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aob2882:
Preface to the Revised Standard Version
(2nd ed., 1971) Paragraph 7
Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. The task was undertaken, by authority of the Church of England, in 1870. The English Revised Version of the Bible was published in 1881-1885; and the American Standard Version, its variant embodying the preferences of the American scholars associated in the work, was published in 1901.

Dismissed for want of evidence.

I rise !!

aob2882:
BIBLE SCHOLAR PLEASE WHO IS THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY?

Google it.

aminusanti:
you're here again lieman?

In it diluted form i agreed with this 100% but in it original/true form never...

Luke 24:44 is simply talking about Prophecies about Christ in the Old-Testament.
But who is the author of Gospel of Luke?Let us read John F. O'Grady:
"In the opening statement (1:1-4), the author explains the aim and reason for writing the Gospels.for the sake of the "most excellent Theophilus".
"Since at least the second century A.D., the author has been identified as Luke, "a beloved physician", and a companion of Paul(Col. 4:14). This identification, however, is by no means conclusive; there is no definitive evidence to support it."
So, Luke wrote the Gospel not for the sake of God or Jesus or anything like that. Rather, the "gospel" was written for some unknown guy "Theophilus".


Do you know how many chronological contradiction are there in Bible that even christian scholar Eduard Schweizer admit it and said in its commentary:
Eduard Schweizer, The Good News According to Matthew, (Atlanta: John Knox Press, 1975), Pg. 406:
"There is no way to resolve the contradiction."
??

Let's agree with what you are referring is right for the sake of argument Same question can be asked about other Biblical Prophets.For example;did Moses have any witnesses or was he foretold in any previous book to prove that he was truthful?did King David have any witnesses or was foretold in the books that came before him?Did Solomon, Ezra, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Job and the rest of the Prophets foretold each others?Were the Disciples of Jesus foretold in the Bible? Was the Disciple Paul foretold in the Bible, since he never even met Jesus in person?
The answer to the all of the above is NO.

you have attempted to prove that Jesus is the Prophet in Deuteronomy 18-18, if Jesus is the Prophet, than how he can be you sham god??

The man you quoted is an atheist. He has no spirit of the Bible to give correct interpretation.

For contradictions, the whole quran is total contradiction as allahh keeps abrogating his revelations:


https://www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran

plappville:
Islam = Errors

Yes o !

aob2882:
You created topic without facts.
Who ruled by COMPULSION christians or muslims?

LUKE 19:27(KJV)But those mine enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring them hither and slay them before me.’”

Allah said, Quran 2 vs 256

﴿لاَ إِكْرَاهَ فِى الدِّينِ﴾

(There is no compulsion in religion), meaning, "Do not force anyone to become Muslim, for Islam is plain and clear, and its proofs and evidence are plain and clear. Therefore, there is no need to force anyone to embrace Islam. Rather, whoever Allah directs to Islam, opens his heart for it and enlightens his mind, will embrace Islam with certainty. Whoever Allah blinds his heart and seals his hearing and sight, then he will not benefit from being forced to embrace Islam.''

﴿لاَ إِكْرَاهَ فِى الدِّينِ قَد تَّبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ﴾

(There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the right path has become distinct from the wrong path.)''

So where did you get you fact from.
You cannot quench the light of God with your own mouth and pen.
Please just keep on written till you realize the truth

Go through this for your education:

https://www.nairaland.com/2755356/muslims-it-true-there-no

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[Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the
messenger of Allah. And those
with him are HARD against the
disbelievers and merciful among
themselves......


Here is Allah's testimony
concerning the Christians:


[Quran 57:27] Then We made Our
messengers to follow in their
footsteps, and We sent Isa son of
Marium afterwards, and We gave
him the Injeel, and We put in the
hearts of those who followed him
KINDNESS and MERCY.........


Now compare and contrast, which of these can be terrorists?

tartar9:
do you know what proof is,where is the proof?

What is your take ?

https://www.nairaland.com/2764068/muhammad-didnt-see-virgin-heaven

[quote author=Empiree post=40432757][/quote]When no more defence muslims resort to abuses. Is that e-jihad? Smh !!!


