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Politics › Re: Are You Willing To Pay N178,000 Monthly For A 24-hour Electricity Supply? by tundebasic(m): 12:58pm On Apr 04, 2024

mrvitalis:
Do Nigerians lack electricity? What stops you from getting electricity?

$15k can give a household 24/7 electricity for 20 years none stop

Do Nigerians have electricity? Abi what have we been clamoring about since? So, a country of 200 million people generating less than 7000 mega watts has electricity? In comparison, Angola generates over 1 giga watts?

Do you know my income as a Nigerian? If I earn 120k monthly, at the current exchange rate, $15k is around 18 million NGN. It'll take me 15 years to raise it.

Politics › Re: Are You Willing To Pay N178,000 Monthly For A 24-hour Electricity Supply? by tundebasic(m): 11:54am On Apr 04, 2024

Zxcvbnmghtr:
That's not true. Most factories have not been relaying on 'NEPA' for a very long time because of the epileptic power supply. Truth be told, most businesses run on generator, house holds, spend a lot of money on powering their generators. It's not a factor at all.

The problem is not [for] existing factories. People keep making that mistake. The problem is for upcoming factories or people who were planning to start new production lines. The costs of manufacturing and production just increased.

Politics › Re: Are You Willing To Pay N178,000 Monthly For A 24-hour Electricity Supply? by tundebasic(m): 11:50am On Apr 04, 2024

mrvitalis:
I have always said it here, Nigerians that can afford 24 hours electricity already have it

There is no one that wants electricity 24/7 that can't get them

Nigerians want the impossible which is free/cheap and steady electricity... Electricity is luxury and we are too poor for it right now

We don't need electricity for development

There is absolutely no company you can start only when you have electricity 24/7 that u can't start now

I've read so many comments from you today, and I'm awestruck!
1. Electricity is not a human right?
Well, while it may not be a fundamental human right, it is a derived human right.

2. Electricity is not needed for development?

So, can you tell us what is needed for development?

According to Forbes:
A lack of energy in the form of electricity fundamentally restricts the development of many countries. Access to electricity reduces poverty, increases opportunity, and improves health, productivity and living standards.

So, how do you think we can reduce poverty, increase job creation and opportunities, and improve health care, and living standards without electricity?

3. You are separating access to electricity from electricity itself. I believe they are the same.

4. Nigeria is one of the countries with cheapest electricity in Africa as at 2023 (top 10 at $0.03 USD), but now in 2024, we are among the top 20 costliest country in Africa with this new tariff (at $0.15 USD).
In your own opinion, what justifies this increase?

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Family › Re: My Story As A Surrogate Mother And Advice Needed by tundebasic(m): 5:36am On Mar 31, 2024

Giftedheart16:
I just got to lagos this evening,I wish I can sue her or drop her number here so she can get insults or questions from nigerians but in nigeria if no money no power.thanks to everyone for your advice.i will drop her name and clinic laterv

Damn, this story!
You were a bit slow. You should have gotten the contact of the lady from the Health Authority since you are under cover.

You have a lot of evidence including the payments made to you. You can also get more evidence from the pregnant woman you mentioned, and the new secretary.

This one should not be swept under the carpet o.

So many wrongs in this story. So, the husband & wife are not even medical practitioners?!

Also, you did IUI not IVF, which means it was your child that was given to someone else (I'm placing both hands on my head in exclamation)?!

Consult a lawyer for legal advice on this matter, and you need to do this ASAP.

Health › Re: Please How Much Will It Cost To Remove My Womb? I'm Tired!!!! by tundebasic(m): 8:17pm On Mar 24, 2024

Jewessgratitud3:
You won't understand.

Go to a good clinic and let them refer you to a standard lab for full stomach scan. It's probably fibroid.

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Romance › Re: You Are Not A Man If You Are Concerned About Your Woman’s Earnings – Saida Boj by tundebasic(m): 3:16pm On Mar 20, 2024

EreluRoz:
I don't even have the strength of being a feminist, feminists agrees to 50/50 sharing formulas, they are strong women and me I no get power.

I'm a proud dependent woman

Do you want to be a full-time house wife?

Why must your man be down or broke before you sort bills?

What is the place of kindness, unity, and mutual benefits in a relationship?

