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The are like Siamese twins

DennisEche:
AFONJA AND HUMAN PARTS .... THE HEADSLAMMING CORPSE ARE THE MOST AFFECTED. BECAUSE TO DIG 6FIT CHRISTIANS CORPSE GO HARD

Indeed you are SOPHISTICATED slowpoke!

Gazzy88:
Anything ibos does today, Yoruba has done and left it years ago. This people are fighting the reality that yorubas are miles ahead of them. They are doing everything possible to pull us down so they can take our place but the more they try, the harder it gets for them. Anything or anyone that stands against their agenda to dominate Yorùbás, they strive to hate and ridicule it.

They don't just hate tinubu for hating sake, they hate him because he has Lagos in his pockets which doesn't go well with ibos. They hate the whole yorubas cos Lagos falls on our laps and ibos find it difficult to admit the reality.

DID NIGERIANS IN LONDON ALL LEAVE BRITAIN FOR NIGERIA WHEN NIGERIA WAS FIGHTNG BRTIAN FOR INDEPENDENCE?

AWO went to London for his legal education and sent his son to London for higher education while fighting Britain for Nigeria's independence. The level of your reasoning is atrocious. No wonder the black man is regarded as intellectually inferior to the white man. By the way in 1967, Lagos-Ibadan expressway and Lagos-Abẹ́òkúta expressway was busy with vehicular activities conveying all ibos back to the east' after which they declared Biafra. We left your God-forsaken Yorubaland. You went to war to kill us and force us back to Nigeria. Have you apologized to us for forcing us back before you now want us to repeat the same thing?

You can't even write simple correct English. You write proper nouns in small caps. TUFIAKWA!

Gazzy88:
We've been waiting for that day when Lagos-Ibadan expressway and Lagos-abẹ́òkúta expressway will be busy with vehicular activities conveying all ibos back to the east so we can close the gate at ore on you when the last vehicle cross.

STOP ADVERTIZING YOUR IGNORANCE. CORRUPTION IS NOT NIGERIA'S PROBLEM - BUT A HUMAN PROBLEM. ALL THE COUNTRIES WITH THOSE BEAUTIFUL INFRASTRUCTURES ARE MORE CORRUPT THAN NIGERIA.

God1000:
Corruption has dealt us a heavy blow in this country, Nigeria is the only country that retrogresses every year, no progress since 1960.

I don't know when this ugly circle will end.

USELESS SW APC GOVERNORS WHO SOLD THEIR BIRTHRIGHT - YORUBA LIBERATION - FOR A MESS OF POTTAGE

SmartPolician:
This is how sane minds should be thinking, not comparing Sanwo-Olu to one voice-cracked thug who uses machete to address his audience.

What happened yesterday is enough for the Southern governors to push for state police.
Nigeria needs sensible people in government because the masses with bear the brunt of thuggery and gangsterism in the corridors of power. We have done that for over 60 years.

Lagos State is terrible in terms of water supply. Every house in Lagos has it own water supply - borehole and overhead tank. True or False?

Moferere:
The same Onitsha o?

Have they fixed their lack of water?

Enugu and Onitsha are terrible in terms of water supply.

"The coup being an ethnic cleansing /agenda isn't even debatable"

How did you arrive at the conclusion that the coup carried by military personal of different ethnic groups being ethnic cleansing/agenda?

Can you show me empirical evidence that Awolowo came to Onitsha to discuss with Zik?

Igbokid:
You keep running around in a circle.
I like the way I'm exsanguinating you.

Your initial lie was that AG and NCNC didn't have the numbers but ever since I bursted your lie , you've resorted to shifting the goal post just to save face .

Kindly point out the part where I claimed Awo and AG were one and the same . Stop lying abeg !
Don't you have any honour ?? It's even a faceless medium for Pete sake

If you had any working neuron in that brain , you would have realised that I said that the coupists ''claimed" ... However, the result of the coup revealed the motive behind it - Ibo domination.

The Ibo treachery and backstabbing of Jan1966 was well documented . They killed the NPC leaders but miraculously allowed Zik and his counterparts that formed the so called corrupt government to walk free.

The coup being an ethnic cleansing /agenda isn't even debatable .

