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Future generation of Yoruba - not future generation of non-Yoruba - will speak of Awolowo like they do of Plato et all.

Omoluabi16:
Rest on, the great Awo. Our dear hero. The future generations will speak of you like they do about Plato, Aristotle, R.descartes et Al.
If only they allowed him rule.. If only he wasn't cheated at the polls.

Who will oppose Nigeria's break up today? Yoruba, Ndigbo, Southern Minorities?

bilymuse:
Because no country has ever broke up amicably, there is no way Nigeria is going to brake up amicably, it going to be blood , blood, blood.

All the country surrounding Nigeria are going to be drawn into the conflict, it going to be all west Africa civil war

Totally agree with you. Igbo hatred or antagonism is the unifying band in One Nigeria.

DrGoodman:
It's the same sentiments uniting Nigeria since 1970. If there is no Igbos to hate together, Nigeria would have scattered.

Buharri got elected because the Yorubas felt that Jonathan must go, because it was said he was favoring Igbos. An Ijaw man for that matter. Forget the corruption tag he got.

Nnamdi Hero Kanu would have got a standing ovation for his messages of warnings for fulani attrocities on the south, but he is Igbo, so everyone had to love Buharri than listen to the voice of reason.

But their hate is already eating them up, it's one young Igbo doctor today and countless northerners gone.

Indeed fool!

misscall247:
wat a fool......that measures d state of a nations economy by number of ppl dat board flight

How about One million? Will that satisfy your conscience that millions died?

georgeakins:
I don't really believe that those that died were up to 3m. Where did they bury the 3m corpses?

Ibos like lying and exaggerating petty things.

"Awolowo recognized this and moved for a secession clause to be included in the new constitution BUT Nnamdi Azikiwe rejected it and even reported Awolowo to the British as a saboteur - infact he personally wrote section 86 which makes any move for secession a treasonable offense"

Question #1
Do you understand the word " rejected"? How did Azikiwe reject the inclusion of secession clause when he was not in charge of the process of determining the inclusion or rejection of the secession clause in the constitution?

Question #2
When did Zik personally write section 86?

27Pushing30:
1. We are backward because of the north … they did not want independence; the south did this from the beginning we were incompatible .

2. After enahoro moved the motion for independence in 1953… there were riots in the north with many southerners killed —- this was the first indicator that they (the north) were committed to being under British rule - Awolowo recognized this and moved for a secession clause to be included in the new constitution BUT Nnamdi Azikiwe rejected it and even reported Awolowo to the British as a saboteur - infact he personally wrote section 86 which makes any move for secession a treasonable offense!
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/04/27/flashback-why-i-opposed-awolowo-on-secession-zik/?amp=1

Funny how Azikiwe later realized his ignorance during the civil war but it was too late.

I’m telling you that based on section 86 Nigeria can never break up unless the ENTIRE south wants it and are willing to shed blood for it… not SE , SS or SW individually but the whole SOUTH as an entity .

So NO we did not request independence too early … we only had one visionary leader- Awolowo - the others were ignorant

Who are the Yoruba man who stood their grounds when Ojukwu ran off? And when did he ran off as a LovePeddler through border and which border? Can we conduct a survey to ascertain among Ndigbo whether they support your hypothesis that Ojukwu "sacrificed 3 millions of his kinsmen"

BSdetective:
Descendants of ojukwu shouldn't call men who stood their grounds cowards...... especially when ojukwu ran off disguised as a wh0re through the border after sacrificing 3mill of his dumb kinsmen as ground manure.

Who let the dog out?

SlyDev:
Greediness of Igbos and Fulani cost this innocent man his life

"the only thing that bring Northern region and Eastern religion together is their hatred for the third region, western region"

The South should have requested their own independence and allowed the North to have their own country when they are ready.

Christistruth00:
Awolowo and Azikiwe requested for independence at least 20 years too early

But they meant well
Ahmadu Bello was more realistic when he admitted that the North was not ready for independence

With hindsight even the South was not ready for independence at the time

But trading the prime minister position is not the fundamental reason why the North dominates Nigeria today

seunmsg:
Where will all these bigotry take us to in the south? Why do some of these cretins always think they can blackmail the south west? Are you guys really this senseless?

