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Your response is a symptom of a man inherently lacking the intelligence and empirical evidence to engage in rigorous intellectual debate. Your statement, " There's no use debunking something that's evidently a lie twisted to suit the narratives of a certain group" is a study in cognitive dissonance. You brand a viewpoint as a twisted lie and yet you reject the opportunity to debunk it and prove indeed that it is a twisted lie. So how do we objectively and empirically prove your claim that it is a twisted lie? I guess the answer is because you said it. Again, l asked you if you are Yoruba, but you refused to answer the question. I only engage Yoruba commentators online.

JohnSin97:
There's no use debunking something that's evidently a lie twisted to suit the narratives of a certain group.....even without history the actions and attitudes of nyamiris speak for itself.

Your response is a symptom of a man who lacks the intelligence and empirical evidence to engage in rigorous intellectual debate. Your statement, " There's no use debunking something that's evidently a lie twisted to suit the narratives of a certain group" is a study in cognitive dissonance. You brand a viewpoint as a twisted lie and yet you reject the opportunity to debunk it. Again, l asked you if you are Yoruba, but you refused to answer the question. I only engage Yoruba commentators online.

Q#1: How did Azikiwe support the removal of secession clause from the constitution?

Q#2: Was Azikiwe or Britain in charge of deciding what is allowed and disallowed in the constitution?

Q#3: If Awolowo who canvassed for the inclusion of secession clause was sincere and serious about this issue, why didn't he insist on separate independence for Western Region so as to avoid a future situation where Yoruba was incapable of liberating themselves in a problem-riddled post-independent Nigeria?

Q#4: If Awolowo canvassed for the inclusion of secession clause in the independent constitution which was rejected by the British colonists, why didn't he support the secession of Eastern Nigeria in May 1967 which implemented and birthed his rejected prophetic recommendation?

Q#5: Why the contradiction in passionately seeking for secession clause in 1956 and passionately fighting against the same secession when it came to pass in 1967?

Ereolamide:
Your wish should have been travelling back in time to dissuade Azikwe from campaigning and supporting the removal of secession clause from our constitution, the north has never masked their hatred for Igbos or southerners, in fact in the 1940s they slaughtered Igbos like ram, but Azikwe infinite greed and quest to rule over Nigeria were the sources of suffering of millions down south.

I still wonder why most of you blame northerners as one nigerianist while you absolve Azikwe of his disposition towards the same goals.

Go back to your hole where you rightly belong. Ojukwu did not abandon Biafra. His contesting for Nigeria presidency does not negate his fight for the issues which led to Biafra. Have the issues that caused the war addressed? Have they not meta sized into cancer that is eating up Nigeria?

thesicilian:
There're 2 sets of Igbo people: those going about their businesses diligently everyday, and those creating nuisances everywhere in the name of a fictional country.

Even the Mighty Ojukwu himself who originated the idea of Biafra, later abandoned the idea when he saw how futile it is and decided to contest for the presidency of Nigeria.

Are so consumed with Igbo hatred that injecting Ndigbo in this issue is the most important thing your brain can come up with you

triple996:
Kpurumirs won't sleep well 2day
Say no to cannibalism, kpurumiri and rampant stupidity

How did you arrive to the conclusion that Igbo hate Tinubu? Is it the entire, majority or minority of Ndigbo that hate Tinubu?
Your post did not zero on it so please flesh out your claim. Thanks!

SlyDev:
I want Igbo to come out and tell me why they hate Tinubu? Can they enjoy the level of freedom in Yoruba when they go to the North? Why are you always on Yoruba neck?

The average Yoruba is not a core believer in equity, fairness and justice. Rather, he is a shifty believer. He only mouths it and fights for it when his interest is at stake. If it requires sacrificing these ideals to feather his nest - even if such benefit is ephemeral and detrimental to his long-term interest- he will throw them out of the window without battling an eyelid.

