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I really don't understand Nigerian guys... What is all this?

You don't owe any girl that is not family money... If she can't stay with you except you give her money, let her go.. Simple. The one that really likes you will stay.

Una matter don tire me. And I don't pity you at all. She didn't put a gun to your head, did she?

Nice...

Can someone who understands this space explain this better? And what does a token sales round mean?

Hintona:
You see what I always say, when looking for a girlfriend or wife a woman's social status will be the last thing on a man's mind if it's even on his mind sef.

The posts above me are concrete evidence. Except if they modify it of course.

The topic says girlfriend and most answers probably reflect that. I believe men think deeper when it is time to get married.

Interesting

meobizy:
I don't understand why some people can't control their anger. If you're older than 19 years of age and still resort to physical violence to resolve issues then you deserve a few nights in detention. Violence should come as the last option when peace talks fail.

Too much sense expressed in a few words. I really don't understand as well. Looks like thinking gets totally disabled once people get angry..

Hintona:
Men don't really care about the social status of a woman. They just want beautiful and young women.

That's in the movies...

Look around.. What do you see?

Am I in the jokes section??

Hold on... Let me check so I can laugh appropriately.

We need a turnaround in this country.

2buffagain:
See babe, Divorce court is designed by the state to penalize whoever was dumb enough to marry a bum (in the age of feminism yada yada where they expect all women to also be financially productive and to NOT be bums).
And the state is happy to do this because, if they don't, then that bum will be coming for them for help i.e social security programs.
They'd rather you, the productive but stupid member of society, be the one to provide the social security benefits for your mistake of yoking yourself unequally with a bum .

Typically, due to the female tendency of hypergamy, the bum in marriages is 90% or higher likely to be a female.
If leaving it to the state, The state could care less if this bum cheats. They don't give a damn about your hurt feelings. They just don't want to be the one paying for your bum ex-spouse.

the construction of the above sentences is on point.. E be like music...

Okay o.

What about Flour Mills, or you guys think it is purely a beef matter??

ShadowCracker:
wow, I just read about it, guess I was misinformed .
I didn't know it wasn't female bias like there could be a scenario whereby a man would be the one taking half of the woman's fortune in the divorce.
It's fair enough isn't it , but why are they now making it seem as if it only happens to men and never to women.

The key thing is to ensure your partner, has a work, business, or investment anything to fall back on in case things go south .

In many cases, men earn higher. That's why there's usually the outcry, but yeah, the higher earning spouse gets to split. E.g., Adele.

Let me ask a question, if she was the one in his position (in the video), do you think she would have gone into the marriage without asking him to sign a prenup? Just a question, I'm not making any conclusions.

I don't like when people get sentimental.. You can't blackmail the guy into stuff mehn..

Sign and move on. People change, things happen. You really do not have no control over another person's will.

And who says she cannot end up richer than the guy.

Interestingly, I think he really likes her and will treat her well. His insistence on being rational is a good sign in my view.

Nice one.

Some of us find it difficult to regurgitate information. We must make it our own before we can do anything about it. Also, I think it helped that the lecturers noticed your approach and encouraged you to do something which then helped you to see your potential and to believe in yourself. Rationally, this motivated you to work harder, have more fun studying (in addition to the enabling environment), and thus do better as a student.

One of my issues with higher education in Nigeria is the ridiculous sense of pride lecturers have when a course is so hard for students to pass. If students are not passing well, it may be an indictment on you as a lecturer.

I don't know how to chase ladies. If I get the sense that the feeling is not very mutual, that's the end of the matter.. Even if I really like her, I will eventually get over her; I don't do one-sided affection.

Recently, I decided to stop "approaching" ladies. Why? I feel the right person will gravitate towards me somehow. I think I can only make an exception if the "light" is EXTREMELY verdant.

