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chairman010:
bros, according to the bible, been born again is not enough, john 3:3 only says except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God, while John 3:5 says that except a man be born of water and spirit (water baptism and holy ghost baptism) he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
as you can see, there is a clear difference between seeing and entering
in acts 2:38 Peter told the Jews that they must be baptized in the name of the lord Jesus if the must be saved

the op has clearly misled that boy according to the bible

It is written, the letter killeth. You need the understanding of the holy spirit. Water baptism is a symbolic way of dying and coming back to life, which represents the the ' born again'. Receiving the Holy Ghost is the spiritual affirmation of being born again. The seeing and entering you talked about is just an emphasis of the fact that if you are not born again, you can see the kingdom, not to even talk of entering... What were you thinking ?, Read your bible and think again

miketayo:
accepting and doing his teachings or living like him is different .. U are born again once u r Christ like regardless of ur religion

Define 'Christ like' . Any way being born again means accepting and declaring that Jesus is your Lord and pets saviour. Just being a good person is never enough. For by strength shall no man prevail... Our holiness is like filthy rag in his presence. Please define 'Christ like'

aliscomonaj:
In contrast, to the believe of the Christians, all the prophet of God were all Muslims including Moses, Jesus and Muhammed. So if you asked a question whether muslims will make heaven is as if you asking if anyone will make heaven. These messengers all came with the same message which is worshiping of One God.
Islam teaches us that salvation is attainable through the worship of God alone. A person must believe in God and follow His commandments. This is the same message taught by all the Prophets including Moses and Jesus. There is only One worthy of worship. One God, alone without partners, sons, or daughters. Salvation and thus eternal happiness can be achieved by sincere worship.
In addition to this, Islam teaches us that human beings are born without sin and are naturally inclined to worship God alone (without any intermediaries). To retain this state of sinlessness humankind must only follow God’s commandments and strive to live a righteous life. If one falls into sin, all that is required is sincere repentance followed by seeking God’s forgiveness. When a person sins he or she pushes themselves away from the mercy of God, however sincere repentance brings a person back to God.
Salvation is a powerful word that the dictionary defines as the act of preservation or deliverance from destruction, difficulty, or evil. Theologically it is spiritual rescue from sin and its consequences. More specifically, in Christianity it is associated with redemption and the atonement of Jesus. Salvation in Islam is a very different concept. While it does offer deliverance from the fires of hell, it also rejects some of the basic principles of Christianity and states clearly that salvation is attained only through submission to the most merciful, God.
“Those who remember God (always, and in prayers) standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and think deeply about the creation of the heavens and the earth, (saying), "Our Lord! You have not created (all) this without purpose, glory to You! (Exalted are You above all that they associate with You as partners). Give us salvation from the torment of the Fire.” (Quran 3:191)
According to Christian doctrine, humankind is considered wayward and sinful. The doctrine of original sin states that humankind is born already tainted by the sin of Adam and therefore separated from God, and in need of a redeemer. Islam on the other hand out rightly rejects the Christian concept of original sin and the notion that humankind is born sinful.
The idea that innocent babies or children are sinful sounds completely absurd to a believer who knows that Islam is about original forgiveness not original sin. Humankind, according to Islam is born in a state of purity, without sin and naturally inclined to worship and praise God. However, human beings are also given freewill and are thus capable of making mistakes and committing sins; they are even capable of committing great evil.
Whenever a person commits a sin, he alone is responsible for that sin. Every person is responsible for his or her own actions. Consequently, no human being who has ever lived is responsible for the mistakes made by Adam and Eve. God says in the Quran:
“And no bearer of burdens shall bear another’s burden.” (Quran 35:18)
Adam and Eve made a mistake, they repented sincerely, and God in His infinite wisdom forgave them. Humankind is not doomed to be punished, generation after generation. The sins of the father are not visited upon the sons.
“Then they both ate of that tree, and so their private parts appeared to them, and they began to stick on themselves the leaves from Paradise for their covering. Thus did Adam disobey his Lord, so he went astray. Then his Lord chose him, and turned to him with forgiveness and gave him guidance.” (Quran 20:121-122)
Above all Islam teaches us that God is the most forgiving, and will go on forgiving, repeatedly. Part of being human is making mistakes. Sometimes the mistakes are made without deliberation or a bad intention, but sometimes we knowingly and deliberately sin and do wrong to others. Therefore as human beings, we are constantly in need of forgiveness.
The life of this world is fraught with trials and tribulations; however God did not abandon humankind to these tests. God equipped humankind with an intellect and the ability to make choices and decisions. God also gave us words of guidance. As our creator, He is well aware of our nature and eager to guide us on the straight path that leads to eternal bliss.
The Quran is God’s final revelation and it is applicable for all of humankind; all people, all places, all times. Throughout the Quran God continually asks us to turn to Him in repentance and ask for His forgiveness. This is the road to salvation. This is our rescue from destruction.

