₦airaland Forum

PoliteActivist:
Sir/Madam, you can be a believer without being a total fool. There are two different stories of creation in the bible. One is plausible, the other is not. Both cannot be true. That is a FACT. And no amount of discernment can change that FACT!

Straw man. I asked a question and you left that to attend to something else.

The point is, if you don't believe Christ, you CANNOT understand the bible.

Adios.

PoliteActivist:
You obviously haven't read the Adam/Eve story. God created Adam with a penis to be all by himself. Then he realized He made a mistake! That He should have created woman! Then the same God that created the entire universe by just His words now became a sculptor. He could not create Eve by just his words!
My friend discern the difference between human myth and God's logic

Sir/Madam, are you a believer? Just need to know first.

God did not make a mistake. God does not make mistakes.

As I said earlier, the revelation of God is progressive in the old testament. The old testament is a shadow of the reality. For example, God does not do evil. He has never and will never, but you see evil done attributed to God in the old testament.
Christ is the interpretation of the scriptures. You cannot fully understand unless you first know Christ and see Him through the scriptures.

And there are no myths in the Bible. There are however metaphors in certain places.

BLOODYSPERM:
Paul was filled with the anointing of the holy Spirit and operating above logic with divine wisdom which non-believers cannot deduce or comprehend

I wanted to respond but your responses have been perfect. The things of God are spiritually discerned.

PoliteActivist:
My friend go back and read again: there are two DIFFERENT creation stories in the bible. One says man and woman were created at same time (which is the only thing that makes sense). It says right there that He called them "man". Can u read?? So when it talks of man it means both man and woman!

GENESIS ONE:
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

GENESIS 5:
When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God.(C) 2 He created them(D) male and female(E) and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind”[a] when they were created.

I appreciate your attempt to explain that God had both male and female in mind from the beginning. God cannot be caught by surprise, since he knows all things. However, the knowledge of God in the Bible was progressive, hence why we see people in the old testament wrongly attribute certain things to God. However, in Christ we have God's perfect revelation. The New Testament explains and clarifies the old.

Yes, God created male and female and that was His intention at the beginning as evident in Genesis. So we are fine with that.

However Apostle Paul let's us know that:

1Co 11:8-9 KJV 8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. 9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

I don't think there is an argument here. Companionship is necessary for both; man wasn't intended to be alone and the woman was created for man. Both need companionship.

Lucrativress:
Eerrrmmmm yes

Lol.. Smh

Its rare but possible that two people of opposite sexes can be very close friends without romantic/sexual desire. It would usually require that both parties are not attracted to each other, for whatever reason.

In this case, we assume that because the lady looks attractive the guy is simping. However, the guy might have other far more attractive ladies available to him and she may even be the one trying to hang out with him.

But generally speaking, many male "besties" are zonal chairmen.

Lucrativress:
It still boils down to favouritism, cause they're gaining from it..
So it's okay for us to say,when it comes to Dangote,they're handicapped

Lol.. There's no winning this uhn..

Lucrativress:
When it comes to Nigeria's matter,there are some comparisons that are ironic
Who owns MTN,who is Dangote?
Just look at this refinery stuff,left to me,na Nigeria dey pay the entire money for that Refinery
Dangote is highly favored na,on a National level,MTN for where,no na..
Next time compare Dangote and Tinubu or another magnanimous economic Influencer,walahi na the real Influencers be this

You are missing the point. The point is that the Government is not really handicapped, they chose to be. I'll just leave it at that.

BluDesk:
So this is pure enterprise to you. Smh

Lol don't shake your head too much.

The business runs to make a profit, and you and I know that we usually cannot rely on businesses to do what would adversely affect their bottom line, even when if it is for the greater good (which is debatable).

My point is the government is the main culprit here, cos if it's not Dangote, someone else can just as easily be in that position.

Lucrativress:
Dangote is at the fore front and as it is,our governments are handicapped when it comes to him so it is okay to unleash our aggression on him

Lol @ handicapped. But they can fine MTN billions. Okay o.

BluDesk:
If the country were more Liberal, all of this won't exist. You can apply, conduct geological survey, if you discover limestone for example, you set up your plant, produce, visit the stock market, raise funds, scale up production

. But is this ever as open as this for new entrants where you have the oligarchs like Dangote?

Probably not. But facing Dangote is like cutting branches to kill a tree..

And don't forget, lobbyists exist everywhere (at least virtually everywhere).

The buck really stops with the government.

Lucrativress:
"The Game" laced with greed and corruption, it won't change the fact that he's leveraging on "the Game" and when it gets to the national level as it is now,then you know that man has the power of price stability which is meant to be with the Government.
Take it or leave it,Dangote is a huge part of the Government and as long as we won't see that as a problem, we will keep suffering.

