₦airaland Forum

well, sometimes I just cannot reason why our collectively we cannot provide direction to our society

Obiagu1:
It's you that's making a case about Islam. The bottom line is that the North are murderers, whether they are "mistakenly" muslims, is not for to keep harping on. They are murderers, simple.

Hate is real and your mind is free to hate whom ever you want to hate. But be rational a times. There at least 50 - 70 millions muslims in Nigeria, with majority being in the North, if they are all murderers what do you think would have been happening? We would have been in a constant war.

The issue of Plateau is lack of leadership, trust and security. When government isn't able to offer security, leadership and direction, and in the middle of adversity, the people took laws in their hands.

Why hasn't the government done anything since? Rather than finding a solution, the government just took a normal knee jark reaction and deployed soilders. Are soilders going to heal the wounds? Are soilders going to offer sympathy, calm and compensation to victims? Are soilders going to provide justice?

Your hate of Muslims shouldn't cloud your sense of reasoning

seanet03:
@ezeuche, students are definitely up to the task. Iranian students did it during the iranian revolutions.

Those students were organised, focus and not lazy

Nigerian students have never had balls to do anything. We have seen numerous strikes and university closures, what did the students do?

Obiagu1:
A referendum to split this country in two, moderate mainly christian south and your beloved Sharia republic in the north.

So you think the issue in Jos is about Sharia?

The crises in Jos is internal Nigerian crises and of Northern Nigeria. The people of Plateau know that. In the even of Referendum, Jos will still remain part of Northern Nigeria. The State is not something that can be considered in the middle belt. Plataeu is right in the heart of the North and any referendum will not solve the problem.

The Government should take concrete steps by inviting neutral parties for arbitration between the warring society, and also address the issue of indegene and settler, not only in Jos, but in the whole country.

calaway:
Some of us have relations who r students in Univs across the country. Students who have only just resumed to lectures last week in Jos where going about their sturdy related activies when Hausa youths ambushed and Killed six of them yesterdy and this morning students angered by the killing of their collegues mobilized and staged a demonstration in protest , only to get shot at by the STF, The same STF watched as 50 innocent Nigerians travelling trough Jos  were killed and burnt by hausa youth. dont be surprised that those  unfortunate students could easily be somebody close to you. We must all  condemn the Hausa/Fulani tribe  for these dastardly act of murderous act which they perpetrate with impunity with confidence of the backing of the STF. THis situation do not give room to any fence sitting by7 any group as yoruba, igbos,Tivs,berom,ijaw,calabar, indeed any one who is not Hausa muslim stands the risk of getting killed with out provocation by the Hausa youth. It is shocking that the news sipping out of Jos is distorted always. Really the is no religious crisis stewing rather there are attacks with a religious backdrop organized alway by a tribal collective.  Those who sympathize with these murderers eighter cos the share the same religious or tribal sentiments must condemn these actions and seek the apprehension and punishment of these deviant, if they mean well for all, Or simply advice their brethren to stop dragging their repute in mud

First, considering the level of violence and killings in Jos, the university shouldn't have been opened in the first place.

Jos is in a war, unless peace is restored, followed by peace and reconciliation conference followed by conselidation of the peace gained, after that normal life activities should resumed including elections.

One can just imagine, under this same security crises, the government is encouraging people to go out and register and they are also planning for elections in the same Jos. To elect who and for what? The Federal government failed

kettykin:
I have also observed how most noise makers in the country have chickened out and not making any comments like Mr laughter a.k.a OBJ , gowon, danjuma , useni, domkat bali even david mark who called ghadafi a mad man some months back.

But when it comes to less trivial issues such as some ibo massob boy shouting biafra , we see these noise makers in action .

Is it that their boldness is one sided or they are plain silly

The people involved in the crises and all the victims are poor people and therefore do not present a challenge to their looting status.

Massop, Niger-delta crises affects their daily loot and therefore they will talk about it.

Obiagu1:
The Jos students got involved when some muslims coming back from burial attacked two female students and stabbed them. This provoked the students to a protest.

. . . and what happened?
Brig. Gen. Hassan Umaru ordered the killing of more students, like WTF
Why hasn't GEJ fired this man?
Which kind of country is this?

It's time students all over the country join in solidarity with their Jos counterparts and call for a referendum. Students can do it!

A referendum for what?

This is really shocking.!!! In a very serious country, this is sufficient enough to declare State of Emergency in the entire country, stop the stupid circus of the election process, rally the good people of Nigeria to find a permanent and lasting solution to this problem.

The President, the Senate, the House of Reps infact the entire instutitions of the Nigerian state has failed.

Donmeca:
I see what started as a protest against Police brutalisation of a Tunisian "hawker" snowballing into an Arab Revolution. The arabs have operated a very closed society for centuries and the 21 century people are now waking up to the fact that they are equally humans after all.

@topic; no one has ever bn declared winner of a presidential poll in Egypt and Mubarak denied him/her authority. . .we rig elections in Nigeria but in d end INEC declare the highest rigger winner of d polls. Again, is mubarak staying beyond what Egyptian constitution demands?

