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KingEbukasBlog:
God is eternal and has been existing as three entities . These entities are called the Godhead or Trinity - The Father , Son and Holy Spirit . Muslims claim the trinity is a construct of Christianity obviously to validate their religion .

Religion being fallible (arguably) does not preclude God's existence

Abraham was not even a christian.....he knew no trinity....wondering how he became the christian father of faith.

Religion is indeed a toxic to the mind.

KingEbukasBlog:
Man made religion .

Scholar8200:
was it insanity and/or barbarism when he expected a child from a barren, dead womb, he himself being more or less dead?(simply because God promised it)
And did he get what he expected?
Will it also be insanity if he assayed to obey that command with same expectation that God will raise the child up back again?
Answer YES or NO.
Would you honestly say this in the light of what we find in the early Church and their communities?
And those people spoke for over 700 million? Is every christian under the pope? And how many people were thus tested in the WHOLE BIBLE afterwards?
Can this be proven on the field, using the Bible and from history? As an atheist, what should be society's basis for morality?
Abraham had to choose to be blessed, his free moral agency had to play a part.

Where is Abraham's blessing ....show me.

Or are jews the only people on planet earth

Do you even understand the topic atall .

What is so moral about an act of human sacrifice

If Abraham attempted a a human sacrifice and he was unconsciously called father of faith....those that actually carried out human sacrifice for god becomes father of what .

Moral agency my foot....
Abeg gerrrrrrrrrrrattt

KingEbukasBlog:
ok ... if that's what makes you happy . So how does your OP preclude God's existence You didnt answer that

Ok, God exist, i totally agree with you, can he possibly order a human sacrifice

KingEbukasBlog:
Oh dear ! Johnydon22 , one of your crew members only knows part of the story . Can you guys get any worse .. damn !

Genesis 22 : 12 -19



There are evidences within the quoted verses that prove God spoke to him , they include .

1. We all know that Abraham is the father of many nations - a fulfillment seen evidently in our present time of verses 16-18

2. He didn't kill His son Issac after He was commanded not to

3 . God provided a ram whose horns were caught in a thicket which was then used for the Sacrifice . How can his own imagination provide the ram that was then used for sacrifice

Hearsay evidence, some one who was not there told you some heavenly body spoke to Abraham.....and your senses did not tell you that it is normal for such men to have herds of sheep and rams.......you were simply told that the ram that showed up is not one of Abraham's abi .
Even with this, is the act justified , can this pass for faith in christianity .

I don't blame you, you are programmed to think this way

Amberon:
atheists are a confused set of humans. They rather dwell on Christianity than promote their falsehood.

In your mind you have communicated.

Just chu chu.

KingEbukasBlog:
Killing one's son is an impossible and despicable task but actually since its God - the embodiment of good moral standards - Abraham deemed it justifiable .

Its ambiguous - a two way interpretation . His action - obedience and faith - is exemplary to Christians and then its correlation to Christ's purpose for man kind ,

With this understanding , God can't tell me to kill my son or go have sex with a random chick

Meaning Abraham did not hear from God....he was simply mad as Johnnydon wrote.

KingEbukasBlog:
read my post above

I have read it and don't agree that God ordered human sacrifice,

If significance is what you are driving home. Then the story is a bad illustration of faith and obedience.....it is rather insignificant.....i cannot attempt to sacrifice a being for a god....get that into your head.

johnydon22:
I wonder why our muslims are not also coming to defend their Abraham (Ibrahim) ancestor of their prophet muhammed..

would have loved to see their own input

Why will they come and defend mad people...the religious mind is an abnormal one....
For one to uphold the barbaric act of those characters in the holy books...hum, i will not be ruling out a diagnosis of an insane delusion.

Op some of these holy books stories are just terrible...what a horror

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists like North Korea's Kim feed humans to dogs . Why haven't you addressed such barbarism . Why are you always disingenuous ?

The story celebrates the significance of faith and obedience

Do you know also know that there is a correlation between the story of the Abraham and his son Issac with Jesus' ?

AbegiiIi, insanity does not pass for faith and obedience.

