₦airaland Forum

tiredoflife:
The agbero angle is key
Lagos politics is won by agberos
They control the parks and streets.
A modern lagos transport system is bad for politics
It means the cash cow of free money will be gone
Tinubu makes daily money from all parks and bus stops and the agberos who are the middle men get a cut
That's why the likes of mc oluomo are rich and used during politics

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I am waiting for some people on this thread to challenge your summary of the real issues at play in that state. But something tells me they won't.

The truth shall make us free.

novaman:
Nigerian Journalist and sensational headlines for to sell Paper. This journalist was quick to make comparison with Ethiopia since we are all Africans but forgot to state that even in the same state, the same distance in different directions could cost different amounts due to the different topography of the terrain.

I took time to study the Ethiopia light rail and discovered that apart from the elevated track like the one in Lagos, there is no part of the project where they needed to construct a bridge over Lagoon and that cost quite a lot but the difference in the total contract sum could be significant.

The length of the elevated track could be an additional cost. So comparison should be eliminated in the discussion completely.

We should focus more on the reason for the delay and ask why it cost that much. The reporter should be able to cost the Chinese government and companies for more details, who know maybe the problem and delays could be from them.

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The secrecy is the issue.

Any Lagos taxpayer should be able to get all (and I mean all the facts about the project) at the stroke of a keyboard. Any stake holder in Lagos should be able to get the project EIA and other project information without having to squeeze water out of stone.

The FOI Act should apply to Lagos state - and all other states in the federation. Until this happens we are fooling ourselves. Domestication of the Act will not solve all Nigeria's problems but it is a step in the right direction - towards ending the guesswork, speculation etc.

The truth will make us free.

plaindealer:
Nigerians and ignorant comparisons, must we always needlessly compare especially with illogical and ignorant facts.

1. Lagos is a state in Nigeria, Ethiopia is a country with sovereign wealth fund and capacity to fund or borrow.

2. There is nothing comparable with both projects, Lagos Metro Rail is a combination of Metro rail, 10 lane freeway, BRT lane, stations and overhead bridges and a Metro bridge over the Lagos Lagoon.

So how related and comparable are both projects?

The $475 billion Ethiopia spent on ordinary metro rail is probably what they spent on the Metro Bridge over Lagos Lagoon alone in Lagos

This is how these Nigerian bloggers misguide and misinform poor and ignorant news consumers in Nigeria, they read their trash, they swallow them and start acting as if they've just been fed credible info.

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The FOI act should be domesticated in Lagos state, so that the people can get the facts for themselves without being 'misinformed by bloggers'. They can make comparisons (between Addis and Lagos or wherever) from a position of knowledge.

The truth will make us free.

drshrewd:
development is a process not an event. It take some time to get to your desired destination. Lagos shall get there one day

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That's not good enough sir.

The writeup has brought up some hard questions that demand answers. Lagos will NEVER get there if those answers are not provided.

Wishful thinking doesn't lead to development. Purposeful action does.

Idaraesit98:
Didn’t bother reading..Too long

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Read it.

I read the entire thing in less than 6 minutes.

If you have anything, anything at all to do in Lagos, the issues raised in that writeup affect you. Hell, if you have anything to do with Nigeria, the issues raised in that write up affect you.

Read it and learn something.

Pennyways:
such a lengthy post expressing Nigeria sorrows at 59 after independent

Meanwhile, I can't afford my expensive time in read such, only the headline and few paragraphs explain really the situation of Nigeria our dear OP is trying to inform us though we are aware.

Our more worries now is our economy

Electricity

Fulani herdsmen

APC

And how to revoke bubu out of Aso Rock

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What are you trying to say sir?

Zinny25:
All the girls he raped are married now....... are you thinking what I'm thinking?? what if he didn't rape them, who knows they may still be searching for their missing ribs,they ought to be grateful to him jor


but honestly I thought we are done with this rape scandal why is it still making FP

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And you are female??!

Your data profile and posting history states that you are female. If indeed you are a woman you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for that nonsense you typed about missing ribs. Is rape a joke to you?