You being a typical Ibo with extreem greed and dishonesty would never agree that your useless forebears in typical Ibo fashion laid the foundation of Nigeria's woes and we are yet to recover from the mistake of January 15 1966. Ciao!

Your response is stinks to high heavens. You are a pedestrian and logic-impaired commentator. You are all over NAIRALAND spewing half-truths and fabrications. You make a substantive statement in thread and in another thread, you contradict and invalidate your earlier statements.

Here is the statement that attracted my response.
"Excerpts from the paper shows the Western Region is the most developed and richest region in Nigeria pre-1960, and it also capture succinctly what I have been saying that the Yorubas will be far better off with our Oduduwa Republic than remaining in this Nigeria that is pulling us down

Your response ("Why change a system that is working in the first place?') is contradictory to your statement, ("I have been saying that the Yorubas will be far better off with our Oduduwa Republic than remaining in this Nigeria that is pulling us down")

The system could not be working if remaining in Nigeria is pulling Yoruba down. The system could not be working if the Bello and Zik hated Awolowo with so much passion that they sought to pull him down. Why would Awolowo want to remain in the same country with the same people that hated him passionately?

Your response ("Awolowo do not make hasty decision like Ojukwu............Moreso Awo doesn't have the power (at least looking at the situation pre the civil war) to declare secession coz declaring secession is not a tea party or something one just decide as a loner" "Also Yoruba independence will be based on Yoruba terms and not just based on reflex of Eastern region declaring the same") contradicts your comment ( "I have been saying that the Yorubas will be far better off with our Oduduwa Republic than remaining in this Nigeria that is pulling us down")

The 1966/67 crisis was a golden opportunity gifted by providence to Awolowo to peacefully and bloodlessly pull Western Region out of Nigeria that is, according to you, pulling Yoruba down. Yoruba could never have asked for such a better opportunity. The two Yoruba enemies -Eastern and Northern Regions - were fighting each other. All Yoruba needed to do was to stand aside and allow their two enemies to destroy themselves. Instead Awolowo joined the North - the region that hated him with so much passion - to fight Biafra and sustain One Nigeria which was pulling Yoruba down. I agree with you that Yoruba independence will be based on Yoruba terms and not based on reflex of Eastern Region. It is over 50 years since Igbo declared Biafra. When will Yoruba declare their freedom from this Nigeria that according to you is pulling her down. Since that 1950s, Yoruba has been making noise about secession from Nigeria. But they are only good at talking the talk not walking the talk.

On May 1, 1967 at a meeting of Leaders of thought of Western Region, Chief Obafemi Awolowo made the following declarations: ‘I consider my duty to Yoruba people in particular and to Nigerians in general to place four imperatives, two of them categorical, and two conditional. (1) Only a peaceful solution must be found to arrest the present worsening stalemate and restore normalcy. (2) The Eastern Region must be encouraged to remain part of the Federation (3) If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt of Nigeria, then Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation. We know what happened when Eastern Region seceded. Awolowo chickened out and chose to serve in the government of his mortal political enemy

Ojukwu did not make a hasty decision. That's view is Yoruba false narrative of the war. Ojukwu forced Gowon to come to Aburi to address crisis confronting Nigeria. A comprehensive accord called Aburi Accord was reached but Gowon chose not to implement it because it was going to create a decentralized Nigeria impossible for the North to dominate and manipulate. Ojukwu insisted on the sanctity of Aburi Accord. The two Yoruba governors (Adebayo of Western Region and Mobolaji-Johnson of Lagos) who signed the accord chickened out an

LegendHero:
Awolowo do not make hasty decision like Ojukwu.

Why change a system that is working in the first place? Moreso Awo doesn't have the power (at least looking at the situation pre the civil war) to declare secession coz declaring secession is not a tea party or something one just decide as a loner.

Also Yoruba independence will be based on Yoruba terms and not just based on reflex of Eastern region declaring the same.

You did not address the questions posed to you. Your response is wishy-washy.

LegendHero:
I really don't like going around in circles coz everybody knew the Aburi accord agreement was a common knowledge and was a creation of the military. How you chose to blame Awolowo for that remains a topic for another day.

