Ihedinobi3:

There is no error here.

Satan often gets special permission from God to harm believers. We see this in the example of Job and King Saul, at least (other examples abound).

In other words, Satan can be a tool in God's Hand for both testing and punishment for His Children. So, both verses are stating the same truth in two different but legitimate ways.

There is error there except if you want to be mischievous in your interpretation. The bible did not say God permitted satan to do it. It was plainly stated in Job what transpired between God and Satan, but in this case, you are just inferring. That is just your own extra-biblical explanation to suit yourself and get your holy book out of the hook. Are you saying everything Satan did in the bible was the work of God?

alBHAGDADI:
You failed to state which verses

2 Samuel 24:1 KJV
And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1 Chronicles 21:1 KJV
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

I don't think the error is from the version. Every version made the same mistake.

Akdegreat:


Apparently, there's nothing like an all loving and benevolent God.
Love is human idea.

God is love

the man is rocking his wrapper

Blockdock90:


Wow you didn't even waste time to confirm my point.

I wasn't trying to oppose you

Blockdock90:
Everyday I observe the sub-saharan part of Africa of which Nigeria belongs to and all I see are hoards of black mental slaves: people who believe that Europeans, Asians and Americans are inherently better than them; people who believe that any race that isn't black is superior to the black race. People who revel in self-critiscism and self hatred; people who prefer what is foreign to what is theirs. It's a well known fact in psychology that if a person believes that someone else or a group of people are naturally better than him, maybe as a result of internalized ideas, such a person can never achieve better than this other person or group. Maybe this explains the current state of sub Sahara African. There are few factors that can explain the pathetic inferiority complex that most black people have but of the pertinent of this factors is the religion of Christianity.

No religion has stripped away the pride and identity of Black Africans like Christianity. Not only is it flawed and riddled with falsities but it reinforces these inferior notions black Africans have about themselves.

I have never seen anything as painful as millions of black people who don't even know 1/10th of their own history and don't care to, but every sunday they run off to a church to learn and memorize the history of Jews. How pathetic. There are few things that bring tears to my eyes more quickly than watching fellow black people who may not even know their own family history yet calling themselves decendants of Abraham, a Jew. Isn't this stupidity?

How can people who believe that they are the cursed decendants of a Biblical character Ham, and who believe that the God who created them, along with the supposed first two people who ever lived are white, ever think of themselves as equals to white people? How can people who regard the religion of Europeans as truth and their God as the one true God ever view themselves as anything but inferior to these people? I once read a psychological document on religion and self identity that asserted that if a person believes a God to be superior to him, he unconsciously automatically attributes that superiority to the people and place from which the religion and God originate. The behavior of black Christians in Africa really legitimizes this statement.

The reason black Africans people are regarded as inferior by racists and the likes is because they act like it. When a group of people value the belief system that was foisted upon them by their enslavers and cling to this belief system like their lives depended on it, to the point of indoctrinating their children into it and placing more emphasis on this belief system than they do on education, science, health care and their own cultural history, then they are fools and the world will regard them as fools.

It's a shameful thing for black Africans to dedicate huge portions of their lives; investing time and money into worshiping a man who was born in a roman province, into a middle eastern family and who the religion erected in his name was constructed and developed by Europeans. Only people who don't have any dignity would do such a thing.

Look at the Chinese and other south eastern Asian countries. They value their own above everything else. The Europeans and American powers may hate them, but they have respect for them, something they can never have for black africa. How can anyone respect us when we can't respect ourselves? In China more than 95% of people practice religions that emerged from that region, but only about 2.5% practice Christianity and 0.3% practice Islam and this number is waning everyday. Yet you'll see Christians in Nigeria saying that they want to take the gospel, a western religion, to China. How heartbreaking.

If the obsession of black Africans with the religion of the Europeans isn't slavery of the worst kind, I don't know what is.

Nigeria and India have the same colonial master but Indians didn't take up the religion of the colonial masters. Our own gods are idols why foreign gods are the true gods.