Your grandparents traded the prime minister position for an irrelevant and powerless ceremonial office. Your parents voted Shagari in 1979 and still voted for Tofa in 1993. You’ve been voting for PDP since 1999 and even voted Atiku in 2019.

You and your parents will still vote for Fulani Atiku again in 2023 so what’s the obsession with the SW political choices? Are we complaining to you? The two most important positions in the party was shared between the north and SW so why the noisy blackmail?

Are you for real?

ExplorerReturns:
so what finally ended awolowo? #20 rat poison from aba

Awolowo was a real visionary? Are you for real? Have you interrogated Awolowo's political and public life in post-Biafra Nigeria to ascertain whether he was a true visionary or Short-sighted and visionless man who sold his future and that of his kinsmen for a pot of porridge?

aribisala0:
Much has been said and written and much will for ever be said about Awolowo, the £20 pound policy and so on.

I am not here to argue abouut what is true or not true.

I am here to remind ALL YORUBAS.

We must never offer anyone any explanation or apology for what Awolowo is said to have done.

Yes there was a blockade of leading to starvation of many innocent victims. They were Ojuikus victims. I will not go any details here except to say the following

I AM VERY PROUD OF EVERYTHING PAPA AWOLOWO DID

IN FUTURE IF THE NEED ARISES WE WILL LEARN FROM AND IMPOVE UPON EVERYTHING HE DID

Certain we shall be more uncompromiing having learnt even more about our partners

Awolowo was a true visionary who gave the best advice to the youung and inexperienced Gowon on how to put Ojuiku in his box.God bless Awolowo eternally and give to Ouiku his dues.

Again Awolowo advised on the chaange of currency which invalidated the loot Ojuiku had plunderd fro the CBN in Benin and the East thus rendering Biafra bankrupt overnight

A true gentleman after the war Awolowo benevolent handed over an deserved windfall of £20 to all Biafrans even thought they had emptied their accounts before they fled and exchanged their money for the worthless Biafran pound.
Awolowo resigned in 1971 and contrary to the Eboe lies was not in offie when the Indigenisation decree was enacted or implemened

How would both benefit the average Yoruba?

Lovenorth:
Vote a compromised pastor at your own risk, Tinubu is our choice and it's sealed

I wish Biafra survived

APCLyingBastard:
This thread showed were the real revenue was generated from.

One skull miner posted here that SW produced large chunk of the Palm oil for exports.

I asked him why then was there not a Palm Oil house in Ibadan instead of Cocoa house.

Fear these Yaribansa (deceitful bastards).

" Ashawo get honour pass Buhari.... Even a dog is more honourable than Buhari... I wish you and Buhari goodluck"

A serious indictment!

toxtimmy:
What has Buhari done or achieved for a better world?..... A man that stood in front of Nigerians and told them "I promise you that no government official will go overseas for medical care as soon as I am president".... Bam before you know him don run go overseas as soon as he is voted in for medical care.

Ashawo get honour pass Buhari.... Even a dog is more honourable than Buhari... I wish you and Buhari goodluck

Thank you my brother

Rose2014:
A yoruba friend ask me: under what conditions would you support One Nigeria and let go of the Biafra struggle.

Here was my response:

1. Close down Lagos ports and Open up PH, Calabar, Onitsha and Warri.
2. Cancel all direct and major connecting flights to Lagos and Abuja airports...only local or minimal connecting flights will be allowed. While this is being done, open up Enugu, Owerri, Asaba, Uyo and PH to international flights...direct and major connecting flights.
3. Ask all international and diplomatic missions to move their embassies and consulates from Lagos and Abuja to Enugu, PH and Calabar.
4. All federal governments agencies in Lagos and Abuja shall be relocated to Enugu, PH and Calabar. CBN, NNPC,e.t.c shall and must relocate to PH, Calabar and Enugu.
5. All multinational companies in Lagos and Abuja, shall and must relocate their offices to PH, Calabar and Enugu.
6. If these conditions can be fulfilled and implemented, we can try one Nigeria and let's see if you Hausas and Yorubas will like it for a month. Meaning, Yorubas and Hausas needing to get visas shall travel to PH, Calabar or Enugu to do that. Same with flying or connecting flights, same with shipping and importing their goods, e.t.c.

