₦airaland Forum

lonelydora:
DJ cuppy, you have very bad advisers of that's what they told you. It is better to stay where you are than relocate to Nigeria, even though you will stay on Banana Island and move around with security.

The bad news of how our leaders embezzle our funds you will be seeing on television will make you regret coming back.

If you know how I deeply regret not leaving this country when I had the opportunity ehhhh. Biko don't come and add to our already Hugh population

Ashley86400:
Every celebrity wan born for U.S. *In German accent* Vat is vrong vit Nigeria?

You sef see am abi
It's not a crime tho

Another elite giving birth in the USA
It's okay

tigeress2011:
Afonjas just hate this guy only because he surrounded himself with Igbos...SMH.

This could be true, and may be they are also happy with the status quo because some of them see it as revenge

Mujtahida:
Sighs, I understand where you coming from and how your mind has been shaped. It would take time but if you are curious enough one day you will come to see a different perspective. I ain't a Muslim.
But for starters and as I write it Google it :the number of persons claimed to have been gassed at Auschwitz as depicted on the plaque at the site was reduced from 4 million to less than 2 million in the 90's as a result of the Ernst Zundel trials of 85(the evidence of the foremost Jewish holocaust historian was torn to shreds by Doug Christie, lawyer to Ernst Zundel) and 88
Google Red Cross data on the total number of jews that were killed in the camps.
There's no single evidence for the gassing of the Jews. None! Zilch. The gas chambers shown were constructed after the war.
Are you aware that questioning the veracity of the holocaust is a crime in 17 countries in Europe. Why? The truth fears no investigation, not so?
The popular Anne Frank's diary has been proven by Robert Faurisson to be forgeries.
I could go on and on and on. But Google is your friend. I am not a Muslim. Never been and would never be.
Download 'Tell the truth and shame the Devil' written by Gérard Menuhin (son of Yehudi Menuhin great Jewish violinist of the 20th Century) So many books I can refer you to sha. Cheers

So are you telling me that the holocaust never happened?

Na wa o

Extermination of the Jews was a state sanctioned policy of the Nazi government under Hitler.
Hitler made it clear from day 1.
Why did hundreds of thousands of jews flee to the USA?

Or are you saying that Hitler was hallucinating?

One may argue that maybe not up to 6 million were killed, but to say it never happened is just unbelievable.

deedeedee1:
My child will never try that. They will be raised well. His tribe matters most.

Teaching your child how to be a cultural supremacist LMAO

deedeedee1:
Marry from your tribe so your children will appreciate their culture. I have seen many children born from intertribal marriages that are either here or their. Most even tend to love their mother's side more.
If you are a man, my advise is for you to marry someone from your tribe.
Only fools marry people outside their tribe

Is it a crime for your kids to love their mother's side more?

It's okay

Chukazu:
Never say never... The day you meet the one you love, her tribe would be the last thing on your mind, talking from experience

It's the mindset that your tribe is superior to another, is what makes you want to cling to your tribe.

God did not create any tribe, God created humans in his image, but we what want to recreate God In the image of our Tribes

EXACTLY!

Your second paragraph sums it all up for their likes

Cultural Supremacy

LordKO:
@OP

You have a parochial definition of culture. As far as I am concerned, culture isn't the way the dead lived and did their things, but how the living chooses to live and do their things. .

I'm too liberal for culture or any other trivial thing to inhibit me from marrying any lady that tickle my fantasy.

Nice

PataAlhaja:
I think the OP has a point.

As a proud Yoruba nigger, if at all, I consider marriage sometimes in the future, she just has to be Yoruba. Kids are closer to their Moms and I would love to raise 100% Yoruba kids, with 100% Yoruba names and inclinations ... kids who would learn the Yoruba language, culture and ways from their Mom and I ...

Besides, I love speaking the Yoruba language so much. So getting married to a "Non-Yoruba" is definitely not an option.

No apologies ... My life, my choice.

