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When posting rubbish with your corrupt minds, doesn't it come to your sense that it's not only Nigerians that are reading these articles?
I found out this site when i was just searching for some informations about the ill treatments of Nigerians in the hands of the foreign embassies in Nigeria, i was using search engines and here i found myself.
You fools, you say all sorts of corrupt things about your activities and illegal intentions openly on these sites, and you're not wise enough to understand that the same way that i found this site, many foreigners and those who work with embassies are visiting this site too.
But how would you succeed in obtaining a visa for your clients after exposing yourselves by revealing things like "i can arrange a bank statements", "you can vanish when you get there", "you can marry to have a green card", "the passport was stamped and i got a new one", "my friend got visa with a fake bank statement", "my brother used my passport", "i sent money to do a new passport"etc?
Mind you, the embassy staff are also browsing to check and learn more things about Nigeria.
If you expose yourself here because you want to advertise your business, then, how would you succeed in the business except to defraud your clients?

Your cousin can apply again straight away: A refusal of  UK visa doesn't forbid you to reaply, even instantly. That's just it.

When posting rubbish with your corrupt minds, doesn't it come to your sense that it's not only Nigerians that are reading these articles?
I found out this site when i was just searching for some informations about the ill treatments of Nigerians in the hands of the foreign embassies in Nigeria, i was using search engines and here i found myself.
You fools, you say all sorts of corrupt things about your activities and illegal intentions openly on these sites, and you're not wise enough to understand that the same way that i found this site, many foreigners and those who work with embassies are visiting this site too.
But how would you succeed in obtaining a visa for your clients after exposing yourselves by revealing things like "i can arrange a bank statements", "you can vanish when you get there", "you can marry to have a green card", "the passport was stamped and i got a new one", "my friend got visa with a fake bank statement", "my brother used my passport", "i sent money to do a new passport"etc?
Mind you, the embassy staff are also browsing to check and learn more things about Nigeria.
If you expose yourself here because you want to advertise your business, then, how would you succeed in the business except to defraud your clients?

What do you really think about the (many) Nigerians who seek spiritual interventions for physical or material matters? They implore the help of voodoo priests to prepare black-magic-charms to enable them beat the immigration perhaps, "without being noticed".
  Do you think these charms really work?

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I am making an investigation about the ill treatments of Nigerians in the hands of foreign embassies in Nigeria, i would want you to post your experiences and the out come of your applications:
What's the reason you applied for a visa, was the visa approved or refused; and if REFUSE (as always is the case), i'd want to know the reason for the refusal.
Comments, please.

With my Nigerian passport, i've had some pocket of obstacles in some countries, my worst experience was in Riga, Latvia where my passport was cross-examined several times, they eventually had to make phone calls to my programme organisers before granting me entrance after 2 hours. In Istanbul, Turkey, i was singled out of a que when they saw the green passport (even though i was in the middle of the que) and taken into a special office where i was humiliated before letting me in.
I've always had some problems in western Europe also, but things are better now that i don't usually use the green passport, and even if i use it, it's numerous visas and stamps make it more credible. I can only imagine what people with a single visa in their passport pass through

Papabrowne, it's obvious the kind of character you are, every post of your's reveals your insincerity: there can't be any better liar. Shame on you!

When posting rubbish with your corrupt minds, doesn't it come to your senses that it's not only Nigerians that are reading these articles?
I found out this site when i was just searching for some informations about the ill treatments of Nigerians in the hands of the foreign embassies in Nigeria, i was using search engines and here i found myself.
You fools, you say all sorts of corrupt things about your activities and illegal intentions openly on these sites, and you're not wise enough to understand that the same way that i found this site, many foreigners and those who work with embassies are visiting this site too.
But how would you achieve your desires or succeed in obtaining visa for your clients after exposing yourselves by revealing things like "i can arrange a bank statements", "you can vanish when you get there", "you can marry to have a green card", "my first passport was stamped and i got a new one", "my friend got visa with a fake bank statement", "my brother used my passport", "i sent money to do a new passport"etc?
Mind you, the embassy staff are also browsing to check and learn more things about Nigeria.
If you expose yourself here because you want to advertise your business, then, how would you succeed in the business except to defraud your clients?

Well, i paid 700 Euro (not dollar) to do a new passport in Athens, Greece

Apart from the ones they see on TV movies, many people in Estonia have never met any black person before, even in their capital city: a lot of people told me that i was the first black guy they've seen in person. There are just a countable number of Africans here, Isn't this remarkable?