That was the mindset that informed Awolowo's participation in Gowon's war cabinet even though he publicly declared his aversion to war and intention to take the Western Region and Lagos out of Nigeria if East secedes. You know what happened after the Eastern region seceded

franchasng:
Listen my dear, if you and your people are honest to yourselves, Yorubas were pacified in 1999 after Abiola saga. All the politicians that played keyroles then have come out to affirm this, even some few honorable Yoruba leaders and elites have come out publicly on media to say 2023 should be micro zoned to the Southeast as a way of unifying Nigeria and pacifying Igbos for a long standing political marginalization since the end of the civil war.



Unity, equity, empathy and love should prevail first before any criminal politician's political ambition.




Just sit back and ask yourself if it were Igbos that produced Head of State from 1976 to 1979, produced President from 1999 to 2007, produced Vice President from 2015 to 2023, now agitating to produce President again in 2023. Imagine what your people and other Nigerians will be saying about Igbos?


The whole media houses would have been on fire by now with calling Igbos every unprintable names.



Be sincere to yourselves

I did a quick check on your postings, and they were all Ndigbo-obsessed. Are you Yoruba? I would have expected you to invalidate his views with evidence-driven points. You only made a vacuous statement, " Nyamiri revisionists at work again.... Achebe tried it, but died a miserable old fool in a foreign land"

The ball is in your court. Debunk his positions with empirical evidence.

JohnSin97:
Nyamiri revisionists at work again.....Achebe tried it, but died a miserable old fool in a foreign land.

God bless your mum. She's the most smartest woman on earth. I csme from a lower-middle class family and grew upnin Festac Towon in the 80s and 90s. Till today, l wished l hawked while growing up. It would have unleashed my enterprenuel life in my teenage years which would have impacted my adult life at an early age.

Kudos to your mum!

Awoleesu:
I was raised by elite parents but Mom believed a lil exposure to the street was good especially for the male child. So, she made us hawk a few wares... From ice blocks (kankara) during Ramadan to boiled corn. I remembered how she'd drive us in her posh 504 SR sedan then into the Army barracks. The people watching with interest as we alight from the clean, air conditioned car and head into the barracks, street after street, basin on head and screaming "BUY SWEET CORN"!


What a life back then! But it paid off as I owe my present business acumen to those rough, little beginnings...
Plus, hawking helped my self confidence and has helped me withstand and overcome the effect of rejection.

Awesome!

freedomchild:
I hawked satchet water during my primary school days, around 2000 on the streets of Aba, Abia state. I was in primary 4 then till I wrote my first school leaving.
I moved to hawking sliced water melon during my holidays because I was a boarder as a secondary school student. Then I later sold Ghana-must-go back from my SS2 in 2006 till I wrote SSCE in 2008. My younger brother also had his share of the hawking world(satchet water, cooked corn and sliced pine apples).
But today I'm a pharmacist, 30 years and doing well for myself. My younger brother now is a ship navigator moving from one country to another at 29 years. He just passed his licencing exam as a sea man last year. We're now taking care of our siblings and ageing parents.. I'm the first child and the first son of 5 children

To God be the glory

Please can you share your story. I never hawked but l wished l did while growing up. Those who hawked because their parents could not nake ends meet easily were actually imbibing life lessons and skilms that will benefit them in future. They were actually but unknowingly entreprenuers who got exposed to the power of owning and managing a business. Majority of them became successful early in life than their friends whose parents had everything set up for them.

Lets here your experience.

900warriorz:
Well, I'm still that plantain boy,
but na me be the pikin wey dey give him mama joy;
many people see me as a useless boy but thank God today I'm a very big boy,
and not just a big boy, but a very rich boy

If you hear my story, you no go wish me to fail for life..

May God bless every legit hustlers out there....It was never easy

You are ahistorical - drunkenly and giddilyahistorical.

davodyguy:
If greed didn't push ojuiku to war, then no one would ha é been starved. Before the war were people starved to death? After the war were people starved to death?

So, without one man starting the war, no one would have been starved

He is even worse than Buhari?

Mobi47:
And Osibanjo is an accomplice....Many are still clamouring to make osibanjo the next president. I don't think Nigerians are ready to have a better country.

