

Quran - considered by Muslims to be Muhammad's greatest miracle[5][6][7]

and a miracle for all times, unlike the miracles of other prophets, which were confined to being witnessed in their own lifetimes.[8]

Splitting of the moon

Isra and Mi'raj (Night Journey)

On several occasions he provided food and water supernaturally.[12]

He comforted a palm tree that was crying and upset after he stopped leaning on it during his sermons.[12]

He caused two trees to move at his command.[12]

Prophecies made by him.

His migration from Mecca to Medina.[13]

He quenched the thirst of thousands of
his soldiers during the Battle of Tabouk and enabled them to use water for ablution after causing water to pour forth.[14]

He caused a well to swell with water during the event of the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah, enabling his followers with him to drink and use the water for ablution.[14]

He threw a handful of dust at some of the enemy during the Battle of Badr, causing them to be blinded. This miracle is mentioned in the Quran, Sura Al-Anfal, Verse 17 (8:17).[14]

When the Jews of Medina claimed that the hereafter belonged to them alone, a Quranic verse was revealed (2:94) saying "Then wish for death. if you are speaking the truth." Muhammad said they would not be able to wish for death and his statement was proven correct, despite the Jews eagerness to disprove the reality of his Prophethood. This challenge was repeated in another Quranic verse (62:6-7) and again was never met by the Jews.[14][15]

He told his companion, Uthman, that a calamity would befall him, which would be followed with his entering paradise; this eventuated during Uthman's Caliphate.[14]

He told his companion, Ammar ibn Yasir, that the unjust party would kill him; this eventuated during the First Fitna.[14]

He said that God would make peace between two large Muslim groups through his grandson Hasan ibn Ali; this eventuated with the Hasan–Muawiya treaty.[14]

He said that a man who was apparently fighting for the Muslim cause would actually be of the people of Hell; this was proven when the man committed suicide in order to remove his suffering following a wound in battle.[14]

He said that he would kill one of the enemies of the Muslims, Ubay ibn Khalaf, which he achieved at the Battle of Uhud.[16]

Before the Battle of Badr, he showed exactly where each of the enemy chiefs would be killed; they all died in the exact locations stated.[16]

He said that a part of his nation would raid by sea; this eventuated with the establishment of Muslim naval power under the Caliphate.[16]

He said that his daughter Fatimah would be the first of his family to die after him; which eventuated.[16]

He told his wives that the most charitable one among them would be the first to die after him; this eventuated with the death of Zaynab bint Jahsh.[16]

He caused Abdullah ibn Masud to convert to Islam after he made a barren ewe, which produced no milk, to produce milk.[16]

He spit into Ali's sick eye, during the Battle of Khaybar, and it became healthy.[1]

His companions would hear the food before him praising God.[1]

He caused it to rain during a drought in Medina.[17]

REFERENCES
1^ a b c Kenneth L. Woodward (10 Jul 2001). The Book of Miracles: The Meaning of the Miracle Stories in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam (reprint ed.). Simon & Schuster. p. 189. ISBN 9780743200295.

2^ Denis Gril, Miracles, Encyclopedia of the Qur'an

3^ F. E. Peters (13 Oct 2010). Jesus and Muhammad: Parallel Tracks, Parallel Lives. Oxford University Press. p. 205. ISBN 9780199780044.

4^ Kenneth L. Woodward (10 Jul 2001). The Book of Miracles: The Meaning of the Miracle Stories in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam (reprint ed.). Simon & Schuster. p. 183. ISBN 9780743200295.

5^ Ibrāhīm, Zaynab; Aydelott, Sabiha T.; Kassabgy, Nagwa, eds. (1 Jan 2000). Diversity in Language: Contrastive Studies in Arabic and English Theoretical and Applied Linguistics (illustrated ed.). American Univ in Cairo Press. p. 31. ISBN 9789774245787.

6^ David Whitten Smith; Elizabeth Geraldine Burr (21 Aug 2014). Understanding World Religions: A Road Map for Justice and Peace (2 ed.). Rowman & Littlefield. p. 142. ISBN 9781442226449.

7^ Brown, Brian Arthur, ed. (1 Jan 2014). Three Testaments: Torah, Gospel, and Quran (illustrated, reprint ed.). Rowman & Littlefield. p. 403. ISBN 9781442214934.

