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68816419:
Nigga I swear with my God, Nairobi can never be compared with any top Nigeria states, reason being that , All economic activities are situated around Nairobi CBD and no where else. But in Nigeria, development are evenly distributed

Where is development evenly distributed in nigeria

samorobo:
You know if you are not aware of something it's better you just shut up and ask.
Yes nigerian airport has been the worst , no doubt about that but dis you know when that airport was completed? .
It was completed in December 2018 about the same time abuja airport was also completed

Jkia has never been named among the worst airports in Africa
But Nigeria airports have been ranked among worst airports in Africa year in year out

samorobo:
tylann are you seeing this.
Anyway I am not surprised, a country were 30 children goes missing every day should be labelled dangerous

Tylann is seeing what ?? .

samorobo:
Nonsense. Why did you chose to ignore the one point that was staring at your face. Well let me ask you again.

Why didn't you reject him as a kenyan when he supported kenya and kisumu

Where was i supporting him

68816419:
Come back any time you have something close to this in your slums capital of the world

1-2 Lakowe Lakes home Lekki
3 - Amen estate Lagos
4 - Mr. Babatunde Gbadamosi – CEO, Amen Estate

What are these ??

kikuyu1:
Dude,the funds will not be handled by Angels! After maybe 4 or 5 election cycles as we mature and discover national,county and personal roles in development,I've no problem devolving up to 50% of revenue. But,counties must also make efforts to raise own revenue not rely on gov teat!

Counties have become corruption hotbed in Kenya
We need to tame corruption in counties before giving 50% of the revenues to counties

Most governors have done absolutely nothing in their counties

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Giant of shame

1507mw for 200 million people

This is a country that cossano Says is better than kenya

cossano:
but you will agree with me that our political structure is largely for the inequality in Kenya, pre 2013, my village had never seen a tarmacked road, now we have them, we did not have even a modern market now they are there, go to oyugis and homabay towns and see how the little devolved fund are transforming the countryside, what if we could devolve 50% of the functions of national government and funds? africa is not europe, in africa politics dictates development. the sooner we get true federalism the better for us.

You also know with devolution corruption has increased in kenya
I asked you a question
Do you know what ethnic federalism has caused in Ethiopia

cossano:
are you disputing the above list?

I want the data from the govt
that says 60% of Nairobi is slums

cossano:
thats a good question, and if you been reading my posts, i haven't said lagos is heaven, but its still better than Nairobi, and if you've been reading what the Nigerians are saying, a city is not just about skycrappers, there are many things that count for a city to qualify as livable. the day Kenyan govt will build jogoo road, juja road, Mombasa road and waiyaki way to the standard of thika road and outer ring road is the day ill believe they are serious about Nairobi, plus of course the full implementation of the affordable housing schemes.

Lagos is among the worst cities in Africa
Lagos residents depend on generators for electricity
Do nairobi residents depend on generators for electricity
The govt has signed alot of deals to construct superhighways in nairobi

Waiyaki highway is under construction

cossano:
wewe ndo uko shida, hii ndo list ya nairobi ghetto halafu subtract the remaining estate uniambie ni wapi si ghetto.
kawangware
kangemi
kariobangi
kariadudu
dandora
huruma
maringo
jerusalem
ofafa
maringo
baba dogo
gomongo
mwiki
mathare
mathare slum
kibera
most of dagoretti
most part of wanye
kayole
pipeline
the mukurus
most part of eastleigh
kiambiu
mlango kubwa
deep sea.........

the list is endless and i know you know what i mean by concrete slums, some of the estate i have mentioned above makes entire constituencies, some have small pockets of middle class housing devt. like dago but mostly slums. now from the list above, can you compute the total landmass as a percentage of nairobi estates, plus the list isn't.

Show us the govt data you said

cossano:
way way better, its not even close, one of the best in the country, Kisii refferal is one of the best in the former nyanza region, feeder roads have been paved, gusii stadium is so beautiful constructed, ECDE facilities everywhere, what has the thug in Nairobi done, other than water grasses in Nairobi in the name of beautification.

Sonko is a one term governor
Ongwae is a 2 term governor

Go to pumwani hospital and see the difference
Nairobi river clean up
Drainage
Garbage collection
He has done better than dr. Kidero although peter kenneth could have done better

Kenyans your view on this

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/amp/article/2001328134/uhuru-strikes-at-the-heart-of-graft .