Will you be able to carry your babies all alone (at every time of the day) till they grow to become teenagers without letting their dad carry them even for once?

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Agriculture › Re: Exporters Of Palm Kernel In Nigeria by tundebasic(m): 6:21pm On Mar 18, 2024

Amunesteve:
Good day Sir/ Ma I have a very big palm kernel Farm and I would love to supply you or supply abroad , how can you be of help. Thanks in anticipation

Business › Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by tundebasic(m): 2:14pm On Mar 13, 2024

darediamond:
China export processed or finished Goods while Nigeria export Raw and or Natural Resources which we are not even the one that determines there prices.

Currency Devaluation helps developed Nations not chronic under-developed Nations which Nigeria is one of. Do not let the IMPERIALIST FOOL YOU LIKE THE DID WITH SOME OF OTHER AFRICANS.

Hello bro, I want to learn about mechanized cassava farming. If you are in the southwest, maybe I can come. Otherwise, if you know any farmer's association that deals with cassava cultivation, I'll like to join.
Hoping to hear from you.

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Romance › Re: These Wedding Pictures Are Trending Online by tundebasic(m): 2:20pm On Mar 12, 2024

One of them probably lost a very important family member, few days to the wedding.

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Education › Re: ASUU Sets To Embark On Nationwide Strike, Holds Meeting With Members by tundebasic(m): 11:23pm On Mar 04, 2024

Stomoney:
Power line area, Oke baale area, Agunbelewo area

Those are the environment I can vouch for

Thanks so much my man. I appreciate this feedback.

Education › Re: ASUU Sets To Embark On Nationwide Strike, Holds Meeting With Members by tundebasic(m): 12:15pm On Mar 04, 2024

Stomoney:
Better

Someone can't even buy 5 rubbers of rice with 10k now

Yet refuses to increase salary

Hi, please where in Osogbo can one get steady (stable) electricity?
I'm currently in Abeokuta but I'm planning to relocate to Osogbo because of electricity.

Romance › Re: Trending Video Of A Nigerian Lady & Her Cute White (oyinbo) Husband (pics/video) by tundebasic(m): 5:56am On Feb 23, 2024

Singlesingle:
A scary face, making me dizzy sef

Let's connect. You can reach out to me via WhatsApp (check the number in my signature) or via email. You can check your email for my connect request from Nairaland.

Politics › How To Enable A Stable FX Using The E-naira Value Chain by tundebasic(op): 12:19pm On Feb 22, 2024*

This is just a personal opinion, because I am not an expert in economic matters; I am just a freelance analyst of the Naira currency trend . The idea is to stop the free fall (devaluation) of the naira.

First, I will say the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) has been proactive. In the immediate past administration, it proposed many policies towards the stabilisation of the naira. My concept towards the stabilisation of the naira will be based on an existing framework from the CBN—using the E-Naira .

Note: E-Naira is a digital currency. It is not a cryptocurrency. Hence, we should use a stable value.

Thus, my proposed solution is "The Managed E-Naira Value Chain System."

So, let's dive in:

1. Following this concept, the CBN will create a digital platform (software, app, web, mobile) where only the CBN sells the E-Naira.

2. The CBN will only sell E-Naira to BDCs and IMTOs.

Now this is where it gets interesting:

3a. Instead of selling dollars to BDCs, the CBN will sell E-Naira to BDCs, while BDCs buy E-Naira from the CBN with dollars.

3b. IMTOs will have to get hard currencies from their customers and exchange/flip the hard currency to E-Naira, which can only be obtained from the CBN. This means IMTOs, too, will not be allowed to exchange e-currencies for Naira directly. E-Naira will be adopted for FX transactions through IMTOs and BDCs.

3c. Now, for this concept to work, the operators (buyers of E-Naira) will be regulated by the CBN (only IMTOs and BDCs should be allowed to buy E-Naira). Also, the exchange rate (value of dollars to E-Naira) will have to be regulated or managed by the CBN.

4. The CBN will have to reintroduce Form A and Form M for people to fill in for dollar requests since dollars will no longer be available for purchase from BDCs (BDCs will be using dollars to purchase E-Naira). BDCs will get dollars/hard currencies from customers while using the dollars to purchase e-naira from the CBN.

