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OLAADEGBU:
Can a Muslim be the president of the United States?

Religion is not a criteria in any thing politics, if a christian can rule in US then any faithless or faithful person can rule as well

Holyfield1:
Because Ben Carson don talk am now u con dey ask stewpeed question....Get a life bro

You are just nasty

The question is actually a harmless one.

johnydon22:
I totally disagree with this, you were subjected to unfair indoctrinations into these things, as you put it programmed with what to think and you want to subject your little ones to the same fate? No to me that's cruel.

I was born into that shackle and i tell you my children will not be subjected to any form of psychological shackle or abuse. I will allow them develop their own opinion, i will show them the world as it is at the same time encourage them to agree with things only when it conforms to their reason..


[b]Threatening Children with the image of hell, teaching them dependency on abstract concept and all other psychological quagmire is one thing i will never subject my kids to..

Go to Nigerian Night Clubs i can bet that more than 96% of the people there are theists all raised Christians and stuff. i personally see no problem with someone going to a club to dance and have fun though i have never been to one, not that it is bad but because it is just the way my life is, i love serene environments though i will sure go to one anytime i feel like or want to.

So these kids raised christians and stuff but still end up in Night clubs shows that it is not about raising a kid the christian way, it is about knowing how to get to their young minds, it's about knowing how to show them the society for what it is and most of all teaching them to know what conforms to their reason.

Using threats (like hell as Christianity & Islam) employs in inciting morality into young lads simply is a psychological abuse on the young minds of these innocent ones because you are getting them to conform to your idea of morality with a factor of fear, that to me is immoral itself.

Teach the young ones to be NICE because it is good to be Nice to others. [/b]

My parents were raised Christians

[b]I was born into Christiandom and i know the guilt and fear i grew up with, i remember the first day i kissed a girl as a 9year old kid (you know Children love ) That one act haunted my mind for years. The fear that i have done a terrible thing, the fearful thoughts of going to hell because i kissed a girl. (Worst of all the parents don't even know or notice their Children are going through these psychological trauma )

I won't have my Children go through same abuse, i won't let my Children grow up with an unfounded fear weighing heavily in their minds. i won't let my Children be discouraged of cultivating healthy questions and developing their own ideas, i won't lie to my Children by telling them that they are sinful, that they are terrible persons, broken, inherited the sins of some mythical jewish couples who ate an apple, or make them dependent on abstract concepts for favours.

No i will teach them that they are beautiful, strong, wonderful, great. i will teach them to be dependent on themselves, i will teach them the world is good and they should strive to be good to be sure the world is good.[/b]
[b]
I am an agnostic atheist but i will neither raise my Kids as atheists or theists. That ideology is for them to cultivate.
They need to see the world as it is then develop their own opinion. I can only teach them to always think but will never force or impose on them what i want them to think, they are the ones to decide and make their choices when they are old enough.

I intend to raise them to "Be Good for goodness sake" i intend to teach them to place humans first before ideas.

I intend to show them that only their actions towards others is what makes them either good or bad.

I intend to show them that their nature as humans is very beautiful, intelligent and strong.

And i will never teach them myths as truth or fables as truths But rather i will teach them myth as myth and fables as fables and reality as reality.

The young minds no nothing like hatred, intolerance, racism, sexism, indoctrination, bigotry, homophobia, prejudice, misogyny.

They do not yet understand things like Love, tolerance, joys, compassion, acceptance, human decency, empathy, integrity, beauty and truth.

nor disturbing emotions like fear, greed and jealousy.

For the first and most important formative years of their lives they will only know what you teach them.

So choose well.
[/b]

Don't worry

When you start parenting you will change your mind or your wife will, that i know for sure,

Your parent had no choice but to raise you A christian, i'm a parent and i had no choice but to raise mine so, back then i did Bk in school because it was compulsory for my career and as i'm typing this post my children are taught BK in school.

Religion practically features in all aspect of our economy, it must get you somehow.

theAtheist101:
Nice work up there. If Niaraland is not belief-biased, this thread should make front page.

You and i know that this thread is not worthy of front page.

Debating silly things, how does that benefit the general forum populace

IamAtribalist:
Man made God in his own image. Then he wrote a book that says 'God made man in his own image.' Man is a liar. Has been and always will be.