Life's too short, you know. Igba o lo bi orere, Aiye o tan lo bi opa ibon!

Nothing wrong with your choice

But your types should not crucify others who decide to toe the other path.

It's a free world, and a fast evolving world, you all have to deal with that

OrdercityWeb:
The bolded. If Isrealited continued marrying Hittites what would have happened to them?
Hittites would lose their culture offcourse to the Isrealites. Cause and effect. See?
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Identity is identity. Wherever you want to claim.
If we all keep marrying fron other places it would get to a point most of us wouldn't even know where we are from.

But if Hittite men were marrying Israeli women too, how would the Hittite have lost to the Israeli?

I have a feeling that you are a cultural supremacist, because people who share your views that I know in real life all are

Mujtahida:
So you know about the Armenian holocaust. Thumbs up. But please revisit the claims of the six million holocaust Jewish genocide by the Nazis. Google is your friend. Cheers

The holocaust was an undeniable event, a shameful event

The only people who don't believe that are mostly some Muslims, or will I say Arabs who don't like the Israelis.
The accounts are there, the Gas chambers were (and still are) there, eye witness account, and even holocaust survivors narrated the story


So indeed, there was a holocaust

OrdercityWeb:
The bolded is what is going to destroy the West. The Asians understand the importance of protecting their values. This is why China will become the next world power.
It is political correctness. We can never be united, we are different people, @the tower of babel unity of the human race was discouraged by "separating their tongues". Its suicidal to try to unite everybody in the name of being politically correct.
We can only interact BUT OUR UNIQUENESS MUST BE PRESERVED. Not trying to "mingle" and intermarry thereby losing our identity.

Inter marriage is what built the west, and greatly stopped the infighting amongst them

That is why they could come under that umbrella "white" and they also put us under the umbrella "black"

OrdercityWeb:
I just knew someone will go emotional and leave facts alone.
I guess the Chinese and Koreans who hardly inter marry are "backward" or you are more evolved than them.
How does intertribal marriage preserve culture?
What then is your identity if you are from different places at the same time?
Discouraging intertribal marriage IS NOT EQUAL TO tribalism. Tribalism has nothing to do with that, it's a mindset and you can still be a tribalist even in an intertribal marriage like the example i sited in the OP.
Please reply intelligently and with facts and not appealing to emotions or trying to sound politically correct. Face REALITY PLEASE.
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Intertribal marriages kills and dilutes cultures they lose coherence and values becomes extinct faster

The Chinese and Koreans outside China and Korea do inter marry? the ones at home even inter marry amongst fellow Asians
A trip to Cambodia will show you

tintingz:
The world is evolving and some ignorant, archaic people are still wallowing whether inter-tribal marriage should be encourage. SMH

How does marrying from your tribe, race add to economy or our daily life or make things better? and to think your culture will fade off, this is fallacy, your culture will only fade off if you don't teach your children your culture.

I will encourage inter-tribal marraige anytime, anywhere, it creates harmony between tribes, race than hatred, it promote culture. I won't promote tribalism supremacy like our ignorant archaic fathers did, the world has evolve from that mentality and people should evolve from this backward mentality.

I agree whole heartedly with this

OrdercityWeb:
You are digressing. That's not my point.
What i mean by cultural preservation is THE VALUES OF A PEOPLE NOT THEIR TECHNOLOGY. Technology evolves.
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BUT OUR VALUES NEVER CHANGES and if they are not passed down to the next generation they will become extinct.
Now you've not still answered the question of IDENTITY?
**modified**
I still don't see how technological advancement and change is caused by Intertribal marriages

That is not true
Cultures and values change over time

You think the Yoruba language and cultural shenanigans are the same today than they were say 230 years ago?

Mujtahida:
When did modern Germany and Italy become nations? Since 506bc abi?You will be shocked to know when they achieved nation-statehood You don't know that nationhood is a process abi. Was it not Count Metternich that originally referred to Italy as a geographical expression? Is Italy a mere geographical expression today?