4b. Filling out Forms A and M will help weed out currency hoarders since requests for important FX will only be granted. Moreover, even if they lie, they can only change the dollars through a bank (directly to Naira) or BDC (via E-Naira).

5. When a customer brings hard currency to a BDC for exchange, the BDC will collect the dollar and send an equivalent amount of E-Naira to the customer's e-wallet. E-Naira can only be exchanged for Naira on the CBN E-Naira app.

6. Also, customers of commercial banks will be allowed to exchange [physical] hard currencies for Naira without going through the hassle of the CBN E-Naira wallet.

7. Commercial banks will not be allowed to sell e-currencies to BDCs. Instead, the commercial bank will give a monthly account of the dollars in its coffers. With the total amount of dollars in the banks, dollars received from IMTOs, and dollars from BDCs, the CBN can plan how to give dollars to people who need them (they filled out Forms A and M). This will help weed out currency hoarders.

N.B: Check the table below for an illustration of this concept....

How to deal with non-compliance in BDCs and IMTOs:
8a. E-Naira should be restricted to BDCs, IMTOs, and their customers using a CBN E-Naira app.

8b. A BDC shall only be in operation if it consistently purchases E-Naira from the CBN.

8c. IMTOs too must be mandated to purchase E-Naira if they must deal in naira. Any IMTO not willing to purchase E-Naira (with dollars) should stop dealing in the Naira.

8d. The CBN should monitor the accounts of every authorised BDC. Any BDC that does not purchase E-Naira in 2–3 months should lose its license or be suspended.

8e. IMTOs should allow people to exchange their hard currencies for E-Naira, which the customers will convert to Naira on the CBN E-Naira app. Banks should not be allowed to exchange, buy, or sell E-Naira. It will only be made possible on the CBN E-Naira app.

How this will stabilise the exchange rate:
9a. Remember that IMTOs and BDCs are buying E-Naira with dollars? They are also only selling E-Naira to customers (since they must use dollars to get E-Naira if they still want to be in operations).

9b. So, if a BDC pays a customer N1,700.00 for $1.00 since the BDC will purchase $1.00 worth of E-Naira for N1,300.00 from CBN, the BDC will make a loss of N400.00 per dollar.

9c. Also, if a BDC increases the price of its E-Naira from N1350.00 to, let's say, N1800.00, the customer will not buy because they will only be able to exchange it for N1,350.00 on the CBN E-Naira app. The customer also suffers a loss.

How this helps the bank:
10a. This means banking apps can convert FX earnings directly to Naira. Many would prefer to exchange directly to Naira without going through the hassle of E-Naira.

10b. IMTOs can use the CBN E-Naira app API to determine the volume of dollars needed to purchase an equivalent amount of E-Naira when a customer requests an exchange.

10c. Otherwise, an IMTO shall determine the average monthly volume of dollars flipped/exchanged for naira on its platform. An equivalent amount of E-naira shall be purchased monthly by IMTOs exchanging dollars for E-Naira.

How this tackles round-trips:
11a. Dollars obtained from outside the banking system will be brought back into the banking system.

11b. Using the Form A and Form M concepts, dollars will no longer be sold/given to individuals. However, the CBN will use a managed lending model for dollar buyers. Where dollar buyers in Nigeria must have a blocked account [more on this].

11c. Also, hard currencies will not be given in cash to people who own domiciliary accounts. They can use cards, transfer, etc. But for withdrawals, they either convert directly to Naira (through banks) or use E-Naira (through BDCs/CBN E-Naira app).

12. This is just a brief introduction to the concept, as further approaches, information, and references will be discussed with policymakers.

Summary
CBN should stop selling dollars to banks and BDCs. Instead, it should buy dollars from them at a controlled price. Anyone who needs dollars should get Form A and Form M from the CBN by applying through commercial banks.

Politics › Re: Tinubu: We Will Raise $10 Billion To Stabilise Naira, Boost FX Liquidity by tundebasic(m): 5:29am On Feb 21, 2024

amakanancy:
Don't mis-quote sir. The statement is easy to understand. We will raise is totally different from we will borrow... you can raise money without borrowing.

“At the core of this is ensuring optimal management of the assets and investments of the Federal Government towards unlocking their revenue potential.

I like your optimism. But, if they could raise it, they would have done it without announcement.