None of us really knows the truth about Fatoyinbo and his accusers. All we can do is wait as events unfold. This is not the time for thoughtless comments that add zero value - particularly from a woman - who should know better.

Farewell, Mad Melon.

thebigkendo:
You are right but most of those come with a viscous clutch, which controls the fan speed based on coolant or oil temperature.

Almost like how your AC compressor pulley is always spining with engine but only "works" when the AC is on but in this case.. Fan spins at lower speed when temperature is low or when on the free way, high speed when idling or slow moving traffic

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Fair point.

But to my untrained eye, the fan on this particular vehicle seems to spin at high speed even from rest (when the engine is cold - and one would expect low fan speed till operating temp is reached ). Perhaps this explains why for this vehicle, the temp needle on the instrument cluster NEVER gets to the halfway point (unlike several other Toyotas & Hondas I have come across) even after prolonged hard use in heavy traffic.

kokomaster3d:
When you on your ignition, your fan is not suppose to start spining. No matter how high the temperature is, your thermostat will regulate everything according to the factory settings.

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Some cars do come factory fitted with mechanical fans - fans which start running immediately you crank the engine. They are designed that way.

AmuDimpka:
I have been there and I started with the Japs ...but that doesn't mean I put em down...just that there is no basis of comparison

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You will soon come back 'home'.

Once you go "Jap", you'll never go back...

AmuDimpka:
Oga that is the cheapest plug which is NGK..Bosch is higher and that is what Benz demands but that doesn't make NGK Bad though but Bosch is preferable which is about 2,500 and that is recommended.

Also...is only spark plugs only what you saw....why bringing in Camry in a discussion of Benz...you can talk Camry in the discussion of Honda Mitsubishi and Subaru not even BMW, Audi, Benz and Chrysler conversation bro

There are leagues so we all must play in our various division....bro

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The lady doth protest too much...

You can promote your 'Benz' without putting down Jap brands. In far too many of your posts you had something uncomplimentary to say about Jap cars. Why? Do you secretly pine for one?

Solid, reliably built motor vehicles.

When you buy a Land Cruiser, you're buying a product first of all. Branding and all those other extras are secondary. (Mercedes, Ford, Land Rover, BMW, GM - are you listening?)

Like I always say, there's a reason why mining engineers, oilmen, the UN, combatants in troubled spots etc. have a preference for Land Cruisers and other Toyotas. Toyota gets the job done!

Toyota is probably the only car maker that has had mid-level conflicts named after it (Google the 'Toyota wars') - publicity it would rather do without - but which shows that even warlords recognize the real deal when they see it. Imagine if ISIS, Al Qaida etc. had decided to use Dodge Rams, G Wagens, BMW X5s or Ford Raptors as their vehicles of choice - instead of the 'technicals' they do use. Those long running wars would have long since ended - far more time would have been spent on car repairs instead of combat and everyone would have gone home to rest.

The Land Cruiser and its cousins like the LS 400 have forever destroyed the myth that unreliability is par for the course with high end, 'luxury' automobiles. Toyota has proved, time and time again that it can be done.

The Toyota Way is 'the' way.

NGpatriot:
This is how you hate-mongering ipobs let tribalism, bigotry, misplaced and misguided arrogance overtake your sense of reasoning and basic logic.

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Trolling?

Seriousness:
A lot of men will learn when women start covering vital parts of there body properly.
Don't misunderstand me I'm only saying the truth.
If a man that cannot control himself sexual sees different women half naked every day even if he can't have sex with any of them(half naked women)one day he will be driven by his sexual urge to have sex with any lady by force no matter how the lady exposes or properly covers her body.
Unfortunately the innocent girls are mostly victims.

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You are right, Sir.

A lot of Toyota, Hyundai, Honda and Kia owners do not have any sense. What do they mean by driving their common, low value econoboxes around when so many of us are walking? Are they mad?

They need to keep their cars at home so that the rest of us will not be tempted.

They do not understand that some of us have a compulsive need to get in any reliable car we see and drive it away. And we are prepared to kill you or anyone who dares to try stop us. Even if the car belongs to you.

