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scarletpearl:
stop arguing,love one another and live in peace

oglalasioux:
I always enjoy arguments between Muslims and Christians. It usually lay bare their confusion.

stonemasonn:
Well psychologically, when you're faithfully married to a woman 25 years older than you for over 2 decades and she dies and you are left with so much power and wealth; what will u do??

mustymatic:
The First Commandment is that God is One
The Bible does not support the Christian belief in
trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus
(pbuh) as to which was the first commandment
of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated
what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:
"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."
This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:
"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."
[The Bible, Mark 12:29]
It is striking that the basic teachings of the
Church such as Trinity and vicarious atonement
find no mention in the Bible. In fact, various
verses of the Bible point to Jesus’ (pbuh) actual
mission, which was to fulfill the law revealed to
Prophet Moses (pbuh). Indeed Jesus (pbuh)
rejected any suggestions that attributed divinity to
him, and explained his miracles as the power of
the One True God.
Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of
monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets
of Almighty God.
NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from
the King James Version.
III) Concept of God in Old Testament:
1. God is One
The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy
contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):
"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad".
It is a Hebrew quotation which means:
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord"
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4]
2. Unity of God in the Book of Isaiah
The following verses are from the Book of Isaiah:
(i) "I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is
no saviour."
[The Bible, Isaiah 43:11]
(ii) "I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no
God besides me."
[The Bible, Isaiah 45:5]
(iii) "I am God, and there is none else; I am God,
and there is none like me."
[The Bible, Isaiah 46:9]
3. Old Testament condemns idol worship
(i) Old Testament condemns idol worship in the
following verses:
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven
image, or any likeness of anything that is in
heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or
that is in the water under the earth:"
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor
serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous
God."
[The Bible, Exodus 20:3-5]
(ii) A similar message is repeated in the book of
Deuteronomy:
"Thou shalt have none other gods before me."
"Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or
any likeness of anything that is in heaven above,
or that in the earth beneath, or that is in the
water beneath the earth."
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor
serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous
God."
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 5:7-9]

yazach:
https://www.nairaland.com/2930929/pastor-raped-teenage-girl-rivers

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annunaki2:
Mohammed was a stark ignorant illiterate, thus his confusing trinity for polytheist.

meixili:
Salamalikum shalom peace

Is there any proof the Bible hasn't had additions , deletions , altering , or corruption?



Please stay on topic no derailing.


Thank you kindly

true2god:
This is what we call hate preaching by your prophet mohammed:

Quran 9:29, Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture (christiams and jews) - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

truthmans2012:
It is the Bible that enjoins the Christians to turn the other cheek, the quran permits muslims to retaliate. Am afraid, by the time you are put under pressure, will you not throw away the peace you are preaching islamically?

nasiayam:
-1 failure to turn other cheek

Demmzy15:
Pathetic old loser, in the coming days I'll open a thread concerning your bible. Let's see if you can defend it.

nasiayam:
-1

Demmzy15:
Jazaka Allaah kayran Ya Ikwaan, please don't be lenient with this people, they'll just take you for granted!

nasiayam:
-1 for hate preaching.

yazach:


I need someone to help me laugh

pastor impregnate 7 women

pastor slept with married wife

pastor defile 6 years old girl

pastor...........

Newnas:
Kiriyos people are so bad mouthed people. You people can't restrain your evil tongues from Solomon why should I expect you to be better to the Muhammad (alyhissolaat wassalaam)?!

Solomon is a prophet of Allah, your Bible is an evil book written by that bad mouthed man called paul, no wonder you all are also super-duper bad-mouthed!

habicab:
Welcome Truthmans2012, you are here as usual... I'm sure you have a copy of the Qur'an...kindly read and digest the 112th chapter of the Qur'an for your information. That is simply the touchstone of theology.

Also from the several posts of yours that I have often come across, it's obvious that you are having a problem knowing the meaning of Allah. If that's true, you should try to humble yourself and ask those who have the knowledge before castigating mindlessly. You never can tell, you might be insulting the Father who has sent Jesus Christ of Nazareth without even perceiving it.

habicab:
Welcome Truthmans2012, you are here as usual... I'm sure you have a copy of the Qur'an...kindly read and digest the 112th chapter of the Qur'an for your information. That is simply the touchstone of theology.

Also from the several posts of yours that I have often come across, it's obvious that you are having a problem knowing the meaning of Allah. If that's true, you should try to humble yourself and ask those who have the knowledge before castigating mindlessly. You never can tell, you might be insulting the Father who has sent Jesus Christ of Nazareth without even perceiving it.

true2god:
It is a miracle that muslims do not see mohammed as a criminal, always unbelievable!

unphilaz:
Hello its not a debate par se but an avenue to show that Jesus Christ is not just Man(Son of Man), Prophet but Son of God

ifenes:
Why can't christians accept Islam? What if you are all heading to the wrong heaven?

