Abeg o, I won't contribute to someone's money ritual journey. If for reaearch purposes, the person can tour any Yoruba town, request to meet any Babalawo or Oluwo of Ogboni of any town they go to for questions.
your submission was a way for skeptical minds to start their research. sorry my post looked like you are an authority to be consulted.
analice107: I know this. What i want to know is how man made satan
by accepting the lie that UNTIL they ate the fruit, they were not like God when infact they were made to be like God... yielding thier dominion by accepting the lie is how their control was giving to him... now that lucifer was not under the power of God.. the iniquity in him plus the unconditional dominion made him satan..
chemystery: I know what i'm talking about. I'm member of skeptic group that always ridicule Africa for ignorance, especially in cases such as money rituals. This made me search for other cases of ritual killing outside Africa but find almost none but a good number of them in india. Googling america ritual killing will only give you result >99℅ of cases from Africa. It's not something you see on their media or in the news every now and then unlike in Africa. By the way, what a the details of the cases you found from your search?
You make me laugh though. So with ritual killings I should feel superior whereas this is something we should be ashamed of believing.
haha my post shouldnt be to make us feel superior but to make you and your ilk know that its not an african thingy. i condemn ritual killing for been ritual killing but that does not make me condemn africa which you foolishly did... you are first of all an african before your current belief but come to think of it, when the "white" man encounters a phenomenon, he would sacrifice his life to make it a common belief that there is NOTHING mysetrious to it. i will like to employ you or your skeptical type to enter the dark cave of ritual killing to prove its hogwash. south western nigeria can be your start point..with camera and even security might be a great way to start
OLAADEGBU: I remember asking you whether you still use the knowledge you acquired in your elementary school or have you discarded them? You are yet to give me a definite answer.
i discarded it....but how does this answer my question.
analice107: I will really like to hear about this. This is a new angle,
Is Lucifer a different entity from Satan?
And which man created Satan?
pls download or watch this youtube by andrew wommack to see how the first man gave up his unconditional authority to how Christ through His death collected ALL power in heaven and on earth and also the keys of hell and death...
obamd: From verifiable evidence, exemplified by the "ritual killers" nabbed at ile zik in Ikeja, most People who kill and slaughter do so for organ harvesting. They then sell the organs to exporters.
This is not to completely say there's nothing called blood money or something fetish that vomits money. I'm just giving a very logical approach and scientific explanation.
It's no longer news that people need organ transplants daily and those who have direct contact with buyers mainly from India know that its a multimillion dollar business and Nigeria is a major contributor.
The last time,a bad containing kidneys/liver was labelled 25,000 naira. The tunnel had a refrigerator and other dissecting instruments in it. So it's clear the organ harvesting business is a thing.
chemystery: Nigerians and Africans are known to still hold wide number of superstitious beliefs. Like you indicated, we have increasing numbers of participants because they believe magical potions of human parts can bring fortune even when there is no proof of anyone ever getting rich from such. It is just what it is - a mere superstitious belief!
Most times, what we hear are stories and speculations founded on ignorance and hearsays, and our media and home videos also contribute in propagating these false beliefs.
I will say those who engage or believe in such are driven by ignorance, poverty, desperation, gullibility, and irrationalism.
If money ritual works, it should be ubiquitous. But then, you only hear of it happening in some parts of Africa.
Just try google and see if you will get results of ritual killing outside Africa.
self condemning dude... just googke americanritual killing and youwill see examples.. stop hating your race... isit inferiority complex that made you post that without googling... i think so... its REAL not only in africa
mikeolu1: former Circuit Overseer was asked: If he engaged in Any secret "sin", masturbation et al when he was a CO?
Circuit Overseer answered: "The District Overseer meets with the Circuit Overseer once a year to encourage him and to give him any needed suggestions. So that week I give some talks and he gives others. Then on Sunday we have a private meeting where I can bring up anything I want. So this one DO, a real intrusive guy, starts asking me about my personal habits, he specifically mentions how almost all the single CO's and single special pioneers and elders have a "problem" with masturbation. I was surprised at his candor about everyone else. I was also not going to tell him anything personal about myself as I had personally witnessed him drunk at a special Branch dinner for missionaries, saying crazy things into a microphone and just acting drunk. He also hated me for going above his head on a bunch of different matters. So I didn't tell him anything. Every week at least one brother confessed to me about masturbation. So did sisters occasionally, even a couple of older sisters confessed to me. I just told them that Jehovah is patient and to keep fighting against it. Of course, I had my own fight against it, so I tended to go easy on everyone else."
am no JW but this CO them no gree make them marry ne?