Kenyans your view on this

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/amp/article/2001328134/uhuru-strikes-at-the-heart-of-graft

mtisTheQubit:
Yobeez posted kisii stufff an the nigga couldnt reply back..some guys think we are stupid..Either the guy watches alot of oga movies or he definitely a Tanzanian..

He should reply what yobeezy posted first

mtisTheQubit:
ati gava ya Kenya ilisema ati 60% ya nai ni ghetto..ako kamsee shida ni nini?

He yapps alot of nonsense
Without facts and data

kikuyu1:
Does this nigga know what a PGA is??

He doesn't

Problemkid1:
You see why I said you don't have Common sense. I'm saying that, our government right as am speaking is creating jobs for the youths, they have started now, now as am talking to you. And you bringing last year to this year? Buhari has sworn in and the government are in work. You're not watching our news and you're claiming you know everything about Nigeria. How much Dept are you owning the Chinese this year. Your government borrow money from the Chinese and construct a wack railway of US3.6 Billion and use the remaining money to drink Chang'aa.

Which infrastructure do you have. Show me any ongoing projects in Kenya and I will show you double. You can't compare your currupt government with our government.

Indeed you have problems kid

Let me try again

How is your govt creating jobs
Which govt buhari is in Saudi Arabia with his Islamic brothers fasting
Has buhari even appointed cabinet ministers
Just Google infrastructure projects in Kenya

The same China is where buhari went to borrow money to pay salaries

mtisTheQubit:
The Tanzanian called cossano registered in April..He following 29 guys..27 are gals..way to go cossano..An i thought kazi was the romantic one

Bootycall i guess

He makes ridiculous statements here

How can Nigeria the world poverty capital be better than Kenya
A country that lacks stable electricity
The open defecation capital

Problemkid1:
Oga are you done typing nonsense. Because you don't know the latest news now in Nigeria. How government now has started creating jobs for the jobless citizens in the country. Our government has started working on our salaries in the country. Our government is now fighting poverty as I'm talking to you. About the Tax? I'm watching it now on the news, we're paying our tax accordingly. Our government has stick to the agriculture sector more than oil this days. Our infrastructure is moving everyday, nothing is sleeping in Nigeria? So all what you're saying is just nonsense. Just wait till 2 years and see Nigeria for you.

How is your government creating jobs
Your govt as recently as late last year borrowed money to pay salaries
Your govt is fighting poverty while poverty in Nigeria is increasing how is that even possible
Please show us your tax system
About your agriculture people are saying buhari's rice project has not achieved anything

Even Kenya's infrastructure is developing

You too just wait 2 years and you will see Kenya transformation

Problemkid1:
You're a useless person. You don't have common sense. When you guys are saying our oil are controlled by the foreigners did we say anything. When you ignorant fools are saying our Eko athletic is owned by the Lebanese, did we say anything. Now you want get mad because I said the houses is owned by the whites. Thunder fire you there.

Just name the houses owned by whites in Kenya
Then we will name foreign oil companies that control your oil
Eko Atlantic was started by a Lebanese that is a fact

Problemkid1:
It's an residential estates. It has golf course inside. It has many things inside than any other estate in Kenya did not have.

I have told you time and again

Our real estate is among the best in the world that is why your billionaires are buying homes in Kenya

Problemkid1:
And you think Nigeria don't have those ones. Do any of your estates has basketball court. Do any of your estates has children park. Do any of your estates has football filed. Please go and find one place and sit down

Poor kid you need help

Problemkid1:
To be sincere with you, you don't have an estate. All your estates are wack and crap. This is Golf estate Port Harcourt. Can any of your crap estate stand this one.

Is it an residential estate or an industrial estate
Those buildings look like warehouses

cossano:
the biggest problem with some Nigerians is that they are not very patriotic, whenever something small goes wrong in their country, they are all over the media bashing the Govt and its devt. record, maybe this is how you express your patriotism, i will never know. and i know that these kind of ranting might have prompted Kenyans to believe that we are way ahead of Nigeria and hence the creation of this thread , so now when you actually unleash the true picture of Lagos and other Nigerian cities, not the ones shown on BBC and Aljazeera, people actually are like damn i din't know Lagos has that kind of infrastructure? the beauty of life is to accept that someone is greater than you, we cannot all be equal, Kenyans lets accept that Nigeria despite all its shortcomings is still the giant of Africa, we are an emerging economy with great prospects, but trying to prove something that will never add value to your life is insanity, i use to believe also like many Kenyans that Nigeria was a lost cause, a backward society. stop getting your news from BBC, CGTN and the rest, youtube is free, take a tour of Nigeria from the comfort of your living room and maybe, just maybe you will understand that Nigeria is not our mate. its sportsmanship, asiyekubali kushindwa sio mshindani.