Can you give me evidence-based economic reasons why you think Igbos can't stand on their own without minorities? What is your nationality

LILTJAY1:
Igbos know they can't stand on their own without the minorities
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

WHY DID YORUBA REALLY FIGHT THE WAR?

YorubaHero12:
Lol, you Igbo chestbeater do not cease to amaze me. So you think Biafra fought alone against Nigeria lol. There are lot of mercenaries employed by Biafra during the war and a lot of countries supported you guys too.

Infact when they saw that you guys are being killed like chicken and Ojukwu kept fighting without direction even while seeing his kinsmen dying like fowl they had to raise the issue in the UN hence why they always term the war genocide due to the high mortality rate.

Nigeria forces commanded by the brave Yorubas ended the war through force and strategic planning. You have to learn a lot from the superior Yoruba tribe and that is diplomacy, restraint, and tactical approach to situations.

A coward is not a person that is slow to anger, a coward is a person that started a war with propaganda, whose action led to the massacre of his tribesmen in their million and who fled with his tail behind his legs when the war raged on after realizing he has been defeated ideologically and physically, of course I’m talking of Ojukwu of unblessed memory. He is a true definition of a COWARD

You don't have to post on issues above your paygrade. Silence can be golden!

ipobcannibals:
I know you’re a brainless Ipob bingo, one that is eternally doomed to reason via his ‘anular cavity’.
I don’t have time to read all the gibberish you typed here. The fact that you’re right doesn’t mean or translate that you will win a fight,,,, this was what cardinal Arinze told some brainless Ipob members in Rome.
Yes, Ojukwu was right in asking for the maintenance of the military hierarchy, but the reality was that the other three regions have agreed to come under the command of British-backed-Gowon government and Ojukwu could have seen the reality and save the lives of easterners, by extension, Igbo lives, by avoiding that war.
Today, your suplim reader is begging for his life after shouting biaflaud or death and wasting Igbo lives again. When are you going to join the ESN cannibals in the bush and fight for biaflaud?

The present Yoruba are savvy, yet they voted and revoted for a Fulani irredentist and ethnic bigot named Buhari.

The Present day Yoruba man is more savvy than the Awos, they will never be used and dumped as Awo was by the North. Modern day Yoruba race must have learnt from Awo's betrayal and will never give the North Access to the Ocean anymore. The West has to root out people like Tinubu and Tunde Bakare from their political equation and Unite with the rest of the Southerners to get the haramic North from our progressive new found country of Southern Nigeria-A land of milk, honey,Oil and gas, but if they chose not to, America and Russia needs our Oil, and if we have Russia and America behind us, who can be against us?

Totally agreewith you!

9javoice1:
There was a country is a book writen by great Prof Chinua Achebe, a personal account on biafran nigeria war .

the response:
1- too many yoruba's (elites, fools, chiefs, almajiri's, politicians and agbero's) has reponded to the book.
and they will not stop responding till next 3 yrs.

2- few northerners respond to it.
3- very few igbo's respond to it.

question: why were the yoruba's going gaga every week in media and dailies responding to that (bomb)truth?
answer: because the name awolowo and yoruba appered in the said book.

Q: what is realy the point yorubas are making, are they involved in the war or not?
A: if you say they are involved and play a major role, yorubas will deny it and swear with blood of their great grand fathers,
if you say they were not involved, yoruba's will troop to media houses and buy megaphone and shouts how involved they are and major roles they play.
www.osundefender.org/?p=35997 and see as FFK and Alhaji Usman Faruk in war of words about who win the war.

Q: can we trust people who always go with "yes and no" "i will and i will not" same time?
A: nobody will trust such a man it wont take long for his new friend to find out who he is and dump him for a better patner.

Which Igboman? CBN governor is a monumental failure.

FarmWay:
This Igbo man is the grace in this callous junta we are in at present in this country...

















Give Igbo man a to rule Nigeria and see massive transformation

The average Yorubaman and ahistorism. Biafra did not declare war on Nigeria. It was Nigeria that declared war on Biafra.