The yoruba friend replied: you can't be serious, this is wickedness. I said really? Don't you think Biafrans have been suffering and enduring this very same wickedness for over 50 yrs? He was quiet for a few seconds and said: wow, you are right but it never occurred to me. I said, that's the problem with One Nigeria, those who are benefiting love it and would love to maintain the status quo

You have no job

Rossikki:
Latest estimates put the number of Igbos resident outside their region at 7 to 10 million.

Some figures go as high as 15 million.

Is the SE prepared to welcome this number of "returnees", after they are declared illegal aliens in Nigeria, and promptly deported?

Indeed you are a SOPHISTICATED slowpoke!

SlyDev:
After Tinubu 2023 - 2031, another fulani go take am complete 8 years then give am back to Yoruba. If igbo don't beg us they will never be president

Today they are suffering. Zik should be ashamed that we lost Southern Cameroun.

Onlytruth:
[size=14pt]The Cameroons Unification Revisited (1): On the Road to the Plebiscite of February 11, 1961[/size]



By Dibussi Tande

(Originally posted on the Camnet Internet forum on 11 February 1995)

Southerncameroonsmap It's [45] years to the day since the British Southern Cameroons voted, in a United Nations-sponsored plebiscite, to unify with the French Cameroons (then known as La Republique du Cameroun) to form the Federal Republic of Cameroon.

Over the years, there has been a huge amount of literature about the state and outcome of that union. This posting will not dwell on the issue but will instead  focus on some of the reservations expressed primarily in Southern Cameroons before the plebiscite. I leave it to the reader to compare the pre-plebiscite predictions to today’s realities.

Passionate Debates
The plebiscite came amidst a passionate and intense debate between the integrationists who wanted Southern Cameroons to become part of  Nigerian, and the unificationists who dreamt of a great "Pan-Kamerunian Nation" made up of the British and French Cameroons.

In spite of the numerous reassurances from President Ahidjo that unification was not about the assimilation of  Southern Cameroons, there were strident cries of protests and shrill warnings about the impending unification.

In a message to the people of Southern Cameroons a couple of weeks before the plebiscite, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, the Nigerian Prime Minister, pointed out to them that they were being asked to choose between "certainty and security:  an honorable status as an integral part of a big country", or assimilation by a country with an alien culture and a government which had made no clear promises to the people of  the British Cameroon:

    "If you vote against Nigeria, I cannot see how you can avoid living a life of poverty, hardship and under the constant shadow of violence, " he warned.

This view was shared by many in the Southern Cameroons, including a leading newspaper "Cameroon Champion", which described Southern Cameroon Prime Minister Foncha’s obsession with the utopic bilingual Cameroon federation where Southern Cameroons will "finally be free" as "Foncha's false Jerusalem" in its Feb. 8, 1961 issue.

Even in La Republique du Cameroun which really had nothing to lose from the whole deal, there were many who believed strongly that unification was uncalled for. Writing in a local paper, a native of Ntem Division in the Centre Province asked a fundamental question that is still relevant to this day:

    Qu'elle avantage y' a-t-il a demander la réunification des deux Cameroun si, a première vue, nous devons considérer nos frères Bamiléké et Bassa comme des étrangers dans notre propre département?  Dans quelle catégorie rangerions-nous un Camerounais originaire du Cameroun Britannique si nous nous considérons nous-mêmes comme des ennemis et si le simple fait de dire Bassa ou Bamileke dans le Ntem devient (, ) un crime méritent la mort?

However, the direst prediction about the outcome of the union between the British and French Cameroons was made by the Southern Cameroons leader of opposition and the territory's first Premier, Dr. EML ENDELEY. This prediction, which basically promised Southern Cameroons fire and brimstone in the event of  the “Kamerun option” winning the day, was contained in a Cameroon Peoples National Convention (CPNC) pamphlet published on the eve of the plebiscite. Endeley’s CNPC described the message as "eternal evidence of the full note of WARNING that is being sounded in good time to all Cameroon people before they make their historic choice of February 11." Excerpts of this document are available in another posting.

