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damagepbuh:
Unlike islam where everything can be physically and logically explained Christianity can never ever be physically or logically explained. My points that Jesus is God sounds stupid right?
Yes dat d way d bible says dat the things of God shud sound to those in darkness. because d bible says that the things of God are foolishness unto dem dat perish

And I am sure many ex Christians pastors and all equally quoted all these thinking they were filled with holy ghost only for them to realise that they were only wasting their time and just been foolish. I pray your eyes open to light. You have been in darkness for so long that darkness has turned to light for you.

If there is one thing I have learnt in this thread is as long as you are speaking the truth, falsehood can't take you down. Your truth will always be superior.

tintingz:
^^^You're blessed Albaqir

Imagine that fanatic man called me an apostate and raised an apostate fatwa on me.

He didn't have to call you an apostate. The things you said in that thread, if I uttered such things, I wouldn't even call myself Muslim anymore. You were questioning Allah's wisdom and knowledge.

madridguy:
You are only talking about the Alcohol area and you blind folded where she was denied liberty to play with her age group just because they're non-muslim.

اتق الله
Here is the original post again

And that's not even mentioning the number of friends I've been forced to let go simply because we happened to be the opposite gender, all because good Muslim girls don't have male friends.

Lagusta:
Not all sufis drink wine....

Not all sufis worship graves....

This is how other muslims do takfeer on another group just because tyhey see some commit some sins, as if they are the best!!!

Go and learn more about tasawwuf, dont just buy a pamphlet and read, then think you know everything about it....

Did you miss the part where he used "SOME" ? Read his post again.

madridguy:
You need to broaden your knowledge about Islam.

What did he say that was wrong?

[quote author=AbdelKabir post=54269032][/quote]I always like the way you say it as it is. Man sha-a falyu-min WA man sha-a falyakfur

madridguy:
From the write up so far I think her parent caused it all. I used to tell who cares to listen, Religion is like bird, you don't hold it too tight because if you do you kill it. How could you deprive your daughter from mixing with her peers all the name of religion. She was raised by extremists and that is the major reason she loss interest in Deen ISLAM.

I will advise her to try Sufism.

Are you blaming the parents for preventing their daughter from going to a house where she can easily be influenced negatively? Is that allowed in sufism?
Would you allow your daughter to go and play with her friend whose mum is a prostitute?

madridguy:
From the write up so far I think her parent caused it all. I used to tell who cares to listen, Religion is like bird, you don't hold it too tight because if you do you kill it. How could you deprive your daughter from mixing with her peers all the name of religion. She was raised by extremists and that is the major reason she loss interest in Deen ISLAM.

I will advise her to try Sufism.

Are you blaming the parents for preventing their daughter from going to a house where she can easily be influenced negatively? Is that allowed in sufism?

damagepbuh:
Sorry u Muslims hate hearing dis but i will shout it to u.
JESUS IS THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND HE IS MY GOD.

Yeah. And same God died so he can forgive you your sin. The absurdities in Christianity are just..........

alBHAGDADI:
Where in the law of God is it stated that a 54yr old man should have raunchy sex with a 6yt old girl?

Clearly you are a mischievous fellow. The reply to that question has been given by haroun13. Haven't you been reading?

alBHAGDADI:
Pls, tell me what has this got to do with telling Lies?

Apparently the explanation was too difficult for you to understand.

And since when has any e oppressed islam? As if the whole world doesn't know of how islam has been oppressing people, cultures, laws and freedom.

Of course if I were to give examples, you would only say it was a retaliation. So what difference does it make to you?

mind you, you still haven't addressed the topic.

If you have been paying attention, you would have realised that I have been answering your question in a form of comparison.
But of course, you only seek to attack.

Am sorry to say, you have been blind all these while.

oh really?

With the huge rate of terrorism and the known fact of Muslims and their barbaric and backward lifestyle, Christian dominated Europe and America still accepted Muslim refugees, even when the same refugees turned out to be terrorists who are currently raping, killing and terrorizing their land.

which of the terrorism are you talking about? The same one caused by this Christian dominated Europe and America? Mtchee

Christians send aid to Boko Haram victims in IDP camps, even when they know very well that Islamic Boko Haram killed many Christians and bombed churches.