When I was much younger (secondary school, Uni, and a little afterwards), I was quite shy so I never used to approach or try to woo ladies; however, somehow, my crushes usually gravitate towards me after some time. I usually did not follow through though.
Later on, I decided to start approaching girls cos it seemed like that was the normal thing to do (probably because many guys do that or are expected to). However, I have come to realise that it creates an imbalance that does not work for me. Therefore, I think it is better to revert to my previous style and let the lady try to position herself or let circumstances do that. I get the best interaction when I don't initiate, and I also don't have to stress myself trying to get someone to like me. Takes too much energy.

Enjoying the new vibe a lot more. So much better than eyeing fine girl afer fine girl because...... fine girl no dey finish o. It is well..

This matter ehn

I don't know what's happening here but Seun should be careful so the front page doesn't turn into a spot for media wars and junk journalism.

Wanted to close down the plantation?? Is Lafiagi a Free Trade Zone or the facility an export only facility?? Does the export-only facility have a plantation?? Did this OP really follow the developments or what on earth informed this apology of a post??

I'm not in support of anyone but pictures don't tell us anything. There is a Sugar Masterplan, show us evidence of progress (the authorities do assessments from time to time)...

The responses are shocking.

HOW CAN YOU SAY SOMEONE IS BORN AGAIN AND YET NEEDS DELIVERANCE.. From what? Demons??

A Believer CANNOT be possessed. Do you even know what being Born Again means?

Col 1:12-14 KJV 12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Is it not clear that the Believer is in the Kingdom of God? And that he has been delivered from the power of darkness? Isn't the Believer the temple of God? How can the devil possess God's dwelling place?? God FORBID!!!

The Word of God is final authority. Not people's opinions or experiences.

If you mean delivered from wicked men, situations, etc, I would understand. But from demons, Nah.. A Believer is far above the devil and all his works. A Believer sits in authority over the devil and his cohorts.

averageguy:
I think the big one a lot of people reference is 1 Tim. 5:8

I am still awaiting her response but on this passage. It has been heavily abused. That's what happens when people read their thoughts/culture into the Bible.

Every chapter must be read in context. In that chapter, from verse 3, Apostle Paul begins to talk about widows, gives some instructions, describes who a widow indeed is etc, then in verse 8, while still speaking on widows, he says "1Ti 5:8 KJV But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."

So, it is either that he was referring to widows only (who are female) or he was referring to anyone (male or female) because there is no point referring to only men as he was speaking about what widows should do.

Evidently, it looks like it was the latter, he was speaking to widows, but in the process says "...if any provide not.." and continues with the singular pronoun "he", which of course refers to the collective "any". That passage refers to anyone, male or female. In case anyone disagrees, remember that often (if not always), the male pronoun is used to refer to the collective in the Bible. I don't think I've ever come across "he/she" or a female pronoun used for a collective that includes male and female.

See an example below of Jesus speaking to the woman at the well..

Joh 4:13-14 KJV 13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

As a female, it is your responsibility to provide for your home, as it is the responsibility of the male as well.

averageguy:
While I personally believe in working as a unit and the wife being able to help the husband in all areas, I find it somewhat ironic that men have issues with a lady possibly refusing to help financially, even though the men hardly help with household chores, cooking, and taking care of kids.

If you believe your wife should be splitting financial responsibilities, wouldn't it makes sense that you also split the household responsibilities down the middle?

Sir, all these are cultural constructs. I think this matter is not about splitting down the middle. I saw a post on Twitter the other day, that marriage isn't even 50/50, it is 100/100. However, many times, it may even seem like its 90/10 or 10/90, but that should not be a problem, except it is permanently so for no good reason.

Money, chores etc are things necessary within the family. These things should be discussed practically and not from a gender roles perspective. Nothing says men shouldn't do chores. In fact, in many homes, men run around to resolve all kinds of issues but notice how that never gets talked about. And men should love and cherish their wives, not make their lives miserable through incessant chores.

Lastly, that one party does chores does not mean he/she cannot contribute financially, and vice versa. It is a family after all. I really don't get it, why get married if you want to keep your own stuff to yourself? If you want to do that, then draw up a contract or reach an agreement ahead on how you want to split these things. But it seems many don't bother to have such conversations.