NB: I hate to have one person in govt beyond 5 years (he is not d only capable hand to lead his people) but it's left for d people to say he shud go and that is what I see them doing but unfortunately, he may still have the sympathy of majority.

Egyptian constitution? We are talking about a dictator here. A person who decides what should be written in the constitution. The guys is 83 years for Godsake. A great-grand father. I bet half of the time he must be sleeping. He isn't the one making decisions in Egypt

PhysicsMHD:
Those mini bows are customary/traditional Chinese greetings.


Can't vouch for Obama's other bows though.

yeh but can't you see the chinese guy is not bowing!!! They are support to be bows of mutual respect from each other. But here it is only the O guy doing it

These are projections, mainly with the expectation that immigration will play a very big role. However, we all know that economy and political freedom are the main drivers of immigration. The economic tides might change and political situations in most developing countries might change. And then you will have another wave of emigration back to middle-east and Africa

EzeUche_:
Well when Muslim radicals do this, of course we are alarmed. They already been targeting Christians. Now they are targeting their own!

I thought u are looking for people with balls not christain's radicals.

The christain radicals in the south killed innocent Nigerians on the road, kiddnapped innocents

Just support whoever is meeting your wish

From BBC Hausa

An kashe dan takarar gwamnan ANPP a Borno
Wasu 'yan bindiga sun harbe dan takarar gwamnan jihar Borno na jam'iyyar ANPP Modu Fannami Gubio, tare da wasu mutane hudu har lahira.

Maharan sun bude wa dan siyasar wuta ne bayan kammala sallar Juma'a, yayin da yake ganawa da jama'a a kofar gidan mahaifinsa.

Wasu mutanen hudu ciki har da tsohon shugaban Karamar Hukumar Ngala - wanda kani ne ga gwamnan jihar Ali Madu Sharif da wani karamin yaro da kuma mai wanke takalmi, duka sun hallaka a harin.

Alhaji Modu Fannami Gubio, shi ne wanda gwamnan jihar ke marawa baya domin ya gaje shi a zaben da za a gudanar a watan Afrilu.

An dade ana fama da tashin hankali a jihar ta Maiduguri wanda ake alakanta wa da kungiyar Boko Haram.

Amma wakiliyar BBC a jihar Bilkisu Babangida, ta ce ana alakanta wannan da ma kashe-kashen baya-bayan nan da siyasa

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/hausa/news/2011/01/110128_madu_killing.shtml

These Indians are really very silly. From the same newspaper the have an article about population growth

In the midst of all the handwringing over population explosion in the country, the Indian government might miss preparing for a global record-setting event — the birth of the baby that would take the population of planet earth to the seven billion mark.

The momentous birth is projected to happen towards the October or November. But what's that got to do with India? Well, we just happen to be the country with by far the highest number of babies born every minute at 51. That means the probability of Baby 7 Billion being an Indian is higher than for any other nationality. I[b]n fact, Uttar Pradesh alone has about 11 babies born every minute a figure that no nation other than China exceeds and Nigeria matches.[/b]

May be he is going in as the Trojan Horse!!! Sometimes you need that to penetrate barriers

Why do we even need to issue bonds? Aganga came with his Goldman Sach ideology that every government must issue bond to international investors. But issuing bond is literary going into debt. So instead of going to National Assembly to get permission for borrowing, now they want to start selling bonds to international financiers, who will continue milking us and our great great grand children. What do we need the money for? They should tell us what they are going to do with the money they raised from capital market? Europe is crumbling. Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spains are all in huge economic conundrum as a result of selling bonds to investors.

I wish nobody buy the bonds. But heck, who is a fool? After the last time, the Paris club raked nearly $18Bn for giving us $3Bn and therefore anybody will buy Nigerians bonds. We are oil producing country and we always pay our debts.

The Area Commander of Area “G” Police Command, Mr. Mobolaji Odesanya, an Assistant Superintendent of Police, ASP, visited the scene of the crime this morning.

He promised that the Lagos State Commissioner of Police, Mr. Marvel Akpoyibo will also visit the scene very soon.

Mr. Odesanya also added that investigation into the incident has commenced.

KnowAll:
The invasion has lost momentum & that element of suprise. Now Gbagbo would be scurrying d whole world looking for weapons, merceneries, & that joker weapon that would suprise ECOWAS soldiers, after all In today's world u can buy dirty & impoverished nuclear bombs in d black market for a few fist of dollars.

The invasion haven't lost any momentum. It would have been unacceptable to many countries and even at the UN to invade IC immediately after election. They were in demonising period. Just like Iraq and Saddam, they waited to build up propaganda and demonised Gbagbo by telling the whole world that he has refused to negotiate. While in clear terms, there was no negotiation on table. The AU, ECOWAS and UN were just offering Gbagbo and his family temporary sanctuary in Calabar before they hand him over to Hague




We are going to see the worst genocide in human history if Nigerian soldiers invade IC. It is not going to be like SL or Liberia where we faced rebels and to some large extend, we were just busy producing babies. If Gbagbo resisted and try to find, we are not going to be like American Soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan with significant restrain. Our Soldiers will shoot at anything that move or creepeth on the earth. It is going to be a die - die thing.

