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najib632:
please i will like you to stop thinking that Allah is another diety apart from God. Allah is the arabic word for God, and the issue about the bible has not been changed is crap look around how many bibles exist today and every year the bible is modified. The bible can never be compared to the Qur'an. Look at the unintelligent way the bible said the world was created no scientist belives but all of the agree with Islamic version, the Quran talks about the formation of an embryo in a very authentic form no doctor can argue with it the Qur'an talked clearly about the expansion of the universe something that was discovered not so long ago. If the holy war never happened Europeans wont know what is science. Even algebra was formed from the Qur'an if you doubt any oof these things I have stated ask google. Allah guides whom he wills

mustymatic:
There are authentic Hadiths that clearly show that
Wurud is referring to the passing over the path, which is erected over the Hellfire – may Allaah Almighty protect us from it. People will go across it, and their speed will be according to their deeds, a fact that we learn from Hadiths

mustymatic:
And you want your posts to be responded to next time... aiii

truthman2012:
Al-taqquiyah expert !!!

How long will it take you respond?

Blatant Liar like Muhammad and his quran.

annunaki2:
The sooner you get it into your head that the quoran is not from God but it's just a collection of sayings concocted by mohamed and attributed to God to deceive his followers into believing he is a prophet of God. A close and objective study of the quoran will tell you it's full of errors, contradictions, inconsistencies and outright lies with zero beneficial value to mankind. The quoran is all the evidence you need to know that both islam and mohamed are frauds.

mustymatic:
smh

The aim of the verse is merely to repudiate the illusion cherished by the Jews that, by virtue of their being Jews, they have a monopoly of salvation. They had long entertained the notion that a special and exclusive relationship existed between them and God. They thought, therefore, that all who belonged to their group were predestined to salvation regardless of their beliefs and actions,. whereas all non-Jews were predestined to serve as fodder for hell-fire.
To clarify this misgiving the Jews are told that what really matters in the sight of God is true faith and good deeds rather than formal affiliation with a certain religious community. Whoever has true faith and good deeds to his credit is bound to receive his reward, since God will judge people on the basis of merit rather than on the grounds that a man's name happens to be listed in the world as a member of one religious community or the other.

Visitor700

The jews didn't persecute him but they made several attempts to kill him

mustymatic:
Can you tell us in what way modern christians follow jesus....by worshiping him? did he worship himself? or better did he ask you to?
that is a misconception even among Christians. some will tell you he is god, others will say he has a god, and some will tell you he is one of the three gods...And then...they are called christians

plappville:
Islam promotes terrorism.

DeathStroke007:
Like I always tell you, you are a fool..



Tell me where Jesus told you that you can pray anywhere...

Keenysbojan:
If a Muslim reader is confused at this juncture, he has enough reasons to be. But we do not intend to weary anybody with this confusion. So, let us come down and agree on one point and then proceed. Some enlightened Muslims believe that it would be more reasonable to regard the book as the written form of the verbal message given to Muhammad, and so a revelation. Reading through the comments of most Islamic scholars who translated the Quran, one easily sees that apart from their stereotypical romanticism, they too are not sure of the authorship of the book. All they can say is that it is the book of Allah.

A careful student who reads it either in the Arabic or in translations will see that apart from direct quotes from reported events, some parts of the narratives are in the first person plural, while some are in the third person and then first person singular, and so on. There are places where Allah is being addressed by the writer. The writer seems to forget he should maintain the narrative as coming from Allah and suddenly changes the narrative. For example, when the speaker-writer says: " I swear by Allah that they will not believe....", one wonders who is speaking - Allah or a writer? Or how could these statements have existed in heaven in a book before creation?

Some historians have attempted to prove that the Quran was written neither by Muhammad nor even during his lifetime. They say Muhammad was, in fact, illiterate. According to then, the book we call the Quran today is a product of some zealots of Islam under supervision of a caliph, who, after the death of their master felt they must have a sacred book just as Christians and the Jews for their religion; and so they tried to recollect what their leader was preaching before his death. Part of it is said to be from the parchment written and kept before the death of the prophet. According to the Hadith, some of the fragments were collected from "tablets of stone,ribs of palm branches,camels' shoulder-blades and ribs, pieces of board, and the breasts of men - (that is from men's memory)".

The first attempt of compilation is said to have been made by Muhammad's daughter, Fatima, who had to contest some of the facts with some followers of her father since there were different versions being recited by the people. Muhammad's wife, Hafsa, also helped in the compilation. The final work, however, is credited to Zaid ibn Thabit, whom some believe as merely the editor.

Because of the predominant use of the first person plural and singular narratives, we will accept for now that there was being from whom Muhammad was receiving his messages, and this being is called 'Allah' in Arabic; and that even if the book was written by the followers after his death, it is not impossible to remember some of the words of Muhammad when he was being inspired to recite the Quran

This position is necessary to establish our logic. If we accept the Quran as divinely inspired by some being, we should not be afraid to identify the being. If we say from the outset that there was no supernatural being speaking to Muhammad or at least giving him the inspiration to say what he was quoted as saying, we would have no choice than to dismiss the whole bunch of the Quran as a fraud and regard Muhammad as one of the most successful liars and deceivers the world has ever see . But that is not the case because throughout the pages of the Quran, Allah is quoted exhaustively as one speaking, even in the first person plural, signifying a dignified or honorific personality or deity.