The treacherous nature of Azikwe, his attitude towards the eve of 1956, his earlier statement when the north tried to seceede, his statement about Igbo seceeding when he fellout with Balewa, his collaboration with the North to charge Awo of treason and also his double dealings made Awolowo never trusted Azkiwe or the Igbos.

Below is the speech of Azikwe in May 12th, 1953 about seccession of the North from Nigeria. The North at that time want to seceede from Nigeria but Zik made it hard for them by trying to play on their intelligence.

""I have invited you to attend this caucus because I would like you to make clear our stand on the issue of secession. As a party, we would have preferred Nigeria to remain intact, but lest there be doubt as to our willingness to concede to any shade of political opinion the right to determine its policy, I am obliged to issue a solemn warning to those who are goading the North towards secession. If you agree with my views, then I hope that in course of our deliberations tonight, you will endorse them, to enable me to publicize them in the Press.

In my opinion, the Northerners are perfectly entitled to consider whether or not they should secede from the indissoluble union which nature has formed between it and the South, but it would be calamitous to the corporate existence of the North should the clamour for secession prevail. I, therefore, counsel Northern leaders to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of secession before embarking upon this dangerous course.

As one who was born in the North, I have a deep spiritual attachment to that part of the country, but it would be a capital political blunder if the North should break away from the South. The latter is in a better position to make rapid constitutional advance, so that if the North should become truncated from the South, it would benefit both Southerners and Northerners who are domiciled in the South more than their kith and kin who are domiciled in the North.

There are seven reasons for my holding to this view. Secession by the North may lead to internal political convulsion there when it is realized that militant nationalists and their organizations, like the NLPU, the Askianist Movement, and the Middle Zone League, have aspirations for self-government in 1956 identical with those of their Southern compatriots. It may lead to justifiable demands for the right of self-determination by non-Muslims, who form the majority of the population in the so-called ‘Pagan’ provinces, like Benue, Ilorin, Kabba, Niger and Plateau, not to mention the claims of non-Muslims who are domiciled in Adamawa and Bauchi Provinces.

It may lead to economic nationalism in the Eastern Region, which can pursue a policy of blockade of the North, by refusing it access to the sea, over and under the River Niger, except upon payment of tolls. It may lead to economic warfare between the North on the one hand, and the Eastern or Western regions on the other, should they decide to fix protective tariffs which will make the use of the ports of the Last and West uneconomic for the North.

The North may be rich in mineral resources and certain cash crops, but that is no guarantee that it would be capable of growing sufficient food crops to enable it to feed its teeming millions, unlike the East and the West. Secession may create hardship for Easterners and Westerners who are domiciled in the North, since the price of food crops to be imported into the North from the South is bound to be very high and to cause an increase in the cost of living. Lastly, it will endanger the relations with their neighbours of millions of Northerners who are domiciled in the East and West and Easterners and Westerners who reside in the North.

You may ask me whether there would be a prospect of civil war, if the North decided to secede? My answer would be that it is a hypothetical question which only time can answer. In any case, the plausible cause of a civil war might be a dispute as to the right of passage on the River Niger, or the right of flight over the territory of the Eastern or Western Region; but such disputes can be settled diplomatically, instead of by force.

Nevertheless, if civil war should become inevitable at this stage of our progress as a nation, then security considerations must be borne in mind by those who are charged with the responsibility of government of the North and the South. Military forces and installations are fairly distributed in all the three regions; if that is not the case, any of the regions can obtain military aid from certain interested Powers. It means that we cannot preclude the possibility of alliance with certain countries.

You may ask me to agree that if the British left Nigeria to its fate, the Northerners would continue their uninterrupted march to the sea, as was prophesied six years ago? My reply is that such an empty threat is devoid of historical substance and that so far as I know, the Eastern Region has never been subjugated by any indigenous African invader. At the price of being accused of overconfidence, I will risk a prophecy and say that, other things being equal, the Easterners will defend themselves gallantly, if and when they are invaded.

