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tintingz:
Like someone said why not go ahead and refute what I said.

MuttleyLaff:
Oii, and there you go being stereotypical about Nigerian

tintingz:
Can you tell us why or how Homosexuality came into behavior in some humans and animals?

tintingz:
I'm not Homosexual,

If Homosexuals is not natural, it shouldn't exist in the first place!

budaatum:
No, an atheist president is not the way forward for Nigeria, that is, if the assumption is that she should wage war against the current religions and impose atheism instead.

No Nigerian president should be allowed to impose their religion on others. If the atheist gets away with imposing atheism, a Spaghetti Monsterist might take over at the following election and use the precedent set to impose Spaghettism on us. I am sure no one would like their children to have to say the Pastarferian Prayer at school assembly every morning.

Our pasta, who art in a colander, draining be your noodles. Thy noodle come, Thy sauce be yum, on top some grated Parmesan. Give us this day, our garlic bread, …and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trample on our lawns. And lead us not into vegetarianism, but deliver us some pizza, for thine is the meatball, the noodle, and the sauce, forever and ever. R’amen.

hopefulLandlord:
that's a very good explanation

If I'm brain dead, I'm no longer me I'm afraid

If I no longer have memory of my family, daughter, former colleagues, bossiness associates, where I've been, friends, well wishers, neighbours, each names of the listed, best food, goals, achievements, milestones, girlfriend, past girlfriends, the happy and sad moments, the ups and downs

Then I'm no longer "Me", Yes! I'd still be me according to Olodumare (assuming he exists and Yoruba traditional belief is true) but that's as good as me remembering my computer is still mine despite the fact that I just formatted it. To me, its still my computer but to the computer (assuming its totally wiped clean and only hardwares are intact) its a NEW computer which its master is now putting to use

I think the difference boils down to what view we have of it, the view of the computer about itself is limited so it sees itself as new while the maker or user knows that its not new. I think I am the computer and Olodumare is the User or maker

hopefulLandlord:
Nice!

2. is it possible to solve all the challenges in one's previous life?

1. I'm finding this hard to understand, as far as I my knowledge is concerned, those thoughts prejudices and experiences are actually what makes me, without these things I'll be blank and since there's nothing in this life I'll take to the next life (except the blank state I got in here with) then "me" is just meaningless

I'm finding it hard putting my thoughts to words right now but I hope you'll be charitable enough to fill in the blanks

hopefulLandlord:
That's educating

1. So it's not really me that's reincarnating? I mean I'm stripped of all memories, thoughts, prejudices and experiences so did I "reincarnate"? seems to me like whatever makes me up is gone and my spirit just enters another womb

2. Does this mean that the bad we experience in this life is caused by our choices in previous life?

hopefulLandlord:
So I'm still gonna live another life? would I have the memory of this life in my next life? And shat are you views on suicide considering this belief of yours, I could just kill myself if I feel life isn't dealing me the hand I want so I can reincarnate and probably get dealt a better hand, what are your thoughts?

hopefulLandlord:
What makes one qualified for reincarnation or is it for everyone? or is it arbitrary?

FeelDeMusic:
Awww, that sucks. Well hopefully they'll start back up again.

Just so you're aware my timezone is way behind yours so don't think I'm just writing at 12:38 AM! LOL

hopefulLandlord:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

FeelDeMusic:
Interesting! Is this from the Ifa Foundation? I actually was on that site for some time looking at a lot of their posts and found them very cool.

I never really suggested there was any Heaven or Hell, but I thought that there was some kind of realm where the ancestors of people would go if they were decreed as such. If that's the case, what does it look like?

FeelDeMusic:
Hey, let's continue this thread! I enjoy the people I'm talking to on hear and think you all have a lot of cool and really interesting information to share!
Does the Yoruba ancestral realm have a sort of description like Heaven? Is it beautiful and big and sparkling? Or does it look just like Earth or the realm where the normal humans live? I'm sorry, I just find this so awesome, and since I'm a huge fantasy writer I'd really love to incorperate traditional Yoruba mythology and spiritual concepts into some stories I write.