Biodun556:
How could some people declare war on their perceived enemy and still be blaming the enemy for not giving them food?

Is Nigerian government not God fearing enough to be supplying food to those who took up arms against them?

Thank you my brother!

olabrad:
Then corruption during Jonathan days wasn't the fault of Jonathan, but that of every Nigerian, including Buhari, el Rufai, Femi Adesina, you, etc.

Why cry more than the bereaved?

gidgiddy:
The mentality of the average Northerner is really strange for me as an Igbo man. What this man is trying to say properties and investments are more important than freedom and sovereignty. So because Igbos are found all over Nigeria, have investments everywhere, they are not entitled to seek their own separate country?

Why is he so concerned about if Igbos will suffer if they secede? Why is he hell bent on "one Nigeria"? It no secret that the average Northerner does not like the Igbo man so why do you want to remain in one country with people you have no love for?

The Northerners are not fooling anyone. The only reason they want Igbos in Nigeria is because they have come to see Nigeria as their private property and Igbos are their slaves, they are not willing to lose that property.

If Northerners start talking about Arewa Republic tomorrow, most Igbos wont even give a damn. In fact, Igbos like me will throw party that they want to go their way.

But if Igbos talk about Biafra, Northerners will start shouting "they will suffer", "they will lose their property", "we will send them home", "one Nigeria for life"

I tire for these people

Awolowo was used and dumped by Gowon and his Northern military.

WetinConsignMe:
EVIDENCE

It is instructive that the Yoruba who were lily-livered and capitulated to Northern hijack of power and humiliation of Yoruba military officers' brand Ojukwu - who rejected Northern hijack of power and fought for 3 years to defeat Northern oligarchy - a coward while elevating Yoruba military officers who accepted unchallenged the rule of Northerners as patriots and courageous men.

attackgat:
Well at least he fought for three years before running away.

You guys ran away from Northerners even before any fight even started

You are no prophet and stop engaging in self-deception. The activities of Niger-Delta activist is not responsible for the localization of oil companies HQS in Lagos State/Yorubaland. It was a post-civil war policy implemented by Awolowo to benefit his kinsmen and region

jrusky:
I warned you guys then but some people attacked me I'm a prophet with no church building bcus anything I say must surely come to pass sooner or later go back to my post during the heated militancy era its their boldly that I said "though the oil companies had depleted the environment badly and the course of these struggle is about fair share of oil dividend and improving the environment for livelihood which is absolutely correct and worth fighting for as Saro Wiwa wanted" but it was hijacked and militancy turned it to money making oil ridge and I said giung these way you will one day be begging those companies to return because you have compromised your stand on the real course of these struggle, now here we are.

Same way I'm warning my people about ipigs authoritarian approach naturally average Nigerian lack mental capacity to stay on course when they sense they have an edge over others they will use that slight edge to bully and suppress other and if allow to stand they will be touching everything and want to force entire lineage to obey them or suffer so they can be seen as Emperor. Look at Moham+mad of Boko Haram bitch, look at Kanu and his ipigs, look at Turji the f u c King bastard etc. Watch, the next order from ipigs is loading.......come back here and quote me then.

Gragra is not always a solution to some problems and if you are going to use gragra don't let money or acquiring weather be your motive orelse you will lost the game.

When will the age of oil over? Countries are still reaping billions from oil. So the age of oil, an inescapable reality, is still many years ahead

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
The age of oil is over all over the world it is the same look at Saudi Arabia and Iran two sworn enemies are now coming together to talk peace because the age of oil is over oil is 3 times more expensive to produce than green energy

But millions of your kinsmen, if you are Yoruba, voted for him

ablejesus26:
I have got a son who is going to be 12 very soon and I perceive him intelligent enough to call what is wrong, wrong and what's right, right.

Bubu is a failure,it berates all mental comprehensive deduction why an adult like you can't come to terms with such obvious truth.

ABIOLA IS SQUIRMING IN HIS GRAVE

Maxymilliano:
At this rate, Tinubu will visit the devil to seek endorsement and express permission to contest .

Clown !