Victoria938:
I'm not doubting you sweet heart. Men are meant to be the providers according to the scripture and nature. But the way our economy is going now, salary remaining stagnant while there's inflation.

my dear, women are no longer persuaded to contribute any longer, majority are now seeing the need to. It is no longer optional but a necessity. If you are still going into the marriage with the mentality that my hubby is the head of the family and he owns all the responsibility, you may end up being frustrated, that's what leads most women to nagging. when you discover that the money he brings to the table ain't adequate enough.... He won't kill himself na. He can only try his best..... No matter how little, pls try to have something doing in other to contribute. All hands ought to be on the deck for the success of the family. Not necessarily about house rent or tuition fee, but there is value and respect when you replaced a finish item than always waiting for your husband even when little thing as match stick ain't in the house. I pray God blesses every woman the resources to partake in her family's upkeep.

Just curious. Which scripture?

PrimadonnaO:
The caption is misleading, and I'm sure most people commenting on page 1 and bashing the lady didn't read the whole writeup.

Most women know that when the chips are down, she'll pay rent, she'll pay children's school fees, etc. But I think what I understood from the post is that she's worried that he's already making plans before hand to depend on her contribution towards rent.

I don't think opinions will change after reading through the writeup. Summarily, as is quite common in this part of the world, she seems to believe that the man is "the" provider, and should solely/primarily bear the financial responsibility of the home.

Interestingly, Nigerian men are increasingly revolting against this expectation, in and out of marriage. It seems "the times they are a-changing".

I will soon be going o... (3x)
I think it's time to go home.... or do you want me to stay (jokingly)..

Or just be straightforward and say "do you mind if I stay over?"

Last last you go receive the same answer.

I'm a guy BTW..

GboyegaD:
Quality is very important. They destroyed elementary education and I hope this doesn't happen to tertiary education.

Who destroyed elementary education?? And how?

MOBBDEEP:
Evolving world economies didn't get to where they are today by cutting corners. Case in point is Malaysia.
BIP & SMP are laudable schemes which are part-measures
to get out of economic doldrum e.g employment opportunities, more forex earnings, local earnings etc
BUA is taking the easy way out, an exercise that is detrimental to good of all
How does an individual go such a long way out of selfishness, self-centredness & opportunism towards personal aggrandizement without any modicum of integrity!?
BUA flawed greatly here Bro
Always out to quickly make cheap revenues from the nation's vulnerability!
Nonsense

I think the government should have found a way to link anything sugar to the SMP..
Policy harmonisation. That way, it may be a win win.. Just the way they've done with import quotas.

If you want to do export-only, show us what you've done on the BIP..

Honestly. I sometimes feel the first page of any thread should be screened for sensible comments.. Just sentiments everywhere.. Na wa.
. I don tire for Nigerians

If you can't read and comprehend the article, please don't post ignorantly.

dokitaeleran:
Are we producing enough raw material to be self sufficient? In what way will BUA's sugar refinery affect Dangote and Flour Mill??

No we are not YET producing enough raw material to be self-sufficient, but that's the target.

BUA is a part of the Sugar Masterplan. With this new refinery, they have found a way to expand their operations without any incremental contribution to backward integration efforts. Just imagine that the other companies follows suit, before you know what's happening, the Masterplan would die off. Not saying the Masterplan is the best plan, but at least, they all agreed to and if it needs to be changed, then that should be done.

Also, it seems under the license that allows BUA to be in the Free Trade Zone, they can sell refined products from the factory in the domestic market if domestic prices are arbitrarily high. That may sound good for sugar consumers as it may put a restriction on the prices Dangote and FMN can charge. However, that means you have someone who is putting relatively little effort into the Masterplan curtailing the revenues of those who are putting in more effort.