On February 11, 1961, the people of Southern Cameroons went to the polls to choose between two options:

    (a) Do you wish to achieve independence by joining the independent Federal Republic of Nigeria?
    or
    (b) Do you wish to achieve independence by joining the independent Republic of Cameroon?

Endeley’s dire warnings failed to sway voters and Prime Minister John Ngu Foncha’s pro-unification KNDP carried the day. Southern Cameroonians voted overwhelmingly (70,49%) to achieve independence by joining La Republique du Cameroun while Northern Cameroons, which also took part in the plebiscite, opted for remaining as a part of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

According to Francis Wache (Cameroon Life Magazine, March 1991), as soon as it became obvious that Foncha's "Pan-Kamerunist" option had won the day,

    ,  a song rippled through the grassfields surpassable only, perhaps, by the dry season fires in the area: The chant ran:

    Foncha has walloped Endeley
    Foncha has walloped Endeley
    If Foncha hadn't been there
    Endeley would have sold us.

However, close to a century later, the pan-Kamerunian dream had become a nightmare for the people of Southern Cameroons.  As Wache points out in the same CamLife article,

    Today, thirty years after the event, a song is being hummed through the length and breadth of the Western shore of the Mungo:

    Because Foncha trounced Endeley
    Because Foncha trounced Endeley
    If Foncha had not trounced Endeley
    We wouldn't have been sold."

John Ngu Foncha, the "architect of the unification" did not challenge this view at the twilight of his life as evidenced by his 1990 letter of resignation from the ruling CPDM, by his heart-wrenching mea culpa at the 1993 All Anglophone Conference in Buea, and by his little-known statement to the 1994 Constitutional Consultative Commission, excerpts of which are available in another posting.

http://www.dibussi.com/2006/02/the_cameroons_u.html

I have a question for you:

Q#1: Why did Yoruba military align with the Northerners to fight for One Nigeria?

Q#2: Why did Yoruba political leadership align with the Northerner to fight for One Nigeria?

Q#3: Why didn't Yoruba military revenge the murder of Fajuyi by Northern solders?

Q#4: Why didn't Yoruba military insist on Ogundipe as the next-in-line to Ironsi for the position of Head of State?

Q#5: What was the political objective of Northern-led military government in fighting against Biafra to keep Nigeria one?

christistruth01:
Do you understand what it means for a Military leader to loose 3 million Precious Souls

If Ojukwu was a Yoruba Monarch of Old he would have been made to pay the ultimate price for Far less a Calamity

His Chiefs and Subjects would have politely asked him to go to Sleep in the interest of the Kingdom


The issue of Ojukwu fleeing to Ivory Coast would not even arise

Buhari is better. At least, he does engage in deceitful and self-serving pontification

GoodHardDick:
As usual.
Always dishing out motivational quotes. Man is a complete failure just like Buhari

What is good about this? Can you show me a federal system where the center approves capital project fund for an airport that should be owned by the state.

CryptoTeacher:
Good move

You are absolutely right. He lacks intellectual capacity to debunk a twisted lie talk less a natural fact. I pointed the same reality to him.

Idiko1:
You do not have intellectual capacity to debunk a twisted lie talk less a natural fact.

Your response is a symptom of a man inherently lacking the intelligence and empirical evidence to engage in rigorous intellectual debate. Your statement, " There's no use debunking something that's evidently a lie twisted to suit the narratives of a certain group" is a study in cognitive dissonance. You brand a viewpoint as a twisted lie and yet you reject the opportunity to debunk it and prove indeed that it is a twisted lie. So how do we objectively and empirically prove your claim that it is a twisted lie? I guess the answer is because you said it. Again, l asked you if you are Yoruba, but you refused to answer the question. I only engage Yoruba commentators online.

JohnSin97:
There's no use debunking something that's evidently a lie twisted to suit the narratives of a certain group.....even without history the actions and attitudes of nyamiris speak for itself.

Your response is a symptom of a man who lacks the intelligence and empirical evidence to engage in rigorous intellectual debate. Your statement, " There's no use debunking something that's evidently a lie twisted to suit the narratives of a certain group" is a study in cognitive dissonance. You brand a viewpoint as a twisted lie and yet you reject the opportunity to debunk it. Again, l asked you if you are Yoruba, but you refused to answer the question. I only engage Yoruba commentators online.