How come he now realise he had plenty of beast in his compound when one of them caught his attention.....on the contrary isaac also wanted to be sacrificed as an animal or what And did not border to defend him self when he was about to be killed ....or did he also hear a voice telling him that he should submit him self as a human sacrifice

KingEbukasBlog:
Sarah-giving-birth event was after the flood - after the length of the years man on earth was cut short .

Lol, meaning

johnydon22:
You see i would have been better impressed if the case turned out like so.

God: Abraham kill your son to prove your loyalty to me

Abraham: Oh God even though i think you gave me this boy, i still cannot and will not raise my hand to kill a child, not to talk of my own child sir.. Am sorry but i can't do it.

God: Oh Abraham you have just proved to me you are one who does the right thing no matter what. i am impressed by your steadfastness in what is right.

This would have been a more impressive scenario

Bravo Johnnydon,

This thread must make FP.

I havee said it severly that these Bible characters being magnified as faithfuls are barbarians.

Abraham, moses isaac elijah and the gangs alike are terrorist.........a wicked creature with no name.....The one Called Moses has really baffled the devil....he recruited a gang of thieves who specialise in stealing and sharing female virgins....

Ride on johnny, we are behind you jare.

Makuos:
Help Me Thank God O. I Have Finally Gotten A Better And Permanent Job.

I want to use this medium to help me thank God becos my continuous search for a better and a permanent job has finally come to an end. I just received an offer of employment from the company that I attended interview a week ago with a big salary plus other benefits/incentives for a start. Infact, it was just the Favour of God together with someone that I know that works in the company.
Using my self as a point of contact, I want to use this opportunity to encourage as many that are still looking for a job/better job not to loose hope because your miracle job is already around the corner. Thanks

I'm so happy for you, tears of joy rolling down in apreciation to God for this wonderful testimony of a desired job. More testimonies wiLl come from you.

Thanks for the encouragement.

This thread is still dragging,

Killjoy make sure you don't marry because if you do, you will be in big trouble,

As for kids, make sure you don,t have one because it will be a course for you.

Children are either liabilities or curses...never a blessing.

A man who cannot bear the liabilities of a woman cannot bear those of children.

The arm robbers, kidnappers and boko boys of today are the curses we birthed into the society

Please stay single. It is safer

UyiIredia:
First you'll need to study Hindu and learn the concept of an avatar.

And this is an answer .

Abeg gerrrrrr.at.

Avatar my yannssh.

johnydon22:
People worry about dying and their fantasy of what will happen afterwards that they end up having not lived at all.

You have a life now that is all that matters, you either choose to live in the fantasy of getting another life or diminishing yourself by fearing the inevitable end (end) or you forget about that and live your life for the moment and savor every bit of it..

Tell them o.
They want another one when they have not even finish this one .....is that not greed?.

Yet they don't want to die,

marcopollo:
lol...funny submissions.... Thank you But you see I'd rather accept help from Someone who's more than willing to help me especially when I know I can't help myself anyway. I'm not too proud to receive help. Moreover, you have nothing to lose receiving this one-of-a-kind help of massive proportions like Life Everlasting! *think about it....* rather you have everything to gain trusting that Jesus died for your sins, was buried and resurrected to gift you with eternal life (1 Cor 15.1-4). Jesus Christ was made sin, who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Christ. It's a divine exchange (2 Cor 5.21). Believing for eternal doesn't cost a dime or work. Take it. Please. It's yours. God bless you!

Cost a dime or work? so what will u be willing to die for? .......i smell delusion here.

Religion i know drains you of your time, energy, personal effect and senses, unless you know how to profit from it. believing in eternal life does not even make you a good person

marcopollo:
O yes, my dear, I've considered it and I'm fully persuaded that there will be resurrection of the dead. Bros you don't have anything to lose believing that Jesus died for your sins and he was buried and God raised him up from death to gift us eternal life (1 Corinthians 15.1-4). Any other thing in addition or subtraction you hear out there is man made. His resurrection is a proof of our own resurrection. Amen.

And if God did not raise Jesus......you would't have been a christian....you want some one else to die for your sins? why don't u be responsible and die for your own sin.