Let me take this opportunity to warn those who are making a mountain out of the molehill of the constitutional crisis to be more restrained and constructive. The dissemination of lies abroad; the publishing of flamboyant headlines about secessionist plans, and the goading of empty-headed careerists with gaseous ideas about their own importance in tile scheme of things in the North is being overdone in certain quarters. I feel that these quarters must be held responsible for any breach between the North and South, which nature had indissolubly united in a political, social and economic marriage of convenience. In my personal opinion, there is no sense in the North breaking away or the East or the West breaking away; it would be better if all the regions would address themselves to the task of crystallizing common nationality, irrespective of the extraneous influences at work. What history has joined together let no man put asunder. But history is a strange mistress which can cause strange things to happen!""

In all Honesty, Do you think Awolowo will trust a double-mouthed man like Zik or the Igbos when the East were trying to seceede too?

"Excerpts from the paper shows the Western Region is the most developed and richest region in Nigeria pre-1960, and it also capture succinctly what I have been saying that the Yorubas will be far better off with our Oduduwa Republic than remaining in this Nigeria that is pulling us down"

You are a study in contradiction. if you knew that Yoruba will be better off with Oduduwa Republic, why didn't Awolowo declare Yoruba independence with the secession of Eastern Region? Why did Yoruba align with the same North that hated them to fight Biafra's independence?

LegendHero:
I stumbled upon the archive of the New York Times in October 18th 1959 on the eve of the election battle preceding the independence. The article clearly shows the genesis of the problem of Nigeria and how the Igbos and North both ganged up against the Yorubas because of their hatred for the success of the Western region.

Excerpts from the paper shows the Western Region is the most developed and richest region in Nigeria pre-1960, and it also capture succinctly what I have been saying that the Yorubas will be far better off with our Oduduwa Republic than remaining in this Nigeria that is pulling us down.

Below are the quotes from the Times newspaper:

The conservative North, 75 percent Muslim and containing about half of Nigeria's population, is governed by the Northern people's congress. The premier is Alhaji Sir Ahmadu Bello, who carries the title of Saraduana of Sokoto.

In the East, where the intelligent, energetic Ibo tribes predominates the controlling party is the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons, headed by one of the most dazzling of Nigerian politicians, Dr. Nnamdi Azikwe, premier of the Eastern region, who is known throughout the country as Zik.

In the somewhat more developed west, which is Yoruba Country, the government is run quite well, it is said by Chief Awolowo, an able politician, and his Action group. The West points with pride to its universal free primary education, free medical treatment for children up to 18years of age, agricultural planning and other social programs of which no other Nigerian region can boast of.

On the Hatred of the Yorubas by Azikwe and Balewa:
The Federal government whose prime minister is Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, a muslim notable from the north, is managed by a coalition of the Northern people congress and National council of the Nigeria and the Cameroonians, two parties that have very little in common except mutual dislike of the third (Awolowo).

Anytime the Igbos accuse Yorubas of being betrayals, you should direct them to this factual statement of their eternal betrayal of the Yorubas by being slaves to the North and being a coward to conspire with the north to hate Awolowo who would have made this Nigeria a great country.

Please Nairalanders, read the rest of the details in the affix pages below.
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Modified: some people are asking me for the source of the news. You need to subscribe to the New York Times website to be able to view the archives, even if you click on the link you won’t be able to view until after you subscribe.

https://www.nytimes.com/1959/10/18/archives/election-battle-warms-in-nigeria-three-parties-seek-control-of.html?searchResultPosition=2

Restructure Nigeria and the attraction of Lagos State wanes considerably

helinues:
Let me ask you, do you think your people would still be flocking to SW daily if that's how the ritualists case are rampant in SW.

Abi you never thought about that?

You said it all!

Rugaria:
This is the height of mental laziness! Some of you are pathetic beyond belief. Ironsi was in power for just 6 months! 6 months!!! Because of the tribal politics of The Sarduana and Awolowo and Akintola, he suggested centralized system of administration. The north was against that. So Ironsi decided to travel around the country to explain his position to the different regions! He was killed while still doing this. As at the time he was killed, the regions were still functioning in full force, headed ofcourse by indigenes from these areas. Revenue generation and utilization were still following the principles of regionalism... Every practice associated with regionalism was still effective! He was killed for his suggestion by those who ostensibly opposed his ideas.