If people cannot keep their cars safely locked away at home, then I cannot be blamed for the outcome. It isn't my fault if I cannot quench or control my lust for reliable transportation.

If you must bring your car out, make sure it is draped in a full length car cover to avoid leading me into temptation. If I should so much as see a hint of an exposed wheel cover or alloy rim then all bets are off. My thirst must be slaked!

Damn fools.

galadima77:
Who's gonna read all that?

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Good thread.

jesmond3945:
it is a war situation bro and it is inevitable. If your shop was burnt in SA i dont think you would think twice about attacking or looting anything SA. Our government never did anything the people had to take the law into their hands. My brother throaway sentiments and be real for once.

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No Sir.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I will repeat my response to other posters who share your viewpoint.

Nigerians living in Nigeria gathered the harvest of the grapes of wrath seeded 5 days ago. Not South Africans. Nigerians running their franchise businesses, trying to make a living, earn a profit and create value - they are the ones counting their losses at the moment.

Let that sink in for a minute.

And even if all the shops looted in Lagos were owned 100% by South Africans it still wouldn't be ok to loot them. But let's put that aside for now - and deal with the facts of the case - the businesses are largely owned and run by Nigerians. If these businesses are all owned and run by Nigerians then what has been gained by looting them? What point has been made? Whose interests have been served?

The answer to all this is the part of your post I set in bold font. How can you call a government yours if it does nothing when your interests are being threatened? And if it does nothing to advance or protect your interests, what have you (and I) done to get rid of it? Is taking the law into our own hands - and hurting other Nigerians (who are also victims) the solution?

You can "keep it real" - just make sure it doesn't go wrong.

Pacesetter123:
Why r u so hasty in ur submission? Do you know wot is called identity management in time of crisis? U didn't hear wen NANS gave several warnings n naming their targets for revenge if de senseless killing in SA persist? Wen de crisis escalated in SA on Sunday,wot stops u from taking safety measures to secure ur biznes, knowing fully well dat it's situated in a target complex? Do u know dat wearing a military uniform is a thing of pride n honour? But wen dere was misunderstanding b/w de army n de police in Taraba,de army authority warned dat any soldier on pass, should wear mufti for de time being to avoid altercation with police on de way.So if after hearing de warning,u as a civilian wen ahead to wear military uniform for wotever reason best known to u, unfortunately u r killed by police for instance in retaliation.Do ur family has moral right to come out n ask for compensation dat after all u weren't even a military man n as such not de police main target? Go n learn how to manage ur identity well during crisis to avoid always playing a victim card.

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Having read your 'response' up there, I have no doubt it was a mistake to engage you in the first place.

Do have a good day, Sir.

Cantonese:
It is quite painful when those who have never experienced the brutality unleashed on Nigerians by citizens of other countries in their nations speak without checking.

A few years ago, upon entering into Togo, our vehicle was trapped at the border. Reason: the Togolese wanted Nigerians to leave because Nigerians had taken over their businesses and women. Unfortunately the innocent among the Nigerians were made to suffer. You probably do not understand the extremities of xenophobia, particularly when it involves Nigerians. Granted that there are many irresponsible Nigerians out there. The bad Nigerians are only a small fraction of the decent ones in foreign lands. The innocent lose their lives. Many families back here grieve daily over the loss of their loved ones.

Now look at the attacks on the so called SA interests here. We never knew about South African interests until they were publicized. People were told that Shoprite, DSTV and MTN belonged to South Africa and they targeted them.

See, no single one has the prerogative of violence. The black man believes in an eye for an eye no matter the pretence of religious inclination. The South African police turned the other way. Baba go slow made no move. Several times Nigerians at home threatened reprisals and nothing was done. Definitely we expected this action to arise someday.

The Zimbabwean president spoke about the attacks on their own people. Surely with this we hope the SA authorities will wake up to the reality of the matter and do something about it.

Looting of people’s property is highly irresponsible but when you have such governments and leaders what do you expect?

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No Sir.

You are missing the point (no pun intended).