So, we take a stand: that there was an Allah talking to or inspiring Muhammad. The issue we face here, then, is whether or not the Allah from whose angel Muhammad was receiving his messages is the same Jehovah of the Bible.

We cannot impose an opinion. There are sufficient facts in this book for a sincere reader to determine his or her own conclusion. But it is important for the Muslim reader to be very honest with himself and read the book through because this is a serious matter that has an eternal consequence for his soul. This is the greatest question you will find an answer to...

TILL NEXT WEEK SUNDAY, GOD BLESS YOU ALL AS YOU PATIENTLY READ THIS THREAD...

https://www.nairaland.com/2934119/allah-forward-preface/1#42961274

Annunaki:
@true2god thanx for this very enlightening post. It clearly explains the controversy behind mohamed's death and any unbiased mind with common sense will realise that the Shia side of the story is the one most likely to be true as there are a lot of loop holes in aisha's account of the story.

CC: Truthman2012 this should interest you.

true2god:
@ truthman2012, long time. It is difficult to trust the narrations of Aisha completely. If all is well, there is no way Aisha and Fatimah will became mortal enemies as soon as Mohammed died. Note that Fatimah did not believe the narrations of Aisha concerning the cause of the death of her father.

If you consider the greatest benefactors of Mohammed's death, it was not his direct bloodlines but his in-laws. So you join the pieces together, you will get what I'm talking about. Recall that Mohammad did not hand over the mantle of leadership to anyone before he died, Abu Bakr did not even consult Fatima before he declared himself a khalifa.

crusadistic:
the shias are hardly considered Muslims.They are known for creating false stories to vilify His(SAW) wives and companions.that of Aisha(RA) poisoning Him is baseless.I can't tell if this is what majority of them believe thou.As for him dying as a result of the jewish woman's poison; there is no reason to believe this as He(SAW) died four years later and He(SAW) was healthy through that period,unless it was Allah's wish to make him(SAW) die a matyr through some miracle.

DeathStroke007:
Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if you be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.



gal.5:2

AlMuflihah:
Finally someone with brain. Thank you for the interpretation of the yoruba proverb, now be sincere with yourself did your English translation convey the same in depth meaning as the real proverb in yoruba and the same wordings. And besides I never said somebody cannot understand Arabic perfectly, I only asserted that before you rely 100% on some other person's interpretation of Arabic texts, you must first research into the verses in its original Arabic, because the person who translated it might have committed a blunder in his interpretation( a case study is the different contradictory versions of the English translation of the bible that exists) hence before you could feel capable of even saying anything on the Qur'an and hadith, you MUST learn the language and be open minded for you might be mistaken of choices of words sometimes. For instance imagine your Moshay quoting verse 168 in a chapter with 71 verses imagine display of immense ignorance.
Finally on Al-Baghdadiy of ISIL, I will only touch on him a little as his delusions are not what this thread is about, you could open a thread on him and you would see what Muslim Scholars say on him. But as a point of benefit, he understands the sacred texts but chose to follow his desires on their meanings just like the Ignorant Moshay lied about knowing what he never researched.

AlMuflihah:
Thank God that at least you attempted to learn a foreign language. If you are sincere with yourself and not as much of a liar as G.J.O Moshay you will understand how difficult and easily misinterpreted some words get and how many parables loss meanings when translated to another language. And besides ask any linguist he will tell u how deficient the English language is in interpreting Arabic, just like trying to use English to interprete Hausa, I bet you will most likely lose all the beauty of the Language. And note eastern languages are different from western languages in quality and sweetness, I say this because I learnt both. So before you start quoting verses distorted to English by someone who is looking for misguidance or someone still learning Arabic, go first and learn the language then you can talk about the verse. Before then just keep mute because those English translations just make you guys look like ignorant rain-drenched he-goats.

And please help me translate this yoruba proverb to English without distorting the original meaning and words...
'omo osan lon ko ponpo ba iya e'...

Go back and learn Arabic and feel the beauty of eloquence not found in any other language...

hammedah001:
You are a stupid fool, where in the quran was it stated that the Muhammed was poised

truthman2012:
You are right bro.

To be good muslims, allahh must have tampered with their brains. This was exactly what happened to Muhammad:

Quran 87:6-7] By degrees shall We teach thee to declare (the Message), so thou shalt not forget,
EXCEPT as Allah wills: For He knoweth what is manifest.

Muhammad's memory was constantly being tampered with to forget what had already been revealed to him. Why? What was wrong with the revelations he was made to forget? It shows the quran is spiritual manipulations.

ayodeji481:
Find the true meaning of your religion before you study another one.

annunaki2:
The quoran is not only full of contradictions, the translators (like their deceptive allaah) also twisted meanings of words in their various translations to water down the evil nature of the quoran to deceive kaffirs into believing islam is a religion that can be tolerated.

nasiayam:
Still hate preaching hate
-1 for giving non radicalized Christians a bad name

nasiayam:
Still preaching hate not love
-2

nasiayam:
-2 spreading and preaching hate , not cool. Where did you learn this. You give non militant christians a bad name

AlMuflihah:
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@ meixili... Assalam alayka bro, it's not befitting for someone who believes in Allah and the last day to refer to someone who desecrate Allah and his signs as brother, worse still wish him peace. I know you a Muslim with sincerity at heart, but it's very prohibited in Islam. barakallahu fika

carinmom:
But its in your religious book nau, or am i lying

crusadistic:
I say you and your likers are really daft humans.

Bakrabas:
What about that picture truthman2012