Thank God you said man and not woman,

I totally agree with you, men lie alot

Addietunes:
To be sincere, your question is very serious. I have thought of it and i have concluded to raise my kids the Christian way, but once they start to question the bible I would sincerely tell them to google, or we Google together, if they are still persistent after that, I would tell them the truth. Their being persistent means they are smart and telling them the truth is the only option after that.

Your kids will figure out what religion is all about, you don't need to tell them any truth, your own truth might be different from their's.

As you said you will raise them in a christian way, be happy when they say those silly things you posted up there.

@op, religion adherers are programmed to say these things, we were born and raised that way, and those of us who have reasoned out of these religious theories still partake and raise our kids that way.

I have problem with religion because i feel it has lost its human face, but i'm still raising my kids as christians, i would prefer them singing in the church than in clubs.

Op how were your parent raised?
How are you being raise?
How are you raising your kids or how do you intend to raise them?

Probability

If it is uncertain then it is a gamble

Dapo777:
Nice I can share my happiness with everyone. Complications sets in when I try to single out someone. Thats why I won't do that.

You are just a bad lover, admit it, there will alway be plenty women and you can't finish them.

4C2215131:
Desperate times call for desperate measures.

True and correct.

adewaletb3:
Next time put on some slippers and wear a piece of clothing when you find yourself in such a dream. Nonsense!! Asking for interpretation of a dream.

This post made me laugh out of control.

Pls show some love to op, he is having a hard time, be nice.

igbinigiejeff:
Good one brother!To hear from God you need to be a lover of prayer and lover of God's word. Read the word and meditate on it......Read, Joshua 1v8.What ever it is Let me know.

Joshua 1v8: " be sure that the book of the law is always read in your worship. study it day and night, and make sure that you obey everything written in it, then you will be prosperouse and successful."

Then there was no bible, what other law books do they have if they are not equivalent with the positive laws that regulate our society now

malvisguy212:
follow Jesus.

The character called jesus is not a religion, and he did no die to give you religion, his philosophy i respect, his teachings i know, i also know that Jesus is irreligious.
Jesus was a freedom fighter, a revolutionarist, he came to free you from the bondage of religion created by men.

Am sure you have sold all your belongings and giving to the poor "follow jesus" that is what it means.

menesheh:
Both of us are stocked in this planet earth as apes of same specie. How come you are witnessing something supernatural and am not. Maybe you do witness extra-ordinary and complex waw stuffs that human brain are incapable of solving (sometimes solved but you doubt it cos of your presuppositions) , then you decided to nickname yours as supernatural or know unknowns. It is a confirmation bias. Because i don't know anything about X therefore Y must be the answer.

Bro, this is the reasons why men for millennia have created pretty many imagery gods and fantasies they hold as fact and true.

Who be this guy, your signature sha

You see that they lied when they said the gods must be crazy,

People like jeromejnr and captainjune are responsible for their madness, i have been trying to tell them not to create crazy gods that will give us problems. They said the crazier the god the better.

Jeromejnr:
That is why all humans are in search for the ultimate Truth.

And Jesus came and said He has the Truth. If you understood the Truth I am talking about, then you would know why some of you feel you've not encountered the supernatural while others claim to have.

All these bear bear talk.
Truth, truth, truth blaa bla bla.

We need general truth and not sectoral ones, mankind need to be harmonized, faith has being over classified, if you don't purge your self of sentiments and discrimination, you lack any iota of truth.

You religious folks are being influenced by your various faith, there is no truth in religion, is believe or out.

johnydon22:
[b]We are born free but everywhere in shackles.

I don't know about you but i am only sure of one life, i am only sure of one real realm which is here, planet earth. I am only sure of the pains and pleasure that earth brings, i am only sure that i am here.

Now you can forgo the wonders of this world in your greedy and vainful search for another which is like forgoing Substance for shadow.

But if you ask me, you found yourself here and you are only sure of this one life which is real now, the only thing you can do for your self is to make each and every second of it count by partaking in every wonders, adventures, pains and joys it provides.

You can choose to set your self loose and experience the wonders the world is filled with or tangle yourself deep in the shackles of stupendous restrictions stipulated by men in the name of God.

Make this one life count and stop greedily chasing another you are not sure of except where it is written in the pages of a book.

Live your life for yourself... [/b]

I love this being.
You are just a wonderful person, i've being observing your post lately and learning a lot from them.