How come that almost a century after his murder, the same people that killed him and took over the reigns of governance, are still blaming him for all the evil maladministrative hiccups that they have bequeathed to Nigeria? I mean how can you blame a man you killed 60 years ago for your present failures, when you killed him to stop him? Why can't you Yorubas and fulanis accept that with over a trillion dollars oil income, you guys have failed abysmally at the simple task of running a modern society? Why pass the buck? This country is the way it's today not because Ironsi suggested a unitary system that he never lived to practice, but because from the day he was killed, two tribal groups with their retrogressive cultures hyjacked officialdom but failed woefully at running a modern state. Simple.

"Sadly, the Hausas have been so messed up with religion by Fulani Emirs ruling them that they will still vote for a Buhari if there is another election held today"

They will vote the Fulani who have enslaved them 100 times before they vote for Ndigbo who can free them.

Guyman02:
Fulanis are seriously displacing Hausas in their homeland in the North but many people in the South are yet to understand that the Hausas are facing systemic genocide as they view the bandits as Hausas.

The confidence of the Fulanis is because of Buhari been in power which they feel gives them some cover to carry out their nefarious activities to the point of freely inviting Fulanis from other countries to relocate to Nigeria and occupy Hausa land especially those with gold deposits as oil value diminishes.

Sadly, the Hausas have been so messed up with religion by Fulani Emirs ruling them that they will still vote for a Buhari if there is another election held today

Totally agree with you!

Idiko1:
If governor El-Rufia is not a dumbass fool, he and poverty-stricken northern region should join the south-east in the quest for disintegration of Nigeria. The teste of the pudding is in the eating. Nigerians cannot know which region will starve to death until we go our separate ways.
A goon who believed his hungry state can feed half of Nigeria yet shivers uncontrollably at the mention of disintegration of the zoo called Nigeria.

Nigeria Police in a federation is a misnomer.

Peterobiisathie:
Cannibals have slaughtered their police officers

Are you non-Igbo from former Eastern Nigeria?

Thoh:
Old eastern region was dominated by Ibos..
Ibos took everything upon themselves.. ibos are worst than Fulanis when in power..

Some idiot ipigs say we Ijaws should go back to the disaster eastern region....thunder fire them

"Some states tried to buy the DISCOS within their states so as to be in charge, the foolish drunkard stopped the states from bidding."

Are you for real? I have also wondered why the states were not sold the DISCOS within their states which will allow them to manage it efficiently for the benefit of their states. I never knew DUMBO refused to allow that. He is a monumental disappointment.

I still believe GEJ didn't do any tangible thing for the people of the Niger Delta.

The people of the Niger Delta gained no meaningful project under GEJ. The guy is a disaster.

See the way GMB handle the PIB matter, GEJ could have done all within his power to make sure the PIB was passed with the bill favouring the Niger Delta. Even if it means he will bribe to make sure it is pass

Some states tried to buy the DISCOS within their states so as to be in charge, the foolish drunkard stopped the states from bidding.

He eventually sold it to incompetent people/companies with clause that will make it extremely expensive if the FG decide to cancel the contract.[/quote]

Don't mind the hypocrites who try to shield Osibanjo from the calamity that Buhari/Osibanjo regime has become

Lunex:
Why can't we blame osinbajo in this administration?
Because he isn't part of the government or what? A vice president?
If he has plans for Nigeria, as a vice president don't you think he has the best platform to show it?
If he sees buhari incompetence and he doesn't speak up then he shares equal blame with him
But the question is: why giving ourselves little options? Must out saviour come from someone with past record as vice president/president?
NB: Atiku is not even better

Leaders indeed!

mrvitalis:
So you didn't want to support a PDP member from south west but ended up supporting a PDP member from north West

