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And so? Soludo laid the foundations for Islamic banking in Nigeria. What does that make him? Really, whining about Islamic economics is one of the ways through which I identify ignorants. Perhaps it's the name. It is simply a system at the centre of which is the prohibition of usury and promotion of fairness in financial transactions, which by the way, is not unique to Islam.

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A simple message: if you're angry with the present government, exercise restraint for now and come Feb 14, show your anger using your PVC.

stexsy:
so where are the armouries? Abi na only bullet him spend such amount on?

If he actually spend such n there is no war involving Nigeria till date, wia r they armouries?

Na sticks we been dey carry go dem Darfur and Liberia and Sierra Leone?

revolt:
what evidence? If buhari really upgraded military hardware as u pointed out, how come when we list our military arsenal aside the upgrades made by GEj its still the MIGs and ships bought by gowon. And perhaps a c130 ibb or obj ( not too sure ) purchased, take it or leave it GEJ has invested heavily on defense. Thanks to military Corruption there's still not enough.

Bros, we no get MIGs. What we have are alpha jets. The newer Chengdu J-7 Airguards, which were developed from the MIG-21 (perhaps that's what you were referring to) that we have were purchased by Yar'adua.

And since you said "thanks to military corruption..." don't you think a former military man (a general and head of state, no less) would have a much higher ability to curb military corruption than an academic who did not have anything to do with the military until he became it's commander-in-chief?

papaejima1:
Beats my imagination how people reason upside down!
If our military had all the purported weapons as is being trumpeted about, how come the same opposition is complaining the Boko Haram is better equipped than the Nigerian Military?

Boko Haram fights with IEDs, quad barreled Shilkas, Hilux mounted Anti Aircraft guns and AK47s. The APCs they use are our T-55s and others captured in raids.

So where are the ones Buhari and co bought if the above scenario plays true?

Chief, do you not realize that 1984 was a long time ago? All the peacekeeping we've been going to, which equipment have we been using? Sierra Leone, Liberia, Sudan etc. And FYI, some of the Alpha jets bought during that time are still up and running. This I know for a fact. The jet that "disappeared" in Adamawa some time ago was one of them. If you don't believe me, Google is your friend.

Saw it too. Sad.

nuclearboy:
Somebody for just throw one banger for there! Just one banger, only

Funny anarchist. lol

olapluto:
Something is fishy. I wait for more info to clear my doubts.

What do you wanna know?

ok o

This is certainly not news to some of us. It's almost like standard procedure in Nigeria when a military head of state is ousted in a coup. Even the biography we read here on Nairaland mentioned that his personal property was looted. Buhari just doesn't want to talk about it, understandably. People forget IBB was his close friend and chief of army staff.

Plus there's no contradiction here. There are supposed to be copies of Buhari's credentials with the military (unless of course what happened to the originals happened to the copies too). And I wouldn't be surprised if they're the only copies because this is a full-blood military man who has not had to submit his credentials to any organization outside of the military during his career up to the coup.

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I'm kinda lost here. First, he's very right that spreading fear is bad, however the Nigerian military have been known to downplay security incidents. Now that may well be purely because they don't want to spread panic, but then in the Nigerian political era of today it could be so as not to give the government a bad name. I think the truth, as they say, is somewhere in-between. As for the conversation, I think she took more offence than was meant (if any at all) and I'm sure the general must have heard of the incident before she did.

LRNZH:
As at the time of the coup and following Bako's death, General Buhari was commanding the Third Armoured Division of the Nigerian Army in Jos, Plateau State and he was far from the center of action in Lagos State. An agreement was reached and Buhari was selected to become the head. A jet was dispatched to Jos later bring Buhari who was not in the meeting.

To cut long story short...lol, Buhari was 'elected' as the Head of State and the Commander-in-Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces and his appointment was formalized on the 1st of January, 1984.[/i]

HISTORY: BUHARI’S FIRST SPEECH AFTER THE MILITARY COUP OF 31ST DECEMBER 1983

In pursuance of the primary objective of saving our great nation from total collapse, I, Major-General Muhammadu Buhari of the Nigerian army have, after due consultation amongst the services of the armed forces, been formally invested with the authority of the Head of the Federal Military Government and the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It is with humility and a deep sense of responsibility that I accept this challenge and call to national duty.

[size=14pt]So Buhari was never a coupist. He was chosen to lead the military government after the damage (of overthrowing a democratically-elected gov't) had been done. Q.E.D.[/size]

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obailala:
My dear, the reason behind this thread was to simply proof that GMB bought at least a single rifle as against the shameful verbal outbursts of GEJ. Except you are still shamefully insisting (just like Gej) that Nigeria didnt buy a single rifle in 1984, It makes no sense for me to start undergoing intensive research to get exact figures.

Exactly!

eagleeye2:
Am sorry but how does that link settle it. Rather it begs more question. Because apart from the Albatross which delivery was made in 1986, non of those other ones was delivered during Buhari's tenure as head of state.

Read it properly. 12 Alpha Jets received in 1985.

I knew because of the fact that deliveries for some of these stuff take time, that the imports chart for 84-85 might not necessarily mean it was Buhari that ordered all of them, some might have been by Shagari. But what it does settle is that Buhari did purchase defense equipment. And mind you this report is on aircraft alone. It says that Buhari's government was

"committed to continuing the defence buildup planned by
the previous administration. Many contracts
have been renegotiated however, and options
allowed to lapse. A reported 1984 reorder for 12
MiG-21s does not appear to have resulted in
any deliveries so far... A second batch of 12 Alpha
Jets was received in 1985, these aircraft being
armed with gun pods for the attack role,
replacing MiG-17Fs... Twelve AS.332 Super
Pumas are believed to be on order, and some of
the SA.330 Pumas may be returned to France in
part payment..."