PapaBrowne:
Hmmm, people are funny!
I am not obliged to reply any posts since as stated, we are fuller than capacity already.
But I would.

I didn't retract any information because none of it was wrong.
1)I stated that Estonia is a member of the E.You. That is very correct.
2)I stated that new E.You states including Estonia would join Schengen in 2007. That is correct.
3)Estonia is presently a member of the schengen agreement, however it starts implementing the agreement in December 2007.
4)Estonia is a gorgeous country.It is located 50 miles from Finland,200 miles from Sweden.
The economy is booming.Estonian properties are been rushed by British and Irish citizens.These are facts.
Do the research yourself.
Please pin point any wrong or misleading information.

Imani, while you are genuine in your postings, you shouldn't speak with as much authority as you have on issues you barely understand.
because u're nice and genuine, I'll explain the process to you slightly. (not that it matters)
First, the programme is intended for genuine applicants.However, there is hardly anything like a genuine applicant in Nigeria,hence the "Vanish"clause.
The Estonian Visa issued is for six months starting July, so before it expires the borders will be completely open.
In all immigration laws, there are loopholes that can be used to your advantage.And that is what we are using for our clients on this program.
The fact that you can marry an American for the sole purpose of getting a Green card is a loophole in the immigration system and the INS knows about it.
When Pregnant women were rushing to Ireland to give birth, they were taking advantage of the fact that a child born in Ireland automatically entitles the mother to a permanent residence.
That is a loophole in the immigration system.
So if we have found a loophole in the E.You immigration policy, and choose to use it to the benefit of our clients, Bravo.

On your statement about english speaking countries, be informed that there are only two English speaking countries in Europe(UK & Ireland), so if you insinuate that those are the only countries ideal for Nigerians, then take a tour around Europe and see for yourself whether or not Nigerians have made success elsewhere.

Imani, your "boyfriend" (wikjustice) has just called me a scammer. Please tell him I really wouldn't want to join issues with him.

Papabrowne, you make me sick! But i won't give it up because i see that you're just a cheap liar and you amend your lies with further lies.
  You stated that "Estonia is an E.You country, hence the Visa allows you to enter 25 European Union Countries freely. Are you saying this statement is correct? Is the Schengen visa acceptable in the UK and Ireland? Then how come they're 25 countries and "FREELY"??
  You're now trying to say that your potential victims would stay back and wait until the Schengen agreement is fully implemented so they can move freely. If this is accurate, then why did you use the word "vanish"?
  Again, you're giving senseless hope to your victims by saying that Estonia will be border-free Schengen state in December 2007 where-as, the suggested date is not before december 31 2007 and is liable to a change.
  You know fully well that your claims are baseless and i see you as an evil man who would ruin others to profit himself.
  Question: What kind of visas are you going to get for your clients, the Schengen visa or the Estonian visa?
  FACT: Estonia embassies do not, and can not issue the Schengen visa, so, it's impossible to travel to Estonia with an Estonian visa and then use this same visa to travel to other countries when Estonia would be border-free Schengen state on a date that's not certain and that might not even be next year.
  FACT: Only immigrants with legal status in the Schengen states enjoy the free movements in it's territories, not the ones with Estonian visas
  FACT: Whoever comes to Estonia with it's national visa, with the hope of "vanishing" is liable to end up in jail and eventually be deported with the EU fund.
  FACT: Estonia in the EU, it's economy is as compared to that of Libya.
  FACT: Estonia like (Latvia and Lithuania) is opportune to be accepted into the EU not totally by achievements, but by favour because it's low population is not a threat to the EU.
  FACT: Unlike good EU countries where black people can "vanish" into black communities, a black man in Estonia is an obvious figure, so, it's easy to pick him up as soon as his visa expires: so "vanishing" in Estonia is as risky as swimming across a river that is infested with crocodiles.
  FACT: Estonia population is just 1,415,681, (far less than 1.5 million). Black people don't live in estonia the few you see here are students who are badly in need of help like those in Russia.
  FINALLY: I am in Estonia at the moment, and i'm informing you that Estonia is not a place for undocumented immigrants: a black man can not hide among white people. Whoever would go to Estonia, let him have tourism in his mind, don't be deceived by the corrupt evil mind of the scammer known as Papabrowne: I WARN YOU!