This are people we call leaders

You are ahistorical: drunkenly and giddily ahistorical

doclatom:
How old are you, if I may ask?
Anyway, the north had more seats because they had more ethnic representations. The north central was included in northern seats. It will shift the number of seats, not necessarily the number of votes.
You don't even know if I'm Igbo. You see, the day you realise and accept where you went wrong, that's the day you embark on the road to genuine recovery. No one is above certain mistake. If you have enough energy and data, kindly go round and do your won research and see if what's written here is false. You react because it pained you. Truth hurts, brother!
The number of votes and seats that'd have resulted from the coalition between Zik and Awolowo would have shifted and balanced the power play at that point in time. Zik betraying the gentleman agreement with Awolowo unduly shifted the power balance to the north.
Did Awolowo swallowed his pride and went to Zik for a coalition just to checkmate the growing influence of the north then? Yes, he did! What did Zik do, he betrayed that gentleman agreement and went to meet up with Balewa instead.
Did Zik influence Balewa into getting Awolowo arrested? Yes, he did because he felt the Yorubas were making too much trouble and noise over his sneaky, betraying behaviour. The financial sleaze accusations were believed to be from the Yoruba people mentioned in the post.
Did the Igbo later find out they couldn't control and puppeteer the north as Zik initially thought? Yes!
What did the Igbo do? They went on rampage in a coup to try to decimate the north that was becoming larger than life to them.
What happened after the coup? CIVIL WAR OF THREE YEARS DESPITE AWOLOWO'S PLEA TO OJUKWU TO FORGET THE IDEA AND TO INSTEAD REACH OUT IN DIPLOMACY!
Who lost more people at the end of the day? Igbos!
Who's playing the victim? Igbos!

Now, this doesn't take anything away from the Igbos and the Goodwill they enjoy even on the west. Igbo's biggest problem is starring them right in the mirror if they look in the mirror and honestly evaluate what they see.

Igbos are good people. But their biggest leader didn't see things correctly. He made wrong decisions, likewise some of others that followed thereafter.
When Awolowo saw the hegemony brewing from the north, he started developing the west to make it strong and independent should anything happen. The cocoa house, the first TV, the free education, etc. The coalition of the betraying, sneaky Zik and Balewa called him A TRIBAL LEADER. Alas, Awolowo saw right and equally did right!

It is well with Nigeria. Everyone will get their just reward! Amen!

"if the civil was only btween igbo and Hausa-Fulani or Igbos and yorubas, I tell you Igbos will win any day and any time.."

You spoke the truth!

truefact:
Yorubas is has this or that...my question is..WHY haven't yorubas use their suffercation to dislodge the Hausa-Fulani from being the owners of Nigeria?

Yorubas are nothing....Why can't yorubas compare themselves with Hausa-Fulani? Yorubas claim to be the most progressthieves and suffercated, yet they are slaves to Hausa-Fulani...

Mind you, igbos are dislodged by a combined forces which includes the yorubas and Hausa-Fulani. ...if the civil was only btween igbo and Hausa-Fulani or Igbos and yorubas, I tell you Igbos will win any day and any time....yoruba are true cowards...

Igbos are like one man fighting again many men...
Yorubas March Hausa-Fulani man to man, stop being cowards

You are a drunken perpetrator of falsehoods and fabrication!

cocolacec:
The most dangerous friend to have in a struggle is one who has an unchecked obsession to take your lands for himself.... This was the mistake Afonja made with Alimi.... same mistake the Hausa people made when they embraced Usman Dan Fodio.... a Fulani man from a kin that had no ancestral land anywhere in Nigeria.

In the mid 1800's... Ibadan and Ijaiye were at war, Egba sided with Ijaiye ( just as Igbos seek friendship with Yoruba). Its intent was to observe the war from within and manipulate it to their advantage as they put plans in place to take over Ijaiye lands while the soldiers were at war..... Kurunmi of Ijaiye caught wind of the plan and as such, had to divide his army into two, one to remain at home and the other to face Ibadan... this made it less formidable in the battle field and was one of the reasons Kurunmi lost the battle.

No disrespect goes beyond the ranting of an Igbo man still angry today that Zik was not able to colonize me and my kinsmen in their space... they argue it as if Yourba people did wrong by not replacing one colonizer with another..... and till today, the obsession to overrun Yoruba land is still as strong as the days of Zik.