Are they sending aids to families of boko haram or victims of boko haram (Christian or Muslim). Don't be stupid

Christians have not retaliated to the killings of Fulani herdsmen in southern Kaduna. It's not as if there are no Fulani in Christian dominated southern Nigeria that they can kill an well. They turned the other cheek by still doing business with the. [quote]You are so ridiculous. So your Christian friends from Jos who were eating the flesh of Muslims they killed on Sallah day was a form of turning the other cheek. Just shut up already.
[quote]Pls, don't make me go on

Please do let's show the world how wicked most Christians are but want the world to believe they are christ-like. Hypocrites most of them

It is better to have a law that promotes perfection, even when many won't be able to fully abide by it, than having a law that gives room for imperfection which can breed more imperfect practices.

This is your problem. YOU are trying to infuse Christianity into Islam. Allah doesn't demand perfection from us cos we can't be. If we are perfect, then we aren't humans. This is not a problem for Muslims, so why is it a problem for you.

Is that why he allowed a LIE? If he allowed a single lie, then it means Muslims can tell more lies.

Use your sense now. Just because I asked you to share my food doesn't mean you can share my wife.

No wonder muslims lie a lot, especially to defend their religion.

Hahahahaha. A Muslim who lies to defend Islam has committed a sin. It's better he says he doesn't know than lie especially if he doesn't.

The Bible says

Ephesians 4:27

and do not give the devil an opportunity.

When you tell a single lie, no matter how small, Satan is invited into you. We all know how he loves to take control of things. For Muslims to be permitted by Allah to lie, then it means they don't serve a holy god.

No wonder Allah calls himself the best of deceivers in the Quran. See what the Bible says of such a being and his followers.

John 8:44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the FATHER OF LIES.

Again, I repeat, please stop using Christianity belief system to judge Islam. As far as Christians are concerned they can eat pork but not Muslims. I can say that a Muslim who eats pork has committed sin as far as Islam is concerned. But I can't say a christian who eats pork has committed sin in the context of Christianity because eating pork in Christianity isn't a sin ( as far as some of my Christian friends have Made me believe). So you see, one religion's sin can be another's good deeds.

A god that permits his followers to lie is not a holy god cos he permits SIN.

Allah our creator is the one who determines what is sin. And He has in His infinite wisdom told us this particular act in this condition isn't a sin. So why is it a problem for you. Leave Muslims to complain. Just because it's death your religion seeks from its adherents doesn't mean it must be so for all others.

Many do. Examples are the Christians that ISIS Boko Haram Al Shabab Al Qaeda have beheaded with their pictures and videos all over the internet.

Let's focus on boko haram cos that's closest to home. I challenge you to give names names of those beheaded ( video evidence and not hearsay), their identity, state of origin, tribes and religion. You will find out that Muslims are among them assuming you were able to find some.
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We remember our Lord's saying...

Mathew 10:33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

@Friendchoice, you peeped and runaway.

It's a good thing I am not a Christian

damagepbuh:
If my daughter gets divorced she will remain single for d rest of her life, dat is d law of Jesus.
As for ur mohammad i dont see any difference between bestiality and someone who can ravish d armature genitals of a kid, a child tufiakwa

You see..... That's the difference between you and me. You follow the law of Jesus and I follow the law of the creator of Jesus ( the God of Jesus)

Islam is a very practical religion. Unlike in Christianity where they tell you to turn the other chick for a slap literally and technically. Islam understands that an oppressor would always oppress and at such gives an option of forgiveness or retaliation in same way.
By the way, how many Christians would turn the other cheek for a slap? I am yet to meet such Christian.
Christianity is a religion that promotes very sweet laws that even their holiest of men find difficult to follow or implement.
ALLAH understands that we will always encounter difficulty in the practice of your religionand that's why he makes it easier and simpler for us. He doesn't seek our death especially when it could have been avoided. How awesome Islam is.
I do not expect one who believes in a God that isn't human but human to understand this simple explanation. So you can go on and say as much vile things as you like.