But, Imani, How many Nigerians do you think would be interested in Estonia if it's just for tourism?
 If many people responded (as Papabrowne claimed) isn't it understood that they have been misled to hope for "vanish" into other EU states?
 Papabrowne, do your business with best of accurate informations because, it's not funny if people sell their inheritance to be stranded in Estonia. LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S STRICTLY FOR TOURISM AND NOT FOR GREENER PASTURE AND THAT THEY CAN NOT VANISH INTO OTHER EU COUNTRIES EXCEPT LATVIA AND LITHUANIA.

Imani:
According to the information papabrowne posted, it is just a summer programme with a university. Most summer programmes are for learning languages or certain courses.

In terms of safety, if they live on campus, it may be safer than at any random location. If people are going for study and tourism, that is fair enough but there won't be any opportunity to work.

That's what i meant too. It would be well enough if he makes people know the fact about Estonia or other destinations and what they are good for.
I'm not against anyone's business, but i hate deceit. Let your clients know what and how it's like in their destination countries so that they'd know what to expect instead of giving them fake hopes and encouraging them to take desperate measures at the risk of their lives, freedom or deportation.
  Like i insisted earlier, Estonia is only good for tourism, and not for a "vanish" because, free border movement does not exist here: or, perhaps you want to risk using "resemblance" passport from Estonia ?

PapaBrowne:
It's funny how people just come out here with intentions to spoil opportunities for others.

Please read the post again and properly.The program I've spoken of is a very authentic and genuine program.
You can visit www.isu.ut.ee.
For your information, I would never cheat or defraud anyone. It is clearly stated that the fees are to be paid directly to the University.
I am very comfortable in my life and I have pretty much achieved much more than the average person my age(even internationally), hence, to suggest that I would come to Nairaland to seek who 2 cheat is very unfair.

Funnily, we already have more interested applicants than we can process. It has been more succesful than anticipated.

For those who genuinely have the interests of fellow Nairalanders and seek to protect them against fraudsters- You have done well and I appreciate your comments
For those that have chosen to exube negative energy in every nook and cranny- Word of Admonition " What goes around comes around"
Thanks all for the comments.

Papabrowne, but why did you say things that are not true if really your intention is genuine? You don't have to mislead people even if you don't have fraudulent intentions because, it would still be considered fraudulent if people spent their life savings or inheritance only to be stranded in a country like Estonia.
 Estonia is a place where you rarely see black people, perhaps 5 blacks in a month and this is only in Talin, the capital city.
 While most people are curious to make friends with Blacks, the racists here are of high degree: imagine a place where there are uncountable number of Russian skin-heads who would shoot or stab any "makaka" (Russian word for monkey).
 Remarkable percentage of Estonian citizen (Like in Latvia and Lithuania) are RUSSIANS. The few African students here are hell afraid for their lives, some have witnessed their fellows being shot, stabbed or beaten up in the streets, even to death, they are too few to revolt and many are starving, they need help!
 I have been attacked by these skin-heads 2 times within the last 3 weeks, but i was lucky enough to escape without injuries, not every one is this lucky, they've shot, stab and even beaten many Blacks or Asian looking people to death.
 Imagine a place where a man is afraid to walk alone in the dark or in an empty street, this is the situation here.
 Though they join the EU, but the EU laws that forbid open racism do not exist here: God is my witness that i'm saying the truth: you'd consider yourself fortunate if somebody says to your face "Go home nigger" or calls you "makaka" because, the same person could have shot or stabbed you and run away.
 I do not advise any Nigerian (desperate to make it abroad) to consider Estonia except if you're going with a group of tourists for tourism: I'm here on a voluntary assignment, but yet, It's not safe, and worst still, you can not make it here except you have to rob a bank; or can you live with $270 a month?
 I feel sorry for those potential victims of "check out", and my humble advise is, if you must check out, do so to any of these countries that promise hope but NEVER Estonia.
 Do not take a risk to travel to a country where you can NEVER, and i mean NEVER find a job how much more to talk about the wages: People here do not understand English, just Russian and the Eesti Languages (except some very few young ones who recently began to show interest in English Language).

Amani, Good that you're in the States. Right from your first comment, and as i followed the discoursion, i understood that you were neither fooled nor impressed by this Scammer known as Papabrowne. Keep it up!

How many plane crashes do you hear in a season? What about the rate at which road accidents happen?
One plane crash is a world news, but a hundred road accidents in one day is just another story.
Plane travel is safer. Control your fobia. OK?

Kokscity, I advise you to BURN the passport. OK?

Olabosun. My apologies for not responding earlier, i was away. . .