Zik was greatly upset with the Macpherson constitution of 1951.... reason being that it broke Nigeria into boundaries and southern Nigeria into two regions. It gave regions power to nomitae members of house of representatives. Zik did not like this because it greatly reduced the influence of NCNC in the South.... in Yorubaland, AG was the dominant party.... in Southern Nigeria however, NCNC was a stronger party.... so Zik wrote an open letter to Awolowo and quote ; ' We of the NCNC can count on a surprisingly commanding number of members to support us in the western house of assembly, with your equally large number of members the two parties can present a united front and create such a deadlock in the western provinces as to force the hands of government to make party politics more effective ( Dec. 25, 1951)..... this looked like an innocent call for friendship... but the devious underline agenda was that he had his eye on the western region to overrun it as an Igbo colony... He was an Igbo man and NCNC was very formidable in his homebased, why did he want the deadlock to be incited in the western region..... risking the possibility of the provincial governor to sack the western parliament.

Then there was the civil war... Ojukwu had his eye on Western region and recklessly tried to march soldiers into it to invade it.... His intention was to keep it as an estate of Igbos and place a puppet ( Victor Banjo) on the throne.... same thing Zik tried to do through politics, he tried to do it through a direct assault.

Then we had a recent Endsars where all Igbos, especially those of IPOB desperately wanted the focus to be on Lagos, the IPOB leader even said they should not go to Aba.... or incite in the East.. He wanted the focus on Lagos... they tried to focus the anger on Yoruba politicians who drove GEJ and Igbos from the presidency.
This should tell you as a Yoruba man that there is an ulterior agenda that has not changed..... anyone who desires your land cannot be your friend.... If you get too comfortable with such a people, they will sabotage from the inside and manipulate the struggle to their advantage....

Every time they are frustrated by the central government, their focus is Yorubaland....

We don't need friends, we need strategy.... our way forward is unity between Yoruba people and Yoruba leaders.... while we fight that they should truly represent our interest... we should never reject them to embrace foreigners that want our lands.... doing so would not make us different from the Afonja we condemn or the shortsighted Hausa people that supported Usman Dan Fodio against their local rulers.

"Remember the civil war a misunderstanding between two army officers (Ojukwu and Gowon) filled with egoism..."

That's a flat lie.Stop vomiting what you don't know.

AlexBells:
Nigeria's unity had always been negotiable but Nigerians generally have no culture of negotiations, we have Senate and house of Reps whose duty is primarily negotiations.

Nigeria can not even break as Nigeria's costly unity is the best thing for the inherent wickedness in an average of our kind, in 1945 North said the Igbos were taking their jobs they Massacred Igbos, remember the issue between Akintola and Awolowo, the wild wild west, people were burnt alive.

Remember the civil war a misunderstanding between two army officers (Ojukwu and Gowon) filled with egoism these are all things that should be settled with negotiations, you got to keep talking, hopefully before 50 million people are killed Nigerians will learn to negotiate, look, how did this guy even become a king.

Totally agree with you

Redcrafton:
Who was competent then to lead Nigeria?

Ogundipe the most senior ran off...

Who should have been the head of state in your reckoning.......tribal man?

How was he going to be prepared when he was trying to hold the country together...as a soldier?

Tell me one Nigeria leader who is compotent..

Even your current starboy is utterly incompetent...

..all he does and says are like...

...Nigeria can be a super power...
...Nigeria can be great in 50 years...
..We can change the economy in 30 years..
..Nigeria should never be poor....
...We will lift 10M Nigerians from poverty in 2030.
...Nigeria will change for good in 6 years...
..bla, bla, bla bla...
He is in government and acting as if he was outside...

You have proven the reason they call you folks SOPHISTICATED slowpoke!

Dsalvo:
Stop trying to drag Yorubas into your lunacy because you are desperate to gain an ally in 'persecution ' by proxy. Face it alone. We are not unreasonably hateful like you Igbos.

Yorubas are not vociferous about the matter of Igboho simply because many, like me, did not back his stance of "secession or death" he wanted us all dragged into.

Yorubas are reasonable. We don't hate other Nigerians and most know political solutions exists for many of Nigeria's problem. Igbos are just a hateful and divisive people who act up when not in charge.

Igboho is simply suffering the same fate as Sowore who Yorubas have also ignored because he acted like an omo ale when he lost an election and then tried to get Nigerians to rise up against the democratic process he pretended to believe in and wanted to lead. "Revolution now" my foot. Yorubas cannot fall for that madness.