The most important part of your response is the part I set in bold font. It says all that needs to be said.

Your government is your voice. It is supposed to represent you. It is supposed to work for you. It is supposed to speak for you. If it does not do any of these things - and you (by 'you' I mean Nigerians as a group) cannot bend it to your will and hold it accountable then you are to blame.

If Nigerians cannot force their government to act in the interests of Nigerians (both home and abroad) then who will do it? Is it the Saudis, Russians or the Chinese?

The stupidity of the events of the last 48 hours (after the SA news broke) is breathtaking. Nigerians clearly bore the brunt of the looting here. I am ready to wager that the people who suffered losses here do not have a hand in any of the events in SA. So whose interests were served then?

There are rules in this game. There is a reason why troublemakers dare not touch the nationals of some countries - their governments will breathe so hard down the necks of the troublemakers home governments - they'll wonder what hit them.

There are rules in this game.

Cantonese:
Bro your judgement is not accepted. An attack in what ever form it is serves the purpose of driving home the point. With this attack, South Africa would be reminded that they have interests in other countries that can be ruined too. If other nationals from other countries can attack them this way the South Africans would realize their citizens in other countries and their properties would pay the price.

Next in line should be Ghana and Togo. These people who carry agoyin beans everywhere. They have taken over the mason jobs here, tiling, panel beating, painting, etc. They should be put together and sent back to their respective countries.

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No.

This doesn't make any sense. So any and all 'attacks' are fine as long as they, as you say,"drive home the point"? What is the point exactly?

As so many others have pointed out on here - the businesses that were looted are run by Nigerian franchise operators, not South Africans (and even if they were run by South Africans it still wouldn't be ok to loot them). So what's your argument then?

As for your comments about Ghana and Togo - please tell me you are some high level satirist (although something tells me you aren't) trying to raise the ire of those who can't read between the lines. If you can't see the irony in protesting South African xenophobia while promoting same against Ghanaian/Togolese nationals then...

Pacesetter123:
Is it those boys dat wud av imposed sanctions n severe de diplomatic tie u r talking abt with SA or our government? Ever since de SA government started sponsoring dis xenophobic attacks on us,do u see or hear our government taking any action at least to send a signal to them? So if our government is not doing anything about it,u want de Nigerian youths to also fold their hands n see small SA killing our people n looting our shops over dere without any strong signal being sent to them? Any Nigerian who places his or her biznes in any building covered by de brand name SHOPRITE should blame himself for any lost he or she encounters at this critical time.Thumps up to de great Nigerian youths for de swift reactions.A strong statement has been made by this their actions

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There is nothing "pacesetting' about what you have cobbled together up there.

You have the nerve to blame Nigerian businessmen for setting up shop in any building under the Shoprite franchise. Where do we even begin to unravel the weirdness in that mindset? Do you know how the world works?

Have you owned or run a business before? Do you have any idea what it means to conceive a business, birth it, nurture it? Do you know anything about creating value? Do you?

ctleurocollege:
Ur prophecy of doom will never materialize, Nigeria was supposed to be destroyed in 2015 according to U.S intelligence report but we're still here, Nigeria is stronger than you think because of the die hard patriots and of course God


For those interested in studying in Cyprus, contact me

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A religious ultra-nationalist.

Why are you facilitating education in Cyprus then? Are there no schools or universities in Nigeria?

jesmond3945:
forget what i do for a living. It is called colateral damage. If your mother or father or brother or sister was stoned to death I don't think you would have time to type in nairaland. Not supporting carnage on Nigerians but if this is what can make your president rise up to the occasion then there is nothing me and you can do about it.

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I see.

What goes round comes round.

Good you are exposing your mindset - at least its all in the open now.

What I can't stand is the duplicity being exhibited by your kind. In one breath you casually excuse the looting by calling it collateral damage. In another breath you claim not to support the carnage on Nigerians (whatever that means ). Make up your damn mind! Where do you stand?

pocohantas:
They looted a friend's shop.

She doesn't even sell food o, just beauty products. Skin care and hair care.

Them go rub relaxer tire.

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I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself.