What is your take here?


https://www.nairaland.com/2764068/muhammad-didnt-see-virgin-heaven

[quote author=Empiree post=40432757][/quote]When no more defence muslims resort to abuses. Is that e-jihad? Smh !!!

plappville:
You want to validate islam with Athiest views th3n you are rendering the quran a lie as we know it is. Do you know of a jewish athiest called Josephus? He wrote a book 93–94 AD. He confirmed the crucifixion of Jesus by Pilate. Which your prophet who came about 500 years later denied. Although christians do not need outside source to prove the Messiahs death. We trust the bible for its divine messages concerning Jesus. Many things that Jesus said will happen, has happened and are still happening in our eyes. Jesus saw Muhammad coming to lie to the world that he is a true prophet..He warned us about the coming of false prophets. The apostle Paul saw Muhammad coming to preach another Jesus to the world. Etcetera. Muslims have nothing to say to convince a true Christian because it is written, Satan is the "god of this world who has blinded the eyes of the people ao that they will not see the true light of the gospel of Jesus Christ.". And this verse is pointing at islam.

Love this !

Annunaki:
Raping of nine year old girls is part of the sunnah of mohamed, it's halal in islam

Raping girls will draw them closer to allahh. Like allahh, like Muhammad like muslims.

Korokoro allahh na satan.

malvisguy212:
analyze the verse if you can.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad was
asked by his contemporaries to perform
a single miracle, he either remained
silent or said that he could not do so
because he was no more than just an
ordinary human being. The most explicit of these passages is in Surah 17:90-93:

They said, “We will not believe you
unless you cause a spring to gush out
of the ground. “Or unless you own a
garden of date palms and grapes,
with rivers running through it. “Or
unless you cause masses from the
sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or
unless you bring GOD and the angels
before our eyes. “Or unless you own
a luxurious mansion, or unless you
climb into the sky. Even if you do
climb, we will not believe unless you
bring a book that we can read.” Say,
“Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

Is elijah ,Moses,Jeremiah and the rest prophet not HUMAN ? Why did they performed miracle with the exception of muhammed?

Allahh is an idol who lacks the capacity to endow Muhammad the gift of working miracles. Otherwise, why would his greatest prophet be powerless spiritually?

Muhammad was looking at his jihadists languishing in excruciating pains of poison and he could do nothing as a 'prophet'. What kind of spiritually powerless prophet is that?

[quote author=aob2882 post=40430209][/quote]LUKE 19:27(KJV)But those mine
enemies, who would not that I
should reign over them, bring
them hither and slay them
before me.’”

Jesus was referring to the Day of Judgement, when the unGodly shall be condemned to second death.

If you would be honest to yourself, you should agree that Jesus didn't kill anybody on earth, he instead was healing and raising the dead. But Muhammad was only beheading and cutting innocent people's fingers.

Annunaki:
It's not possible to list all the lies in islam in one thread, the lies are just too numerous. At the last count over 1,000 errors/contradictions have been clearly identified in the quoran.

Na true !

I will just compile some.

aob2882:
HA CHRISTIANS WHY ARE YOU ABUSING THE TRUE MEN OF THE PAST (SOLOMON AND DAVID) why did you (Christian) place too much reliance on your inconsistent and continuous revised book which you claim to be the word of God

Jeremiah 8:8(KJV) How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
This verse is telling you that your Holy Book is corrupt.
Please dont trust your book.
Solomon and his father were true men of God.
O.K i am challenging all christian since you know that Solomon and David were Idolater why did you name your children David, and Solomon?