Also, someone that wants to raise 10 naira would first raise 1, 2, 3 naira and you would have seen the person is capable of raising 10 naira.

The last time this administration raised $3bn you can check how they did it.

Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tundebasic(m): 4:29am On Feb 21, 2024

Quiteparrot:
This country is finished, everybody is now chasing after the dollar, #1800/$ as at today. I'm so depressed right now, all my investments are in Naira. Mutual funds is giving me 11.5%, Bond at 15.7%, my purchasing power has been reduced by more than 50%. I sold my SUV about two years ago, hoping to buy something bigger, now the old version type I sold is now 14m for Nigeria used, I can't keep up. I had to close down my business because of government satanic policies, fixed investments wey I put eyes to dey use take care of family, devaluation and hyperinflation no gree, I'm so tired.

Each time I want to process a withdrawal from my mutual funds investment in order to starch it all in dollars, I get weary because of the monthly income I will earn from it which I've been using solely to take of my family, the more I tarry the more the dollar soar. Newbies should learn from my mistake, don't keep more than 20% of your investments in Naira, 80% should be dollar investment.

Is there anyway I can sell my 10 years SUKUK? Nigeria bonds is a loss in disguise

You have to comfort yourself because you are not alone. I was working remotely.

Towards the beginning of this administration I converted all my [little FX] earnings to naira thinking this government will just be blocking naira indescriminately, and I can also cushion whatever comes since I earn in FX.

So, I fixed the naira in Tbs thinking worst comes to worst, I can buy my FX back within a year.

Unfortunately, I lost the remote job, and my naira is extremely worthless within 9 months! Just waiting for the TBs to drop next month and I find my bearing. So, you are not alone.

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Politics › Re: Tinubu: We Will Raise $10 Billion To Stabilise Naira, Boost FX Liquidity by tundebasic(m): 3:40am On Feb 21, 2024

Origin:
Short term fix.

As long as everyone continues to use importer rather than local goods. The demand for fx will always stack higher than the naira....

From your gate to your living room to your bedroom everyone uses 90% imported in their homes. Even when local is available and cheaper. We all still opt for these imported items.......

We all know the solution but the fruit of corruption is to steal as to use all that glitters that is not gold....

Buy local to grow the Naira.

And it is still the same corruption that has our fx rising because our main trade partner is China and we should be concerned about the yen but our loans and corruption is in dollars.

Well, it will be patriotism to buy local goods to grow the naira.

Rather, unfortunately, in Nigeria, local goods too depends on dollar exchange rate. Garri went from 2k to 7.5k here per basin. Local rice went from 7500 to over 50k. A palm slippers went from 6k to 15k. Cement went from 2.2k to 10.5k. Are these not local goods?

Funny enough, the government even plans to make cement cheaper by allowing importation of cement. Something we produce locally. Doesn't that tell us something?

Nigeria's economic policy would require a unique approach.

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Politics › Re: Tinubu: We Will Raise $10 Billion To Stabilise Naira, Boost FX Liquidity by tundebasic(m): 3:19am On Feb 21, 2024

malali:
Even if you raise 100 billion dollars.

As long as there are a few Nigerians with 10 billion naira cash at home, they will change it to dollars in no time.

And we are back to square one......The Banks are complicit as well, our banks need the "sanusi" treatment, Flush out culpable CEO/MD's

You have to address the looters, the corrupt officials, the money launderers, the currency traffickers, the currency hoarders.

Stop pretending they dont exist or they are untouchable.

These people are making a fool of your government and your strategies. You are now spending more than the "removed" subsidy to stabilize the naira....lol

Unfortunately, forex hoarders have increased. Most Nigerians that were unaware or unconcerned about the naira-dollar disparity are now aware. Also, diasporans now understand they make loses by investing in naira. Honestly, I don't know what this government can do. But borrowing dollars to stabilize naira to dollar exchange rate is a short-term solution.

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Politics › Re: Speculators Undermine Measures To Stabilize Foreign Exchange Market – Ribadu by tundebasic(m): 8:32pm On Feb 20, 2024

mrvitalis:
The solution is to borrow to defend the naira
U need to borrow, Obi then said he would borrow $15 billion to defend the naira

The main issue is no body trust Tinubu enough to give him that amount

No body trust his management skills

The $3 billion he got he mismanaged it

E Even if the CBN borrows money to stabilize the naira, it will not work now. The value can drop briefly, but it will still go up due to free floating. Borrowing to stabilize the naira can only work if the naira is pegged/fixed. The official market can be controlled while the unofficial markets will be managed.