Good notes up there

malvisguy212:
Most religions say Jesus was a great teacher or prophet. So focus on that great teacher. Until you do, God will remain a blur. Consider a worst-case scenario. Suppose another religion were right and instead of following that religion, I became a Christian. Many
religions would say the Christian life is reasonably moral.So, according to them,
although I would miss top spot, my life after death would be fairly comfortable. A few claim that if I ignored their religion, after death I'll cease to exist. I
can handle that. Some say I'd get another chance through reincarnation. That's not too bad. But, relative to almost all religions, Jesus increased the
stakes enormously. If he is right and I ignore him, the consequences are unthinkable. In addition, unlike most other religions,Jesus leaves his believers certain that they will enter heaven. Other religions typically place so many
requirements on their adherents before they could be considered worthy of heaven that their followers endure a
lifetime of uncertainty as to whether they have met those requirements.

To determine if Jesus' teaching is from God requires divine insight. Whether God grants a person this spiritual
understanding hinges on a single factor. That critical factor,said Jesus, is your willingness to obey God (John 7:17). Why
should God brother to open your eyes to spiritual truth if you are unwilling to respond to that truth? Yet, few of us are
prepared to pay that price. It involves a willingness to relinquish our hopes and
dreams for the future, to forego our pet sins and anything else God may ask.

Such abandonment seems crazy until we consider who God is. The God who made and sustains the entire universe is the source of all knowledge, moral goodness and love. That means he is good, he is trustworthy, he has our best
interest at heart,he is wiser than us and he loves us more than we love ourselves. Obeying God is the smartest
thing anyone could ever do. Until we acknowledge this and are willing to obey God, we obviously don't want God in our lives. We might want him as our
slave, or as a curiosity, but not as God.If so, why should God waste time giving us the spiritual discernment to know whether Jesus is the only way to God? Until we rectify this, we can expect God to let us remain spiritually confused, subject to the deceptive powers of anti-
God influences, unable to determine which religion is right.

Just tell us what religion is right and correct since you have the spirit of discernment.

Jeromejnr:
Yep I never doubted I was an unbeliever to the Islamic ways. But you're not in my camp so you also are considered an unbeliever.

BTW, I will also be joining CaptainJune in exiting this thread. Just like he said "make sure you comfort her in whatever capacity you can".

Peace out.

CaptainJune:
Okay. I believe we have arrived at the end of this discussion.
Do comfort the Op in whatever capacity you can.

These are preceedent that the world's biggest problem as it stand today is religion, jeromejnr even has his camp where he recruits into so does tb joshua.

The bad part is that when you ask them to think, anger comes in, the end result is, they commit murder or sucide or both.

Religious camps are just like a "gang of thieves" the robbin hood story.

How can society advance

Jeromejnr:
The opposite of word of man.

Is there any written word we see today that is not written by men ,

Bible, quoran, constitution which one?

Jeromejnr:
An unbeliever is someone that does not beleive.

This is why other religion adherer such as muslims see you as a threat, they hate you because you are an infidel, and they are going to kill you when they get you.

You are an unbeliever. Are't we all in one way or the other

You also need to go back to default mood and start thinking critically.

Jeromejnr:
Why should I give you what is meant only for the believers.

You don't know anything about anybody's type. If you like, Comfort from now till tomorrow it still doesn't change situations.

What changes situations is the Word of God and actions.

And what is the word of god
Define the word "unbeliever"

CaptainJune:
Sighs.

How can I make you understand?

Everyone has a Calling from God. Each person has his or her specific task to achieve while on earth. After this is accomplished then God calls the person home. Your task is very important because it is through its achievement that you are rewarded with a throne to rule and reign with Christ for all eternity.

Simple enough?

You have already strategise. What a planner,

What you are doing on NL right now will deffinately give you a reward of a throne where you will rule and reign, you will be president and Jesus will be your vice

God has failed you already, you are too greedy and selfish to even die believe me. All your ranting is for a reward of a throne, i wonder how that country of yours will look like since only you will rule for eternity.

Hope you have a plan B when this plan fails and you don't get the desired reward.

You need to go back to default mood and start thinking.

Jeromejnr:
I don't know where you stand , so I can't give them to you.

You have nothing to offer your self moreorless people in need.

You cannot give what you don't have, i know your type.
my stand does not matter to you, i am here to confort the op

CaptainJune:
I understand your point but unfortunately you don't see mine. The beauty of life has nothing to do with the physical things of life. It is rooted in the hope and joy of having Jesus in you, knowing that whatever storm you are passing through Jesus is there with you and everything will work out to your advantage. The beauty of life also lies in being able to walk in the promises of God for you no matter what you see on the contrary in the physical. Jesus makes life beautiful because the earth is full of the glory of God.

