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BETATRON:
hehehe.He tire me oh...I wonder How TRYING to prove another persons religion wrong makes theirs right

mamsong9:
Even son of your fellow Christians still have doubt in their mind concerning Sonship of Jesus. Nothing qualify him as the son of God.
God has no Son, would you start using your brain for the first time?

mamsong9:
Don't listen to them, even when they quote bible they skip some verse, talk less of Quran. They want to make everybody believe their man god by force.

BETATRON:
that's because you're ignorant and bent on disproving the Koran.

Cause if you're not ignorant you will understand does verses clearly

And if you are not bent on disproving the koran you wouldn't quote surahs like 2vs193 and turn a blind eye to 190 or surah 47vs3nd4 and run away from vs1

Well all your efforts has gone to waste try harder next time

This is my last reply to you on this trend so don't bother quoting

plappville:
Just in case you dont understand the OP. This is in support of what the OP is exposing. The falsehood of allah.



1) The ability to create:
The Qur'an says,
"That is Allah, your Lord! There is no god but
He, the Creator of all things" (Surah 6:102)
"For verily it is thy Lord who is the All-
Creator, knowing all things" (Surah 15:86)
"Those on whom, besides Allah, ye call,
cannot create (even) a fly, if they all met
together for the purpose" (Surah 22:73)
"Those whom they invoke besides Allah
create nothing and are themselves
created" (Surah 16:20)
"Is then he who creates like one that creates
not?" (Surah 16:17)
These are but some of the verses that restrict
the ability to create to God only. When God
wanted to distinguish Himself from other
gods, He highlighted this attribute of His that
surpassed all other gods. Meanwhile, the
Qur'an clearly admits that Christ created
things:
"I make for you out of clay, as it were, the
figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it
becomes a bird by Allah's leave" (Surah 3:49)
"Thou makest out of clay, as it were, the
figure of a bird, by my leave, and thou
breathest into it, and it becometh a bird by my
leave" (Surah 5:110)
When I read these verses, I thought in my
heart: it was God who gave Christ this ability;
it was not part of His essence even though,
Christ was the only One on whom God
bestowed one of His divine attributes. Why
Christ and not Mohammed? God said to
Mohammed,
"Canst thou cause the deaf to hear the
call?" (Surah 27:80),
which is a lot easier than creation. God did not
give Mohammed, the best of His people and
the Seal of the Prophets, the ability to make
the deaf hear. He challenged people to create
a fly ,but gave Christ the ability to create
birds. Birds are small creatures, but it is not a
matter of size, but of principle. He who
creates a small creature can create a big one.
This cannot be of man, but of God.

This is just a part of the article someone posted in my trend. It is eye opening for muslims who truelly seek the one true God.

BETATRON:
lol...I have made my point

The koran clearly state---DO not LEt EVEN HATRED for a people lead you towards commiting injustice--quran5vs8

To clarify more on the verse read the exegesis of the verse and see for your self

Have a nice night

cybaj09:
I think thid will answer your question

The Noble Quran 60:8

Allah does not forbid that you be kind and just to those who did not fight against you on account of religion, nor drove you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are equitable.

The Noble Quran 60:8

Allah only forbids you to be friends with those who have fought against you on account of religion and who have driven you out of your homes and have abetted in your expulsion. And any who make friends with them, they are the wrong-doers.[/color][color=#006600]

cybaj09:
I think thid will answer your question

The Noble Quran 60:8

Allah does not forbid that you be kind and just to those who did not fight against you on account of religion, nor drove you out of your homes. Surely Allah loves those who are equitable.

The Noble Quran 60:8

Allah only forbids you to be friends with those who have fought against you on account of religion and who have driven you out of your homes and have abetted in your expulsion. And any who make friends with them, they are the wrong-doers.[/color][color=#006600]

BETATRON:
surah48vs29----by being HARD,FIRM,STRICT with DISBELIEVERS it means----They are not such that the
disbelievers may mold them as they like. They can
neither be cowed nor purchased by any inducement.
The disbelievers have no power to turn them away
from the great objective for the sake of which they
have joined and followed the Prophet (peace be upon
him) even at the cost of their lives.

Every religion is adviced to do thesame as regard DISBELIEVERS AND UNBELIEVE---II corinthians6vs14---Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For
what do righteousness and wickedness have in
common? Or what fellowship can light have with
darkness?

RomanZeus:
How old are you bro?

gimakon:
http://thinkpol.ca/2015/11/17/isis-is-an-islamic-problem-says-a-muslim-mans-viral-post/

This is coming from a muslim, says ISIS is an islamic problem. CHRISTIANS, HINDU, BUDDHA. Are not part of ISIS, yet nairaland muslims say ISIS are not Muslims and start insulting Everyone, question is who are they?