Yorubas are not like Igbos. They will not follow a character like Sowore or Igboho. I predicted all this when Igboho started his agitation that led some ignorant Yoruba upstart to be insulting Tinubu, Osinbajo, our traditional leaders and others.

Yoruba people know the importance of respecting societal hierarchy consisting of people who deserve respect because of age, wisdom, position, achievements and the awareness they have paid their dues for us. This is what Igboho fell foul of.

Totally agree with you!

Ammishaddai:
This man must be smoking something that's in between cannabis and crystal meth. The hallucinations he keeps having about Nigeria keeps growing stronger by the day

I have asked the same question too. Shonekan had the chance to save Nigeria and become the father of Modern Nigerian nation. He could have secretary arrested Abacha and retired him while he was under arrest, and gone ahead, recalled Nwosu to announce the June 12 Election and installed Abiola as the President. If the Northern military and political leaders don't think twice to abuse power and commit all sorts of altrocities while in power,while shouldn't southern leaders deploy political power to effect systematic change.

The answer is cowardice. Shonekan was a coward and traitor. He was more interested in satisfying his selfish ambition than doing public good -even if the public good will benefit in the long run.

naijaspeak:
Can we go back memory lane a little. Why was Ernest Shonekan, the head of Interim National Government afraid of retiring General Sani Abacha. He left this googled general for close to three month until Abacha became a monster. General Abacha seized power and terminated Shonekan government and installing himself as head of state. Abacha government committed gross human right abuses. The googled General went on to steal billions of Nigeria 's oil money some of which are being recovered from foreign government in Leichestein, Luxembourg, switzerland etc

But why was Shonekan afraid to dismiss General Sani Abacha despite the threat General Abacha pose to his government.

How did Igbo remove restructuring clause when they were not in charge of Nigeria

Jackson105:
It is Igbos that scuttle that, it is that hopeless Azikwe that remove secession Clause from the Constitution and even declare it as treason, because they thought they will be in Power forever.

Is it not surprising they are the one at the fore front of secession now? They must suffer it, no Biafra for them, they all stay in one Nigeria forever.

Nonsense and 5%

Tell them my brother!

Emergingnation:
Lol ! We packed our bags and left in the 60ths, your father's fought to bring us back, in the cause of unity begging..

We will leave again, it's just a gradual process

Igbos are fraudulent people, yet you don't want to allow them to go. The whole Nigeria went to war to prevent them from leaving Nigeria

ArewaNorth:
This is exactly what an Indian told me in 2019, he said he has been dealing with Nigerian in different businesses for more than 30yrs and he very well knows Igbos as fraudulent people. I didn't mean to offend them but this was what he told me in Mumbai that year.

You are absolutely right. They are the first to tag Igbos wailers and Biafra

haha20:
But your Yoruba people are the first to insult everybody and call them IPOB whenever somebody says that Nigeria should be divided to its natural units before Fraud Lugard came.

Why must blackman end all his problems with war?

ThinkSmarter:
Igbo Commoners believe that the actualization of Biafra will bring their sufferings to a halt.
But elite Igbos know that Biafra won't be so easy to get and no body is ready to trade his present Comfort for the eventual chaos that comes with every war especially having learnt from the 1st civil war.
Or are you ready to sacrifice the comfort of your your beautiful one room apartment to go and stay in the bush/jungle where you will deprive yourself of the basics of life.
Get addicted to drugs, get malnourished and face death threats from the government forces?
Are you ready?
Are you ready to die at any moment?
War is a big deal.
You can't predict the aftermath .
It might be devastating.
Are you prepared for it?
Are you prepared to see women being raped by drug influenced rebels?
Are you ready to see education and business
activities grounded?
Are you ready to see beautiful structures bombed?
Are you ready to see children and your aged parents getting sick and starved?
Do you have enough resources like guns, bullets, bombs, aircrafts and combat trucks for war?
I ask again, are you ready?
Or should you embrace dialogue and go diplomatic.
The fantasy of Biafra is like the fantasy of heaven or paradise among believers
There was a country.
#ThinkAboutit