Further to the last point, commodity prices can be very volatile, and in times when prices plummet, high cost producers can suffer. Just for the sake of explaining, let's say right now, raw sugar costs N10 in the global market (plus shipping and all) and costs N8 to produce domestically. If global prices fall to N5, domestic cost will likely remain at N8 (all other things being equal) cos production costs may have little or no correlation with sugar prices. On the other hand, the person who imports can reduce his price by N5 without feeling a pinch. Imagine what that does to domestic producers if such comes into the market.
This is just one side of the story though, the other side is that domestic producers, because they enjoy so much protection, can raise prices to absurd levels if they are allowed to, as long as it continues to lead to higher revenues.

Good article that provides a clear counterbalance to the other article on the frontpage vilifying Flour Mill and Dangote for opposing BUA's new refinery.

But again, trust most to jump to conclusions without reading through..

I think Dangote needs to find a means of improving his image in the Nigerian market. Methinks part of the challenge is that his enterprises are named after him, so it is almost impossible for them to have independent identities. While there are benefits to being the eponym of such dominant enterprises, it also has its disadvantages, especially in a nation that's deeply divided.

Na wa o. Except I missed it, I can't find one well thought out response to the original post. Just sentiments.

Nigeria does not grow enough sugar to meet demand. Therefore, most of the raw sugar input used by local refiners is imported.

A Sugar Masterplan was established so that we can develop domestic capacity to grow sugar instead of just importing. Now each of those three main refiners, Dangote, FlourMill and BUA, have a level of backward integration (sugar farming) they must reach and as they do, they are also given import quotas. If you meet your targets, you will likely get more room to import to make up what you have produced domesitcally. If you don't meet your targets, your import quota might be reduced. This is to encourage backward integration so that over time, we become self-sufficient WRT sugar.

According to the write-up, BUA's new refinery is primarily for exports; it's located in a free trade zone. So, it will primarily be importing raw sugar, refining and exporting. The concern noted by the industry expert is that due to its license from NEPZA, BUA can turnaround and sell it's product domestically if domestic prices are arbitrarily high (at this point, don't forget that the refinery will solely be using imported raw sugar; and yes, they will pay duty (60%) and levy (10%) if they sell domestically).

While it is a good idea to have someone that can stabilise local prices, the other players think this might be detrimental to the sugar masterplan, especially since, according to them, BUA has not really done well on that front. There should be full commitment to the Sugar Masterplan and a refinery in Nigeria that fully imports raw sugar may not be a step in the right direction and depending on whom you ask, might not show commitment by that refiner.

In summary, we all are still trying to achieve the Sugar Masterplan (I.e. reach self sufficiency in domestic production of raw sugar) and here you are creating a refinery that will only use imported raw sugar, and it's not like you are even doing well with the Sugar Masterplan. Also, it may be difficult to monitor that this sugar you are producing is not being sold in the Nigerian market.

I am neither for or against Dangote and Flour Mills but I guess it's rational for them to have misgivings in this situation.

On the other hand, the government can find ways to ensure BUA is more committed to local production and that they don't sell products from the new refinery in the domestic market.. If they can, it would cap what price others can sell at.. Not really a bad thing but it seems a bit unfair to others who are putting in more backward integration efforts.

PoliteActivist:
Do you even know what strawman means. Just repeating what you heard.
How can we have discussion when you can't even be HONEST about what is there in clear black and white. How can you have discussion with such a person??

I have not in any way spoken about your comment on two "seemingly" contradictory creation stories. My focus has been on demonstrating that the creation of the woman was not an afterthought as God does not make mistakes.

However, you seem to think that I am just here to defend the Bible blindly.

God did intend to make male and female. There is no afterthought with God. For example, Jesus is said to be the Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world.

Lastly, and I guess this is what you are keen about, One passage in Genesis speaks to "how" and the rest speak to "what" He did. The new testament reiterates the fact that the woman is of the man. Evidently, there is no contradiction as to "how".

The fact that the woman is of the man does not contradict the creation of male and female, and vice versa. In fact, it provides more background.

I hope it is clear now.