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ABDULADINO:
If he is in the truth in the first instance, he wouldn't have wandered from the truth.

They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. (1 John 2:19)

ABDULADINO:
James addresses "my brothers" and says in verse 5:20, "he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins."

Although the verse is addressed to "brothers," i still maintain that not all among the brethren are necessarily saved. The fact that the brother had his soul saved from death and it covered a multitude of sins tells us that the "brother" was never saved in the first place. If he had been saved, his sin would have already been covered by faith in Jesus.

ifeness:
Isn't Kumuyi Gay?

plaetton:
Lol.

The human joystick is an evolved tool that knows no faith, no religion, but only craves for the warm esctatic feelings of heaven.

One more proof for the theory evolution.

fifa456n:
It's been two years Op is back

Gospels:
please can you take a deep breath and explain what you meant

HCpaul:
I will not force you to believe. You must hate him because to you is a duty, but to me is salvation. The more persecutions he suffered in the hand of his detractors validate him and causes him to be known.

Point to me any prophet in the bible that your fathers did'nt percecute, suffer, and kill? So is your responsibility.

Why synagouge? Don't forget the spiritual blessings that God has bestowed on us. You hate him, but he overcome you with the love of Christ.
Keep going my daddy, till we end up our jorney in paradise.

ABDULADINO:
Believers do not LOSE their salvation through sinning. Even if the verse was addressed to brothers, not all the brethren are necessarily saved. Ananias and Saphira is an example of such.

ABDULADINO:
Juxtapose with the Pauline epistle to have a balance. Was The consequence hell? The Bible indicates that the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin.

This means that no sin a believer commits can result in condemnation or loss of salvation. What about "believers" who live in a continual state of sin? Such individuals are hypocrites and not believers at all. The Bible indicates that believers do not practice sin on a routine basis. A direct example of a believer falling into sin, but still retaining his salvation is given by Paul:

It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife... hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord. (1 Corinthians 5:1, 5)

Paul indicates that the man was committing incest with his father's wife (mother?), yet Paul was still confident that his spirit would be saved. So, a true believer cannot lose his salvation through sin.

1 CORINTHIANS 5:5
KJ21 deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the Day of the Lord Jesus.
ASV to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
AMP You are to deliver this man over to Satan for physical discipline [to destroy carnal lusts which prompted him to incest], that [his] spirit may [yet] be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
BRG To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
CEB At that time we need to hand this man over to Satan to destroy his human weakness so that his spirit might be saved on the day of the Lord.
CJB hand over such a person to the Adversary for his old nature to be destroyed, so that his spirit may be saved in the Day of the Lord.
CEV You must then hand that man over to Satan. His body will be destroyed, but his spirit will be saved when the Lord Jesus returns.
DARBY to deliver him, [I say,] [being] such, to Satan for destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
DLNT you are to hand-over such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, in order that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
DRA To deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
ERV Then turn this man over to Satan. His sinful self has to be destroyed so that his spirit will be saved on the day when the Lord comes again.
ESV you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.
ESVUK you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.
EXB then hand this man over to Satan. So his ·sinful self will be destroyed [sinful nature will be purged; or body/flesh will be destroyed; or body will be beaten down by sin], and his spirit will be saved on the day of the Lord.
GNV Be delivered unto Satan, for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

ABDULADINO:
Context. Paul warned timothy to ministerial faithfulness. It IS possible to have your faith wrecked by false teachers. To depart is NEVER to fall from salvation but from accurate bible doctrine.The entire context IS not SALVATION.

Charism:
48-year-old South African Pastor Zander Emenogo has been preaching the word of God on the streets for 10 years until the day street thugs waylaid and assaulted him.

Daily Sun reports that the pastor of The Evangelical Christian Assembly of South Africa spent Saturday preaching about drugs, crime and violence, and against Islam in the streets and parks of Joburg. Out of nowhere, two young men stopped him (One Alleged to be a muslim) and told him that he had a big mouth.

The Nigerian-born pastor, a father of two, who has remained undaunted in spite of his experience, now lives in Berea. He said he has to pass on the message whether it offended someone or not.

Read what he narrated to Daily Sun below:

“I go where the Lord leads me. On Saturday I was standing on the corner of Delvers and Claim streets in the CBD.”

“While I was preaching, there were rough guys looking at me. I was scared but I had no choice. I passed on the word of God”.


“I didn’t know I was pushing the wrong buttons as I preached. I only realised that when I was done and preparing to go home.”

“Before I could respond I felt a heavy blow on my head and I fell down. I only woke up four hours later in a hospital bed,” he said.

“When I went back to preach on Monday on other streets I was threatened.”

“A man told me what the guys did on Saturday was nothing compared to what was to come if I didn’t stop what I’m doing. I preach what the Lord tells me.”

“No arrests have been made and the police are investigating,” he concluded.

http://www.gossipmill.com/2015/08/photos-angry-residents-smash-pastors-head-for-disturbing-the-streets-with-noise-while-preaching/

badnature:
yeah that's how our LORD JESUS CHRIST was slapped at the back of his head and ask him if he is indeed a prophet as he claims he should point the person who slapped him, vooks as your great grand fathers tormented prophet of old so shall you but woo on you all

parisbookaddict:
Over 100 humans perished in one mans compund, a man supposedly blessed with the "power" of seeing visions of events before they occur and yet NOBODY is in jail.

Only in nigeria.

christinie:
Why is it that once you are very successful many people around you including your extended family members feel uncomfortable around you? They are usually quick to believe/conclude that your success is not ordinary as you must have used people's star/glory? It is so bad that some people now attribute every testimony to the devil. For instance a woman was once accused of using devilish powers to have male children. When most people see people with mansions and big cars they are quick to call them 'ritualists'. People see a very expensively dressed woman walk into a store to buy something and they are scared to give her change because they believe she will use it to syphon their wealth spiritually. Even the extended relatives around you are so scared that you might belong to an unlawful society (secret court) and you will steal their glory. Even in your place of work once they notice you are from a political/influential family they get so scared of you.
I don't think God allows such things to happen. I strongly believe that our destiny is in God's hands and that He protects our present and future all the time. Let us do away with fear. God's grace is sufficient for us. Ciao ciao.

5solas:
Alright! So that's why you won't admit predestination. It is common with Arminians. No amount of blackmail will keep us from admitting and proclaiming it.

No one is capable of saving themselves. The beauty of the gospel is that God decided to save some, even though He was under no obligation to save any.

True, if you get saved, you saved yourself!
And yet for all that, some still get lost.

And why only the character of the saved?


And sure enough, here, you think Him just!

ABDULADINO:
Lol. What is faith? Peter makes it plain that we are "chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father through the sanctifying work of the Spirit for obedience"(1 peter 1:2). Deal with that, then we can move on.

ABDULADINO:
No need for greek and semantics. Can the elect's faith be overthrown? Yes from 1 Tim4. U guys quoted. Can the elect lose their salvation?Emphatically NO. Can any elect be in hell?Emphatically NO. Two diff things. The word "elect" means that God chose a person to eternal life before the world began.( 1 peter 1:2).So God knows the end from the beginning.

ABDULADINO:
You used the word precious faith which is not instant but progessive. Read 1 peter.

Scripture is clear for christians to see.Paul warned timothy to ministerial faithfulness,lest he cost his hearers the truth and rigtheous living. It all boils down to the five fold (Eph 4:11-14).
Because i differ in view with the catholics on doctrinal stand i cannot categorically claim all of them lose their salvation or will end up in hell, likewise protestants,pentecostals etc.