This reminded me of Abacha. We were on a dubious transition to democracy but the guy was sending soilders to Seirra Leone to dislodge coupe plotters!!!! We are strutting all over Africa, with our nyash opened and torn sandals

Simple!!!

What make a chinese, chinese? Is Chinese American, Chinese?

What make an Indian, Indian? Is Indian American, Indian?

If you have an answer to this question, then u got ur solution!

the news was wrong. the translators were wrong. non where supporting each other. if you understand the news listen from the website or get anyone you know understand hausa to translate it for you.

The news is from DailyChampions not the Allafrica editorial.

It is just sound irrational for Ribadu to join forces with Atiku less than week from their primaries without even a running mate yet.

There is something wrong. This is the VOA website and it carries all yesterday's and monday's news. Can anybody that understand Hausa try to listen to Yesterday's morning programme and explain to those that don't understand Hausa what is being said?

http://www.voanews.com/hausa/audio/

The morning news broadcasted separate interviews from Atiku even before the primaries. Then a separate statements from Ribadu campaigning for himself attacking PDP, Shekarau attacking PDP, then Bafarawa about why he quit the primaries. No where in the news it was said they are conducting interviews of the 4 presidential aspirants and nowhere they said they were joining forces. Infact, they stated the are still waiting to hear from Atiku about his next of step after losing the primaries to Jonathan.

This is just poor journalism. Lack of proper vetting of news before going to press.

It is a lie.

tpia*:
^^ aboki means friend.

she's not one of the ones attacking northerners.

of course I know means friends but it is derogatory.

It is just like a white man calling black Nigger in America

or Hausa calling Igbo Inyamiri

Moreover Im not Hausa

Jenifa_:
hhaha so aboki, what is "how are you" ?

Why are u calling me Aboki?

jumobi1:
If Ribadu is fine with Atiku supporting him then I can't support Ribadu

THE NEWS WAS WRONG. THE TRANSLATORS WERE WRONG. NON WHERE SUPPORTING EACH OTHER. IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE NEWS LISTEN FROM THE WEBSITE OR GET ANYONE YOU KNOW UNDERSTAND HAUSA TO TRANSLATE IT FOR YOU.

ATIKU WAS NOT SUPPORTING ANY OF THEM.

I LISTENED TO THE NEWS AND NO WHERE THEY ARE JOINING FORCES.

THEIR TRANSLATORS WERE WRONG.

IT IS JUST LIKE CNN AIRING VIEWS OF DIFFERENT PRESIDENTIAL ASPIRANTS AT THE SAME TIME.

Gbawe:
"Join forces" may simply mean that Atiku has decided to support their ambition. Wether the story is true of false will probably not be ascertained 100% by what we conclude here. More info will come about but it is certainly logical to expect Northern die-hards , with nowhere to go , to pitch their tent with Ribadu, Shekarau or Buhari.

Gbawe:
Allafrica.com is usually reliable and neutral. To be honest, one can expect Atiku, given how he has attacked Jonathan regularly and moved from one Party to the next , to walk away from the PDP to work with any Northern candidate he feels can stop GEJ. Some Northern PDP members will bury the hatchet and work for a PDP victory through GEJ but I don't think Atiku falls in that category.

The news is from DailyChampions not the Allafrica editorial.

It is just sound irrational for Ribadu to join forces with Atiku less than week from their primaries without even a running mate yet.

There is something wrong. This is the VOA website and it carries all yesterday's and monday's news. Can anybody that understand Hausa try to listen to Yesterday's morning programme and explain to those that don't understand Hausa what is being said?

http://www.voanews.com/hausa/audio/

The morning news broadcasted separate interviews from Atiku even before the primaries. Then a separate statements from Ribadu campaigning for himself attacking PDP, Shekarau attacking PDP, then Bafarawa about why he quit the primaries. No where in the news it was said they are conducting interviews of the 4 presidential aspirants and nowhere they said they were joining forces. Infact, they stated the are still waiting to hear from Atiku about his next of step after losing the primaries to Jonathan.

This is just poor journalism. Lack of proper vetting of news before going to press.

It is a lie.

I went to the VOA website but couldn't find such news there and it was not on yesterdays news!!!!!

Is this really true or just sensetional news!!! If something like this did really happened, it would be a national news and will be carried by all newspapers

Jenifa_:
erm nagode?

Meaning thank you!!!!!!

spyder880:
Blowing hot breeze, talk is cheap.
I say, shoot any killer/rioter between the eyes, this will be more effective than a million words.

You are the one who is afraid of dying. These people have already seen death. Inhumane death and they have been living with fear of death for years and this has become a norm to them. It is now their culture. These people are traumatised. Permanently. This is not going to do anything. It might result in escalation of the war.

These people have already lost faith in the military. What do you think will happen if the army kill few people within the next couple of days? Do you think they will run away and hide? No!!!! They will mobilise and fight back. They already don't trust the army. This is just a recipe of genocide. We are going to see the repeat of Bosnia, or Isreal Invasion of Gaza in 2008/2009. When people are hardened, they don't fear death. A permanent and peaceful solution is required to end this crises