Awesome

EmmaJnr1:
EASTERNERS ARE UNDER MANIPULATION

At times we might not understand it if we don't think deeply and ask some crucial questions.

We are being manipulated. I mean we in the East. We are all being manipulated. Are you Igbo, Ijaw, Efik, Ibibio, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ogoni or whatever you call yourself, know it that you have been under manipulation for the past 51 years. You are not from South East, South South or Niger Delta. You are from the East. You are only being manipulated to think otherwise.

The Manipulation

Whatever is happening today is Britain using the Fulani to manipulate you. Far it be from me that I am blaming others for our woes, but the truth is that if you don't know of this manipulation, you cannot gain freedom.
This manipulation started during the genocide they called the Nigeria Biafra civil war.

The East has been under manipulation till this very day. No doubt, the East has been great in themselves. Whatever they touch turns to gold. In conquering the black man Britain found a stumbling block from the East. From the time of slave trade to the colonization era, the East never gave Britain a breathing space. Britain knows that for them to hold the East down they have to find a way to manipulate them.

Opportunity came with the war. Don't forget that the war of 1967 wouldn't have taken place if not for Britain. Britain wanted the war. The war is so much needed for the manipulation to work. They are so much in need of the resources in the East.
When Yakubu Gowon and Odumegwu Ojukwu met at Aburi Ghana and agreed to set aside every hostilities and become a confederate state, it didn't go down well with Britain who desperately needed the war.
Using British Broadcasting Cooperation (BBC) Britain mounted a campaign against the Aburi agreement, stating that at last Gowon has bowed down to Ojukwu. The implication of this statement is that Northern Nigeria has bowed down to Biafra. For Gowon represented Nigeria while Ojukwu stands for Biafra. This hurted the ego of the North (Nigeria) and infuriated them. The North in a meeting refused to adhere to the agreement. Rather they instructed Yakubu Gowon to divide Nigeria into 12 states. On 27 May 1967, Gowon proclaimed the division of Nigeria into twelve states. This decree carved the Eastern Region in three parts: South Eastern State, Rivers State, and East Central State. It was Gowon on the stage, but Britain in the background. With this division Gowon destroyed the regional government.

To this effect, the Eastern Consultative Assembly made up of elders from every part of the East voted for the East to secede from Nigeria. They demanded that Odumegwu Ojukwu declare Biafra a Republic. In obedience to the wishes of the people, on 30 May 1967, Ojukwu declared independence of the Republic of Biafra. As expected, Biafra came under attack by Nigeria Army. The war began on the early hours of 6 July 1967 when Nigerian Federal troops advanced in two columns into Biafra. With this Britain staged the decimation of the Igbo and their other cousins. It is worthy to note that the East prior to the war has been in charge of lots of offices in Nigeria. This was made possible due to their early embrace of education.

With the help of Britain and other world powers, Nigeria inflicted heavy causality on Biafra. Millions of Biafrans mostly women and children died. It was estimated that about 3.5million Biafrans died in that senseless war of Nigeria unity.

The war ended in 1970 with the Biafrans led by Philip Effiong surrendering to Nigeria. After the physical war, another unseen war started. And that is the manipulation of the Eastern people.

During the the war, Nigeria government perfected a successful plan that divided the East. Nigeria military started attacking the coastal Regions wearing Biafran Army Uniform and speaking Igbo during those attacks. Lots of Coastal Biafrans that survived the attack heard the attackers speak Igbo and till this very day, they still tell stories on how Igbo people wanted to wipe them out during the war. This is a high profile manipulation.
No one asked how a people suffering extermination will have time to wipe off their own brothers. No one asked if there has ever been any attempt previously by the Igbo to attack or expel their neighbours from their lands. No one asked how possible it will be for a people that lack weapons to waste it on their fellow brothers. No one cared to think deep and ask how Philip Effiong will be a second in command and his people will be wiped out by the same Army he commands. And to cap it all, he didn't speak about it. Are coastal brothers not in the Biafra Army? These are the necessary questions that will neutralize these lies that have been told over the last 51 years.