Then shouldn't this agitation be directed at the government. If it was not Dangote, it would likely be someone else. That's just how it is.

Aconomist:
Sigh, you have to understand something called the demand curve. When prices are kept artificially high, demand will be at an artificially low level. This is why you need heavy competition in the industry. Cement is supposed to be a low margin industry where you sell massive volume to make a profit, not an industry where you produce below capacity and jack up prices.

Lol @ demand curve. I understand you, but that's one postulation as to why demand is low. As you would know, there are probably other factors responsible as well. Not saying price isn't.

This fight should probably be with the Government. They make the policies. And I'm sure they have their reasons - however sincere, dishonest, thoughtful or unreasonable those policies might be.

Aconomist:
EBITDA is the best way to get an apples to apples comparison between different companies. Dangote is not the only manufacturing company that invests in capital and property plant and equipment, so that doesn't justify the outrageous margin (which is around double the EBITDA margin of a Ferrari ). U.S. cement companies earn an average EBITDA margin of around 10%-12% compared to Dangote's 59%

link: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/USCR/u-s-concrete/ebitda-margin

Dangote is price gouging the market, this is an indisputable fact. He influenced the government (through bribery) to create scarcity by banning imports and allowing him to hoard limestone resources to prevent other companies from entering the market. According to Rabiu of BUA Group, the only way to fix it is to liberalize the industry. He state's quote:

"The price of cement, which presently sells for about N4,000 per bag, remains high in Nigeria because the few producers are not able to meet the country’s huge demand. Nigeria’s 200 million people make it about 130 kilograms per head. If you check, you will see that most countries in Africa are doing between 170 kilogrammes to 200 kilogrammes per head.

So, Nigeria is actually producing less than other countries in Africa, apart from maybe Niger Republic. So, that means that we do not have enough capacity

“Even though this cement policy is a good one, it must be done in such a way that a lot of players must come in and participate. There is no point in making a policy that only one, two, or three people are able to benefit from that policy,” he said, adding: “That does not make sense. I am benefiting from this policy, but I know it is a bad policy. So, whilst the policy is good, the way it is being administered is not good. You can’t have a policy that restricts so many people from participating, at the end of the day, you are just creating a monopoly

Read the full article for more information: https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/02/09/bua-advocates-liberalisation-of-cement-policy-to-crash-price/

Cement capacity utilisation in Nigeria is not high. I do not think it is accurate to say cement producers cannot meet demand. If I am correct, demand has not been growing rapidly in the past few years, and supply has been tracking demand closely. Even if a lot of demand is truly unmet (which I do not think is true), why aren't cement producers ramping up production/utilisation?

I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing to your position on Dangote. This is Nigeria and I must say that Government is a major major risk factor for any business operating here. While other cement producers may be complaining when policies do not favour them, I definitely think they like the wider margins they earn in this market.

On imports, there is the need to assess whether imports would be net positive for the economy or not. Banning imports of course is a form of support for domestic companies, therefore, we cannot just say imports should be allowed without a clear indication of its net impact.

The bottom line is that the Nigerian cement manufacturing industry is one where strong government support is central. Even if there was no Dangote, as long as the policies are there, and there are willing investors, I am not sure things would be much different.

Lastly, compare the margins of the different producers. Could they really have survived if Dangote had kept EBITDA margins much lower? Lafarge is just coming out of financial rut and all those small companies BUA consolidated would probably have died before he thought to acquire them.

Again, I am neither for or against here, just a discussion.

Three groups of posters...

Posters that did not read carefully.
Posters correcting the first category.
Posters of unrelated content.


Even without reading, it is reasonable to doubt that a pregnant woman would be allowed to fight.

CanadaOrBust:
Thanks for your discrete response. Will forward this to her

Okay. Thank you.

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SeaTrade:
I understand you,but next time avoid all these unnecessary act of heroism,especially when not necessary like in this case.
Many people don go because of things like this.
I still hate what the guy did to your wife and I so not support him.
If he was a cultist,you and your 2 navy friends would have been dead by now,90% chance.
The navy will only come and tumble the school afterwards,but who is dead is dead!!
Especially on matrix day that it's a known fact that cultist are always armed
Bros be careful,friendly advise.Too much testosterone in you man
It has happened before in UST,PH,same scenario I think 2018 or so..

I really don't know why so many posters are attacking you. People are just so sentimental. If the matter degenerates, before anyone knows who is who, blood may have flowed.. Navy can come later and scatter everywhere o, but that won't bring the dead back, and they may even be unable to apprehend those guys. This is Nigeria, if those guys are much more connected and/or wealthy, they may end up walking free..

Always avoid violence as much as you can, in fact, I would say except your life is threatened. There's no point, but Nigerians like to show they are "bigger" by inflicting some level of pain or harm.