So as an atheist , what have you been disbelieving or rejecting all this while ? Do you reject the deification of an entity or do you deny the existence of an entity because its a god or its deified ?
OLAADEGBU: "I've had suicidal thoughts and depression and I want to kill myself." He said that he was born again last year, and "the Bible explained all these things that I had after receiving salvation in Christ! I had love, peace and joy unspeakable. Those days are gone. Now they are dark, and the light is so hard to see."
This is the question soliciting for answers.
He still has the fruit of the Spirit in his spirit because the Spirit of God CANNOT leave him. He needs to remind himself of God to be full of God by a. valuing and esteeming God b. Thanking God for Who He is to him and him to God c. Casting down imaginations contrary to his identity in Christ
segunojo866: meaning your God can kiss my ass. The atheist voice
take this test..
Have I always loved God my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul and strength? ____YES ___NO Have I made a god in my own image? a god to suit myself? ____YES ___NO Have I ever used God's name in vain? ____YES ___NO Have I kept the Sabbath holy? ____YES ___NO Have I always honoured my parents implicitly? ____YES ___NO Have I murdered (God considers hatred as murder)? ____YES ___NO Have I committed adultery (including premarital sex and lust)? ____YES ___NO Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)? ____YES ___NO Have I lied (including fibs and these questions)? ____YES ___NO Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)? ____YES ___NO
on the legion stuff.. did Jesus use the law to cause the possesed man to submit to Him?
I'm sure you know that, and perhaps your concern is that it may be more difficult for these people to come to Christ. Then think of what happened to the man who was possessed by "Legion." Even a multitude of demons couldn't stop him from coming to the Saviour, falling at His feet, and worshipping Him: "When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him" (Mark 5:6).
that "itchy ear" must be something paul was addressing in context and we cant just generalize... a deeper life may have "itching ear" of only kumuyi, a redeemed may have "itching ear" for adeboye etc..so it implies "itching ear" must be read from the context by the enlightement of the Spirit to fully grasp why paul used such a word.
Originakalokalo: Do you really want to know why? 1. He had 3 years to tell you spiritual things that will benefit your life. 3 years to raise the dead, heal the sick and complete the works of salvation
Instead of telling you about the sun, he raised Lazarus from death
Instead of telling you about the ocean, he walked on it.
Instead of telling you about the Galaxy, he commanded the demons to leave.
Why tell you what he has given you Natural wisdom of man to discern? Natural wisdom of man cannot discern the things of the spirit. What did he tell you?
That his name can subdue the roaring of the sea which is a physical phenomenom
That though being dead, life can be restored again....(Lazarus
That a demon can make one to misbehave and loose his mind.
That the spiritual controls the physical and not the other way around. If this is true, I would rather know about the spiritual.
A impressionable young atheist was having an attack of conscience and started questioning his faith in science so he wrote to a well-know atheist and asked him for some advice about living out his beliefs as an atheist. The young atheist received this reply to his question 'How can I be an effective atheist?'
1. Make sure your main focus is on Christians. You can 'touch' on other groups to appear even-handed, but ensure you are careful to make Christians your constant target; you don't want to get killed in a Jihad, do you? So only 'mention' the others such as Islam but then say that there is no difference between radical Muslims and 'fundamentalist' Christians.
2. Remember that you are looking for faults in other religions (Christians) not trying to defend yours so do not try to prove atheism! Remember, it's much easier to destroy than build up.
3. When referring to atheists always use power-filled terms like 'intelligent, educated, thinkers, strong minded and independent.'
4. Ensure you call Christians childish degrading names like, pathetic air-heads, pointless God-bother-er's, deluded bible kissers and insult them with statements which include the terms like ignorant, clueless, uneducated. The goal here is to provoke and frustrate the Christian to the point they become angry, then, you can then claim they are a hypocrite for not being 'loving like Jesus.'
5. Always talk about just being a good person remembering that, 'good' is relative to each people and culture, just like cannibals who say 'I really enjoyed eating Bill last night, he was really 'good', or paedophiles saying 'they love little Janet, she was so 'good' or Hitler saying that killing Jews is 'good.' You are allowed to define 'good' however you would like because there is no higher authority to define what 'good' is. No one can set the objective moral standard as that would put them in the place of thinking they are 'god.'
6. Be sure to set your own moral standards and compass very, very, very low so that you'll never look like a hypocrite in public. The lower the better.
7. Be as argumentative, obnoxious, loud, sarcastic and verbal as possible - there is no need to make sense or use logic in your arguments - just keep arguing.
