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No be this boy dey give uppercut wey come dey cry for us wey me sef dey pity am? |
Yeah, well, I really don't wanna disillusion you. Belief is held like a treasure sometimes. Only oneself can convince oneself. Stuff will fall like a pack of cards. I've not given the thing much thought but telling you why I do not believe in EITHER genealogy will just derail the thread further. I just heaved a sigh you don't think the world is six millenia old. I'm satisfied with that for now. But I like some of your explanations on things, lol. Maybe you should open a thread to address the more common bible inconsistencies? @nopuqeater, we'll just have to wait till they ask you, won't we? |
^^^Unfortunately he also has a knack for being right most times. |
Lol. It's an alpha male thing. |
Aww, get well soon. No wonder you've not made me laugh in a while. The thread you asked to check is hilarious though. And the airheads luckily will not get that the joke is on them. Get better o. Deep Sight is running wild, lol. |
since you asked. About the genealogy thing, I've heard that one writer emphasized on the line through Joseph (the proper Jewish thing to do I think) and the other through Mary. Joseph is virtually irrelevant if you believe in the virgin birth which I do not. I'd say more but it'll be going off on a tangent. |
Ha ha ha. Na, it's so not you, Nuke. But I'm glad that this is the effect my statement had. Though the quilty dudes probably won't change. Maybe I'll gather evidence one of these days. |
@InesQor. It seems me and Pastor were creaming ourselves at the same time about this pre aged thing. You think out of the box, or perhaps in a Maven one. I do not believe it, at least not yet, I just find it an interesting possibility. I take it I can talk about your ideas then. I'll return to them. You adequately did away with the illusion concept. Good. @Deep Sight. Quit calling me professor o. Real professors will sue you for libel by extension. I don't buy the pre date thing. It is just a neat(er) explanation than the frankly other ridiculous ones. In any case, the nature of the surmise entails that it is impossible to prove it wrong provided you believe God is all powerful etc @Nuke, don't be modest sir. I'll check your link presently. @Chinedumo. I think I'll apologise forever. Give me permission eh? Please? |
Thehomer! Where've you been? I thought Oladeegbu took you to Jupiter. |
You and Nuke have a habit of saying 'this is my opinion, what I believe etc' that I find most endearing. Some people will speculate with certitude that I find most off putting. You've answered my question anyway with another escape artist explanation lol. Whilst I think the explanation is a tad suspect, I'm contented to know you don't accept the genealogy (pick one) literally. |
Kai. I'm sorry I just gotta ask. Do you believe in the genealogy from Adam to Christ as depicted in the bible literally? |
@Chinedumo. I'm sorry, I won't derail again. @InesQor. That's very ingenious. The whole predating thing. I like it. I'll ponder on it a bit and I promise not to argue about it. @Nuke. How are things? You realise, sir, that you're the guest of honour on this thread? |
Yes Yinka. The Chamber. The ending sucked. Pointless. @Topic. Just finished In the Name of God. Took till the 3rd chapter to get engaging. Written like a textbook. Repetitive, but informative. @Spicyhoney. Is that Infidel book that good? The woman looks like she never stepped a foot in Somalia. Reminded me of an episode of Lie to Me. |
Hmmm. JeSoul, be careful. Remember Dele Giwa? Even I voted for Up just so we'd get a move on. What gives? Let's ditch the idea jare. V3, how you see last weekend na? |
Unfortunately I cannot do amazon or anything of the sort. No sweat, the longer the wait, the sweeter the juice, yes? |
@Pastor. I concede the point that one might see Him as wasteful at some point. But when we zoom back and see a bigger picture, the waste is minimal. What I mean is, from whose point of view is something a waste? Fruits rotting in the jungle is exactly what a tree counts on to reproduce. But to the monkey, that's a waste. Semen seems a waste till you try to imagine an orgasm with a drop. The earth is a perfect recycling plant if you remove man's influence and even in spite of it. Nothing is wasted. It might not serve its purpose according to some quarter but something else will find use for it. As for Noah and his ark, I'll leave that to those who believe the story. |
Well said. |
Unfortunately, if I perceive our collective dispositions on this matter correctly, this won't be fun. What's the use of a buncha buzus who agree with each other? Go ye forth and find a dissenter |
Nil. Nada. Zilch. The other thread is sufficient na, Mazaje |
Lol. Thank Serendipity. His two best works are quite old and he writes in Italian. Plus perhaps only Thomas Harris writes as infrequently as he does. All these are probably why he's so obscure. I've not read any of his non-fiction though and I can't lay my hands on them. |
I don't have the heart to be the first to speak ill of your mentor, y'all. I'll come back when others have done the dirty work. Wow, an 18hour long vision. Must've included private jets and caviar |
Pastor, wastage, especially in the way you've articulated it is not wastage at all. You seem to be looking through exclusively human eyes. The earth is not about us only. The sperm and egg thing is just hilarious. Lol. Evolution/God is wasteful but I don't think in the manner you've put it. I think it's more pertinent to ask why these guys appear to be taking the bible so literally. The earth is freaking not 6000years old. Continental drift proceeds at one infinitesimal distance, I forget, per year. Extrapolating and you can imagine what results are obtainable. There are the plethora of dinosaur fossils. The difference in Cambrian, Jurassic etc is more than 6000years. Other people make plausible stories around the bible to make of it an allegory and I find this pathologically dishonest but the literal rendition is unacceptable. It is simply not. Come to logic. God supposedly wiped out all the sinners with the deluge. I think He failed in that bid as the progeny of the righteous is humanity as we've known it over the centuries. Surely He should have had more foresight about such a futile cleansing. |
Yeah, I'm sure IBB is shaking like a leaf |
Damn, dude. Man up. I know how one can break down when someone you trust betrays you like that but you're sending the wrong message to her |
First thing you need to do is not seek advice here. You're a freaking married freaking man for Pete's sake. She slapped you. I'm sure you must have said something out of line. Women are not moved to such violence without some below the belt insult. With your recital of all the things you've done for her, it's not so hard to imagine what you could have said to her |
Being with Weird MC will not only be weird but gay |
Arghh, I'm reluctant to read up the whole thread. I'm just wondering what the point of the exercise was by the scientists. Do they believe that some people crossed the red sea like that once upon a time? Do they disbelieve it but seek to convince those who do that if indeed it did happen, here's how? I don't get. Plus, how do you figure such strong winds that can consistently keep the waters in a wall like fashion not strong enough to blow the hapless Israelites fleeing for their lives? Am I the only one who's confused at the point of it all? It's like proving how Santa would have powered his sled with star dust. Merde! |
Then God can be said to be impersonal. While possible to talk of Him being 'good', He didn't create good in the same vein |
Toba, thumbs up to you but you would have been excused. Just so you know. IBB is ingenious but only in the dark arts. Credential wise, he'd make the best president but not everyone will have a Paul conversion. |
Stop pissing people off, Toba. By all means, express your views but be more, em, politically correct. Everyone has a right to delusion. |
Deep Sight Tribunal? I thought someone was gonna hang him liturgically by the balls. Ilosiwaju, funnily, I think you've answered half your questions within those same questions. The questions are too generalized and thus, I'll contribute when the discussions set off. Deep Sight = Udeme |
While I think IBB is probably evil, I don't think he's actuated by any religious stimulus. That would be the other cretin, Buhari's preserve. If what my parents tell me of IBB is accurate, I'd say there were never any text messages and this whole thing is engineered to make him look like the innocuous victim and earn HIM cheap points. Bishop - e4. |
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