(Surah Al-Baqarah, 2:101)

وَاتَّبَعُوا مَا تَتْلُو الشَّيَاطِينُ عَلَى مُلْكِ سُلَيْمَانَ وَمَا كَفَرَ سُلَيْمَانُ وَلَكِنَّ الشَّيَاطِينَ كَفَرُوا يُعَلِّمُونَ النَّاسَ السِّحْرَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَى الْمَلَكَيْنِ بِبَابِلَ هَارُوتَ وَمَارُوتَ وَمَا يُعَلِّمَانِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ حَتَّى يَقُولاَ إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ فِتْنَةٌ فَلاَ تَكْفُرْ فَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مِنْهُمَا مَا يُفَرِّقُونَ بِهِ بَيْنَ الْمَرْءِ وَزَوْجِهِ وَمَا هُمْ بِضَارِّينَ بِهِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مَا يَضُرُّهُمْ وَلاَ يَنفَعُهُمْ وَلَقَدْ عَلِمُوا لَمَنْ اشْتَرَاهُ مَا لَهُ فِي الآخِرَةِ مِنْ خَلاَقٍ وَلَبِئْسَ مَا شَرَوْا بِهِ أَنفُسَهُمْ لَوْ كَانُوا يَعْلَمُونَ

“They followed what the Shayatin (devils) gave out (falsely of the magic) in the lifetime of Suleiman. Suleiman did not disbelieve, but the Shayatin disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Harut and Marut, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, “We are for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us).” And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah’s leave. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not. And indeed they knew that the buyers of it (magic) would have no share in the Hereafter. And how bad indeed was that for which they sold their own selves, if they but knew.”

(Surah Al-Baqarah, 2:102)

You lack knowledge of the Bible.

Jeremiah was talking about misinterpretation of Mosaic Law. If the laws are corrupted, why did Jeremiah himself and later prophets observe the same laws?

plappville:
No be you talk am joor. Remember allah also said fighting is prescribed for them. But they hate it..

Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

As fighting is prescribed for them so, why are they saying islam is a religion of peace ? Are fighters peaceful ?

Muslims, am still waiting for your answer o !

Don't tell me you are ignoring the thread, you have been making noise here and there when you think you have a point.

Or do you want me to add it to the list of LIES in islam? God willing, I will compile all the LIES in islam, which are irrefutable in one thread very soon, be getting ready.

[quote author=yazach post=40424105][/quote]With the modern and current realities, islam cannot grow anymore.


Stop deceiving yourself.

truthman2012:
Jesus said there will be no marriage in heaven and there will be no male or female as we shall be like angels, who have no sex:

Mat. 22:30
At the resurrection people will
neither marry nor be given in
marriage; they will be like the
angels in heaven.

But allahh said no, he shall wed muslims to virgins:

So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes (Quran 44:54)
No doubt islam is about sex, sex and even sex in their heaven. Serious !

But when Muhammad claimed he travelled to heaven in a night journey, he said he saw Abraham, Moses and other recorgnized prophets in islam. There he got muslims' prayers reduced from 50 times to 5 times a day. Is there record of 50 prayers per day being practiced by muslims really? He also said he saw more women than men in hell.

But he didn't see:

1. Virgins for muslims who were already in muslims' heaven, not even for Abraham and Moses. Where are they?

2.The jihadits who died fighting for allahh. Where are they?

No response from muslims?

Don't you too know where the virgins and jihadists are?

Again, tell me if truly muslims did actually prayed 50 times before?

plappville:
Ignorance is a disease which argument cannot cure.

GOD THREATENED HIS PEOPLE. his People agreed to do whatever Yahweh said to them. They were aware Yahweh is a God of love and of Justice. I love my kids and I give them the best education they desarve. If my kids go the wrong way, I will handle them. As long as it's for thier own good. But I can't do same with my neighbor's child. Disputing your child for wrong doing is a sign of love not hate. But Allah threatens and even kill people who do not care if He exist. Kill People who feed and educate his followers.(Muslims) Allah is Satan. Now that radical Muslims will no longer benefit from the Western social system. We shall see how Allah will use Saudi Arabia to help them. Shameless fellows. Punishing themselves for an idol god who cannot even save them..

Thank you for telling them jor !

Allah himself said muslims are wicked people:

Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are HARD against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves......

Na me talk am?

Is it not their hardness (wickedness) against disbelievers that make them throw bombs killing infidels? In Muhammad's time, it was beheading.

Jesus said there will be no marriage in heaven and there will be no male or female as we shall be like angels, who have no sex:

Mat. 22:30
At the resurrection people will
neither marry nor be given in
marriage; they will be like the
angels in heaven.

