Anyhow wey dem do am

@freeradical
@Taofaj4u
@epic5

@all that liked their posts in agreement

Thanks a lot guys for such solid advice. Respect.

NLNG una see una life? Now I'm being offered an opportunity to attend a prestigious and world renowned institution (as far as my field is concerned) and I'm still dreaming of NLNG and waiting on them to tell me my fate. If I knew for sure, I would pass on this opportunity. But since I don't, obviously I can't not pursue this with all diligence in case I don't make it. I know the verdict is almost out according to the oracles but I don't think it will be out in time for me to make my decision simple and straightforward. By anything a week into June I imagine I won't be able to back out of this opportunity without implications which I would really like to avoid. The same June we're waiting for (unless NLNG calls very early June or even earlier). So you see the "move on with your life and answer whenever NLNG calls" advice won't work so well here. Some would say this is a good kind of dilemma to be in. But it is still a dilemma.

NLNG #makawhy?

Ok

Ezinne1990:
Page 400, 400, 400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are so not serious. Page 200 was a good 6 months ago and for like half the time there was much more of us before the pack became smaller. So in short, expect page 400 in 2017 when we for don tey for bonny.

I tire for some people matter

naastyme:

My take home? Even if the discussion had continued till "due course" no agreement would probably still be reached. The reason is simple. THERE IS NO CLASH OF INTEREST WHATSOEVER. Enquiry by the enquirers does not in anyway affect the due course of the due coursees.

Lol @ the bolded. Don't worry, it has been settled. The recruitment team has never spent more than 5 months without communicating to us concerning one thing or the other, so based on that the decision has been postponed to the end of June which would make it 5 months since the "in due course" notification.

Make NLNG will just say "only those who've posted on the long-awaited page 300 shall be absorbed. They are really the ones whose hearts and minds are with us"

majekdom2:

if you say that something will happen in due course, you mean that it will happen at a suitable time in the future .

In other words, they will surely get back to us one day - be it today, next week, next month or next year or in a few years or longer. Basically, "in due course" has no expiry date. The only thing is that we won't just hear in the news that the recruitment has been cancelled or something like that. Even if they decide to cancel it, they will inform us expressly.

The issue here is that some are trying to determine how long "in due course" should be based on what is reasonable and so while for some three months is reasonable enough, some are considering five months, which is end of Q2 etc, which is totally subjective because people are different. The only definition of reasonable timeframe that matters is theirs.

So, how do we determine their idea of how long that is? Well, I looked up the various durations between notifications throughout the history of this process and the longer ones are the four months between SHL and the December notification that AC will be Q1 2015, and the three months between that one and the next one explaining how Q1 was no longer happening due to elections. But the longest one was post-AC to the "in due course" mail, which was around five months, and this is three months and change from that notification. So, even though the circumstances were different every time, I will still extrapolate from that data. If after five months we hear nothing, then we will know that we are in uncharted territory and it wouldn't be unreasonable for hopefuls to start thinking of what to do. Even then we could add another month as margin of error.

forkadict:

Another case is a few pages back when someone (I can't remember specifically but I thin it's @vantage7) quoted the profit from the latest edition of facts and figures and said something like even tho the profit for the year under review dipped, GTs annual remuneration is peanuts when compared with the profit declared. If these 2 cases cited do not buttress my point about folks trying to determine what ought other ought not be NLNG'S priorities, I don't know what else can.

E be like say small small the jabs don dey reach my side. Make I kuku defend before e go reach uppercut. I almost always attach a disclaimer that my own is mere speculation. See example:

vantage7:
This is the fun part. GT hopefuls speculating on the implications of any new developments concerning the company or the commodities (oil & gas) while knowing that in reality it might not be as black and white as that or that the thought process of the board and management might be different from ours. In any case, I'll join in. I completely agree with @NPComplete. Obviously two smaller trains will require more manpower than one large one mainly due to duplication of activities, but the main advantages lie in redundancy, ease of maintenance, familiarity amongst others. And these are projects for the future and we are manpower for the future so logically, this new plan should warrant an upward review of the number of proposed GT intakes. Seconded.

I'm not trying to tell them what to do, just looking for a plausible reason as to the delay so much some occasionally throw jabs saying we are defending them and worse.

But I think the main driving force behind all that is an attempt to keep the conversation going and the thread moving (I'm sure even Seun would be happy for that)

I have said it before and still stand by it: This delay can't be about our remuneration packages. It has to be something much bigger and much more consequential. This is a multi-billion dollar company and it's not like they are employing a thousand GTs. Something relating to long-term strategic planning which includes major projects sounds much more plausible to me. And think not that they don't know that this process has dragged on for way longer than it should. Trust me, they know.

Shey una don hear? Notwithstanding the frustration, you the cream of the crop should refrain from doing anything uncharacteristic of an elite group that is for all intents and purposes the future of the world-class company that is NLNG.

Dfavouredone:
The wait is somewhat annoying, and it's understandable if we feel agitated.

What we should ask ourselves is if there is anything we could do to voice our discomfort in this delay without undermining the process.