8^ Edward Sell (5 Nov 2013). The Faith of Islam. Routledge. p. 218. ISBN 9781136391699.

12^ a b c Leaman, Oliver, ed. (2006). The Qur'an: An Encyclopedia (illustrated, reprint, annotated ed.). Taylor & Francis. p. 423. ISBN 9780415326391.

13^ F. E. Peters (13 Oct 2010). Jesus and Muhammad: Parallel Tracks, Parallel Lives. Oxford University Press. p. 153. ISBN 9780199781379.

14^ a b c d e f g h Kenneth L. Woodward (10 Jul 2001). The Book of Miracles: The Meaning of the Miracle Stories in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam (reprint ed.). Simon & Schuster. p. 186. ISBN 9780743200295.

15^ Sarah Stroumsa (1 Jan 1999). Freethinkers of Medieval
Islam: Ibn Al-Rawāndī, Abū Bakr Al-Rāzī and Their Impact on Islamic Thought. BRILL. pp. 51–2, 57. ISBN 9789004113749.

16^ a b c d e f Kenneth L. Woodward (10 Jul 2001). The Book of Miracles: The Meaning of the Miracle Stories in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam (reprint ed.). Simon & Schuster. p. 188. ISBN 9780743200295.

17^ Kenneth L. Woodward (10 Jul 2001). The Book of Miracles: The Meaning of the Miracle Stories in Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam (reprint ed.). Simon & Schuster. pp. 197–8. ISBN 9780743200295.

LadunaI:
Your state is indeed pathetic, how on earth would you be questioning me on the same issue just explained to you in a plain simple language. Do you ever think before you post at all? well, that's result of dogmatic belief and indoctrination.

I repeat again Proohet Muhammed is INFALLIBLE and cannot commit sin even in sleep. Asking of forgiveness which you failed to appreciate is by saying God forbid that Jesus Christ was a "sinner " because he allowed the thought of satan to assailed him for brief moment which he effectively fought through Bible qoutations. This is similar issue that happened to Prophet Muhammed (saw), that Allah is referring to ask for forgiveness, when asked if you don't know.

Your condemnation of the person of Pope still further show how far away from truth you are, and in that abyss of darkness failed to understand anything of spiritual import.

Peace.

LadunaI:
Thank God you spill the beans now. If sin is breaking the God's law as you said which I totally agreed with, then tell me a single verse or hadith that mentioned any God's law ever flouted by the holy prophet (saw). He's per excellence an INFALLIBLE prophet that can't even fall to error even when he's sleeping.

Now, coming to your oft quoted verses of asking for forgiveness by the holy prophet (saw), is purely for un imaginable spiritual perfection. I don't know if you have read it in the book of hadith where he inkling mentioned his supposedly sin that he seek forgiveness from Allah when is thought is been interupted or cycled by satan.

He considered that a sin in his humble spirit repent for that. This is similar if you don't know, what that means, what happen to Jesus Christ (as) after 40 days of fasting when satan try tempt him, a few minute cut of divine remembrance. The holy prophet is in perpetual commune with God who considered an interupt of thinhs like this a sin.

Even at that, Allah has promised him such seemly 'sin' that has happened or that will happen in future, HE has forgiving him yet he cease not to be humbled before His lord.

ALLAH says in the holy Quran that he (saw) has best of highest moral standard. So go do your research properly. We were told in the holy Quran that even believers after entering paradise, we still be begging for forgiveness and perfection of their light, but like you of little spiritual knowledge you will interpret from mundane angle whereas is for unceasing spiritual perfection.


Peace.

parisbookaddict:
Before we continue the discussion I want to let u know that I regularly criticize some catholic doctrine. I have my bible as my go to authority and I try to get the churches standpoint on key social issues, theology etc

I do know the church has a very high regard for Mary which protestants object to. Early Christians also had a very high regard for Mary. Many Christians don't know this, even some scriptures (not included in the bible) says she was born without original sin.

I don't know much about Our lady of Fatma. What does it have to do with the conversation.

When u say pray islamically, what exactly do u mean.

Islamic pray involves several up and down movements including grasping the ears and thighs and reciting pagan verses.

I haven't seen the pope do that.

By the way how is Christian pray, is it by putting ur hands together, or raised up apart or dancing in joy, or quite in meditation.. Because catholics do all that depending on circumstance.
which one did u see the pope do ?

parisbookaddict:
U are approaching this wrongly I think.