But an invitation letter is a not guarantee for a visa? Do you know that you have requirements to meet? In fact, your role determines your fate.

You have been adviced. . .

PapaBrowne:
Hmmm,
[s]Hmmm vicjustice.
You appear like a very sad man.Hope life is treating you good.Anyways, you sound arrogant, ignorant and very negative.
I just ran through your posts and I found that out of 14 posts, all your talk is negative. The only post where you sound happy is the one where you are in bed with a gay prostitute.
How would I want to join issues with someone of your personality.[/s]
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But I will give you the benefit of doubt and answer you politely.

First, you are not very well informed because if you were, you would know that the new E.You. countries that joined in 2004 become schengen states in 2007.Estonia is one of them.
Read this article to eliminate your ignorance.
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/04/f3403f9e-5bd7-4f74-8504-7395a7a10fe2.html

Secondly, your points are baseless and lack substance because
Estonia is the best performing economy in Europe currently, as it recorded the fastest growth in 2006 of 11%.This growth was five times the European average.
Read article to expose your arrogance.
http://www.eubusiness.com/news_live/1171364411.21/

Estonia is one of the most tech savvy countries worldwide.
Hear what New York times says,it might help you deviate from you negativity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/13/technology/13skype.html?ex=1179892800&en=0e168692f4d8ab37&ei=5070

And for your information Mr vicjustice; It is not my profession.It is just one of the companies I own.

One word of advice;Be a happier person.It helps.You might want to buy this book,it will help you smile a little more.
www.amazon.com/Your-Best-Life-Now-Potential/dp/0446532754

Anyways, thanks for the comment, it placed this post at the forefront and gave it more exposure.Thanks

Papabrown, you're rather uninformed. Either you posted your articles in your naive understanding or you're just trying to mislead people with your misinformations.
  You based your judgements on some of the contents of the article in the web address that you referred to, but you failed to understand that the article was written on April 07 2005: it says the 10 new EU member states would be potential schengen members in 2007.
  You're rather too much in a hurry to make money from anxious Nigerians, and you mislead them with informations that are invalid.
I should let you know that (though i live in Dublin) i'm in Estonia at the moment, I work with a voluntary organisation (Doctors Without Border), and i'm telling you that Estonia and the other 9 states that joined the EU in 2004 are slow to meet the requirements of the schengen treaty agreements, and therefore failed even until now.
  You stated that Estonia is the fastest growing economy or whatever: this claim is attributed to the fact that Estonia is reviving from its poor economy with the aid of the EU. You can also use the word "growing or developing economy" for countries like India, Bangladesh or even Nigeria:  the sense is: you can't use the term "growing economy" for countries like Germany or France.
   FACT: Before the admission of Bulgaria and Romania, Estonia remained one of the poorest EU states ranking the 3rd after Latvia and Lithuania.
   FACT: Estonia and the other nine states that joined the EU in 2004 failed the requirements, thus are not yet accepted into the Schengen membership.
   FACT: A visa for Estonia is only valid for Latvia and Lithuania, which are Even poorer than Estonia.
   FACT: the poorest EU states before the admission of Estonia and others used to be Portugal, and yet, Portugal is more than a match with Estonia.
   FACT: You can not "vanish" into other EU states from Estonia except you take desperate measures tresspassing the borders, an act that might cost you your freedom in Europe if arrested.
   FACT: Slovenia is the only new EU country that is a match with the old member states with it's economy even better than that of Italy.
   FACT: Nigerian students in Estonia (with valid residence permit) need visas to travel to other EU states except Lithuania and Latvia. Where-as, residence permit holders in the Schengen states do not need visa to travel within it's territories.
   FACT: Bulgaria (now joined the EU in January 2007) is the poorest country in the Union, but yet, it's more than a match with our great Nigeria.
   FACT: Estonia DOES NOT, issue the Schengen visa, thus, a visa for Estonia is not valid for the Schengen states
   Papabrown, Estonia is not a member of the schengen states, and a visa for Estonia is not valid for the Schengen countries. PERIOD!