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TV/Movies › Re: Can Anyone Recall The Title Of This Movie????? by tundebasic(m): 7:58pm On Feb 15, 2024

I sing this song very often too:

"The sun that rise in the morning is the sign of hope for a brighter day.
The sun that sets in the evening, brings forth life in abundance
Yes our is life
In every born child
Yes our lord is hope
He makes our dreams come true..."

But, I didn't hear it from any movie. I think I learnt the song while in primary school, which was way before 2012.

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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tundebasic(m): 4:33pm On Jan 30, 2024

skydiver01:
For example, you can enquire from your bank, to start with, that you would like to buy monthly United States treasury bills (e.g. the 10, 20 or 30 years) and take it from there. Over time you will be in a position (unless you are already in a position) to open an account with an international Investment and Asset Management institution like Shroders who have been around for over 2000 years. Shroders was founded in 1800.

Thanks so much. I appreciate this information.

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Investment › Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tundebasic(m): 1:54pm On Jan 29, 2024

skydiver01:
Thank you and very precise 👍 I have never bought Nigerian Eurobonds in my life.

So, sir, if I may ask, which channel, app, or investment companies do you use to access foreign currency denominated investments from Nigeria?

Jobs/Vacancies › Re: My Aunty Wants To Quit Her Job by tundebasic(m): 2:27pm On Jan 10, 2024

Your aunt plans to resign when labour is working with the government (FG) to increase salaries?
1. She can wait to see what labour works with the government before considering resigning.
2. She should check out if she can get accommodation close to her place of work.
3. She needs to make a plan with her husband on the best way to solve the accommodation problem.

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Romance › Re: Broken Up With My Nigerian Boyfriend by tundebasic(m): 10:32am On Jan 08, 2024

End that relationship and go find yourself another man.

He is your first. How many people even marry their first?

There are many young men out there looking for who to marry.

Forget this one and move on.

Business › Factory Leasing Agreement by tundebasic(op): 10:14am On Jan 08, 2024

Are you planning to travel out of the country and you need capable managers to lease your factory to?

My client is actively looking out for a factory on lease. If you have a factory and you want to lease it out, then you can contact me as I have a client ready to partner with you.

The factory can be any of:

1. Bakery (specifically bread)
2. Table water
3. Restaurant
4. Furniture
5. Sawmill
6. Food and beverages
7. Others

Check signature for WhatsApp.

Business › Re: Is Water Production Business Viable? Please Advise Me by tundebasic(m): 6:51pm On Jan 07, 2024

judicata:
I would deeply appreciate more responses pls.

naijacutee, FOD, dominique, pls help

Where is your location as I am looking towards partnership?

We can discuss this further if you want.

Pets › Re: Snake I Kill At My Farm by tundebasic(m): 4:57am On Jan 03, 2024

AngelicDamsel:
Lala: why are you calling me? I'm in church!

Commenters: Lala na snake.

Lala:

You are so fine! Will like to make friends. I sent you a connect via pm. Let's connect via email if you don't mind. Yours,

Family › Re: LEARN FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND AVOID MOGs THAT ARE POLITICAL IN NATURE by tundebasic(m): 3:02pm On Dec 30, 2023

Jewessgratitud3:
Determine whether I like him? Abeg how old are you?
Did you not understand from the word go I said I didn't like him or which part did you not understand?

Go and learn comprehension skills. Until then stop reading my posts.

Thank you

Okay, I hear you. But, we are still saying the same thing. I think you are the one who needs to sharpen her comprehension skills.

You don't like a guy, but you can give him a list that mandates him to give you gifts/material things? You've not even told him you don't like him yet?!

Don't do that again. It's not christianly. Bye.

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Family › Re: LEARN FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND AVOID MOGs THAT ARE POLITICAL IN NATURE by tundebasic(m): 2:51pm On Dec 30, 2023

Jewessgratitud3:
What's all these ones saying? Before won't be get married after I rejected him? Or what exactly are you crying about?