This thread provides clear evidence that there are too many of us who are criminal opportunists - just looking for a chance (however small) to cause great harm to our fellow countrymen human beings.

Not just one poster but several have come on this thread to justify and defend the looting. To these people, it doesn't matter that the shops being looted are franchises owned by people (be they Nigerians or South Africans or whomever) who may not have a hand in what's going on in SA.

A couple of voices of reason pointed out the insanity in this and these criminals in training rounded on them with one ill-thought out justification or another for looting - looting deceptively marketed as protest.

At least now we know who you are.

Bluehill1051:
E remain Stanbic ibtc bank make them go loot if them get mind

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Exactly. I will take them seriously when they invade that bank's vaults and make away with hard currency. For now they have focused only on soft targets selling food and drink etc.

Criminals.

jumobi1:
If she means the Nigerian government then I can agree. This cannot happen to African Americans. The USA doesn’t let other countries play with its citizens.

Gennygolden:
Statements like this is so ambiguous. she might be right or wrong but a detailed explanation would have done justice to her assumption.

Lordbricks:
Its too vague a statement to be used anyhow.

gaventa:
People don’t understand what she means, it’s just like saying if the government has taken us seriosuly outsiders won’t even dare try shit.

openmine:
.....a bitter truth that most people will hardly comprehend!
Kate is simply saying.... Don't expect to be treated any BETTER by a foreigner in their country when you are treated badly by the same foreigner in your own country while your leaders watch and do nothing!

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These people up here show that at least some of us ARE thinking. These posters quoted above for example, DO understand context, nuance and scenario building - with the first three being particularly careful about taking sides. The last two have taken an alternative viewpoint that the majority of posters here (in their rush to judgement) have not even bothered to consider.

Henshaw's cryptic comments are open to multiple interpretation. Perhaps that was the objective all along...

What is sad is how some posters on this thread have "interpreted" her tweet as a parallel justification for their deviant, latent desire to freely rape and assault women at will. What is the relationship between Henshaw's comments and non-consensual sex? Only dark, dark minds can even begin to automatically associate the two. Where is the link?

Our road is damn too long.

ccrazy:
We can chase and pursue all these south Africans from their companies like MTN, DStv and co, then the federal government can employ capable hands in Nigeria to manage it while our government will own all those establishment.

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It's going to get worse - much worse, before it gets even a little better.

The Richard Ogundiyas of this world are many. No doubt. But they exist in such large numbers - and wield such influence because Nigerians allow this.

Nigerians need to learn a painful, searing truth. Actions and choices have consequences. These are indisputable truths. They are incontrovertible. We ignore them at our peril.

Nigerians do not have the focus and singularity of purpose to demand good leadership. And how can we - when we do not have any understanding of what good followership is? Our popular culture extensively discusses poor leadership and how it has destroyed this country. But little or nothing is said about poor followership. Has anyone ever used the phrase "followership failure" here - as opposed to the always mentioned "leadership failure"?

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

This is NOT a king cobra.

It is a mature forest cobra - and an unusually large one at that. Forest cobras are usually black and a defining characteristic is their yellow ventral blotches or patches - particularly around the scales of the head and upper third of the body.

King cobras are not native to Africa. They are not usually black - and defining characteristics are the chevrons running the entire length of their dorsal scales.

This argument should have been put to rest by now. There are far too many threads on here confusing west african forest cobras for king cobras. What is not in doubt is that they are both regal, iconic creatures. It is a pity their natural habitat is shrinking and this is bringing them into direct conflict with human beings.

Gazzy88:
Nope but they were stopping every vehicles, beating both drivers and passengers dem. No be funny issue at all. Whether you're young or old, so far you're beatable, dem dey lash able bodied men.

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Instead of them to focus that aggression on the problem in Konduga, Gubio, Bama etc., they are transferring their craziness to ordinary Nigerians trying to make ends meet in a cruel, uncaring country.

And then some people will come on here and sell the nonsense that we can all sleep at night only because of these 'men' - men who in reality are nothing but a complete disgrace to the uniform.

Rubbish.