Q#1: How did Azikiwe support the removal of secession clause from the constitution?

Q#2: Was Azikiwe or Britain in charge of deciding what is allowed and disallowed in the constitution?

Q#3: If Awolowo who canvassed for the inclusion of secession clause was sincere and serious about this issue, why didn't he insist on separate independence for Western Region so as to avoid a future situation where Yoruba was incapable of liberating themselves in a problem-riddled post-independent Nigeria?

Q#4: If Awolowo canvassed for the inclusion of secession clause in the independent constitution which was rejected by the British colonists, why didn't he support the secession of Eastern Nigeria in May 1967 which implemented and birthed his rejected prophetic recommendation?

Q#5: Why the contradiction in passionately seeking for secession clause in 1956 and passionately fighting against the same secession when it came to pass in 1967?

Ereolamide:
Your wish should have been travelling back in time to dissuade Azikwe from campaigning and supporting the removal of secession clause from our constitution, the north has never masked their hatred for Igbos or southerners, in fact in the 1940s they slaughtered Igbos like ram, but Azikwe infinite greed and quest to rule over Nigeria were the sources of suffering of millions down south.

I still wonder why most of you blame northerners as one nigerianist while you absolve Azikwe of his disposition towards the same goals.

Go back to your hole where you rightly belong. Ojukwu did not abandon Biafra. His contesting for Nigeria presidency does not negate his fight for the issues which led to Biafra. Have the issues that caused the war addressed? Have they not meta sized into cancer that is eating up Nigeria?

thesicilian:
There're 2 sets of Igbo people: those going about their businesses diligently everyday, and those creating nuisances everywhere in the name of a fictional country.

Even the Mighty Ojukwu himself who originated the idea of Biafra, later abandoned the idea when he saw how futile it is and decided to contest for the presidency of Nigeria.

Are so consumed with Igbo hatred that injecting Ndigbo in this issue is the most important thing your brain can come up with you

triple996:
Kpurumirs won't sleep well 2day
Say no to cannibalism, kpurumiri and rampant stupidity

How did you arrive to the conclusion that Igbo hate Tinubu? Is it the entire, majority or minority of Ndigbo that hate Tinubu?
Your post did not zero on it so please flesh out your claim. Thanks!

SlyDev:
I want Igbo to come out and tell me why they hate Tinubu? Can they enjoy the level of freedom in Yoruba when they go to the North? Why are you always on Yoruba neck?

The average Yoruba is not a core believer in equity, fairness and justice. Rather, he is a shifty believer. He only mouths it and fights for it when his interest is at stake. If it requires sacrificing these ideals to feather his nest - even if such benefit is ephemeral and detrimental to his long-term interest- he will throw them out of the window without battling an eyelid.

That was the mindset that informed Awolowo's participation in Gowon's war cabinet even though he publicly declared his aversion to war and intention to take the Western Region and Lagos out of Nigeria if East secedes. You know what happened after the Eastern region seceded

franchasng:
Listen my dear, if you and your people are honest to yourselves, Yorubas were pacified in 1999 after Abiola saga. All the politicians that played keyroles then have come out to affirm this, even some few honorable Yoruba leaders and elites have come out publicly on media to say 2023 should be micro zoned to the Southeast as a way of unifying Nigeria and pacifying Igbos for a long standing political marginalization since the end of the civil war.



Unity, equity, empathy and love should prevail first before any criminal politician's political ambition.




Just sit back and ask yourself if it were Igbos that produced Head of State from 1976 to 1979, produced President from 1999 to 2007, produced Vice President from 2015 to 2023, now agitating to produce President again in 2023. Imagine what your people and other Nigerians will be saying about Igbos?


The whole media houses would have been on fire by now with calling Igbos every unprintable names.



Be sincere to yourselves

I did a quick check on your postings, and they were all Ndigbo-obsessed. Are you Yoruba? I would have expected you to invalidate his views with evidence-driven points. You only made a vacuous statement, " Nyamiri revisionists at work again.... Achebe tried it, but died a miserable old fool in a foreign land"

The ball is in your court. Debunk his positions with empirical evidence.

JohnSin97:
Nyamiri revisionists at work again.....Achebe tried it, but died a miserable old fool in a foreign land.