How many Christians will proclaim Christianity in the face of boko haram knowing such choice is tantamount to their death. Hypocrites

alBHAGDADI:
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I can imagine how happy you are right now for getting this attention. After several mentions and I finally replied. Rejoice. As far as this thread is concerned, all points have been addressed. So enough 9f the chit chat.

damagepbuh:
They are called PERVERTS and not strong willed. Eg sleeping with dogs, goats, old widows, little kids etc. So bro bring up another excuse

It's only an Idiot that equates bestiality to legal marrying of a widow. You should be ashamed of yourself

damagepbuh:
Bros people sleep with goats and donkeys and do the unthinkables. They are called PERVERTS and not people with self control bla bla bla. How can someone who only cares about old wagons be self willed. Pls bring up another useless excuse

Hahaha. You guys never seize to amaze me at your display of stupidity. A widow on nairaland now who just saw how you condemned men (especially single men) who are courageous enough to marry them would swear for you.
What's more stupid of you is comparing marrying a widow to bestiality.
Should any of your daughters or sisters be divorced, and another man comes forward to marry her, please kick him out and call him PERVERT.

While you are at it, look up the meaning of Pervert

alBHAGDADI:
It was sugar mummy tinz

Proof?

alBHAGDADI:
[s] Mohammad was a gigolo for marrying a 40yr old rich widow when he was 25yr old.

She must have been his sugar mummy [/s]

Your opinion as long as you have no strong evidence to back it up

damagepbuh:
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Now big bro can u now go ahead and look for widows in ur neighborhood and Marry them all!!
Konji na bastard

I think it takes a young man of strong will and self control who is marrying for the first time to marry a widow almost twice his age. It's something you definitely can't do cos your lustful eyes can't stand it.

It's so funny how this bigot finds the marrying of a widow a condemnable act rather than commendable. JazakAllaah khairan @ haroun13. Seeing the way you educate these guys has really motivated me to keep replying for the sake of those that truly seek knowledge even though I had decided not to engage these islamophobes again.

AbdelKabir:
@ udatso, I've modfied the reply...

will watch them inshaAllah

May Allah reward you brother haroun13 for taking her to the cleaners. I must warm you though, this one doesn't give up. Not even in the face of clear evidence as you have brought forth.

toye440:
The fact that u ans or carry a Christian name really doesn't make u one. I was initially surprised to see u garner over 216 likes but after much cogitation I came to that conclusion u spoke d minds of those against d ladies decision.
Have u had a second thought like she's trying to safe herself or family d future problem of which religion her children should or would follow.
The Lady obviously read that part of the bible that says " bring up a child in the way DAT he should go and wen he grows he would not depart from it". Having seen what Islam calls peace no reasonable woman would want her children going about with bombs strapped on their body.
Same for the husband who believes Islam is the religion. so u see how wise she is and if u doubt my assertions pls date one and see if they don't ask u to convert.

How many Muslims have you known on a personal level that have their children going about with bombs strapped? Don't speak ignorantly. I am a Muslim and the fact that he is thinking of changing his faith because of a woman is actually annoying. Let him change if he is convinced that Christianity will earn him paradise or heaven. Cos it's not the faith of your partner that determines how sweet or bitter his hereafter would be.
Just because you hate Islam shouldn't stop you from been sincere.
The advice I just gave now is equally the advice I would to a non Muslim faced with same choice

AbdelKabir:
on what do you disagree with him?

Many Islamic channels (radio and tv) I have seen or heard have females presenting, teaching or preaching. Are they all ignorant of this fatwa. I am us usually not the type of person that reject or accept a practice just because many people are engaged in it. The reply given above by the sheikh was more like his opinion and I didn't see any daleel to back it up

RABIUSHILE04:
QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH USTAADH SULAYMAAN AMUBIEYA (HAFIDHOHULLAAH)
Questioner: Please sir; is it permissible in the Sharee’ah for a woman who is knowledgeable or not, to gather the people (for the purpose of explaining the religion to them). Can she organize radio programs or television programs since it has to do with calling to the way of Allaah, and Allaah ordered both men and women to participate in it?