DavidEsq:
Wat is false. That science never said so? Bro, b4 Nigeria had access to the Internet, that theory was already existing long ago.
Besides, u didn't answer respond to my assertions. To just say it's false, doesn't say anything in fact.

DavidEsq:
But that wld be a social evolution, which is very typical of humans. That is completely different from the form of evolution he espoused. That form of evolution has always stated dat man physiologically evolved from apes.

Xtopher123:
You correct, Science never said Monkeys transformed into man, science said Our Ancestors where once as timid as apes..

meaning they climed trees and lived in forests and caves

OkaiCorne:
There's another angle to this question I recently pondered on...and I wonder if people also ask...

Why does good things also happen to wicked people?

Does it mean God is merciful to the wicked but unfair to righteous people suffering?

When you ask these questions alongside what the OP asked...you'll have a broader perspective to this "organized chaos" called life...

budaatum:
Science does not have limitations. Human beings do. Science is just one more tool we use to understand the world we live in. It sets up criteria by which we judge. Otherwise, any statement could be accepted as the way things are and there would be no way to ascertain if Obatala created the first human or Yahweh done it instead. They can't both have created the first human afterall.

One should be careful of anthropomorphosising science, or philosophy for that matter. And filling the gaps of ones ignorance with gods is sheer laziness, in my opinion.

budaatum:
It is humans who are in their infancy.

OkaiCorne:
Definitely, Science has been extremely helpful in solving a lot of issues that might have been left in the realm of mysteries and I doff my hat for that... however, it's still a rapidly growing body of knowledge... and currently doesn't have answers to all of life's questions.

OkaiCorne:
The limitations of science can't even tell us how the jungle fowl came to be in the first place...yet people still hide under the cover of science to conclude no Creator exists...

What an irony...

I still have questions I'm hoping I can get intelligent answers to... especially from atheists

For example, what is responsible for instincts and intuitive knowledge in Man and animals?

I'm not obliging you to answer this though...it's just a rhetorical question...

budaatum:
I checked what wiki says about philosophy and found it puts across an adequate response to your question. Lets talk further after you've read the first two paragraphs.

budaatum:
I would not agree, and separating them makes for either a bad philosopher or a bad scientist. They may be different aspects of study, but in practice, the two, as methods of enquiry, must go together or that enquiry is not as wholesome or robust as can be. Even courses in either include the other.

Newton himself eventually combined the two, philosophically seeking the philosophers stone then scientifically applying the knowledge he derived to make himself a very wealthy man.

OkaiCorne:
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But then, this doesn't also apply in all cases...

godisgood200:
By Oduduwa Statue

godisgood200:
Vaxx na you be dat? You fynyo, even as d pisure far.

budaatum:
Funny. You yourself already combine them when you state "both of them can be combine[d] to study the assumptions, implications and limitations of natural science", and also when you claim, "the benchmark of science is logic and intuition. it is the duty of logic to occasionally tell science to adjust its perspective".

Goes to show how intertwined philosophy and science is, and should be, and separating the two, or doing one without the other can be perilous.

Good Sunday to you too dear friend.

budaatum:
Science is the systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.

The benchmarks are that it be testable, and that its predictions are verifiable. It has never departed from philosophy. The two go hand in hand.

What we are discussing here is an attempt to demystify the past. Early 'science' said a god done it. More recent science has made claims that are much closer to the truth than early science gave us. And, considering the greater opportunity early scientists have, and their opportunity to stand on the shoulders of all those who came before them, it is only personel bias that would make a reasonable person deny all the evidence provided and accept the earliest myths as being more accurate. And that's ok as a personal choice in ones personal realm.

Would I allow, if I were in the position to be allowing that is, the early science to be taught as opposed to modern day science? My answer is no! Countries that don't teach and practise modern day science tend to not create much for starts as they have no factories and more places of worship. Their people are unemployed and end up purchasing from those who do teach and practise modern day science. Such countries are called third world and considered underdeveloped at best, and the young would rather emigrate than stay in such countries that worship the gods but seem to be god forsaken!

frank317:
@vaxx what do u have to say