But allahh said no, he shall wed muslims to virgins:

So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes (Quran 44:54)
No doubt islam is about sex, sex and even sex in their heaven. Serious !

But when Muhammad claimed he travelled to heaven in a night journey, he said he saw Abraham, Moses and other recorgnized prophets in islam. There he got muslims' prayers reduced from 50 times to 5 times a day. Is there record of 50 prayers per day being practiced by muslims really? He also said he saw more women than men in hell.

But he didn't see:

1. Virgins for muslims who were already in muslims' heaven, not even for Abraham and Moses. Where are they?

2.The jihadits who died fighting for allahh. Where are they?

mahdino:
Grave Warning
“See!” I told the Dominee, “how the prophecies fit Muhammad like a glove. We do not have to stretch prophecies to justify their fulfillment in Muhammad.” The Dominee replied, “All your expositions sound very well, but they are of no real consequence, because we Christians have Jesus Christ the incarnate God, who has redeemed us from the Bondage of Sin!” I asked: “Not important? God didn’t think so! He had His warnings recorded in the scriptures. God knew that there would be people like you who will light-heartedly discount His words, so He followed up Deuteronomy 18:18 with a dare warning:
‘And it shall come to pass (it is going to happen), that whosoever will not hearken unto My words which he shall speak in My Name, I will require if of him.’
(In the Catholic Bible the ending words are ‘I will be the revenger’, ‘I will take revenge!’). “Does not this terrify you? God Almighty is threatening revenge! We shake in our pants if some hoodlum threatens us, yet you have no fear of God’s warning?”
Miracle of Miracles! in the verse 19 of Deuteronomy chapter 18, we have a further fulfillment of the prophecy in Muhammad! Note the words ‘..My words which he shall speak in My Name’. In whose name is Muhammad speaking?” I opened Yusuf Ali’s translation of the Holy Quran, at chapter 114, Surat An-Nas, or The Chapter of Mankind, the last chapter of the Quran, and showed him the formula at the head of the chapter, and the meaning:
‘In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful’.
And the heading of chapter 113, and the meaning: ‘In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful’. And every chapter downwards 112, 111, 110,..was the same formula and the same meaning on every page, because the end surahs (chapters) are short and take about a page each. And what did the prophecy demand? ‘..Which he shall speak in My Name'; and in whose name does Muhammad speak? In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
The Prophecy is being fulfilled in Muhammad to the letter; every chapter of the Holy Quran except the 9th begin with the formula: ‘In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful’. The Muslim begins his every lawful act with the Holy formula. But the Christian begins: ‘In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.’
Concerning Deuteronomy chapter eighteen, I have given you more than 15 reasons as to how this prophecy refers to Muhammad and not to Jesus.
Baptist Contradicts Jesus
In New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfillment of the prophecy of One like Moses, refer John 1:19-25.
When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to esquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief:
“Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, that Elias is come already, and they knew him not,.. then the Disciples understood that he spoke unto them of John the Baptist.” (Mathew 17:11-13).
According to the New Testament the Jews were not the ones to swallow the words of any would-be Messiah. In their investigations they underwent intense difficulties in order to find their true Messiah. And this the Gospel of John confirms: “And this is the record of John (the Baptist), when the Jews sent priests and levites from Jerusalem to ask him, ‘Who art thou?’, and he confessed and denied not; but confessed, ‘I am not the Christ’ ” (This was only natural because there can’t be two Messiahs at the same time. If Jesus was the Christ then John couldn’t be the Christ!) “And they asked him: ‘What then? Art thou Elias?’ And he saith: ‘I am not’ ” Here John the Baptist contradicts Jesus! Jesus says that John is Elias and John denies that he is what Jesus ascribes him to be. One of the two (Jesus or John), God forbid!, is definitely not speaking the truth!
On the testimony of Jesus himself, John the Baptist was the greatest of the Israelite prophets: “Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women, there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist” (Matthew 11:11).
We Muslims know John the Baptist as Yahya. We revere him as a true prophet of Allah. The Holy Prophet Jesus known to us as Eesa, is also esteemed as one of the mightiest messenger of the Almighty. How can we Muslims impute lies to either of them? We leave this problem between Jesus and John for the Christians to solve, for their “Sacred Scriptures abound in discrepancies which they have been glossing over as the ‘dark sayings of Jesus’ ” (See the Times Magazine December 30th, 1974, article How true is the Bible?).
We Muslims are really interested in the last questions posed to John the Baptist by the Jewish elite – Art thou that prophet? And he answered, “No.”(John 1:21).
Three Questions!
Please note that three different and distinct questions were posed to John the Baptist, and to which he gave three emphatic No’s as answers. To recapitulate:
“Art thou the Christ?”
“Art thou Elias ?”
“Art thou that Prophet?”
But the learned men of Christendom somehow only see two questions implied here. To make doubly clear that the Jews definitely had three separate prophecies in their minds when they were interrogating John the Baptist. Let us read the remonstrance of the Jews in the verses following:
“And they asked him, and said unto him: ‘Why baptizest thou then, if
thou be not that Christ..
nor Elias..
neither that Prophet ?’ ”
(John 1:25).