We are after death contributions to the earth, trees and grasses.

2kris:
you guys will never learn to mend ur religion and leave christianity apeace.
If such is said abt mohamed it will spark violent and u expect chistian to keep quit will u write trash about them.
Bro leave christians alone except u want to convert.there are churches everywere u can meet a pastor to help u on that area.
If not i leave you with the holy spirit whom u deem fit to mock

I'm more interested in what your holy spirit will do to him.

I bet he has scriptural backing for so doing......where is Oladegbu or..what ever his name is...

Come and give the scriptural passage for this act of crime.

Sarassin:
We are all different and the details of our struggles will differ. My mentor had taught me the Shaman method of “dreaming” and what I can only loosely refer to as working with the “double” I will share this experience.

One particular day after our exercises I had fallen asleep in one of the work-sheds, I woke up to the sounds of footsteps approaching and in order not to be found asleep at an inopportune time In the windowless shed, I got up and hid some distance away from the shed, it then occurred to me that I had left my satchel containing notes where I had previously been asleep, anyone could simply walk off with it, I looked across to the shed to where I had been sleeping a few moments ago, I nearly crapped myself with the fright of my life, there I was…fast asleep.

Gingerly, I touched my awakened self, it was me, I slapped my own face, it hurt yet I looked across and there I was totally zonked out, the people I wanted to hide from approached my sleeping self and walked right past as if I didn’t exist. At this point, I was losing my mind and began to scream, I “woke” up to find myself in the shed I had been sleeping….thankfully, it had been a dream, but then, the people I had seen approaching me in my sleep had continued on their way and I could still hear them talking. I caught up to them and asked if they had seen anyone asleep in the shed as they walked past, they could not have failed to, they said no, not a soul.

This was my very first experience in encountering my double.

Can this be called a dream?.
I leave my body most times like that while asleep, i look at my self sleeping and i see my children sleeping too, but before i step out of my room i find my self in the arena where i'm transacting.

At first i was afraid each time i leave my body, but now i'm conscious of it like normal.

Strange though, because i don't practice any religion, was raised a christian.

@Sarassin, can one be initiated into some funny things unknowingly?

How do i make this stop?.....is like i don't have control over it?.

Keneeby:
I have been offered a job today by one of the prestigeous company in Uyo. Glory be to God who made it possible. To job seekers, don't lose hope God is working things for you. Soon it will be ur turn in Jesus name! Amen.

Congratulation dearie.
Tears of joy for this wonderful news.

Hope to share some for my self soon, and Amen to the above prayer.

You guys prefer to have been created robots with no mind of ur own. Just in order to be irresponsible for ur moral failures? Be reminded:

Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live

Rom 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord"
The choice is yours

Like it or not...... Your eternal destiny( heaven or hell) is ur responsibility.

No need to quote bible my friend..

Man was born with free will but our free will is regulated by positive laws and not religion,

GooseBaba:
Bros, how far are you willing to kill it...? I hope you will not hate yourself so much as to advocate the abolishing of traditional language and adopt English in the name of civilization...

Also, the issues you have with african traditional or culture. Are the issues peculiar to africans.? If not. Are you advocating that the west abolish theirs too. Using your thought process i can lay claims that Liberia is more civilized than American. Due to the fact that a woman has held power as president.


When you are eager to point out some exaggerated shortcomings of african societies as the benchmark for abolishment. It begs the question do you know your history? If you advocate for humanity. I must ask, humanity backed by what?

Go to non african churches in Europe and America and you will see more women patronise them. Is it the African traditions and cultures that they're running from..? In this day and age only inferior men would advocate laws that belittles women.

You cannot advocate a "natural death " for something. While using wrong data. Clearly, by your writeups I can tell that you got your pre colonial information on Africa from classical european authors.

Thank you very much
My grandpa's elightenment was made possible by classical european authors he told me

They wrote what they saw....and i saw some too with my two naked eyes.

I'm using nigeria only as a case study.

Blackfire:
there are cultures that protect women , i hope u know this ?