Biko excuse me.

I'm not referring to how you rejected him. I'm only letting you see that the guy was boxed up enough to spend money on his marriage and travel, you confirmed he was not broke.

So, he wasn't stingy. He only wanted to be sure where he's putting his money.

Next time, don't use a list of items you want a man to purchase for you to determine your likeness for him.

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Family › Re: LEARN FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND AVOID MOGs THAT ARE POLITICAL IN NATURE by tundebasic(m): 2:26pm On Dec 30, 2023

You used to sing in the choir, right?
I believe you attend church.
While I am not here to castigate anyone, can you tell me what gave you the moral justification for this:

Though he too was acting stingy that Christmas period after giving him a list of what I needed....

You knew you did not like this guy, why give him a list of items you want to travel with?

The people you're taking those items on your list to would praise you, while you in turn will call the guy "mumu pastor."

Also, the guy not buying whatever you have on the list does not make him stingy. You even confirmed he married the other lady and they travelled abroad together.

In my opinion, I see the guy had a better use for his money.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by tundebasic(m): 9:56pm On Dec 24, 2023

Muyiwabiggy:
Sharrap there! Sex ko sexy ni. If sex ws the forbidden fruit why then did God tell them to multiply and be fruitful, I mean how are they supposed to fulfill that ordinance? Bongo tea! And pls don't tell crap about unlawful sex between Adam and Eve cos last time I checked they were already married immediately Eve was made from him abi wetin Genesis 2 vs 21 - 24 say?

There is no controversy about this topic. Like I said the forbidden fruit cannever be sex!

Gen 2:9 - And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground -trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. (NIV)

The garden had two trees in the middle, the tree of life and the tree of knowledge. The trees grew from the soil/ground.

P.S: My last contribution to this thread because the OP is uncouth.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by tundebasic(m): 9:04pm On Dec 24, 2023

Dtruthspeaker:
Ok you meant "solemnize". Thank God O!

Solemnization only meant marriage which is couple-ling (coupling) of a male and female and then they are husband and wife.

That was what God instituted.

But as you can see them Adam did not touch his wife especially as they were blessed to be fruitful as proven by the absence of pregnancy like Mary and Joseph before the time of The Holy Spirit was fulfilled.

Thus, while God had instituted marriage and theur marriage, He had not yet instituted the consumation of the marriage (which is sex) which the couple were waiting for its permission before Satan came and did his evil of intermeddling with the marriage.

If you had dated a virgin you would clearly see the "Don't touch Rule" which is why virgins beg you not to touch and defile them for it is their life and death!

There is no need for your explanation, I don't need it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Truly, The Forbidden Fruit Is Sex! by tundebasic(m): 7:13pm On Dec 24, 2023

Dtruthspeaker:
So when a priests blesses your marriage he had sex with the 2 of you eh? It's like you are a mad person. Bye bye.

I am not supposed to reply you again, because from all ramifications, I should not be your agemate. I was only trying to let you see things in the right perspective. I am not even saying I'm right because, obviously I am not the writer of the Bible. Yeah, I made a mistake in the construct, but saying you love the Holy spirit and saying someone is mad? You most be the most certified christian on earth! In fact, every christian should copy your lifestyle!!

Anyways, I modified what I earlier posted, and this is it again:

The forbidden fruit is not sex and it can never be sex.
Check the passage you quoted, read it from Gen 1:27-28. In fact, your passage actually proved that God solemnized the first marriage! Wow!

I just saw it today from that passage that he [God] prayed for them and said, be fruitful and multiply. What other solemnization do you want?

Do not interpret the Bible with your logic. If logic works, fine, but sometimes logic cannot be used to interprete what is in the word, so take them with the literary meaning.

I know you did not see this but God actually blessed animals and cause them to have sex in Gen 1:22. He did the same for man in Gen 1:28 [Thanks to you, I'm just seeing this today].

The forbidden fruit cannever be sex because the way man was sent out of the garden is to prevent man from eating the fruit of immortality. The fruit that man ate is the fruit of knowledge. That is the only thing that distinguish us from animals and make us equal with celestial beings.

On the other hand, celestial beings are only higher than humans because they are immortal (eaten the fruit of immortality), the one God did not want us to steal.

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