The Jews were waiting for the fulfillment of three distinct prophecies: a. the coming of Christ. b. the coming of Elias, and c. the coming of that Prophet.
“That Prophet”
If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, then we will find in the marginal note where the words the Prophet, or that Prophet occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that that Prophet – the Prophet like Moses – “Like unto thee”, we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was Muhammad and not Jesus!
Muslims are not denying that Jesus was the Messiah, which word is translated as Christ. We are not contesting the Thousand and One Prophecies which the Christians claim abound in the Old Testament foretelling the coming of the Messiah. What we say is that Deuteronomy 18:18 does not refer to Jesus Christ but it is an explicit prophecy about the prophet Muhammad!.”
The Dominee, very politely parted with me by saying that it was a very interesting discussion and he would like me very much to come one day and address his congregation on the subject. A decade and half has passed since then but I am still awaiting that privilege.
I believe the Dominee was sincere when he made the offer, but prejudices die hard, and who would like to loose his sheep?
The Acid Test
To the Lambs of Christ I say, why not apply that acid test which the Master himself wanted you to apply to any would be claimant to prophethood? He had said:
“By their fruits ye shall know them. Do men gather grapes from the thorns, of figs from the thistles? Every good tree will bear good fruit and every evil tree will bear evil fruit… By their fruits ye shall know them”. (Mathew 7:16-20).
Why are you afraid to apply this test to the teachings of Muhammad? You will find in the Last Testament of God, the Holy Quran, the true fulfillment of the teachings of Moses and Jesus which will bring to the world the much needed peace and happiness. George Bernard Shaw was quoted as saying:
“If a man like Muhammad were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness.”
The weekly news magazine Time dated July 15, 1974, carried a selection of opinions by various historians, writers, military men, businessmen an others on the subject: “Who were History’s Great Leaders?” Some said that it was Hitler; others said Gandhi, Buddha, Lincoln and the like. But Jules Masserman, a United States psychoanalyst, put the standards straight by giving the correct criteria wherewith to judge. He said: “Leaders must fulfill three functions:
Provide for the well-being of the led,
Provide a social organization in which people feel relatively secure, and
Provide them with one set of beliefs.”
With the above three criteria he searches history and analyses Hitler, Pasteur, Gaesar, Moses, Confucius and the lot, and ultimately concludes: “People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Ghandi and Confucius, on one hand, and Alexander, Caesar, and Hitler on the other, are leaders in the second, and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Muhammad, who combined all three functions. To a lesser degree, Moses did the same.”
According to the objective standards set by the professor of the Chicago University, Jesus and Buddha are nowhere in the picture of the “Great Leaders of Mankind”, but by a queer coincidence groups Moses and Muhammad together, thus adding further weight to the argument that Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. Deut 18:18 “Like unto thee”, like Moses!
In conclusion, I end with a quotation of a Christian Reverend the commentator of the Bible, followed by that of his Master:
“The ultimate criterion of a true prophet is the moral character of his teaching.” (Prof. Dummelow).
“By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Jesus Christ)
A concluding suggestion : come let us reason together!
“Say: ‘O People of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah (God); that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, lords and patrons other than Allah (God)’. If then they turn back, say: ‘Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (Bowing to God’s Will).’ ” (the Holy Quran 3:64)
People of the Book is the respectful title given to the Jews and the Christians in the Holy Quran. The Muslims are here commanded to invite, O People of the Book!, O Learned People!, O People who claim to be the recipients of Divine Revelation, of a Holy Scripture; let us gather together onto a common platform, “that we worship none but Allah (God)”, because none but God is worthy of worship, not because “The Lord thy God is a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me.” (Exodus 20:25). But because He is our Lord and Cherisher, our Sustainer and Evolver, worthy of all praise, prayer and devotion.
In the abstract the Jews and the Christians would agree to all the three propositions contained in this Quranic verse. In practice they fail. Apart from doctrinal lapses from the unity of the One True God, Allah, may He be praised, there is the question of a consecrated Priesthood (among the Jews it was hereditary also), as if a mere human being – Cohen or Pope, or Priest, or Brahuman, – could claim superiority apart from his learning and the purity of his life, or could stand between man and God in some special sense. Islam does not recognize priesthood!.
The Creed of Islam is given to us here in a nutshell from Holy Quran:
“Say ye: ‘We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes (of the Children of Israel), And that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).’ ” (the Holy Quran 2:136).
The Muslim position is clear. The Muslim does not claim to have a religion peculiar to himself. Islam is not a sect or an ethnic religion. In its view all religion is one, for the Truth is one:
“It was the same religion preached by all the earlier prophets.” (the Holy Quran 42:13).
It was the truth taught by all the inspired Books. In essence it amounts to a consciousness of the Will and Plan of God and a joyful submission to that Will and Plan. If anyone wants a religion other than that, he is false to his own nature, as he is false to God’s Will and Plan. Such a one cannot expect guidance, for he has deliberately renounced guidance.