Ladunal Should know that Mohammed could not perform miracLes not because he was a sinner, remember that no man is without sin , even Moses killed a man, David killed men etc (and they are considered prophets),

mohammed could not perform any miracles because he was a pagan moon god worshipping paedophile FRAUD.

Note that the Pope has never called Jesus drunk, we need to be careful the allegations we make, he has never prayed islamically but he has visited mosques and prayed as part of his peace whatever. I strongly disagree with being too friendly with muslims in a religious sense (since we do not worship the same GoD) but what do I know.

As a born catholic I will tell you that the catholic churchs position on Islam is that they are a pagan cult with some warped judeo-christain teachings and should be brought to the Christian faith through love and compassion.

leksbore:
liarerman here you go quoting lies? tell me who Mohammed killed that opposed Islamic laws? if not because they fought him ams and he fought back . even the land God gave to the children of isreal was it not through war that they got the inheritance he promised them?

Liarerman2012 go and get English Quran and try and read and understand it.

leksbore:
Are they not Christians? Hail Mary mother of god?

LadunaI:
I still repeat define SIN or SINNER from your scriptural understanding. Why dodging the simple question for God sake.

I don't have time for frivolous discussion/posts, I want constructive argument based on solid foundation. I wonder how you will know somebody is a sinner or not when you don't know the dichotomy between Sin and Holiness.
Just quoting verses out of context.

Peace be upon you.

leksbore:
truthman2012 d liarer here u go again,,,,y did Jesus died for your sin? you r a sinner, you are a liarer ,from the beginning you are a liarer and you are the father of all lies.

jayriginal:
As it was written, Jesus said when you pray, pray like this. It wasn't written that they should pray like that initially. That is why Catholics and Anglicans still use the Lord's prayer.

It's also funny that you refer to other sources to explain something Jesus supposedly spoke clearly about.

LadunaI:
It is evident from your reply and perhaps from my background check of your previous posts about your character assassination of holy prophet (saw) and Islam, and a rush in doing that.

That being said, am more than ready to join issue with you on the condition that those reading it will learn and we as well. Don't thrash alot of things out at the same time, let take it one by one.

Firtly, before I started proving the saintly and sinless nature of holy prophet (saw) and your lack of understanding of beauty of verses of holy Quran you've quoted. kindly tell me what you understand by the term sin or somebody been a sinner.

Secondly, its amused me when you failed to appreciate the very first purity and high moral status of holy propeht of been truthful ans SINLESS even when the messages or some verses seemly "belittle" him to some gullible minds like you, yet desist from tampering with Divine messages sent down through him, but clearly stated it as it was revealed to him. Though, am not surprise at that, for it is stated in Bible that, "that Prophet all that shall he hear that shall he speak."

This is one of his truthfulness and part of sinless nature even unconsciously showed by you but failed to realized it.

Lastly, I will teach you and as well show you the wisdom behind Divine commandments of asking for forgiveness in those verses. So, please define SIN OR SINNER according to your best understanding of the Bible or any Scripture for that matter, then I can begin from there, so that we can have clear focus and robust discussion from the on set.

Peace be upon you.

jayriginal:
In the Lord's prayer taught by your Jesus, isn't there a place that calls for forgiveness of sins even as you commit sins against others?

Why the double standards?

Annunaki:
Mohamed could not do any miracles because he was a very fake prophet and not just because he was a chronic sinner.

LadunaI:
May God forgive you and guide you out of error and misguidance.

To start with Jesus (as) said in the bible that you should refrain from judging anyone, but I don't know the Scriptural backup for your unholy presumption about the person of holy Prophet (saw).

You should have gladly ask or investigate if there is any miracle whatsoever performed by holy prophet (saw), but for a clarity, Muslims simply don't hype such miracle because the matter of faith takes more than cursory miracles, as even echoed by Jesus (as) that even the false prophets and Christ will show many Miracles and wonders that can even deceive the elect.

However, the place of miracle cannot be thrown out also in recognizing the TRUE GOD, hence, is always in divine wisdom to send his prophet with a miracle that best suited their time. I can give you many such miracles performed by holy prophet (saw), but the GREATEST of them all is HOLY QURAN.

To be continue. ..