Argue with facts here
Show me any development index that nigeria beats kenya
Just show me one

cossano:
thank you my brother, i already enjoy the discussion here, i already feel like you are here in my living room. Tbh with you, i get pissed off when someone is trying so hard, despite the reality, he is still pushing that Nairobi is greater than Lagos, i mean what metrics do they use to justify these fallacious claims, public transport in Nairobi is hell, do they tell you how many man hours Kenyans are loosing everyday in Nairobi trying to get to work, our own Govt data says that nairobi is 60% slums, don't just think its the tin shack houses only, there are numerous concrete ghettos in nairobi with 10 by 10 rooms where sometimes more than 10 tenants share one bathroom and one toilet almost 80% of nairobi Eastland fall under this category, most nairobi estates don't even have playgronds, public primary/secondary schools, social halls, public health facilities etc, and the ones that are there were built in the 80's and you know why? the plots allocated for these projects have been grabbed, our architect body says that for nairobi to regain its former glory massive demolitions will have to be undertaken.

Does Lagos have all these facilities you are talking about

cossano:
i have already voiced my opinion to the BBI when they held there sittings here in kisii town, my take is that we go the Ethiopian way, Ethnic federalism, let every one develop at there own pace, use there resources however they wish, elect leaders they believe we deliver for them, not ethnic kings whose only objective is to run the country a ground through wanton looting of the country's meager resources. time has come for a honest restructuring of kenya, we cannot keep lying to ourselves, let those of you who want to continue electing mediocre leaders like Waititu and Sonko have your own states to do with as you wish, those of us who want to elect technocrats like Ongwae nyong'o and oparanya should also have our own states.

Ethnic federalism has caused alot of ethnic violence in Ethiopia i hope you know that

Some Kenyan leaders are jokers like waititu i don't know how he was elected anyway but mike sonko is definately better than most educated governors in kenya

cossano:
am kenyan from kisii county, don't mind them., can't you see these people just like baseless arguments? majority of them here comes from regions that are sympathetic to the status quo in my country, take whatever they tell you with a pinch of salt. look at the kind of governors they are electing to manage the so called most developed city in Africa, Nairobi, a known criminal and they expect kenya to prosper, never under the sun, no matter how loud they keep yapping here, the reality sinks in once they log off from nairaland and face the reality that is nairobi's endless traffic jam, chaotic transport sector and lack of social amenities in 70% of nairobi estates. i mean how can one elect Sonko for Nairobi Governor and expect better from this illitrate and known criminal, i weep for Nairobi and Kiambu, that is why we demand true federalism when referundum comes.

Let me ask you a question has your kisii governor performed any better than mike sonko

cossano:
my country Kenya is beautiful, no doubt about that, but every Kenyan know that just like any other sub- Saharan Africa country, our politics have really dragged us behind, someone has posted that Nairobi holds about $54 billion dollars with an economy roughly about $99 billion, can't you guys see the problem? how can one city hold about 60% of its nations wealth, what happens if Nairobi is drowned in nuclear bomb? its time real federalism is introduced in Kenya to decentralize some of these excess wealth in Nairobi. everything in Kenya is about Nairobi. political patronage and tribalism is killing Kenya. no meaningful development will ever come to Kenya with its current political structure. you got to give it to Nigeria on this one, at least every state in Nigeria you can find a billionaire and a descent capital not in my country

That is why devolution was introduced
You should hold your governor more accountable

Problemkid1:
So it's fake news now abi. Keep decieving yourself

Or western propaganda

obaaderemi:
It's a common African excuse.
If that were true then tiny Switzerland would not be richer than bigger oil rich UAE.

Stop blaming lack of mineral resources. What makes people rich the most is human resources which Africa is poor in.

Believe me uae is catching up thanks to oil

You are right what make countries rich is human resources not natural resources
But natural resources play a big role

Problemkid1:
Okay oh. But why is your country among the dangerous country to live in

Fake news