You keep posting Muhammad in the Bible even when it is irrelevant to the thread topic.

Nobody can know the interpretation of Deuteromy 181:8 better than Jesus, who said Moses was referring to Him:

And he (Jesus) said unto them,
These are the words which I spake
unto you while I was yet with you,
that all things must be fulfilled,
which were written in the law of
MOSES and in the PROPHETS and
in PSALMS, concerning ME (Luke
24:44).

Jesus in that verse said Moses and ALL prophets were prophesying about Him in all Bible references muslims claim are talking about Muhammad. Do they know better than Jesus?

Hero10001:
Your point is prophet moha imparted high sex libido to muslims right?!

Not directly, but it is the demons of islam that are actually responsible for their sexual inspirations.

Muhammad himself was a normal man sexually speaking until he had contact with islamic Gabriel.

BETATRON:
lol...funny dude...thought you were defending the acts of the crusaders...now they aint christians no more

How were the crusaders Christians when they didn't follow the doctrine of peace Jesus left behind?

John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, my
peace I give unto you: not as
the world giveth, give I unto
you. Let not your heart be
troubled, ...

Hebrews 12:14
Follow peace with all men,
and holiness, without which no
man shall see the Lord.

Islam that doesn't follow peace with all people is not a way to see God.

tartar9:
keep deceiving yourself,there have never been any mass forced conversion in the entire Islam history like in xtianity.the north had been Muslim majority centuries before Uthman Dan fodio and multiple wives do not contribute to population growth dunce.

Look at this man telling clear LIES. Smh !

mahdino:
What famous non-Muslims said about Islam and Prophet Muhammad PBUH

Napoleon Bonaparte

I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Quran which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness.



Sir George Bernard Shaw

I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity.

I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.



H.G. Wells

The Islamic teachings have left great traditions for equitable and gentle dealings and behaviour, and inspire people with nobility and tolerance. These are human teachings of the highest order and at the same time practicable. These teachings brought into existence a society in which hard-heartedness and collective oppression and injustice were the least as compared with all other societies preceding it… Islam is replete with gentleness, courtesy, and fraternity.