And you conflate without proper distinction terms like tribe, ethnic group, nation and race. That's why you wrongly used the Chinese and Koreans to back up your point without realising that they have tribes like we do and intermarry across the various tribes(but of course since they are of the same racial stock you would not notice just as a Chinese would not notice if you married an efik woman or even a Ghanaian)
Yoruba is not a race. Black or negroid is the race, yoruba, a tribal/ethnic marker. Even the Yoruba you have hugged to your chest and made your identity is a term for the peoples of the Oyo empire used by the Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba in the 16th century and it's usage was popularised by the Hausa and Arabic languages (and you are here mocking Nigeria. Sorry oo but I can't stop laughing at your pompous ignorance). Prior to that time your forefathers were Ijebus, Ikales, Ondos, Okuns, Aworis, Ogho (Owo) etc. Ajayi Crowther extended its usage as a generic term to cover the speakers of dialect related to Oyo

Tell em!

OrdercityWeb:
I was having a discussion with a few friends yesterday. I told them emotions aside, intertribal marriages shouldn't be ENCOURAGED.
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Why? To preserve our culture, our identity is in our culture. I know alot of products of intertribal marriages that are torn between the question of identity.
I once read where a lady from an intertribal marriage said her mom insisted she married her own tribe as against her dad's.
In many intertribal homes there is this cultural neutrality, and many times there's a power play on the kids among the two in-laws.
Even the bible doesn't encourage intertribal marriage, remeber the instructions Abraham gave to his servant and the fact that Jesus was sent to the jews ONLY initially.
Have you wondered why the Chinese and Koreans do not marry outside their race, why do you think there is that cultural cohesion and reverence with them anywhere they go.
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My take is INTERTRIBAL MARRIAGES SHOULDN'T BE ENCOURAGED.
What's your take? Please be factual and intelligent DO NOT APPEAL TO EMOTIONS.

**modified**
Alot of people are saying "culture evolves". Yes cultures evolve. But fundamentals like identity remains same.
Culture evolves. Identity doesn't. The fact that the Yorubas believe they descended from Oduduwa is UNIQUE TO THEM ALONE AND CAN NEVER EVER EVOLVE.
THE MOMENT IT DOES WE HAVE LOST WHO WE ARE

I think Inter ethnic marriages shouldn't be frowned upon, and it should be left as a choice, not as an obligation


It is your view that is the genesis of the problems of this world

Too much attachment to Cultural identity leads to a form of superiority complex and tribalism in the world, which has also led to genocides in the past (Nazi Germany and the Armenian genocide)

If they had in laws from there, they would have been less likely to commit genocide against them

skylane:
boss Ugo I have read this whole thread,I av noticed you are some what a globe trekker like I am aspiring to be,as my Role model,from within the whole west african countries especially benin rep,togo,Ivory coast,burkina faso,senegal,(I don't like ghana 1 day)which one do you think would be nice to atleast settle down/visit to have a life time experience,(am looking at ivory coast heard a lot abt it) language no problem I can speak atleast french,arabic,so much more,I just wanna leave this country naija,I have never travelled outside naija before, merci beaucoup,monsiour Ugo

Hello there

Thanks for the compliment

Okay, so if I get you right, you want to relocate from Nigeria...


Or is it that you want to tour?

Let me get you right.

Kentrasso:
Hi. Please where can I change CEFA to NAIRA in Nigeria?

Any Aboki place where they change money is fine

If not, you can change after crossing the border.

Harzontorh:
Ouais.. bien sûr. Et de ta côté la-bas?

Pas mal
Tu sais que il y a une pétit crise au Togo?

Young03:
enjoying a left over

Will you keep shut!

cstr1000:
Ghana does not share a border with togo. Besides, there are far richer and more influential countries than ghana in west africa to call upon.
Equatorial Guinea is richer than ghana, while Senegal is stronger than ghana.