“And whoever does evil or wrongs himself but afterwards seeks God's forgiveness, he will find God Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Quran 4:10)
“And O my people! Ask forgiveness of your Lord and then repent to Him, He will send you (from the sky) abundant rain, and add strength to your strength, so do not turn away as criminals, disbelievers in the Oneness of God.” (Quran 11:52)
“Say: ‘O My slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of God, indeed God forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.’” (Quran 39:53)
Quran is not only a book of guidance; it is a book of hope. In it God’s love, mercy, and forgiveness are obvious and thus humankind is reminded not to give in to despair. No matter what sins a person may have committed if he resolutely turns to God, seeking forgiveness his salvation is assured.
Prophet Muhammad described sin as black spots covering the heart. He said, “Indeed if a believer sins, a black spot covers his heart. If he repents, stops the sin, and seeks forgiveness for it, his heart becomes clean again. If he persists (instead of repenting), it increases until it covers his heart…”
Salvation in Islam is not required because of the stain of original sin. Salvation is required because humankind is imperfect and in need of God’s forgiveness and love. In order to understand the concept of salvation correctly we must understand other topics embedded in salvation. These are, understanding the importance of tawheed, or the Oneness of God, and knowing how to repent sincerely.

it is written, I have set before thee life and death. if I were you, I will choose life, thus saith the Lord

agongajoseph:
Master wat do u mean by born again? So Muslims shud accept Jesus as thier saviour?

Being born again means accepting Jesus as your Lord and personal saviour.

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[quote author=ndustan post=56568753]That's the problem with Religion, thinking that the other person has to be like you or join your religion to be saved. Forgetting that 250 years ago non of us in Nigeria were either Christian nor Muslim.[/quote part of the days Jesus spent in death before resurrection, was to minister to all the departed souls . so 250 years ago and beyond is well taking care off.

Fakemumu:
tnk u so much God bless

.You will surely get out of this. Mine lasted 5years till I posted on nairaland,

Fakemumu:
tnk u dear ur one of d sensible ones here,I left because our love wasn't equal like he lved me too much like its close to an obsession n I didn't love him half but I loved d way he treadted me

.I see, the thing is this, I was once in a situation like this, I wrote a post on nairsland, some people wrote crazy advises, some wrote good ones, it is your responsibility to sieve through all the comments and apply the best to ur situation, every situation is different. Back to the question. The solution here lies in your hand , you have to pay less attention to the way he is treating you or pretend you do not care, also try and play on his intelligence, make him jealous, (you know him better, so you know how best to do it). Dress good, go out even if you have no where you are going to, dress sexily at night... Just watch him change. You will be amazed.

Fakemumu:
My husband in nonchallant,cnt defend my honour,dnt show he loves me,does not care about my feelings,he doesn't take me out,he geoes out n come late,we hardly communicate,we dnt go to church together,even in bed he doesn't care if am satisfied whenever hes ok he's out...he puts his own family first b4 me...
. I am tired u know,this is not what I want of my life...av always dreamt as a little girl to be married to d bone of my bone,my Better half,my best friend...i cnt see any of these in d man I love...when it comes
to his money he doesn't tell me anytin....
. I really don't want to bring up my ex cause heaven knows how hard am forcing d memories to go away but each minuite in dis marriage reminds me of what I left,my ex literaly worshiped me like a goddess,I was d centre of his world,he pictured his future arund me..he prays for me..hes very loving n romantic n Godly..arhhhh in tears I write this...i dnt know why I did dis to myself..
oh God forgive me,sometimes I think its because of the way I left him,it hurts him deep down his soul..i think its d consequences I am facing,he is d kind of guy u find once in a life time..
pls advise me on what to do

hmmmn, before I can give you the solution, tell me, why did you leave your ex

thesicilian:
It makes some sense to me though, even as a Christian. If a man can truly love God and his neighbour, and bears no I'll will towards anyone in his heart, why would a loving God deny him access into heaven?

there is a way that seemeth right on to a man but the end thereof is destruction

Only one condition guarantees heaven: unless a man be born again.

Olosho

He should not condem a married woman sleeping around.? Tufiakwa

emeijeh:
The list will confuse Namecheckers....

But i think the Niger delta names are more there.


We celebrate these guys.


Certified Namechecker, Benin branch

The list will confuse Namecheckers..

Bros I beg keep my own

Hm

jusRadical:
Hello?

Are u there or have u hidden ur head in shame. I am still patiently waiting for your list of those convicted and imprisoned for looting by this pmb's regime. Sustantiate ur claims.

please leavevtgat guy alone, now they want to talk of criticizing in a honest way, when everything about APC is fraud

blackpanda:
Stop saying nonsense. Lots of criminal looters are cooling their hills in kuje. If you want to criticize, try to be honest at least

shaarap

Such a fool

Such a fook

Trudax:
I am not questioning the validity of anyone's religious beliefs, I am just examining the act of using the bible as a guide to instill moral values in a child through reading the texts to the child and allowing the child access to it.