Phillip Hitti

During all the first part of the Middle Ages, no other people made as important a contribution to human progress as did the Arabs, if we take this term to mean all those whose mother-tongue was Arabic, and not merely those living in the Arabian peninsula. For centuries, Arabic was the language of learning, culture and intellectual progress for the whole of the civilized world with the exception of the Far East. From the 9th to the 12th century there were more philosophical, medical, historical, religious, astronomical and geographical works written in Arabic than in any other human tongue.



R. Bosworth Smith

He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope’s pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life.



Sarojini Naidu

It was the first religion that preached and practised democracy; for, in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: ‘God Alone is Great’



Dr. William Draper

Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man who, of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race… To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God.



Thomas Carlyle

The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.

A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so.



A. S. Tritton

The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur’an in the other is quite false.



De Lacy O’Leary

History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.



Gibbon

The good sense of Muhammad despised the pomp of royalty. The Apostle of God submitted to the menial offices of the family; he kindled the fire; swept the floor; milked the ewes; and mended with his own hands his shoes and garments. Disdaining the penance and merit of a hermit, he observed without effort of vanity the abstemious diet of an Arab.



Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley

The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force.



Edward Montet

Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically… the teachings of the Prophet, the Qur’an has invariably kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur a majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam… A creed so precise, so stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed possess a marvellous power of winning its way into the consciences of men.



Mahatma Gandhi

I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind… I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.



Alphonse de LaMartaine

If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls.



Michael Hart

My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level.

…It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. .

..It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.



Rodwell

Mohammad’s career is a wonderful instance of the force and life that resides in him who possesses an intense faith in God and in the unseen world. He will always be regarded as one of those who have had that influence over the faith, morals and whole earthly life of their fellow men, which none but a really great man ever did, or can exercise; and whose efforts to propagate a great verity will prosper.



W. Montgomery Watt

His readiness to undergo persecution for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as a leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems that it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad…

Thus, not merely must we credit Muhammad with essential honesty and integrity of purpose, if we are to understand him at all; if we are to correct the errors we have inherited from the past, we must not forget the conclusive proof is a much stricter requirement than a show of plausibility, and in a matter such as this only to be attained with difficulty.



D. G. Hogarth in ‘Arabia’

Serious or trivial, his daily behaviour has instituted a canon which millions observe this day with conscious memory. No one regarded by any section of the human race as Perfect Man has ever been imitated so minutely.The conduct of the founder of Christianity has not governed the ordinary life of his followers. Moreover, no founder of a religion has left on so solitary an eminence as the Muslim apostle.



Washington Irving

He was sober and abstemious in his diet and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected but a result of real disregard for distinction from so trivial a source.

In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints.

His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting a regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonials of respect were shown to him. If he aimed at a universal dominion, it was the dominion of faith; as to the temporal rule which grew up in his hands, as he used it without ostentation, so he took no step to perpetuate it in his family.



James Michener

No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in the support of the freedom of conscience.

It is most amazing to note that you are saying what you are saying despite the quranic injunctions which have been made clear to you.

Those people you quoted have no good knowledge of islam by then and am sure by now they would have eaten up their words if they are still alive.

By the way, if those people were quoted contexually right, why did they not convert to islam?

Hero10001:
Solomon?!
What of David?! He wasn't a christian and possessed too?!
You've got a shallow knoledge of the bible bro..
Kindly study it harder next time.

It is you who lack knowledge of the bible.

David and Solomon were kings and not prophets. Compare kings to kings and prophets to prophets.

Which of the true prophets had the strength of 30 men for sex and busy having sex day and night?

mebad:
Sorry bro are you trying to say Solomon was not a Christian before being lured into idol whorhipping ?

When did Christianity start?

Divid and Solomon were Jews.

Hero10001:
ahahaha!
No mind the Op jor..
Op, generallization is evil.

Firstly, Solomon was not a
Christian.

The Bible says Solomon was lured
into idolatry by his wife, meaning he
was possessed as well.