Venting our displeasure in the delay without channeling it towards a result will only provide emotional succour but it doesn't change the status quo.

I will suggest like before, that we should bombard them with mild email requesting updates on the process.

Remember, this was what we were about doing in January, before they sent the last emails.

Hehe, I remember we'd planned to bombard them after an ultimatum and next thing you know mails were flying in. Now as good as it feels to think that it was what prompted them, that we somehow demanded action and got it, I really don't think that was the case. I think it was just that we'd somewhat run out of patience (who wouldn't?) and options and we resolved not to continue with the acquiescence and it so happened that they responded right at that time. But hey, you never know.

freeradical:
Calling some people to resume is not a problem. NLNG reserves the right to the number of candidates it wants to employ from this recruitment. What is expected of them is to act like a responsible company and get this thing over with. If one is not picked now I doubt it will make any difference because the zeal to work for NLNG has really grown cold on every body. Almost everyone is now planning his life beyond NLNG so there is no big deal. NLNG is only a means to end and not the end in itself. There are endless possibilities for us out there and only those that seek these opportunities will find them.
By the way I do not think anyone has been called yet because from the circle of peeps I know still left no one has been contacted. And it is quite a substantial number.

Well in that case, why don't they just cancel this recruitment and conduct a fresh one to avoid hiring people who've already lost their zeal for the job and the company at large?

prelinctus:
@lobito007, kindly send him a direct message. You've already broken 'Rule 1' twice.

It is related abeg. Moreover, he started off thinking what he's looking for has to do with NLNG and what I have done is try to point him in the right direction.

lobito007:

Oh my! Many thanks for taking out time to make this lengthy contribution. Your knowledge about the industry is quite deep. If I may crave your indulgence of further questions, what in details is power sector, upstream generation? Never heard of that really. Did u mean generation of power for upstream oil and gas operations? Generally, can you please write on the career prospects/functional areas of a power engineer in the oil industry. Again, thanks a bunch.

My bad, I only used the fancy word to refer to the generation section of the power sector since it is "upstream" in the value chain but it is rarely used that way. It is mostly just called generation. I really do not know that much about career prospects of power engineers in the oil and gas sector, but ladyF mentioned for instance that NLNG uses part of the feed gas to generate their own power which is true and so do flow stations which are basically field processing facilities for oil and gas, also called production facilities. Part of the gas along the process, termed fuel gas, is used to fire gas generators to generate power for the facility. You might want to look around those areas in the oil and gas industry even though clearly they are auxiliary hence smaller areas compared to what is obtainable within the power generation sector where power generation is the core process. That's all I know. You should probably ask oil and gas industry veterans they might have more for you.

lobito007:
OMG! Sighting this thread triggers memories. I was a hopeful until after the SHL test, when I got the 'unsuccessful' mail. Need some insights from you guys. I have always heard this classification of Gas&Power as a business venture. Yes, gas is used in generating power. However, I wish to unravel this: In gas exploration companies like NLNG, what are the career prospects for an Msc degree in Power Engineering (coupled with a B.Eng. in Mechanical Engineering)? Your ever-brilliant contributions are highly anticipated. Thank you.

Okay first, NLNG is not a "gas exploration company" as you said. Basically what they do is receive feed gas from suppliers (the oil and gas companies) and they process, liquefy and export as LNG and natural gas liquids, NGL. Then there's also the LPG branch for the domestic market. Oil and gas companies do the gas exploration and production. But a lot of the time, the gas is that which is produced from oil wells alongside oil unintended (called associated gas, AG) which would have been flared, but then there are dedicated gas wells which the bulk of the feed gas comes from.

Now, the gas to power you are referring to, that has nothing to do with NLNG. The gas power plants in the country are being supplied by the Nigerian Gas Company, NGC, which is a subsidiary of NNPC. They gather, treat, transmit and market natural gas to major industrial facilities like power plants and factories like Dangote's cement plants, which means they operate a network of pipelines. That is in addition to their gas export mandate via pipelines like the West African Gas Pipeline, WAGP, to Ghana, Togo and Benin, and the proposed Trans-Saharan Gas Pipeline to Europe. I think that is where your attention should be. With the MSc you should be looking at the power sector. With your mechanical engineering background you'd want to be at the power plants. Hence power sector, upstream - generation.

ethene:

And u think $4b is not big enough to affect a company's plan regarding recruitment?

Okay for instance, if you look at the data carefully from 2008 onward (after their last expansion, train 6) I don't think you'd be able to see a correlation between their revenue in a year and their capital spending that year or the following year. Apparently, they spend whenever necessary, not whenever they make much. That is a forward-thinking company.

So I've browsed through NLNG's facts and figures document for 2016 which for the most part isn't different from those of the previous years except a few important additions such as the financials. That company makes money. It strengthened my latest line of thought about this process which is that I don't think this latest holdup is mainly about the economics of employing this or that number of GTs. I think it has mainly to do with the long-term planning of the company. I mean, this is a company that made almost $7b in revenue in 2015 (even though that was down about $4b from the previous year), surely our remuneration package shouldn't be a sticking point. Clearly they are bigger than that.

