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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 8:30am On May 18, 2016

Ferisidowu:
hmm!! well i believe God is able to defend himself..... we as Christians shouldn't get angry when non Christians talk or air their views wrongly on christian issues.. ....... besides this topic could have posted in the Islamic or Muslim thread

How do you mean ?

Post this thread in Muslims' section that has been quarantined ?

Islam › Re: Quran 41:53: Fiction Or Reality? by truthman2012(op): 8:27am On May 18, 2016

The muslims are becoming speechless more and more in defending islam. Now that they have discovered that Islam cannot be defended because there is a limit you can keep defending falsehood, is it not reasonable to renounce it and embrace the truth ? The Yorubas have a proverb saying "anyone who wants to turn a lie to truth will have to fight a verbal war" . The muslims have been trying to fight a verbal war to defend Islam and are now tired.

Islam › Re: Quran 41:53: Fiction Or Reality? by truthman2012(op): 3:14pm On May 17, 2016

annunaki2:
The quoran is a collection of the figments of mohammed's hallucinations

And that is why the quran is a complete lie. Allah/Muhammad said they will show signs (proofs) that Quran is the truth but couldn't show anything. Islam is about lying and lying all the time.

Islam › Re: Do Israeli Muslims Call God Yahweh Or Allah ? by truthman2012(op): 3:08pm On May 17, 2016

annunaki2:
It will be very unfortunate for any Israeli citizen or jew to descend so low as to accept islam.

You are very right.

It is pathetic to note that Israelis, despite the face to face miracles God did for their fathers, some of them are deceived into Islam, a god that can not do any miracle. Allah has nothing to prove he is the Almighty God, the God of Israel.

Islam › Quran 41:53: Fiction Or Reality? by truthman2012(op): 2:47pm On May 17, 2016

Quran 41.53. We will show them Our manifest signs (proofs) in the horizons of the universe and within their own selves, until it will become manifest to them that it (the Qur'ān) is indeed the truth. Is it not sufficient (as proof) that your Lord is a witness over all things (just as He is witnessed to by all things)?

[ Quran 41:53 Shakir] We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and in their own souls, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things?

[ Quran 41:53 Pickthal] We shall show them Our portents on the horizons and within themselves until it will be manifest unto them that it is the Truth. [/b]Doth not thy Lord suffice, since He is Witness over all things?

[Quran 41:53 Yusufali] [b]Soon will We show them our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things?

Is that Quranic statement a reality or fiction ?

If it is a reality, can anyone show where allahh eventually showed the Sign that prove the Quran is the truth after that statement.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 2:16pm On May 17, 2016

tartar9:
Check your dictionary.

Trash !!!!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 1:52pm On May 17, 2016

tartar9:
STATEMENT

What do you mean ?

Islam › Re: Do Israeli Muslims Call God Yahweh Or Allah ? by truthman2012(op): 1:00pm On May 17, 2016

lekkie073:
according to ur bible...they were d first...but it is not factual.....God=Allah=Yahweh=any conception u have in ur mind about the existence of a supreme diety

But the quran confirms they are the first to receive God's revelation. In fact it calls them people of the Book.

What is God called in their Book ?

Is the God of their Book named Yahweh or Allah ? Why would they discard what they call God in their Book (local language) and change to a foreign language, Arabic, if the God is the same ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 12:40pm On May 17, 2016

truthman2012:
Where is tartar9 to answer my question na !

Islam › Do Israeli Muslims Call God Yahweh Or Allah ? by truthman2012(op): 12:26pm On May 17, 2016*

Is Yahweh the same as Allah ?

What do the Israeli muslims call God ?

If they call God allah discarding the name the Jews know God to be (Yahweh), it clearly shows Allah is not Yahweh the true God. One would expect them to call God in their local language (Yahweh) and not in Arabic language, afterall they are the ones to whom God first revealed Himself as Yahweh.

Christianity Etc › Re: Clear Error In The Bible: God Could Not Make Such A Mistake by truthman2012(m): 6:49pm On May 15, 2016

Medicis:
Jesus did not say during the tenure of Abiathar the high priest, he used the phrase "in the days of Abiathar". Was Abiathar not alive when David ate the bread?? When Muslims talk about the childhood of prophet muhammad why do they call him prophet. Was he a prophet when he was Child??

Thread totally debunked !!!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 2:28pm On May 15, 2016

Where is tartar9 to answer my question na !

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 10:30am On May 15, 2016*

tartar9:
Yes,that's if you have his selfie from 2000 years ago and knows exactly how he looks.

The proof that they saw the real Jesus is that their lives change for better. They turn away from the evils they were addicted to. They become better people in the society. Would the Devil change people's lives for better ? Answer the question.

They didn't see Jesus and became violent throwing bombs around.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 10:18am On May 15, 2016

The proof that they saw the real Jesus is that their lives change for better. They turn away from the evils they were addicted to. They become better people in the society. Would the Devil change people's lives for better ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 9:50am On May 15, 2016

tartar9:
What difference does It make; a being(white man with long hair lol) appears and converts someone to a false belief.Does people are mostly hallucinating,liars or simply under the deceit of shaitan and his minions.What proof do you have to show if that's really Jesus,afterwards we also have more visions of people seeing Mary.

No Devil can impersonate Jesus.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 8:52am On May 15, 2016

tartar9:
Just the same way krishna converts 'Muslims' to hinduism

Does your quran recognize Krishna ?

Since the quran recognizes Jesus as a prophet of God and he is converting muslims to Christianity, it is just a simple logic that Jesus is against Islam and that the religion is not from God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 8:48am On May 15, 2016

Elohim1:
THEY WERE CHURCHES B4 CHRISTIANITY O OR DIDNT JESUS GO TO TEMPLE TO PREACH

Is the temple the same as church ? Do they call the temple church ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 9:42am On May 14, 2016

If Islam is the religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus etc, why would Jesus be taking people out of it?