These people you mentioned are not Jesus. In fact, in many you will not see Jesus in them. However, they are the friends of Jesus because He is closer to the homeless, a Father to the fatherless, the comfort to the sick and hurting. Jesus does not need you to beautify Him; He is the source of beauty. All He wants from you is to obey Him and love everyone whether good or evil. Love never forgets the homeless, the sick, the hurting, those in prison, the physically handicapped, the mentally challenged because they are the friends of God.

My goal or destination in life is not to end up in the grave. The grave is the ultimate end of every life on earth but it is not the reason why I was sent to earth by my Father. That which He wants me to accomplish will be done because that is His will for me. Until then, the distance between me and the grave will be very very wide by the grace and power of God that makes all things beautiful in His time.

Some one think he is sent to earth to accomplish a task.

So what exactly are you aiming at accomplishing for God

Perhaps you can make boko haram dissappear,

Deluded!!!!!

Jeromejnr:
I don't see anywhere I said God failed the OP.

God never fails anyone. We fail ourselves. There are laws we have to follow to enjoy what God has for us.

You can refer to the comment I gave to the guy that was talking of the OP being under a closed heaven.

You are blowing hot and cool, just give us the laws since you have them.

Ishilove:
You see the problem is that 'religion' as we know it is inherently flawed. Religion is a creation of man, and hence it is being abused by human beings who use it to perpetuate their insidious purposes. Humans are now more religious, rather than spiritual.

So which one is a way to God
Religions or spirituality and how do you define spirituality in relation to a God

Jeromejnr:
I am just saying the truth here.

The truth is, most people are praying for something and they are "hoping" one day to receive it. But they will never receive those things because not everything works by prayer.

Let's not deceive anyone with "be patient". I have seen ppl that have been patient in church for 10-20 years and still their situations have not changed.

CaptainJune:
Jeez. Sis, why the harsh words? You may have really misunderstood him.

Analize this

He is saying God has reasons to fail us whether we pray or not.

He is also making a claime that God failed op because op served God and prayed wrongly.

Now, jeromejno is not God, instesd of conforting he is conderming, so i said this guy is heartless.

God has no right to fail op, whether he prays or not as long as he has choosen to belief in God.

CaptainJune:
Frustration is a part of life but it shouldn't bother Christians who know their destination in life and how to get there. Life is very beautiful from my angle of perception because I see the beauty of life only through Jesus Christ. Without Him life is meaningless.

You don't know your last busstop, you don't even know when and how you will die, may be you will die today you are not so sure, and you are on NL ranting.

Life will be beautiful only if you make the ugly things arround beautiful.

The only jesus you will see till the day you die are the ophans, widows that have not, the lass priviledged of society, the sick dying slowly on hospital bed, these are the
Jesus who need you to beautify them.

Yes and yes again you can see the beauty of life through them. But until then your destination still ends in the grave.

Jeromejnr:
I can't do that sir, except she asks me. I don't force anything on anyone. I only presented myself, its up to her to accept.

You are so horrible,

You make the devil credible...........the devil should be jelous of your wickedness.

You did not only present your self, you downloaded your self too.

Jeromejnr:
That's because you don't know how the kingdom works.

If you don't know how it works, you can pray for 50 years and still see no answer.

Jeromejnr:
Unfortunately, most Christians don't know how to make God's power work for them that is why you could be bold enough to say what you say.
I actually don't blame you, its we in the church I blame.

You are a very wicked being!!!

macof:
Orunmila, Buddha, Mithra, Krishna taught all these before jesus

You just came to complicate this thread with more gods

Does orunmila forgives

@paulscholari, churches are incoporated for charitable purposes and for the benefit of the have-not and desolates of society, immediatly you deviate from charity to profit making..... God will strike you, you will not escape liKe the rest, you will be a scape goat and you will rot in the same hell that you proclaim,

And don't forget, pastoring is not a full time job, you still need to work for your own pay so you will not be tempted to exploit your members.

Goodluck with your calling.

Ishilove:
You see the problem is that 'religion' as we know it is inherently flawed. Religion is a creation of man, and hence it is being abused by human beings who use it to perpetuate their insidious purposes. Humans are now more religious, rather than spiritual.

This does not answer my ?