PapaBrowne:
TRAVEL TO EUROPE IN JULY

Very exciting opportunities exist for those willing to travel to Europe this summer.Whether you just want to travel and get out of the hassles of Naija or you want to spend just a couple of weeks having fun and learning at the same time,this is the perfect opportunity for you.
We have a very exciting Summer Program in a very beautiful European Union country,Estonia.
The age requirement is 18-35.
Dates:July 23- Aug 11th, 2007

Estonia
Estonia is a small but very gorgeous European country located in Northern Europe. Tucked in the Scandinavian belt around Norway, Sweden and Finland,the extreme prosperity of these countries have rubbed off positively on Estonia.
The summer program is organised by University in Estonia and it covers 2 weeks of expansive & relaxed teaching, accommodation and loads of excursions.
English is widely spoken.


Visa
The Visa is almost guaranteed and devoid of the regular complications associated with embassies in Nigeria.
Also, Estonia is an E.You country, hence the Visa allows you to enter 25 European Union Countries freely.

Costs
Registration;255 Euros
Program: 595 Euros
Accommodation:650 Euros (optional if you already have accommodation prepared)
Fees are to be paid directly to the University

There are very limited spaces availabe and application deadline is June 1st.However we advise all interested to have applied by May 30th.





NB
If you have always wanted to travel to Europe, this is your best opportunity as you could vanish to 25 other European countries if you so wish!!

DO NOT LET this so called Bababrown fool you, he doesn't even know what he's talking about. Though, i live in Dublin, but as a volunteer who has spent a great deal of time in the Baltic states, i'm in position to tell you some facts about Estonia.
 Estonia, though it joined the EU in 2004, it's not a member of the schengen states. A visa for Estonia is in accordance with the Baltic States Treaty (an agreement which makes it also valid for Latvia and Lithuanian only). The Baltic is the sea that is connected to Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia: These three Baltic states are sister countries that used to be under the Soviet union
 (Be aware that there is no country's visa (not even the schengen visa) that is acceptable in the UK or Ireland)
 The economy in Estonia is not encouraging for people who want to make it abroad, even the Estonians are everywhere in richer EU states for better paid jobs.
  Estonia (like Latvia and Lithuania) are only popular for tourism purposes, it's not an ideal destination for someone who's in pursuit for greener pastures.
  The article of Bababrown, reveals that he just doesn't know what he claims to be his field of profession thus his business claim is not one that is credible or one that is sustain.
 BEWARE OF HIM!

vikiviko:
If you need genuine documents as bank statement, invitation letter , contact me on 01-8516418

Could you tell us your definition for genuine?

funkybaby:
my younger sis. is a full-time student in one of the federal universities in nigeria. she applied for a uk visit visa JULY 2006. to our amazement, she was denied. she was denied by the silly entrance clearance officer based on the following reasons,

1. she was single and unmarried (she's just 22yrs old)
2. she didnt declare any income (a full-time student)
3. she didnt show enough evidence that she was coming back to nigeria.
4. if given the visa, she might seek recourse to public funds and employment

attached to her application was letters of identification and permission to travel from her university. our parent's bank statement was fat (they didnt complain about that, just that they expected her to declare her personal income which sounds really stupid since she's a student), property deeds of our parents, parents passport(they travel often) , my uncle gave her a well-composed, lovely letter of invitation, as well as other documents and all her documents are genuine.

she was not called for any interview, her department @ school was not called, parents were not called , they did not even call my uncle to confirm if truly he was iniviting her.

anyway, in annoyance i filed an appeal on her behalf where i stated her case. She got a letter from the appeal tribunal in SEPTEMBER 2006 saying that they had received her appeal and they have asked the Bristish High Commission to forward them all details regarding her application by 20TH NOVEMBER 2006.

to our shock and that of my uncle too, he was called on 5TH OCTOBER 2006 by the embassy officials in Lagos. they asked him all the questions that they should have asked him when she first submitted by application in July. i wonder why they were just doing this now when they ought to have done that initially. anyway, my uncle said he answered all their questions intelligently and we should hope for the best.

now to my questions (i need the opinion of people that have gone through UK visa appeal)

a. how long does the whole thing take, (we have been on it since July and she wants to spend the christmas hols in UK)
b. is the case going to be heard in court or will the assylum people base the opinion on what the uk peeps submit to them?
c. based on all i have typed, do you think she stands a good chance of getting the visa eventually?


thanks !

Best os luck, further comments reserved. . .

This guy is a typical Nigerian man, he's just trying to show off

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Those abroad wanna spend the Christmas in Nigeria, but what about those in Nigeria, ?

Babyface, since you've been living in the UK, have you seen anyone hungry has has there ever been any power falure? What do the people in London lack? They don't have a car doesn't mea that they can't afford it, they just don't feel it's comfortable. Is Nigeria any way close to the UK?