Jesuismoi:
Satan has blinded thier eyes to believe a lie.

Dont blame them. They are spiritually in the dark.

plappville:
Ishmael Cursed?

The Angel of God gives a pronouncement about the child in Hagars womb.

(Genesis 16:10-12 ) 10 “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”


11 “You will give birth to a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the Lord has hear of your misery.”


12 “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

Did God cursed Ishmael Seeing what is happening today. You will conclude that The so-called Arab people are cursed through Ishmael they kill others and also kill themselves. People hate them because they hate others. They like violence. Thier children live and grow up in a violent environment. They see nothing wrong in it. What exactly is this statement from God . Curse or blessing?

malvisguy212:
if you are implying that this quranic verse talk about the bible being corrupted, then why will allah ask the Jews to judge with a corrupted book ? By the way are you hockeyoiler ? You behave like him, you don't adress post.

meixili:
Brother greetings of peace

Respectively I to the best of my ability answered every question using both books without so much as asking a question back.

Your next step in your quest for knowledge would be too look for scholars of the highest immenence on both sides.

Bon chance !

Jesuismoi:
Truthman is out again...keep it up.

Expose them. More soul will be saved.

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees several times.

Its a even sin to be afraid to speak out the truth.

If everyone keeps quite, then Islam will continue to

condemn more souls to eternal condemnation.

meixili:
Let us see what Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said regarding the validity and the reliability of the Bible:

Narrated AbuNamlah al-Ansari: "When he was sitting with the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and a Jew was also with him, a funeral passed by him. He (the Jew) asked (Him): Muhammad, does this funeral speak? The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Allah has more knowledge. The Jew said: It speaks.

The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Whatever the people of the Book [Jews and Christians] tell you, do not verify them, nor falsify them, but say: We believe in Allah and His Apostle. If it is false, do not confirm it, and if it is right, do not falsify it. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Knowledge (Kitab Al-Ilm), Book 25, Number 3637)"

The following two Sayings of our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him were sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:

Narrated Ubaidullah: "Ibn 'Abbas said, 'Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Quran) which has been revealed to Allah's Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 461)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: "The people of the Book used to read the Torah in Hebrew and then explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. Allah's Apostle said (to the Muslims). 'Do not believe the people of the Book, nor disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever is revealed to us, and whatever is revealed to you.' ' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 460)"

As we clearly see in the above Sayings of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him, the source that the Jews and Christians use (i.e. the Bible or any other religious source such as their Popes', Rabbis or other religious people's verdicts) must be ignored because it is not reliable. As we've seen in the above introduction, the man-made scribes (laws) had corrupted the Bible and turned it "into a lie" (Jeremiah 8:8

According to Islam, Allah Almighty (GOD Almighty) in the Bible promised those who try to tamper His Words in the Bible to face hell fire, because He knew that it was going to happen. He gave the people of the book (Jews and Christians) a chance/test and they simply blew it!. Today, there is no one Bible!. The number of Books/Gospels in the Roman Catholics Bible for instance is different from the King James Version Bible, which is different in the number of Books/Gospels from the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible, which is different in the number of Books/Gospels from the Mormon's Bible, etc... Look at Noble Verse 5:13 from the Noble Quran: "But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them (Jews and Christians) and made their hearts hard; they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others)." Israel, when it lost Allah Almighty's grace, began to sin against truth and religion in three ways: (1) they began to misuse Scripture itself, by either taking words out of their right meaning, or applying them to things for which they were never meant; (2) in doing so, they conveniently forgot a part of the Message and purpose of Allah; and (3) they invented new deceits to support the old ones.

Let us look at Noble Verse 5:41 "O Apostle! let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, 'If ye are given this, take it, but if not, beware!' If any one's trial is intended by God, thou hast no authority in the least for him against God. For such - it is not God's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment."

Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran on the other hand, did promise that He will personally guard the Noble Quran from corruption. He never promised hell fire to anyone who tries to tamper His words in the Noble Quran. He will guard it Himself; "We (Allah) have, without a doubt, sent down the Message (The Quran); and We (Allah) will assuredly Guard it [from corruption]. (The Noble Quran, 15:9)." Today we have only one Arabic Noble Quran.

yazach:
Is the op not cutting hi own foot

how could "mr marry one wife" accuse "Mr Marry four wives" of sexually inactive.

Is it not stupid of op to open this thread