8. Use words like 'straw-man,' 'circular reasoning,' 'ad hominem,' 'fallacy,' 'red herring' and 'non sequiturs' against any argument which reveals the false claims of atheism whether you understand those terms or not.
9. Never answer any justified question directly but quickly change the subject to make a completely different point. If you're asked why you keep changing the subject just repeat this step as necessary.
10. Always bring up examples like the spaghetti monster, Zeus, and Santa Claus to prove that if you must believe in one God then you have to believe in all of them, right?!
11. Always ask for 'evidence' for the existence of God but never accept anything presented to you especially when you are told that God is a Spirit so you can not perceive Him with the physical senses or with any physical equipment. Also ignore the reply that 'God is God and he does not need to 'prove' himself to his creation, we are to answer to Him, He does not answer to us!' At the end of a discussion remind them that all you needed was some type of 'evidence' for God.
12. Use the Christian crusades, the Salem witch hunts, and the Inquisition which happened hundreds of years ago to 'prove' how bad 'religion' is for the world.
13. Use steps 7 through 9 to get away from any historical facts of all the good that the various Christian charities have done around the world through the centuries.
14. Express disinterest and laugh out loud at the question "Isn't it amazing that Christians continue to preach love and forgiveness to the world given the historical fact atheists have committed the most ongoing blatant atrocities against Christians. Shouldn't these Christians, 'who you claim are the problem,' in retribution, have wiped atheists from the face of the earth for the crimes atheists have committed against Christians, rather than continue to preach love, acceptance and tolerate you.
15. Blindly ignore any questions about millions of Christians being killed by atheists in the last 200 years, but if questions persist claim that this was NOT done 'in the name' of atheism , which makes it alright. Failing this, refer to steps 7 through 9, this should get you past any awkward questions about atheists who are guilty of crimes against humanity, human genocide and ethnic cleansing.
16. Remember to call yourself a "free-thinker" and "open-minded" but ensure you do not practice what you preach with such 'virtues' when it comes to Christianity. Being open-minded with Christians is not an option available to the atheists as this would open a can of worms we do not want to get into, you must understand that you are not 'free-to-think' that 'there is a God.'
17. Try to laugh out loud or make some disparaging noise every time a Christian makes a statement about what they believe, even if you don't think it is funny or you don't know what they are talking about or you may think they have a good point just try to make them look stupid with your laugh or disrespectful noise.
18. Claim that atheism is for intelligent people who are rooted in "rational, reasonable common sense" thinking even though you can not provide any 'rational, reasonable common sense' explanation for the existence of matter or the cause of the ignition of 'life' or our existence, ignore the fact that less than 10% of the human population claim to be atheists and then use steps 7 through 9 to get away from the question: "what does that say about the other 90% of humanity?"
19. Confess to everyone that you were once a Christian but you saw that all Christians were just hypocrites and realised that reasonable scientific, rational, logical investigation is the only way to truly understand the world we live in. Note: Ignore the hypocrisy in your own life when you pray in troubled times!
20. Refuse to accept or believe anything in the Bible because it was written by MEN.
21. Believe and quote other writings of MEN to prove that the Bible is wrong. Note: completely ignore the inconsistency between steps 20 & 21
22. When referring to the Bible use the words 'myth,' 'fables,' 'fairytales,' 'ideas' and 'opinions' as often as possible. Note: Ignore the question or use steps 7 to 9 to answer the question 'don't you believe your books and writings of science written by men just like we believe our Bible which was written by men?"
23. Only use the Bible as the authority when it will advance the atheist religion and will contribute to the atheist dogmas and doctrines. Ignore the question 'You have quoted the bible as evidence, so if the bible is true in one place the entire bible must be true, so what about the scripture that says, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN or THE LORD IS GOOD AND HIS MERCY ENDURES FOREVER or WHERE GOD REVEALS HIS MERCIFUL NATURE WHEN HE SENT JONAH AND SPARED THE EVIL CITY OF NINEVEH?'
24. Only quote the Bible verses that put God in a bad light, make sure every scripture quoted makes God look like a mean, unfair judge and never ever allow anyone to quote scriptures which show Him in the positive light of a loving heavenly father.
25. Tell everyone you have read the Bible and that you understand what it teaches whether you have or have not, even if you have only read the parts which support your argument and the atheistic religion, you have still 'read the bible,' right!?
26. Refer to step 7 through 9 when once you have stated that the problem in the world is religion, but it is then pointed out to you that atheism is a religion its self with it's own evangelical preachers who preach their own doctrines based on their own bible called 'The origins of the species.'