Toks2008:


For the sake or viewers who want to learn,...Abyss means Hell in the bible especially in the new testament and on this note, i will hang this pendulous argument.

don't go yet sir.
"for hell, the place of punishment ". Where's the fire or lake of fire? Hell doesn't always mean fire. Was Jesus not in hell for three days and three nights? was he burning in fire or was he in the lake of fire?


Acts 2:27, 31 KJV
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. [31] He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Again, pray quote the version that puts hellfire or lake of fire in Luke 8:31.

My reservation was you putting hellfire in Luke 8:31 when no version of the bible did so; the original meaning of abyss in Luke 8:31 was "deep or bottomless pit", that is all what the versions say . the premise of your article is false.

lawless land

cyclops:
nahhh btw celebs yh maybe

I don't understand how two people who love each other become enemies after getting married.

people should just stop marrying

Martinez39:
More and more nonsense. While man is working tirelessly to find the cure for cancer and AIDS, people all over the world are dying because god wants them to unravel the cures he hid in nature. He watches them die when he could have simply pointed out the cure or provided his healing power. How logical. Good day.

sometimes I feel angry when I read some people's thoughts. So god is waiting for man to discover cure for cancer while children are dying daily in children cancer ward. God likes playing hide and seek. Imagine 2 years old babies suffering from cancer while god his playing games with the researchers

Toks2008:


The way some people argue just dey tire me. Please go and do your research. Hades, Abyss, hell,lake of fir, bottomless pit are interchangeably used scripturally.

abyss means a deep or a bottomless pit. In Hebrew lexicon, it's tehom, it has nothing to do with fire. In Greek it's abussos and again, it has nothing to do with fire. Tehom(deep) was used in Genesis 1:2 and Psalm 42:7. are those places talking about Fire too?

Quote Any version of the bible that uses hell or lake of fire in Luke 8:31.

[quote author=Toks2008 post=77468341][/quote] why did you then put hellfire in the passage you quoted? abyss has nothing to do with fire.

Toks2008:
THIS IS ONE REASON WE MUST AVOID HELL AT ALL COST.

Luke 8:30-32
'' Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, “Legion”; because many demons had entered him. They continually begged Him not to command them to go into the abyss(HELLFIRE). Now a large herd of pigs was feeding there on the mountain. The demons begged Jesus to allow them to enter the pigs, and He gave them permission''

If demons can frantically beg JESUS not to send them out of a man to HELL then it must be so terrible a place that even Demons dread it. So If Demons who were never human but 100% evil spirit and by default should not fear hell dread it so much, why should we find ourselves there?

Think about it.

abyss is not hellfire

buhari needs this

The harvard senator

you said finger? it means something else o

GreatResearcher:
sorry. I thhot a snake communicated with a woman.. Maybe Lion did.

it is an allegory, it is less absurd that way

Bible

HALF OF A YELLOW SUN. Iwas expecting a mad ending

smartsk:



Fake picture. That's neither the pm nor his wife/husband �. Although he's gay. Here is the real pix

than you. when I checked too, that's not what I saw

Nobodyperson:

Then why haven't we heard any news
Why don't people just go there or why doesn't the WHO use it as the new drug for cancer!
NONESENSE

If Nigeria has found a cure for cancer through faith healing, I wonder why foreign nations keep investing millions of dollars into cancer research every year.

he stays close to work. Try and walk from Oshodi to Ajah

God always takes the glory

people dey knee for the dead guy sha. If it is catholic now, they will start shouting idol worship

do not judge. Let God judge

Banky married in 2015?

LordReed:


LoL! See dodging. Your fake god can never reveal something to you your intuition cannot already work out. Test your so called gifts of the holy ghost and see if you ever get anything close to the test I gave you. Keep believing rubbish. LMFAO!

their only gift of the hoely ghost is to catch people with fake monikers. And they are not even good at it.

Irony of life. They have a boy with this god given talent in Zamfara? Wasted talent