Ustaadh Sulaymaan Amubieya (HafidhohuLlaah): All perfect praise is for Allaah, Lord of the worlds. May blessings and peace be upon the Messenger of Allaah (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam). Assalaamu ‘alaykum warahmotuLlaahi wabarokaatuh.
All perfect praise is due to Allaah who made us Muslims. We beseech the peace and blessings of Allaah upon Muhamamad (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam); the one whom Allaah sent as mercy to all of us. Jamaa’ah, we beseech Allaah with His oneness to save us from the deception of Shaytoon.
Before the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam) departed from this world, he informed us in an authentic narration that, “If I depart (from you), you will certainly follow the footsteps of those who were given the scripture before you….” In the Islaam with which Allaah sent the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam), with authentic evidences, women are not permitted to do Da’wah on the radio. A woman who submits to the will of Allaah is not supposed to do Da’wah on the television. If she is knowledgeable; it is permissible in the religion that she teaches her female counterparts in the mosques, schools of Islaamic learning, (and this should be) amongst the women. It is not from the methodology of the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam) for a woman to go to the radio and television stations (for the purpose of Da’wah), but many people may think that women are also participating in Da’wah (if they do so).
There is a statement we have always called our attention to, and it is this same statement that is affecting us (today). What is it? ‘Do not love the religion of Allaah more than Allaah.’ The One who says a woman should not go to the radio stations for Da’awah from the tongue of the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam) is the owner of His religion. He is the One who knows how to save those who will be saved. Take care of your husband’s house; take care of your children, and take care of your husband too. Have you completed the rights of your husband? Do not turn yourself into that which you are not called (in the Sharee’ah). Do not later become what you are not supposed to be addressed with. Do not allow the devil to turn you into a stone which he stones away. The women are not from this (that is, the believers are not supposed to have these attributes). There are various ways by which you could be beneficial with that which you know of knowledge. Teach your female counterparts.

There is no evidence from the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayh wa sallam) to support this affair. In fact the woman who asked the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam) regarding the women that used to gather in her house till when it was time for prayer; Ummu Waroqoh; she asked the Prophet (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam) about how it would be easy for them to pray. The Prophet then appointed a person (a man) who would call the prayer in her place, and he would leave whenever he finishes calling the prayer. They (the women) would pray amongst themselves in that same house wherein they teach themselves knowledge. No woman came out (from them). But regarding all these things, the Prophet said that majority of what we haven’t seen before are things we would be seeing at the end of time. This is one of the signs of the end of this age. From the things which would make us know that we are in the end times is when women say they will do the work of the men in the religion. Wa ssalaamu ‘alaykum warahmotuLlaahi wabarokaatuh; and Allaah knows best.

[SOURCE: QUESTION AND ANSWER, TAPE 26 OF A YEAR’S ROMODOON RADIO LECTURES; TIME OFTHE QUESTION AND ANSWER IN THE CLIP, “00:37-03:32”]
Aboo Aaishah Al Odeomeey

Na wa for this sheikh oooo

RABIUSHILE04:
Ustaadh ‘Umar Dada Paiko: In the name of Allaah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful. (All) praise is (due) to Allaah, Lord of the worlds. May prayers and peace be upon Muhammad (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam), his households and his companions. To proceed, the question is actually two questions in one. One part of it is an international scene, and the other one is coming back home, but I think they are one and the same thing. (This is) because in international scene, I gave an example; I used Palestine. (Clears throat)…I used that as an example; there are so many examples in the world, there is Afghanistan and so on and so forth. And locally, there is the “Jamaa’atu Ahlis Sunnah Li Da’wati wal Jihaad” in Nigeria. They are all saying the same thing that they have been pushed to the wall and so they are pushing back.

I think this is wrong cos there has never been a time boko are rams complained of being oppressed. I find this ridiculous cos they are are the oppressors and not the victim. They have always been.

In the case of Al-Qaeda for instance, Al-Qaeda is saying it is fighting for Muslims who are being oppressed in Palestine. Like I have said, the Qur’aan shows that if Muslims are being pushed to the wall, they push back; they fight back. They fight in self-defense. The little problem that I see in what Al-Qaeda does in the international scene is that fighting back is not the duty of a group of Muslims.

Again this doesn't apply to boko haram. I might not know much about alqaeda and ol but I know bh have not been fighting as a form of push back or whatever he calls it.

It is supposed to be the entire Muslim Ummah under one leadership, deciding that they should fight back, and then the leader would appoint those who would do that on behalf of the Muslims, so that if there is any need to employ any tactic in fighting back, it is the leadership of course in consultation with the Shuroo committee that will take that decision. And then (they may) say we will fight back, and this is how we will do it and this where we will start from and so on and so forth. So Al-Qaeda as a group does not have that, because it is just a group out of many groups of Muslims. When it was under Taliban in Afghanistan, they have a Muslim government. They have leadership and there was the head of state of that country and so he (the leadership) in his country could fight back any such oppression if his government had agreed that they were supposed to fight back. But for one group to decide that the whole world should fight back and then to call people to fight is wrong Islamically. It is not right; that is not how it is done. If you leave it to groups to do that, of course they open the door to extremism because one group could interpret it in one way; another group could interpret it in another way, so it is not for groups. It is for the entire Muslim Ummah.