P.S: I am not defending what the trespassing guy did, but OP could have handled it differently and still have gotten the same result.

BaeMercy:
Men love civilised ladies
Let's put it that way, OK?

Men don't like bad girls, men like naughty girls
No man will see a bad woman and marry her unless he wants to ruin his life

People do say bad girls marry faster than good girls
Ask why do marriages don't last this days like those days? because the bad girls are the ones who marry faster
You can't turn a bitch to a wife
A bad girl is there for the gain and when you can't provide anymore she goes back to the street then you men come online to cry that women are wicked
you better open your eyes and marry a naughty smart woman
Don't because of sex ruin your life
Ones an Olosho never retire
Marry such women, travel your mind won't be at rest because na sex dey run that kind of women
Be Wise!

On point.

Sixfeetbelle:
The problem here is that men want all ladies to be free and open with them, and that means, being ready and eager to have sex at the snap of their fingers. That's why some of you go the extra mile to use money to facilitate that process and thus can't seem to stand it when she's not a participant. But you all seem to forget one thing....

Being open/friendly is not equivalent to being cheap. I have met ladies who are friendly, open, and down to earth, but who have boundaries and make those boundaries clearly known while remaining very open minded. From my observation, guys are usually very enamored by such ladies.. There is even an ex-colleague coming to mind right now. Very friendly and attractive but if I hear say you see anything.. My first "love" was also like that.

On the other hand, you have ladies who are unfriendly, for whatever reason, and believe they need to put up a tough front (by the way, the ladies I referred to earlier can get tough when needed but even then, they maintain their openness and calm headedness unless the guy is just totally unreasonable)..
This category of ladies may discourage a lot of guys who don't have the confidence, thick skin or patience to push through.

And then there is the category of readily available ladies who shower lots of attention and are ready to do anything the guy wants to show their "love". Except for the very simple, many guys can see through them and most guys will believe that if she can do this with me, she can do it with someone else. And most guys wouldn't wants such. In some cases though, the man may just think well, there's no one that's perfect and go ahead to wife her, or he may realise that she's just like that cos she is so much in love.

Notwithstanding the above, a key thing to note is that a lady can fall into all 3 categories (at different points in time and/or with different people), and the category she falls into when interacting with a guy will play a role in how the guy perceives her and will likely inform his eventual decision.

9jaRealist:
If they didn’t actually kill anyone...
Their sentences may be commuted to a long jail term.

However, let’s not minimize their crimes...
It’s ARMED ROBBERY, regardless of what they stole.
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I'm not minimizing it, as ARMED robbery carries with it a significant threat to life.. However, I guess I just do not really like the idea of capital punishment especially when there was no life lost (this excludes when it is clear that the perpetrator had the intent and/or made the attempt to commit murder). A long sentence might be better, but, is that really better in Nigeria

Wow.. Sounds extreme to me... I hope they know to appeal and do so..

Whereas in the name of governance, some continue to mortgage the fortunes of present and unborn generations.

Romanoff:
It's this entitlement mentality that makes some men rape girls who come to visit them.

It's this entitlement mentality that makes some men spend on you and give you gifts cause they expect sex in return.

It's this same entitlement mentality that makes some men tell you they can't be in a relationship without sex.

It's this entitlement mentality that has made some girls Oloshos, exchanging sex for gifts and money.

It's this entitlement mentality that makes some men intimidated by independent women who don't need their money.

I rest my case.

Spot on

abbey621:
In this life as long as your conscience is clear nobody can guilt you! Even my very own siblings know that you can't just come to me and say bro dash me 1000 dollars, I'll be like for what? I'm going to grill you like Oputa panel but if you behave sensibly and bring forth good ideas to turn the money into recurring income, I'll be your biggest cheerleader and supporter. Nigerians no dey ever finish their problems, it's always one problem or the other and the same people will be eating goat head pepper soup every weekend and drinking beer, me wey dey abroad sef no dey chop like that

This is not wickedness or strictness, it's making sure Nigerians do not run you down and bring you back into the poverty you worked so hard to escape.

Exactly. Want to do something commendable, family should be your biggest fan, but you just want money to flex?? How now?? Seems to me that most Nigerians just want to live the fab life without working for it; rather than being content, working and growing (of course, with support from people but most importantly God)..

lolu2019:
Help them first,make we c.the best thing in life is self reliance.stop depending on any family or any one.thinking that u av a family out there make u relax and unproductive. ask God to open ur eyes so that u can see.be good to people. u don't know where help can come from.

Best post I've read so far..

Read people read.. Disallowed in the banking sector does not mean totally banned. If you have, no problem. if you are able to purchase, no problem (how you pay for it is left to you but "apparently" won't be through a Nigerian bank)

It's similar to how some items are banned from the official FX market but not banned from imports or purchase. In such cases people buy FX from the parallel market to fund such transactions.