Am happy some muslims can see the very truth now.

gimakon:
This is even coming in now,

http://thinkpol.ca/2015/11/17/isis-is-an-islamic-problem-says-a-muslim-mans-viral-post/

Says ISIS follows everything in the Quran to the letter. Now if it's the Quran they follow, how then is it a religion of peace?

mamsong9:
In African society we all know that sheep symbolize foolishness, i.e Mumuism

mamsong9:
See, a sheep would always b a sheep.

truthman2012:
Is islam and arab paganism not the same.

If only God is capable of giving life to a non-living thing and Jesus did it in islam, is He not God?

Quran says only allah could do miracles and Jesus did, is He not God?

mamsong9:
You can only resorted to abuse when you are out of point.

BETATRON:
again you commit the same mistakes

You skipped Quran-47;34--indeed those Who are faithless and BAR(prevent people) from the way of Allah and then die in this manner Allah will never forgive them

Same crime you committed with the second verse

You skipped Quran9vs13--will you not Fight the PEOPLE WHO BROKE THEIR PLEDGES and RESOLVED TO EXPEL THE APOSTLE and OPENED(hostilities) against then INITIALLY?

Already expelled QURAN3vs151--its of the terror of the hereafter for non believers,wrongdoers and faithless---what objection do you have against this??

Quran8vs59-60--explains itself---but verse56 makes it clearer------THOSE wtih whom you made a TREATY(of peace),and who VIOLATED their treaty EVERY TIME and WHO and Not GODweary----

Verse61 goes further to clarify---and if they INCLINE towards peace,then you(too) incline toward it and put your Trust in God

---how come you got to verse3and 4 of surah47 without passing through Verse1

Quran47vs1--those who are(themselves) FAITHLESS and BAR(prevent,,prosecute e.t.c) from the way of Allah---He has made their works go awry

And then you deem it truthful to skip a part of verse4 because it does not suit your objectives right

THE PARt YOU SKIPPED
----thereafter either oblige them(by setting them free) or take ransom till the war lays down it burdens

tartar9:
what now makes you xtians any different from pagans

tartar9:
when will you have sense old man. was Elijah not also taken to heaven

Annunaki:
Because allahh is the greatest deceiver, he used the name of Christ to gain credibility for his false religion.

Annunaki:
Why do you muslims love lying so much The quoran clearly states that the Jizya is levied to humiliate non muslims and not as a state tax to assist the poor as you falsely claimed. It really amazes me that muslims routinely tell glaring lies in the face of overwhelming evidence from their unholy books just to make islam what it's not. If I am so ashamed about the truths about my religion and I have to routinely tell lies to make it look better wouldn't it make sense to renounce such a depraved religion than to continually make one self to look like a big f00l defending glaring lies.

proo212:
I think the poster just wanted to take a part of the verse and discard the rest of it, to prove his assertions which obviously backfires against him.

John 17:1-5 New King James Version


Let's exegete the verses. This same passage that BETRATRON is trying to use to pick out that there's only one TRUE GOD, backfires because that one TRUE GOD has a SON. That same ONE TRUE GOD gave His Son authority over all flesh (including Mohammed) and will give eternal life to as many as would believe Him.

This ONE TRUE GOD is glorifying/will continue to glorify His Son who existed before the world was.

BETATRON:
with money you can get a certificate in whatever field in other words certificates can be forged

About the gradual prohibition of alcohol that is subject for another day

Since you are unable to quote quran2vs190 and 8vs36 lemme save you the misery

QURAN2vs190--fight in the way of Allah those WHO FiGHT YOU and DO NOT BE TRANSGRESSOR for Allah HATES THE TRANGRESSOR---with this any body with some sense will understand succeeding verses not cutting the verse and making false claims

QURAN3VS36--indeed the FAITHLESS SPEND their WEALTh to BAR(prevent you) FRom the way of ALlah---continues----

This alone is enough to explain the Quran8vs39--fight them until FitNAL(trail,tribulations,prosecution---every method deviced to bar the muslim from the way of God) iS NO MORE

BETATRON:
am not referring to the trend but to her statement bro

yazach:
golugo

BETATRON:
read john17:3 and see what jesus said after reading please quote it

I have questions for you with regards to that verse

BETATRON:
my brother,,take for example the commandments for the prohibition of alcoholism
--the verses were sent down gradually but all based on the single fact that alcoholism is prohibited..

Substituting-means replacing something with another thing of the same kind but maybe better in quality like changing a football player for another you can't change a football player for a basketballer can you?

Changing something with another of a different kind is abolishing not substituting

Here we are talking of "clarification" so quote 2vs190 and 8vs36 and see what clarity means

Or are you afraid??