[s] Coming back home, it’s the same thing. It is just that the other one is international while this one is Nigeria, but it’s the same thing. [/s]

We have a group of young people who have come together to say every other person is wrong and they are right. There is something wrong in this thinking in the sense that it is not guided by the leadership of the Muslim Ummah in the country. Whether we like it or not, the Sultoon is the leader of all Muslims in Nigeria. He is the one that the government recognizes as the leader of the Muslims. And in fact, if you were to ask the generality of the Muslim Ummah who their leader is, more than 70% will say it is the Sultoon. So, such important decision should be left to him. The Messenger of Allaah (sollaLloohu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said, “Even if you think the leader you have did not attain his position the right way, as long as he become the leader of the Muslim, he becomes the only one that will be given the responsibility of leading the Muslim Ummah (in important decisions like that).” Like the decision of fighting back against those who have fought us. If the Sultoon says yes, we fight under him if he says no, we will be patient because the pious predecessors have taught us to all be patient and follow the leader even if we think he got to the place the wrong way. But as long as he is the leader, we cannot take some decisions that will affect the entire Muslim Ummah; we can’t take them based on our sentiments. Having said that, of course I would have pointed to the fact that it is wrong for any group to take that as its responsibility. But if the Sultoon…(unclear word)…and comes out to say Muslims will now fight back; (then) it is time to fight.
Unfortunately, in the international scene, we don’t have one person for the entire Muslim Ummah in the world, so it will be left to countries. Saudiyyah can decide that it is time to fight back so and so people; (I mean) the government. Afghanistan’s government can decide. Nigeria’s government can decide. Egypt government can decide. But it is wrong Islamically for groups to take that as their responsibility, because the blood of humans is concerned here and Islaam takes that seriously. If you kill one person wrongly, you have killed the entire world and you will be accountable to Allaah. So it’s a very serious issue that individuals should not take into their hands. I hope I have answered your question sir.
[SOURCE: ISLAAM AND EXTREMISM; TIME OF QUESTION AND ANSWER IN THE TAPE: 55:05 to 1:04:02]
Aboo Aaishah Al Odeomeey

Abdelkabir
This is the part I think you tried to clarify and I already don't have a problem with this. But saying bh attacks is as a result of been pushed to the wall is false cos there hasn't been a time these rams gave such impression.



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I find this reply very disturbing. Is this sheikh trying to tell us that members of boko haram are terrorizing both Muslims and Christians because they feel cheated or oppressed?

Hahshahha

olasaad:
Firstly I am not married and my point is before you guys embarks on marry a second wife, you should make sure you provide and satisfy the first wife who had been suffering with you for a while e.g buying a car for her, sponsoring her business, giving her cash if possible built a house for her in order to compensate her.

After that you can now marry another wife and start to equalize among them believe me the first wife will be a little satisfied.

I totally agree with you and I really get where you coming from. It's a pity our brothers would just marry a second wife when things get a little bit better and thereby forcing the first wife to endure the competition after the patience and all that she had to endure.

Subhanallah

InsanePsycho:
I can imagine little kids burning in hell while Jehovah/Allah smiles at them all lovingly

Kids are sinless in Islam for the record

tintingz:
Brother udatso and others, can you all please stop putting Albaqir to my matter? Albaqir does not even agree to many of what ive been saying, our ideology are different, he's shia I'm sect-free, because we act like pals doesnt make me a shia Muslim, i and Albaqir have had disagreement discussion in many past threads, but that doesn't make us enemies even Empiree.

I don't hate anybody here as long as you don't insult me,

I'm a Muslim, I still believe in Allah but I don't believe in fairy tales. Kapish?!

I know you are not a shia. Based on topics you have been involved, It's a fact that you and him tend to agree on a matter more than disagree especially one that salafis are involved. I thought if he cautioned you on lines you shouldn't cross, it might sound appealing to you.

If you are a Muslim, then stop asking such questions. If Allah says something is A, stop trying to ask why it's not B. It's understandable if a non Muslim is asking but Islam does not expect such from a true believer