Pls name one in nigeria, and tell GooseBaba i'm using Nigeria only, as a case study.

A bill scaled through in the house that the age for female children to have sex and be married off is 12........in this present dispensation, there where female senators in the house and they did not revolt....why....that stupid and barbaric customs allows it...and religion too....madness.

What about the male children of 12 yrs .

Those stupid cultures targeted only the female....sexaual slavery is an idea propagated by cultural men....they will not see it as a bad thing until you beat every atom of customs out of these guys.

The man who has also found religion to back this barbaric act is just a barbarian.

So i insist, customs, religions i have the same repulsive feelings for them.....no tolerance here, so i hate them all.

Our religion says this.....
Our custom says thiss......

They both have histories that are unbelievable.

plaetton:
It would be a joke to expect cultural revival from our political leadership.


Go figure.

Those barbaric customs annd traditions you call culture are in themselves bad...they are no where better than religion....i hate them all for inequallity and discrimination against women....it knows no fairness and good conscience......they classify women as lower beings.......some even allow wife beating and marital rape.....they treat women as worthless properties with no price tag......women don't need them revived.

A cultural world is a mans world only and women are slaves.....you see why more women patronise churches than men....is an attempt to break free from cultural chains...i don't blame them.

Let the culture die natural death....i'm one of those that killed it.

Johnnydon22: culture is a way of life.

Malik: islam is a way of life

Malvisguy: christianity is a way of life.

They are all now a way of life, religion has beccome a culture.....thats what is going on.

You can tell me again that i don't know what culture is.

Are you surprise that, that boy told you Abraham is the father of all nation

@Johnnydon22, that they gave you their religion does not mean you should throw away your identity.

Our cultural beliefs made it easy for these guys to impose the jewish cultural on us....they saw that we needed something to believe in..the jewish god was given in exchanged for our gods which were in form of art works.....

Pastors who knows this trick are making fortunes out of it

We are don with customs, culture and cultural practices as they have been relegated to the bachyard of affairs. now is time to the same with religions so that mankind can move forward.

What is the different between cultural believes and religion

Igbo culture says women should not own landed properties, a lot of custom subject widow to untold barbaric practices.....but leaves the widower to be free.....

islam on women is a tales of woes......christianity is a bit libral on women but still has its discriminations....

The cultural beliefs are equally lies, the yoruba belief as to how their gods created earth and humam beings were taught in schools then,is all trash.

We should be identified first as human beings.....the kind of tolerance and acceptance man need in harmonizing mankind are lacking in religion and cultural practices.

samju100:
just humble yourself and u will see God . God resist the proud.

Have you seen God your self

samju100:
yes my God can tell u who he his. if you seek him through the right way.

I know of a fact that gods don't talk, pls what language did god use in telling you who he is?

Answer me quick.

tartar9:
what was now the purpose of your god's murder on the stick

Christ challenged the leadership and religion of his generation, he grossly conderm their atrocities and fraud, the religious burden they placed on the mass, the deceit, the tax system, the business being conducted in the churches and the fake priest who is busy robbing the people off their cows and personal eFfect.

They saw him as adverse to their progress.....he was simply eliminated.......he did not died to give you a religion but to free you from religion.

This should please your soul

plaetton:
You're right on this one.
Indeed, I am trying to avoid the need for magica fairy.

Now, please be honest with me and yourself.

What is another name, a synonym for a magical being who creates things from nothing ?

Hint hint: it starts with an F, has tiny wings, and carries a magical wand.

Is is is...........tinkerbell!!!!!!!!!

inqusitivebeing:
you are still not a good counsellor, must you insult me? you haven't even told me what to do, neither have you suggested a spiritual remedy.

Op your problem is actually an insane one, you have a serious medical condition, you need medical attention from an expert doctor in this field.

I really feel for you because soon you will believe everybody want to harm you and you may just want to commit murder,

The sucidal tot is also a sign that your condition need to be taking seriously.......abeg where is your mum......she need to act fast since ur dad does't care.

Op pls oh i beg you, try and focus on your education....be social and make new friends in school that may allow u spend holidays in their houses.