The bolded clearly indicate activity during Buhari's regime.

ocelot2006:
No! List those aircrafts yourself. Name ONE aircraft type GMB bought. Just ONE.

ocelot2006:
Blah blah blah freaking blah. LIST OF AIRCRAFT GMB BOUGHT! Simple.

ocelot2006:
It was mentioned by "Hon" Dabiri that GMB spent $514mil on aircrafts. My question is relevant cos I want to know which aircraft he purchased for NAF. It's that simple.

[size=14pt]Oh the internet is wonderful. Here you go chief:

I think this settles this matter for good. Not necessarily in terms of the figures, but that Buhari certainly purchased a lot more than a single rifle during his tenure. Oh, and here's the link to the original content: http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1987/1987%20-%202524.html[/size]

Okay MissMeiya and akereconfi, you guys should chill out. I hate it when civil discussions descend into insults. But I guess this is what happens sometimes when people jump into arguments without proper research simply because they find something hard to believe.

Go and do research before showcasing your ignorance

[size=14pt]And for the last time, 541 million dollars on aircraft not 541 aircraft!!![/size]

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2021793_imag00411_jpeg450665750d65c8b2558a106ecc371af2

Hehe I just generated my own

Flets:
you are actually dumber with your position. If what you are telling me is correct, it means GEJ only $1M on armoured tanks in 2014 while Buhari spent $541M on aircrafts in 1984?

How does that sound to you? How many armoured tanks have we seen the FG purchase in the past few years that they only amount to $1M... where are the $541m Aircrafts and which war where they used for? where are they parked and who received them at purchase.... rubbish!!!

GEJ was correct, Buhari never purchased a rifle, otherwise all these useless propaganda to cover his arse will not even come up.

I don't know about Buhari's defense expenditure but I can tell you that as far as GEJ's defense expenditure is concerned, I'm more in the know about it than the average Nigerian and I can tell you that this government only started buying armored vehicles in 2014 (as far as taking delivery of them is concerned, at least) and the chart says GEJ's expenditure between 2010 and 2013.

Flets:
A typical APC politician believes propaganda is everything. They assume every Nigerian is dumb and once they throw numbers out... gullible Nigerians will run with it.

541 aircrafts in 1984, when they argued Nigeria was broke.... Why are these APC people very stupid.

I seriously pity Nigeria should APC ever get into power. Things will get ugly so quickly

See this one, it's 541 million USD on aircraft not 541 aircraft.

[size=14pt]Please people, that is not the number of equipment purchased rather the amount spent on them in millions of dollars! Can't you see they add up to the monetary total boldly written beside?

Slow Nigerians![/size]

aguiyi:
Abike abi na Abiku be your name, abeg park well.

Arms that were purchased on paper is what you are showing. Pls show us were the equipment are or the scrap


541 aircraft and 160 air defense system

Even if they have gone bad, show us were the scraps are

It is not the number of equipment purchased rather the amount spent on them in millions of dollars! Can't you see they add up to the monetary total boldly written beside?

[size=14pt]Please people, that is not the number of equipment purchased rather the amount spent on them in millions of dollars! Can't you see they add up to the monetary total boldly written beside?[/size]

EDIT: After doing some research, I found this on the internet:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2021939_19872524page001_jpeg6aa34587956b3550eef29f71b5bfc08e
www.nairaland.com/attachments/2021942_19872524page001a_jpega34173a30db6ebb848cb676544707b4e

Original link: http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1987/1987%20-%202524.html

I think that settles this matter, not necessarily in terms of the exact figures, but that Buhari certainly purchased a hell of a lot more than a single rifle during his tenure.

#IAmForTruth

bushdoc9919:
Here is what Nigeria must do
1.Remove fuel subsidy. Invest half the money in technical education...the other half in power and rail transport.
2.Raise education spending to 26% of the budget....and spend more on primary and secondary education. Raise university fees to 150,000 naira per semester. All universities to be public private institutions (Sorry....but you are not diminished by not having BSc). Technical schools/polys are to be made free of charge...
3.Spend more on security. Set up a Special Purpose Unit of the Armed Forces to engage in assymetric warfare....with the aim of beating Boko Haram.
4.Spend more on power. At the same time attract foreign investors...to come and set up industries that will train our people...and give them jobs.
5.End corruption.No exceptions.No more story.You caught...you get jail....even if you are as close to the President like leaves to trees...
6.Improve learning in our mother tongue....and at the same time improve technology that would enable communication across tribes.
Nigerians...we can do it.

Even if what you stole is not up to the price of a Peugeot

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Crocz:
Interesting development...I'm so excited for this election, can't wait for APC to retaliate and then PDP and then APC and then....


#The Observer

#TheAnarchist rather.

Even your boss that has been talking about "rifle" and "phone number" and "price of a Peugeot" (I still can't believe he said that) has not mentioned certificate because he knows it is a no-go area in the sense that he knows for a fact that Buhari's qualifications are indisputable. I still can't wrap my head around the thinking of some Nigerians who sincerely believe Buhari is an illiterate because he has so far not produced his particulars.

Wait and see how some people will still try to twist and discredit this noble move. What's wrong with giving a thumbs up to this man and still supporting the candidate of your choice?