Are you for real

Ghana shared no border with Togo
That's not true.

It's Nigeria that does not share border with Togo, but when at that, Lome is like 4.5 hours away from the Nigerian border, which is not too far.

Charly68:
The Togolese are saying ,Gwasinma our mumu don do..only God knows what French their colonial master will be thinking now..yawa don blow..those who do visit most of these francophone nations know that they are under serious colonial task master . They have no authority over their own national resources . France is practically living on them foisting rulers on them and not leaders

It's not exactly as you are painting it, but you have a point

AdaNri1:
chai, your family are liberal o. Which is good and has its own advantages. We gave our children proper Igbo names and the school was asking us if we have a shorter version of the names so it's easier to call we said no! If they can call Schwarzenegger and Ottolenghi I see no reason why my children's name should be difficult to pronounce

I meere nke ofuma

Adebowale89:
and in your area they will think you have wisdom? this white marry our pretty young ladies


why is most of African youths replacing their conscience with material things?


I put it back to you, to put your two fingers on the middle of your head to check if your brain has not shake from its space because I really don't know how to put it in words how weird u sound

Dayum

It's a free world, do you.

A lot of black men marry beautiful and too class white chicks too, so it's not as if ALL black folks marry Oldies.

Besides, it's a proven fact from observation worldwide that Black men are more likely to marry white than black women, and white women too are more likely to marry black than white men.

That's just how it is

AdaNri1:
you can hear Olga saying "citizens of the world" already. Which means she doesn't care about Igbo tradition that an Igbo man's children are automatically igbos. Mikel didn't even give them Igbo names! Ina nukwa. This is one of my reasons.

Well I come from a family that believes a woman's culture matters to a child as much as the father's culture does, a fact that many Igbos don't seem to agree with anyways

So we are different.

In our house, if our girl marries a Yoruba person, they learn both languages, and have both names in the birth certificate.

But in their case, they are not answering Russian or Igbo names, so Ojoro cancel,

Besides it could have been a joint decision between two of them any ways.

AdaNri1:
mba nu, agam aju o. Ju sie ike! All the fine fine good character Igbo girls juru ana Igbo, o bulu onye ocha? So that isi ngwa nu ka eme tradition his children will be confused because mother didn't teach them as she ain't got a clue! Besides Igbo amaka! No nwanyi onye ocha biko. That applies to my daughters as well. I'm already telling them all now. Ka ejili na Oge chuo ewu ojii mgbe chi ka di.

LMAO; D

Agu nwaanyi ka I wu,

Ka -anyi na elegodi

planetx:
Would this guy have married a 72 year old Nigerian woman except she is a billionaire but will marry an average white granny that is a retired cab driver. The problem with a lot of Africans are low self esteem and a sense of inferiority complex.

What is this one saying biko?

Adebowale89:
these white are hypocrites. what would u called this that a grandma and her supposed grandson mate having love affairs, is that not part of child abuse law?


they practice child abuse to we Africans but loud us out when it happen within us



my country people

Read what you ryoer again...

Then put your hand on your head and ask yourself whether what you typed up there shows you as a wise person or not

Does the husband look like an underage to you?

shadrach77:
This is why one should not pity these silly white folks when they are scamed. Is this granny saying there are no suitors for her in the UK?

She prefers to align herself with a man based in Africa who she considers to be mentally inferior and who she can easily manipulate not knowing she is the one who would loose out in the end

What is this one saying?

AdaNri1:
it didn't stop her manipulating things.

Biko I'm Igbo and I don't want my son to marry onye ocha tomorrow. Chukwu aju! Mikel emechu go ndi be fa iru! Tufiakwa

I'm an Igbo person too, but in my own family, we don't mind.

Well people are different tho, and I understand you.

@What you wtote in Igbo

E never reach like that na.

nwayoo.
Ok, O bu na nwa gi nwoke choro ilu onye ocha, gini ka i ga-eme?