When I say long-term planning, consider this latest change of plans to unbundle the proposed train 7 into two smaller trains 7 and 8, surely that will change manpower plans. Another thing that further supports the probability that it is the main reason behind the delay is that the change of plans became public knowledge only recently means it has been on the table for months at least and a change of such magnitude with its attendant implications has the potential to delay many decisions from the day it was first mooted. And since these are projects for the future, the manpower group it should affect the most is GT because we are manpower for the future as well.
Hopefully it's all for the best. Let's wait and see.

naastyme:


hmmm....I like your style. Start with a bang! This is your first post here and yet you are so eager to meet?

Do you know for how long he's wanted to post that since the idea for the meetups came about (which is the main reason why he bothered to register at all) but he's since been held back by that annoying "Sorry, you can't post in this section yet..."

Okay, so with this news of a possible upward review of intakes possibly due to train 8 (I know, info from a single source hardly constitutes legit inside info but then logic and common sense supports that argument as has been postulated above) what's to say that this long wait might turn out to be not such a bad thing after all?

This is the fun part. GT hopefuls speculating on the implications of any new developments concerning the company or the commodities (oil & gas) while knowing that in reality it might not be as black and white as that or that the thought process of the board and management might be different from ours. In any case, I'll join in. I completely agree with @NPComplete. Obviously two smaller trains will require more manpower than one large one mainly due to duplication of activities, but the main advantages lie in redundancy, ease of maintenance, familiarity amongst others. And these are projects for the future and we are manpower for the future so logically, this new plan should warrant an upward review of the number of proposed GT intakes. Seconded.

See our people o!

Breaking News – NLNG announces plan for Train 8

...integrates it into train 7

12 April 2016, Sweetcrude, Lagos – The Nigeria LNG Limited, NLNG, has announced plan to introduce an additional train to its six existing trains at its operational base on Bonny Island, Rivers State.

The new train, added to the existing six and a seventh train that had been on the drawing board for over 10 years, brings the total number of trains at the NLNG plant to 8.

Announcing this in Lagos, the company said the new Train 8 would be developed together with Train 7.



…Details coming soon.

Well, we are still waiting.

The funds are easily traceable because it's an electronic transfer to ANOTHER account. I mean, you might lose the money for a few days but in the end you'll get it back and the criminals arrested

StringerBell:
Don't be afraid, even if you're headed in the wrong direction, it's in your best interest to get there early.

Lol

cattysmilez:


"Sauce" or "intuition"?

You are too polite. Question should have been "conjecture or wishful thinking?"

But seriously, this set of GT intakes look set to become exceptional given the amount of bonding time we've had which could mean hitting the ground running when it comes to any sort of team activity. I mean, we all know ourselves already. 2+ years no be small o. (I personally started following this thread March 2014 on the day of the WAEC test) On induction day please everyone pin your moniker next to your real name so we can easily put a face to the online persona. But then that only happens if a sizeable number of us make it through. We might as well just do the meetups and then in the end whatever happens happens. At least we've made new proper friends not just monikers.

Then to the small matter of some of our personas that have somehow stood out for the wrong reasons, I'd like to say that we are human beings and as such have shortcomings and people are just the way they are. We all interact with people at our various places of endeavour and we know for a fact that people are just people. For me it's not really an issue people being occasionally impatient, too quick to judge, disrespectful, unforgiving, arrogant, ungrateful etc as long as they have the humility to afterwards offer or accept an apology and take correction.

What I've said is nothing we don't already know, I just thought we needed to be reminded.

The numbers just don't add up in my head...but then, I no longer care about the numbers

So according to oga Babs Omotowa, the FID for NLNG back then was taken when oil was at $20 and that "with the cyclic movement of oil prices, there is no better time to invest in oil and gas projects..." my question is, does this investment include the recruitment of GTs?

peacengine:


362 slots for the North is a crime considering the level of education over there. This is why we will not move forward.

Simple question, have you ever been to the north?

daresimon:
l don't think there is a problem, unless they want to make one. The north has 300+ there considering their educational status.

You are not serious. You mean to tell me you can't get more than 80 people qualified enough to work for the CBN from the north-east? Then how do you explain how the south-west, the most erudite geopolitical zone of the country have less than the south-south? No just go there.

cattysmilez:


And there are some 5/6 pple who i know got the "in the running" mail but might most likely not be on nairaland or are guests

And that's just you. Others might know some too. As for me, all the people I know personally are out of the running. I'm the only one left. But for this thread, I wouldn't have anyone to discuss this recruitment process with.

I think those of us here could possibly exceed the first republic and even reach the Gowon era as some of us probably haven't visited this thread in the last couple of days due to the apathy occasioned by the recent "move on with your life" comments by insiders and outsiders alike. Remember the population during the few days after the last batch of mails dropped (though a sizeable percentage were guests and others whom had been dropped but were keeping us company for a little while like maguy whats.upguys)

In any case, well done naastyme