I don't think the bible is the best foundation for developing a child's morality. Like I said in my thread title, I think it's dangerously harmful.

Now I am not saying the bible isn't an efficient mechanism to imbue good moral values in a child, I am just saying it's not the best and it's also not the most efficient.

First of all, the bible is very instructive. It dishes out morality on the table of transcendent authority. It tells you that you must do something because god wants you to. This is also what parents tell their kids. They tell them not to steal or lie because god forbids them to lie. I believe it's more effective when a child does something because he understands the reason for doing that thing, than when he does that thing because he's been commanded by an invincible being not to do that thing.

Secondly, I think introducing a child to the notion of hell is terribly bad. This could have devastatingly harmful effects on the mind of the child. Imagine the mental trauma a child could go through when he contemplates the possibility of going to hell for committing even the smallest of crimes.

Thirdly, the bible is replete with stories that purport to espouse moral values, but actually convey the opposite of progressive moral values.
Example is the story of Abraham and Isaac. What moral value does this convey besides the ethics of committing murder? How about the story of Lot's wife? I don't see what else it can teach a child besides imbuing the child with a maddening amount of fear and crippling submission to every ordinance of God, despite what those ordinances are.

Finally, in my opinion exposing children to all the death and killing in the bible, at a young age, can have devastatingly bad effects on their mental and moral growth.

Go home!

martyns303:
This is going to be long, I hope you endure to the end.

I know what I am about to say will be controversial and not "politically correct", mostly for the feminist and others. I expect a lot of backlash, abuse and calling of names, it is a burden I am willing to take on.

I expect everybody to come here and call this man names, he's an animal, a coward (I agree on this), woman beater and all sort just to be accepted. But I have decided to share a different opinion.

First, people don't just go about attacking other people, not a woman you are married to, not the mother of your children, even mad people don't frequently attack people at random.

The thing is everybody have a breaking point, no matter how much you try to endure and try to be the better person, there comes that point you just can't take it.

Have I hit a woman b4? Yes, twice. It is not something I am proud of, I feel ashamed of myself afterwards. Now I have had my fair share of relationships but one stands out and I pray no man finds himself with a woman like that. This girl's words are venom, she rain abuses at the slightest provocation. If anyone knows me outside NL will know that I am extremely quite, an introvert and avoids confrontation at all cost.

If we agree to meet on somewhere and she gets there before, am dead. No matter the reason, she will call me and start abusing me, in fact if you are to hear her, you will call me a fool for staying with that kind of person. But she is not always like that, when she's not angry, she's one of the nicest person ever. Well educated and from a decent home so there's no indication that she will be like that.

The first time I hit her, we went to buy something together at the market. We ended up having a different opinion about an item and that was when she got angry, she started abusing me right there in public. It was as if the ground should open and swallow me, I was so embarrassed I decided to leave and go home. When she got back, she started yelling at me for leaving her behind at the market and the abuses begin. At that point I lost it, already am fuming from the market incident and now this, she has said worst things to me before and I simply walk away but this time I don't know what happened and I slapped her. Of course I apologized and begged and we got back to being normal, I noticed the abuses even stopped for sometime.

Now I don't want to mention what happened the second time, because not even a pope would have been able to handle the situation. At that point I ended the relationship.

Am i going to mention the times she gets angry and begin to damage my properties? Anything she gets her hands on she will destroy it. We all heard about Tonto Dikeh damaging properties worth millions of Churchill's.

The ultimate question is, why didn't I just leave the relationship, answer is, beside her bad moments she's a nice person. Plus I had to endure to keep up the relationship. Now it would be even more difficult for married people.

I am no way encouraging physical abuses by men, but before you crucify the man, have you considered what the man has been through?

No man should raise his hands on a woman, however we shouldn't be quick to throw the men under the bus either. This man is languishing in prison, some of us wouldn't have been able to walk half a mile in his shoes.

May God give us all compatible partners.

leaving her was the best decision ever

Bubu

sukkot:
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bros I beg nor hit me

sukkot:
this jonathan is just an all around terrible man

your life

Arda1000:
Forget the fraudster called mbaka his not a man of God but a politician

sorry bro, I wanted to say god of man

This man self . Why is God always showing you things about Buhari

PMWSpirit:
No mind them and their acute polio syndrome

bro the thing tire me

Potto, the dead white eyes .Very cute animal

Why are they always bending their legs when taking photo

Partnerbiz:
Nawao me dey here dey look for small 1 room wey i go stay with my 12 kids
See below shaa.

ur own good my
Own Na 17 kids and 3 wives.

Please just be Happy. God has better plan for you. My sister dated for 10 years, married and has been married for 9 years. But the past nine years of the marriage has been regrets. Please celebrate the break up