27. Reject all notions that you live by faith even though you must put your faith in the writings of your own atheist high priests and gurus like Darwin, Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens and Atkins and any other book that supports your 'beliefs.' Yes we put our faith in pilots, cars, food, doctors, evolution, and the next chair that you sit in but ignore this obvious flaw in our doctrine as well.
28. Make the claim that you only have one life and don't want to waste it on religion, then ignore your own hypocrisy by living out your own self-serving religion of atheism.
29. If your conscience begins to bother you because of moral guilt you can numb it with arrogance, self-deception, self- importance, judgement of the 'religious' (Christians) people, delusions of NO coming judgement and if this fails try some drugs, alcohol, sex, rape, murder whatever you feel like, remember, 'good' is relative and you only have one life, so live it, best of all there is no hell, right?
30. If doing the drugs and stuff does not appeal to you and you want to appear as a 'morally' upstanding person of the community, don't do the all those things but never let go of your self righteous arrogance and pride. It is this pride that will get you through many a hard times when you are struggling with a question of conscience and of your atheistic faith.
errr, ummm , just in a final note, you never know, so just is case, every day , thank God for the free-will he has given you to express your religion of atheism as-you-see-fit, there just maybe hell to pay but ignore that reality and replace it with your own atheistic reality , for now, any-way, maybe?!
analice107: You misunderstand me. I didn't say he is every where at the same time, No. What i mean is that, he is a spirit so can not be limited by space and distance unlike us humans. They float.
If he were Omnipresent, he wouldn't have monitoring agents like the atheists here on Nl pretending he doesn't exist just to cause distraction.
he's the god of this age...this world's system: Politics, education, cultures etc. Reason why we are not to conform to this world, cos we are not of this world.... we're from above. We are called to shine as lights in this dark world. Romans 12:2; John 17:14,16
how can you conform to something that is ALREADY yours...and you are Christ and Christ is God's?
He rules the world's Systems by taking over and manipulating men's minds by making them do his biddings. thought processes. He ruled Adolf Hitlers mind, he rules today in every Muslim mind, his ruling in the minds of our political leaders.
The 'World' here doesn't include the constellations and weather conditions. He doesn't have that power
Seriously, Satan has as much power as MEN GIVES TO HIM. Hand over your mind, and Satan becomes your god. Take charge of your mind and he falls flat on his face.
amen... we are the true gods... but he uses deception to use men's power to wreak havoc on man....
Have I always loved God my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul and strength? ____YES ___NO Have I made a god in my own image? a god to suit myself? ____YES ___NO Have I ever used God's name in vain? ____YES ___NO Have I kept the Sabbath holy? ____YES ___NO Have I always honoured my parents implicitly? ____YES ___NO Have I murdered (God considers hatred as murder)? ____YES ___NO Have I committed adultery (including premarital sex and lust)? ____YES ___NO Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)? ____YES ___NO Have I lied (including fibs and these questions)? ____YES ___NO Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)? ____YES ___NO
aaronson: I'm still wondering to myself, how did Albert Einstein ever know gravitational wave was responsibly for gravity? That guy is greater than God for having such a bright mind, Even God the owner of the said universe can not put checks and balances to such disastrous disaster like hurricane. I believed if Einstein was still alive, he would have proffered solution to help Astrophysicist solve this hurricane disaster.
wish pigs could talk they would have gladly called you less than slime...
OLAADEGBU: "But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin" (1 John 1:7).
The more reason you should stay in fellowship with God and the brethren who are in fellowship with Him and by so doing His blood cleanses us from all sin.
so you are saying that even though you are in fellowship with God and the brethern, you can/may still commit sin(s) but because of the above fellowship, the blood of Christ will cleanse you from such sin(s).
TheCabal: Actually, I rather they are cordoned. Let the people in the east accept or reject IPOB.
Till they start reclaiming their Nigerian citizenships after their sons have been decapitated and daughters raped and impregnated by ill seeds like the people in Borno.
Right now, their belle dey sweet. For thier mind "we go show awusa, we pepper yoruba".
Olodo them think sey Chinedu for Sokoto abi Maduka for Lagos go carry IED enter marketplace. If the fire erupts, let it burn in the east for a few days - so it is clear that other regions of the federal republic with not join in this madness.
Highest we donate relief materials
i condemn your foolish post.. opc leader is addressing twisted and sectional plans by buhari as the cause of the agitation you are here addressing the smoke... quench the fire and no smoke (ipob). and mind you.. southern kaduna bassa saduana agatu etc all in the middlebelt all have felt the sectional bais of this buhari and you think they will just sit and watch
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Money Rituals Actually Work? by uvalued(m): 1:55am On Sep 17, 2017
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