The seed of discord sown by the Nigeria government during the Civil War made it possible for the East to be fragmented. The Igbo became the worse enemies of most Ijaw, Efik, Ogoni etc. They see the Igbo as rivals. Some of them out of deep ignorance have proclaimed how it is better to live with the Fulani than the Igbo. With this mentality, the Fulani won. They took advantage, owned the oil, controls it and left the people with nothing, other than polluted environment, not good for agriculture.

The Fulani also divided the Igbo into many parts. They included Igbo people into the North and South South. They manipulated people into thinking that Igbo people are only in South East, while the Igbo people that fell into other regions started denying being Igbo. The Fulani frustrated anyone bold enough to answer Igbo after the war, which necessitated the denial. Asaba, Ikwere, Onitsha, Etche, Ogwashiukwu, Ika man will tell you how he is not Igbo. Those singing this shameful songs of denial will always be favored by the Fulani.

Betrayal Become A Lucrative Business In The East.

Those that led Biafra during the time of the war was the most trusted men the Easterners respects so much. They are men of integrity and patriots who will rather die than betray their own people. Men like Chinua Achebe, Akanu Ibiam, Odumegwu Ojukwu etc.
Nigeria government removed these men from office and started employing men that are ready to betray their own people.
Gradually, it became an act of foolishness and stupidity to stand for the people in the East. If you are not a puppet of the Fulani, you will not be appointed into any office in Nigeria. They encouraged these men to openly stand against their own people. They made them rich, influential and powerful that ordinary people started worshiping them. Remember the Igbo saying that says 'onye bu igu ka Ewu n'eso?' This is how almost everyone in the corridors of power in the East started becoming sycophants and hypocrites in other to make it. This is exactly how we got the leaders we have today. Leaders who will bring Pythons to kill their own youths. Leaders who will refuse to constitute security group for their own people, just to please the Fulani. Men who is so afraid of the Fulani to the extent that they will support the massacre of their own youths for protesting in a country Fulani herdsmen terrorists are pampered and Boko Haram terrorists recruited into the Army.

These manipulations made the Igbo, Ijaw Efik etc to loose focus. All the leaders in the East needed is to be loyal to the Fulani and they can loot and squander our collective resources the way they want. If you complain about the lack of federal government presence in the East, Northerners will remind you of your governors and how they are squandering the resources. It is just manipulation. They use them and yet blame them for your woes.

Since after the war, never a time have the East worked together to develop the East. There is zero plan by the Eastern leaders of today to liaise with each others to develop the entire East. It is just squandering and obedience to the Fulani as to escape persecution and prosecution. The Fulani only goes after anyone against them and standing for the people. The Fulani have the power to remove an elected Governor and replace him with their puppet. This is exactly why Emeka Ihedioha is not governor today.

This manipulation has effected every aspect of our lives in the East. Today, police men will love to be posted to the East because they make more illegal monies in the East than any other part of Nigeria. They know that the East is a police state. They are the marginalised part and got no right. So once you are arrested or confronted, you pay them and go with your goods. This has made life difficult in the East.

An Igbo in governor will do everything possible to safeguard his position through loyalty to the Fulani. He will rather employ unqualified HausaFulani into the government, than employ his qualified Eastern brothers. Those that are ignorant of the manipulation going on will never understand. They will rather say WE DON'T LOVE OURSELVES. You are just under manipulation.

Any Eastern Leader speaking against the marginalisation of the East in Nigeria will be witch haunted. Almost all the federal roads in the East are bad, yet no governor will ever complain. Parts of the East are polluted due to oil spillage, yet non of them is speaking for their own people. Some that fights for the people will be given contracts to shut them up.
If you speak up, a case will be opened for you in the court and you will surely be disgraced out of office.

You are from the East in Nigeria, you are not free. You are manipulated to hate yourselves and work against each other. It is only when you realise this, that you can work towards your freedom.

If you ask me, I will say that only the restoration of Biafra will break the stronghold of the Fulani on our people.

Elochukwu Ohagi, Philosopher, Teacher And Activist, 2021.

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