Kaaba had been in existence at the time of Moses, Jesus, Jesus Disciples and other Bible prophets. None of them talked about it nor visited there. If it was truly built by Abraham as a house of God and a resort for all mankind, would they not have talked about it or visited it as muslims do today? The truth is, Kaaba was built by pagans for their idols, which Satan in his wisdom converted to the house of God to deceive humanity.

It is only those who are ready to spend their eternal life in hell would still remain muslims after reading this thread.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 9:45pm On May 13, 2016

Elohim1:
JESUS NEVA FOUNDED CHRISTANITY JESUS NEVER PREACHED ABOUT IT!

You are ignorant of the Bible.

Jesus never founded Christianity but yet invites people to it. How do you reason ?

Read the Book of Revelation and see where Jesus addressed the Churches.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 8:03pm On May 13, 2016

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

There is no salvation in any other than Jesus Christ. This is a statement made long before Muhammad was born. It wasn't meant to discredit him as he was not around then.

Since only the name of Jesus can bring salvation, why would God introduce islam ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 6:31pm On May 13, 2016

My Muslim friends seem to have nothing to say or should I wait a little more ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 5:11pm On May 13, 2016

tripplephi:
Bros stop asking a rhetoric question.... Your post suggests that you believe Jesus is the son of God... So if he has been converting people then it must mean that what he converts them from is not the right path.... So stop asking a confused question. There is no discussion here. He has already proven it that he is a saviour hence is he takes people from Islam then it means Islam is not the path he wants anyone to be. Pls follow the word of God.... And be at peace.

What is the moral of this statement or what is the lesson from this ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 5:09pm On May 13, 2016

respect80:
Is Jesus even a prophet of Islam

Not at all. Islam is not from the true God, hence Jesus taking away the faithful but ignorant away from the religion.

Jesus said ''And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to ALL NATIONS and then the end will come (Mat.24:14).

God's last message to the world is the Gospel as it is expected to be preached till the end of the world, which means islam is not in God's plan of salvation to mankind.

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Christianity Etc › Why Does Jesus Convert Muslims To Christianity And Not Christians To Islam ? by truthman2012(op): 4:55pm On May 13, 2016

Testimonies abound of Muslims who had direct contact with Jesus and some in dreams. On such occasions Jesus directed them to Christianity and they became born again.

We have heard of people Jesus spoke to even in Mecca during Islamic pilgrimage and they returned home confessing Jesus Christ.

We have not had a situation where Jesus appeared to a Christian and directed him/her to Islam.

The question therefore is: if Islam is also from God, why would Jesus take the elect away from it?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Fraternity With Islam by truthman2012(op): 4:25pm On May 13, 2016

Demmzy15:
Why are you lying? They're still fighting in Ireland, no Sunni and Shia are fighting. We have Sunni and Shia living in peace in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Yemen, Nigeria, etc.

Provide proofs for your assertions.

Sunnis and Shiite are fighting till today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/01/22/why-sunnis-and-shias-are-fighting-explained-in-two-minutes/

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Fraternity With Islam by truthman2012(op): 9:20am On May 13, 2016

Demmzy15:
Yes this cells killed 8 million people when they fought against each other for supremacy, that's very ironic!

They have realized their mistakes and have stopped fighting but what do you say about the Shi'a and Shiite killing one another right from the immediate death of Muhammad till date ? Do they not believe in the same Allah ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Fraternity With Islam by truthman2012(op): 10:49pm On May 12, 2016

johnydon22:
Yeah two different faiths cannot come from the same God but 33,000 different christian sects of varying faiths can come from the same God, you are outrightly hypocritic, judgemental and picky.

All Christian sects believe in the same God, Yahweh.

Yes, two different opposing religions cannot come from the same God. The God of Islam hates the Jews and the Christians to the extent that he commanded Muhammad to kill them. Were Allah the same as Yahweh, would he command the the killing of His own people?

You also are judgemental going by your statement. But wait a minute: what is your business with any God as an atheist ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Fraternity With Islam by truthman2012(op): 9:29pm On May 12, 2016

Rilwayne001:
You are always lying. Lord knows maybe you are a fraudster in real life.

Can you provide a source for that cathchism? I found a different thing here http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p2.htm

This is the source:

The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day (Catechism, page 841)

https://carm.org/catholic-catechisms-view-muslim-god-wrong

Christianity Etc › Re: Top 14 Ridiculous Muslim Statements by truthman2012(m): 7:21pm On May 09, 2016

ypeace:
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Muslims are not followers of statements of other muslims because Muslims just like other humans are prone to mistakes. They follow the Qur'an and authentic Sunnah,

Even the Quran you follow is full of mistakes.

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Fraternity With Islam by truthman2012(op): 7:12pm On May 09, 2016*

Rilwayne001:
You are always lying. Lord knows maybe you are a fraudster in real life.

Can you provide a source for that cathchism? I found a different thing here http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p2.htm

Nonsense as usual !!!

Are you blind and couldn't see pope's picture up there kissing the Quran?

Is that your link talking about Catechism, page 841 as stated in the OP?

You are an addicted liar. Smh !!!

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Fraternity With Islam by truthman2012(op): 6:21pm On May 09, 2016

The Pope accepted and kiss the Quran, but did the muslims do the same for their Bible ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Fraternity With Islam by truthman2012(op): 5:02pm On May 09, 2016

Flexherbal:
Some of these things are better left unimagined.

Na wa o !

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